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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Arthur Sundqvist
 

Thanks Steve!
Wich system are you using?
Iridium, Inmarsat or something else?

Kind regards
Arthur
Vista SM 435


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Head Hose

 

FYI.

When changing discharge hoses, I decided to experiment with some of the solid cristalized urin/saltwater in the old hose. I broke see out and added it to 3 glass jars. One jar had pure vinegar, the 2nd had 50% vinegar and 50% saltwater, the 3rd had 50% vinegar and 50% freshwater.

30 days later - no change
60 days later - no change
90 days later - no change
120 days later - I gave upūüėÄ

I believe that positive vinegar solutions to head problems are nothing more than a placebo effect.  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sat, Nov 10, 2018, 22:34 greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

In my experience, it might just take months for a vinegar soak to actually do any good. For those of us who live on our boats 12 months a year, a month long soak is just not a practical solution.  Most boats that get taken out of the water for months, do so because of cold weather.  Leaving vinegar in lines in freezing temperatures is not a good idea.


All the other ideas you suggest are certainly good ones, but again, if you are in a place (like all of the waters of the USA) where discharge of raw sewage is never allowed, it is impractical to flush with enough water to clear the lines every time.  The tank just fills too fast.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida, USA





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

michael winand
 

Thanks Bill.
I am looking at this for a little extra fuel capacity  say 100-120litres and to also be able to get the filtration system sorted. 
A pump system through a large  filter to the day tank. Day tank over flow back to the main. 
In a large seaway I will be more comfortable with knowing that when the main tank is down to the last 100 liters  I have a good supply at the day tank. 
Current setup has the engine having to suck fuel  as the main  tank gets down to 1/3 . 
I am thinking that gravity feed from above wouldn't hurt. 
I would still have a second set of filters on the day tank. 
Regards Michael 

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at 14:26, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

This is really a matter of cruising style and preference.  Some people feel that a Super Maramu's installed fuel capacity is not adequate for a world cruising boat, and others worry about fuel going bad before they use it.  Neither approach is wrong, it really is a matter of taste.  Some people fire up the engine anytime boat speed drops below 5 knots.  Others are perfectly happy drifting along at 2 knots.  


I know our boat has already been around the world--TWICE--with only the factory installed fuel tank.  I decided not to add complexity--and weight--by changing an obviously successful design.

Don't forget, by dropping your speed from 6 knots to 5 knots you--almost--double your motoring range.  Go to 4 knots and you--almost--double it again.

I don't have a recommendation on how to install a day tank, just an observation that it MIGHT not be the way you want to go.  If you do want to go that way, I know several people on this forum have, and will have good ideas on how to do it.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood Florida, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Head Hose

greatketch@...
 

In my experience, it might just take months for a vinegar soak to actually do any good. For those of us who live on our boats 12 months a year, a month long soak is just not a practical solution.  Most boats that get taken out of the water for months, do so because of cold weather.  Leaving vinegar in lines in freezing temperatures is not a good idea.

All the other ideas you suggest are certainly good ones, but again, if you are in a place (like all of the waters of the USA) where discharge of raw sewage is never allowed, it is impractical to flush with enough water to clear the lines every time.  The tank just fills too fast.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida, USA





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

greatketch@...
 

This is really a matter of cruising style and preference.  Some people feel that a Super Maramu's installed fuel capacity is not adequate for a world cruising boat, and others worry about fuel going bad before they use it.  Neither approach is wrong, it really is a matter of taste.  Some people fire up the engine anytime boat speed drops below 5 knots.  Others are perfectly happy drifting along at 2 knots.  

I know our boat has already been around the world--TWICE--with only the factory installed fuel tank.  I decided not to add complexity--and weight--by changing an obviously successful design.

Don't forget, by dropping your speed from 6 knots to 5 knots you--almost--double your motoring range.  Go to 4 knots and you--almost--double it again.

I don't have a recommendation on how to install a day tank, just an observation that it MIGHT not be the way you want to go.  If you do want to go that way, I know several people on this forum have, and will have good ideas on how to do it.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood Florida, USA


Re: Marinas / harbours in Hawaii

greatketch@...
 

We stayed at Ala Wai Marina in Honolulu for several months. We found it delightful--and infuriating.

It was convenient to downtown, and easy to live in without a car.  It is right on the edge of Waikiki, so it is a bustling place.  If you prefer peace and quiet it might not be the best choice for you.  It is in the middle of the city, and that is both good, and sometimes, not so good.  Drug use, and homelessness are problems about which they do not have even a clue to a management, much less solutions.

Like almost all marinas in Hawai'i it is owned, and run, by the state.  The people who run it are friendly and delightful, but totally constrained by the "Rules."  And there are a LOT of rules. Customer service is NOT a priority.  Just as an example: the staff is not allowed to help a boat when it approaches the dock because of "Liability." Fortunately, dock neighbors are (as a rule) helpful. 

Maintenance is terrible.  Two boats while we were there broke free of their bow moorings because the chain had corroded away to nothing while waiting for the work order to replace it to be approved.  The office and payment systems were humorously archaic--at best. Think typewriters.  Seriously.  We have never been at a marina with an office more technologically backward--anywhere.

Facilities are adequate.  Certainly not the best place you have ever stayed.  On the other hand, convenience is great.

A reservation is required, or at least highly recommended.  We made the reservation before we left California, and updated our arrival time en route by satphone.

You can find a lot about our time in Hawai'i on our blog if you start here:  

We also visited Ko Olina Marina on Oahu.  It is (I think?) the only private marina on the island, but found it far too remote for our automobile-less life.

The issues are serious, and sometimes funny, but all things considered, if we were back on Oahu, we'd stay there again. Alternatives did not meet out needs.

Feel free to contact us by email if you have any questions.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida, USA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

greatketch@...
 

After hearing about, and seeing several boats, with problems at the attachment between the main boom and the mainsheet, I went back and took an extra careful look at this part on Harmonie.  No evidence of any problem (or any repair) at all.  Having gone looking because I was thinking this was a weak point in the design of the boom, and coming into our boat after it has already completed two circumnavigations, I was fully expecting to find at least a subtle issue I have missed before.

NOT finding it had me wondering: Why?  What could cause a failure of this part, other than normal time and wear?  

Accidental gybes.

I am pretty sure I have said this before, but...  there are two important things to remember.  First, of course, is to use your preventer whenever possible.  It would be nice to say "always" but sometimes you just have a little way to go, and it is a bit of a pain to rig, so...  

The second point, and I think even more critical, is to use the traveler.  

If the traveler is centered, and the boom is eased using only the sheet, it can gain great speed and momentum when it gybes.  The force required to stop it can cause damage in a number of places, and the attachment point of the sheet to the boom is obviously vulnerable. If the traveler is dropped all the way down to the leeward side before easing the mainsheet, even if (when!) a gybe  happens the boom crosses only about to the center line, and the force needed to stop it is greatly reduced, along with the potential for damage.

I know both previous owners of Harmonie were very fussy about using the traveler.  With over 100K miles under her keel, I imagine she has seen more accidental gybes than I have inflicted on her, but with the traveler always down, it isn't nearly as hard on the boat as it might otherwise have been.

I have seen some really ugly things happen as the result of accidental gybes on non-Amel boats. From broken blocks, through broken booms, right on up to dismastings.  Anything that can be done to reduce the forces involved is a good thing.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, Florida


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Mark Erdos
 

Authur,

 

I 100% agree with Steve. We have both SSB + Pactor and Sat-Phone. Redundancy is best if you can afford it.

 

We use a minimal plan on the sat-phone and pay about $60 per month and about $1.50 per minute. We only ever use the phone on extended passages and when the SSB is problematic. To receive a grib file of weather takes about 5 minutes using the phone as a modem for our ships navigation computer. We do not use Iridium Go but use the phone as a data modem connected to the computer. This yields a lot more options for connection. We can lay weather over charts and view it along our planned route using Nobeltec TZ software. We calculated that it is less expensive to use the data and pay as we go rather than pay a higher monthly fee and not use it. It seems we sit still for long periods or have access to wi-fi. The highest bill be have ever had was about $200 using it daily for 2 weeks.

 

I personally prefer the SSB and find it a little faster. Cindy prefers the SSB when she does it.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Aruba

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2018 6:30 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

 

 

I pay just under $150/mo with all taxes for unlimited data and texting, and 150 min of sat phone talk time per month. They have less expensive plans, but I don’t like to worry about data usage. 

 

Steve

Aloha SM72


On Nov 10, 2018, at 10:56, Arthur Sundqvist arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Steve!

What is the estimated cost for the Iridium Go per month?

 

Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, Vista



10 nov. 2018 kl. 21:00 skrev Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

We have both, and a Pactor 4 modem.. I like redundancy, and would not be content relying on a sole source. We keep our sail mail account up to date, and generally use the Iridium Go and sail docs for weather. We can use the modem if necessary, but I find the Iridium faster and more reliable. We use Predict Wind as well, but find I get more detailed weather info from sail docs. Predict Wind allows me to get the euro model GRIBS, and sail docs does not. 

Steve Davis

Aloha SM72

Hawaii


On Nov 10, 2018, at 9:41 AM, arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?

 

Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Stephen Davis
 

I pay just under $150/mo with all taxes for unlimited data and texting, and 150 min of sat phone talk time per month. They have less expensive plans, but I don’t like to worry about data usage. 

Steve
Aloha SM72

On Nov 10, 2018, at 10:56, Arthur Sundqvist arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Steve!

What is the estimated cost for the Iridium Go per month?

Arthur Sundqvist
SM 435, Vista

10 nov. 2018 kl. 21:00 skrev Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

We have both, and a Pactor 4 modem. I like redundancy, and would not be content relying on a sole source. We keep our sail mail account up to date, and generally use the Iridium Go and sail docs for weather. We can use the modem if necessary, but I find the Iridium faster and more reliable. We use Predict Wind as well, but find I get more detailed weather info from sail docs. Predict Wind allows me to get the euro model GRIBS, and sail docs does not. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Hawaii

On Nov 10, 2018, at 9:41 AM, arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?


Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] day fuel tank

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

Don’t bother.  Most folks just use a dual filter and some, including us, use the RACOR fuel filtering funnel.

Good luck,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007
Opua, NZ

On 8 Nov 2018, at 20:53, mfw642000@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi everyone. I am interested in fitting a day fuel tank in a super maramu and wondering if anyone has ever done this before. I would like to set up a fuel polishing system going to the day tank that would gravity feed to the engine. I was hoping to get another 100 liters of fuel as well.
I am looking at mounting it behind the cockpit drain pipes attached to the aft wall of the engine room.
Feeding the tank with a fass fuel filter and pump. 
Really appreciate any advice 
Michael 251 sm



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] mounting of dual racor filters

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

We have the Racor 7500 dual filters; we believe the natural filtration via the return line is sufficient.

We also take a second precaution:  we have the big Racor funnel filter which is used systematically at all doubtful fuelling spots.

Cheers,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007
Opua, NZ

On 8 Nov 2018, at 09:46, bazgrayson@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi All, i am changing from the single racor filter to dual racor 500 series filters. 

When i removed the single filter it was mounted on a block of wood that had 2 bolts thru it which seem to be mounted thru the bulkhead.

1; i can't find where the bolt heads are. I do remember reading somewhere that the engine bay is double layer by that i mean the bulkhead then a layer of foam then more plywood then more foam which would explain why i can't find the bolt head.

Can anyone confirm that?

If it is the case then i should be able to screw into that wood to mount the new filter body frame which is considerably bigger with 3" thick mounting blocks which allows me to clear the drain water shutoff valve.

Can anyone confirm this?

Regards

Alan Grayson

SV Ora Pai  SM 406

Ft Lauderdale




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Head Hose

Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Gang,

No need for branded products.  A 2 step approach works wonderfully.

1. The deposits in the tube are formed by the interaction of saltwater and human urine mostly. ¬†To alleviate the problem, we have a rule that each passage in the ‚Äúloos‚ÄĚ involve 20 strokes of the refill. ¬†Then flush out. ¬†This ensures that all urine is out of the pipe.

2. Flush with fresh water before going on the hard then pour a gallon of vinegar into the bowl.  Let sit for 1 day.  Then pump out the vinegar.  LET stand for a month or more.  Flush with fresh water.

NEVER have a problem with this practice.

Kind regards,

Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, SM 007
Opua, NZ

On 8 Nov 2018, at 09:11, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


There had been comments by I believe Bill Kinney & Kent Robertson about a product called Sew Clean, made by the same company that manufacturers Barnacle Buster.  It cleans out the deposits in the black water line.  I used it and it seems to work well.  Try a keyword search for more info or buy a quart and give it a go - so to speak.

Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54-68
Hampton, VA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Arthur Sundqvist
 

Thank you Steve!
What is the estimated cost for the Iridium Go per month?

Arthur Sundqvist
SM 435, Vista

10 nov. 2018 kl. 21:00 skrev Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

We have both, and a Pactor 4 modem. I like redundancy, and would not be content relying on a sole source. We keep our sail mail account up to date, and generally use the Iridium Go and sail docs for weather. We can use the modem if necessary, but I find the Iridium faster and more reliable. We use Predict Wind as well, but find I get more detailed weather info from sail docs. Predict Wind allows me to get the euro model GRIBS, and sail docs does not. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Hawaii

On Nov 10, 2018, at 9:41 AM, arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?


Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Stephen Davis
 

We have both, and a Pactor 4 modem. I like redundancy, and would not be content relying on a sole source. We keep our sail mail account up to date, and generally use the Iridium Go and sail docs for weather. We can use the modem if necessary, but I find the Iridium faster and more reliable. We use Predict Wind as well, but find I get more detailed weather info from sail docs. Predict Wind allows me to get the euro model GRIBS, and sail docs does not. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Hawaii

On Nov 10, 2018, at 9:41 AM, arthur@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?


Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA


SSB radio and Satellite phone?

Arthur Sundqvist
 

 Do I need both SSB and Satellite phone when going to the Pacific?

You who have only the satellite phone, what does it cos per month to download  the weather every day for predict wind?

You who are really far out there and know a lot what is your suggestion and advice?


Arthur Sundqvist

SM 435, VISTA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowsprit for Super Maramu

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Juan,

Here is what the previous owner did on my vessel.
http://www.nikimat.com/bow_spirit_spinnaker.html

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sat, 11/10/18, jdezulue@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bowsprit for Super Maramu
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 10, 2018, 9:54 AM


 









I would like to install a bowsprit for my Super
Maramu in order to improve the performance of my gennaker
and my spinnaker.

Some of you might have already installed this type of
device, could you share with me experience, plan or pictures
.



Many thanks in advance



Juan de Zulueta

Super Maramu year 1990

Ophelie X



jdezulue@orange.fr

+33680895892




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Bowsprit for Super Maramu

Juan de Zulueta
 

I would like to install a bowsprit for my Super Maramu in order to improve the performance of my gennaker and my spinnaker.
Some of you might have already installed this type of device, could you share with me experience, plan or pictures .

Many thanks in advance

Juan de Zulueta
Super Maramu year 1990
Ophelie X

jdezulue@orange.fr
+33680895892


Re: Main sheet boom slider broken

Paul Stascavage
 

Mike,

Glad to hear my information was helpful. Adriene and his daughter Ashley are awesome.

We are currently in Wilmington, NC. We also plan to stop in St Augustine but not sure when. Hopefully we will get a chance to meet.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM 466
Cruising US East Coast

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Salon mod

james Hosford
 

Thanks



On Nov 9, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Mcgovern.denise@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

https://svtourai.com/ has a photo.


Denise 
SM 440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Salon mod

Denise McGovern
 

https://svtourai.com/ has a photo.

Denise 

SM 440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

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