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Pure Magic

Peter Killen
 

Now that we have sold Pure Magic, I would like to leave the forum.
Once again my thanks for all the information over the years.

Peter Killen

SM 433

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Robin,
I can't add much to what has been said/recommended above, but wanted to ask you (assuming you also have a Volvo DS3 - 110) about the part no of the muffler and where you ordered it.
Thanks for your help,
Alex
AMEL54 #15
NO STRESS


On Saturday, May 26, 2018, 1:16:46 PM GMT-4, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Robin,

 

Have you checked you heat exchanger? Blockage here will cause the muffler to melt.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 9:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

 

 

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca

 

 

Bow Thruster Rusted Shut

Steven Bode - SV Intention 1994-SM#117
 

I'm pretty sure my bow thruster is busted off because when I use it, All I get is a whirring sound. Got all the parts to do a service and the instructions. Fortified with all the web postings about doing so, I began my service. Now the four allen-head bolts are out of the motor housing that hold the shaft. The shaft will not budge. It's rusted in place. The four bolts were even a bit hard to remove and showed plenty of rust once out. I've been spraying the shaft and the holes with WD-40 for the last couple of days, but still no luck. 


Any advice from those who have done this service?


Steve Bode

SV Intention

'94 SM #117

Barcelona, Spain

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

Mark Erdos
 

Robin,

 

Have you checked you heat exchanger? Blockage here will cause the muffler to melt.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 9:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

 

 

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Flexible Prop which one for SM?

karkauai
 

It’s here if you want it, Philipp.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On May 26, 2018, at 4:19 AM, philipp.sollberger@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

I have a Perkins similar to TMD22.
Thank's a lot for your offer, but I think, that I will have the problem of the housing, because my hull is from 1994 with the number 124. Yours is 243, though you have a new housing which was change for the SM2000.

If it would go on my hull, then I will come for your offer that I apreciate highly. First I will make the inquiry with AMEL and after that I will come back.

Many thanks and fair winds.
Philipp
SM#124
Félicie


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Philipp,
What engine do you have?

Amel sold many SMS with AutoProp’s. They are an excellent choice. These props automatically find their pitch depending on conditions (speed and power applied), with lower pitch when you are motoring at higher rpm, slower speed, and higher pitch at relatively lower rpm and higher speed.

MaxProp also works well on my SM.

I repowered with a 110HP Yanmar when my 78HP Volvo died, I still have the old AutoProp and can sell it at a significant discount if you are interested.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
St Michaels MD USA
 

Re: Flexible Prop which one for SM?

philipp.sollberger@...
 

Hi Kent,

I have a Perkins similar to TMD22.
Thank's a lot for your offer, but I think, that I will have the problem of the housing, because my hull is from 1994 with the number 124. Yours is 243, though you have a new housing which was change for the SM2000.

If it would go on my hull, then I will come for your offer that I apreciate highly. First I will make the inquiry with AMEL and after that I will come back.

Many thanks and fair winds.
Philipp
SM#124
Félicie


---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote :

Philipp,
What engine do you have?

Amel sold many SMS with AutoProp’s. They are an excellent choice. These props automatically find their pitch depending on conditions (speed and power applied), with lower pitch when you are motoring at higher rpm, slower speed, and higher pitch at relatively lower rpm and higher speed.

MaxProp also works well on my SM.

I repowered with a 110HP Yanmar when my 78HP Volvo died, I still have the old AutoProp and can sell it at a significant discount if you are interested.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
St Michaels MD USA
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: melted muffler

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Sure, or just take off the hose at the exhaust injection elbow and see if you've got water there. 
Let us know.


---In amelyachtowners@..., <simms@...> wrote :

Hi robin. Have you thought to take the end off the intake end of the heat exchanger. It can get blocked with debris, particularly if you have had a previous failure of thexestrr pump impeller. 

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl


On 26 May 2018 at 03:26 "sangaris@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


If you remove the outlet hose from the pump and turn over the engine, does water flow?
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

its a VP D3 110A - and yes, the impeller turns ...


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Am Freitag, Mai 25, 2018, 17:04 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 


I meant to say, "see if the impeller turns", not "rotor".
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote :

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca



 
 

 


 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: melted muffler

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi robin. Have you thought to take the end off the intake end of the heat exchanger. It can get blocked with debris, particularly if you have had a previous failure of thexestrr pump impeller. 

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl


On 26 May 2018 at 03:26 "sangaris@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


If you remove the outlet hose from the pump and turn over the engine, does water flow?
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

its a VP D3 110A - and yes, the impeller turns ...


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Freitag, Mai 25, 2018, 17:04 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 


I meant to say, "see if the impeller turns", not "rotor".
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote :

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca



 
 

 


 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: melted muffler

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 


If you remove the outlet hose from the pump and turn over the engine, does water flow?
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

its a VP D3 110A - and yes, the impeller turns ...


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Freitag, Mai 25, 2018, 17:04 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 


I meant to say, "see if the impeller turns", not "rotor".
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote :

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

eric freedman
 

Hi Robin,

I had this happen once on Kimberlite. Fortunately I had a spare.

The cover plate on the water pump is probably leaking just a little air as it is probably warped.

You might try turning the plate around or even better replacing the plate.

This simple alarm will warn you if the exhaust hose gets too hot and will save your muffler.

http://www.borelmfg.com/products_alarm.htm

I had my muffler remade out of metal by a marine manifold / muffler company.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 9:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

 

 

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: melted muffler

robin hutter
 

its a VP D3 110A - and yes, the impeller turns ...


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Freitag, Mai 25, 2018, 17:04 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] :

 


I meant to say, "see if the impeller turns", not "rotor".
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca



Re: melted muffler

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 


I meant to say, "see if the impeller turns", not "rotor".
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote :

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca



Re: melted muffler

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca



melted muffler

robin hutter
 

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca



Re :Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu 46 Owner's Manual

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Good day to you
I went thru the same 3 years ago & can vouch for the fact that a self survey can be as effective than one conducted by a surveyor without experience on Amel boats. Check my earlier posts to avoid repeating my mistakes. Just remember that Maramu is a stiff  & strongly built boat, with oversized elements. Follow the Amel forum rule, do not change anything, better to repair as long as you figure out how.
Cheers & fair Winds
Christian Alby, Desirade VIII, Maramu 116. Canet en roussillon



Le ven., mai 25, 2018 à 4:03, Dwentworth dwentworth@... [amelyachtowners]
a écrit :
 

Greetings and Salutations,

I am conducting a pre-purchase self survey of a 1986 Amel 46, hull number 188 as part of my consideration for purchase. I have been reading the historical posts on the Amel group and appreciate the storehouse of knowledge contained herein. I have sailed in the Pacific and South Pacific and have accrued 20,000 sea miles with five years as captain of my own boat. The Maramu will certainly be a tall step up in complexity from my previous Cascade 36. I am quite handy and capable around most systems found on boats and look forward to learning all the systems on this Amel. I do expect an initially steep learning curve. The boat I am looking at is presently in a very remote location in Panama or I woukd engage an experienced Amel surveyor. Any information or guidance from this group would be very welcomed.

Best Regards,


Dan Wentworth

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu 46 Owner's Manual

Dwentworth <dwentworth@...>
 

Greetings and Salutations,

I am conducting a pre-purchase self survey of a 1986 Amel 46, hull number 188 as part of my consideration for purchase. I have been reading the historical posts on the Amel group and appreciate the storehouse of knowledge contained herein. I have sailed in the Pacific and South Pacific and have accrued 20,000 sea miles with five years as captain of my own boat. The Maramu will certainly be a tall step up in complexity from my previous Cascade 36. I am quite handy and capable around most systems found on boats and look forward to learning all the systems on this Amel. I do expect an initially steep learning curve. The boat I am looking at is presently in a very remote location in Panama or I woukd engage an experienced Amel surveyor. Any information or guidance from this group would be very welcomed.

Best Regards,


Dan Wentworth

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu 46 Owner's Manual

dwentworth@...
 

Hi Miles,

The attachments didn't attach...

Re: Shimming the Onan Genset Tray

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Bill:

I think this is a mounting problem with the glassed in shelf.  I used a torpedo level placed on the shelf showing 1/4th bubble outboard and that was matched with 1/4th bubble outboard on the athwart ship lip of the pan.  I shimmed with 0.72 inch shims to the two outboard mounts.  That just barely gave adequate grip length on the long leg screw from the bottom of the rubber mount.  This yielded 1/4th bubble inboard tilt of the tray.  I tested with some water poured on the tray outboard,  it ran off the bevel cut-off area at the front of the tray, dripped on the shelf and promptly ran outboard.  This confirmed to me that the shelf is slanting outboard, boat is level per the inclinometer at the helm.   I guess I will need to make a scupper for the tray corner to direct any drainage to a drip receptacle of some sort. 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 # 335

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wood trim around Vee berth windows

karkauai
 

I’ll try it Craig.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

Kent, 
As I recall you've got a FEIN Multitool - there's some flat saw blades for it and a "window cutter" that could just do the trick.
Craig

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Shimming the Onan Genset Tray

 

Gary,

Interesting, because I believe the Onan on SM #387 tilted slightly inboard. At least any spilled fluid would move inboard. This makes me wonder if maybe the pan might be slightly concave causing spills origination "inboard" to move inboard, and outboard spills to move outboard.

Where did you mount the level? 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:47 AM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hi All:


I don't know about you but one of the things that I believe Amel got wrong was the level of the shelf that the Onan Genset sits on.  It slants outboard and all the Amel SMs that I have visited share this same issue.  Thus any oil/fuel/water leaks or drainage flows outboard and usually aft where it pools and causes corrosion and a gooey mess.


 Working by myself, using lifting airbags, shims and 2x4 levers and blocking I was able to raise the genset about 5 inches with only removing the exhaust hose. I then  removed the outboard rubber shock mounts, install 3/4 inch HDPE (high density polyethylene) shims on the lower part of the out board shock mounts, and lower the 900 lb genset back down.  It was a big job and took me the better part of 3 days.  This gives me level 1/4 bubble of drainage inboard.  


Olivier Beaute, Bill Rouse or anyone else with knowledge on this;  is there a reason the genset doesn't sit level or lean slightly inboard for drainage?  Was this just an oversight by Amel?  By mostly leveling the genset is there anything from the engineering standpoint that I haven't considered that would be a problem?  If the boat should broach or roll, would the rubber shock/vibration mounts be strong enough to prevent the genset from breaking free of it's mounts?


Sincerely, 


Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona

Amel SM 2000 #335

Island Marine Yard, Puerto Del Rey Marina, Fajardo, Pureto Rico









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