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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I don't remember.
I just bought the whole rebuild package from AB Marine and gave it to a professional to have it overhaul (the was 3 years ago).



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On Sun, 5/6/18, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, May 6, 2018, 5:24 PM


 

















Hi
Alexandra,

 

Thanks for the
info. On the SKF package, is there “X/Q” following the
part number?

 



 

With best
regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel
- Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us




 





From:
amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]

Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 4:00 PM

To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop
Bearings





 

 







Hello Mark,



I confirm 3 x 32004 Bearings and 3 x 51110 Bearinrs.

Here i the whole list.

http://www.nikimat.com/auto_prop_h6.html



To add on Eric, message - they no longer rent tools. I tried
to 3 years ago
when had the propeller rebuild.



Sincerely Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 5/6/18, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@...
[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Sunday, May 6, 2018, 11:22 AM





 



































Hi all,



 



I am ordering some spare

autoprop bearings and need some

help confirming the correct slanted bearing. On the

AB-Marine web page it

states SKF 32004 is the correct bearing.



 



I can save a lot of money

if I order from a bearing

wholesaler. However, the only SKF 32004 comes with an X/Q

after the part

number. Does anyone know if this is the same?



 



 



With best regards,



 



Mark



 



Skipper



Sailing Vessel - Cream

Puff - SM2K - #275



Currently cruising –

Bonaire



 



www.creampuff.us



 
























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings

greatketch@...
 

In the SKF catalog, the 32004 bearing is only listed with the X/Q suffix.  In the SKF numbering system a suffix like "X" or "Q" is not used as modifiers to a base part number, but rather give some information about the design standards and service loads for that model. 

"X" means the dimensions are ISO complient, and "Q" means "optimized contact geometry and surface finish"

There are no versions of this part number without the X/Q suffix in the current catalog.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Spanish Wells, Bahamas

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Alexandra,

 

Thanks for the info. On the SKF package, is there “X/Q” following the part number?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 4:00 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings

 

 

Hello Mark,

I confirm 3 x 32004 Bearings and 3 x 51110 Bearinrs.
Here i the whole list.
http://www.nikimat.com/auto_prop_h6.html

To add on Eric, message - they no longer rent tools. I tried to 3 years ago when had the propeller rebuild.

Sincerely Alexandre

--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 5/6/18, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, May 6, 2018, 11:22 AM


 

















Hi all,

 

I am ordering some spare
autoprop bearings and need some
help confirming the correct slanted bearing. On the
AB-Marine web page it
states SKF 32004 is the correct bearing.

 

I can save a lot of money
if I order from a bearing
wholesaler. However, the only SKF 32004 comes with an X/Q
after the part
number. Does anyone know if this is the same?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream
Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising –
Bonaire

 

www.creampuff.us

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Mark,

I confirm 3 x 32004 Bearings and 3 x 51110 Bearinrs.
Here i the whole list.
http://www.nikimat.com/auto_prop_h6.html

To add on Eric, message - they no longer rent tools. I tried to 3 years ago when had the propeller rebuild.

Sincerely Alexandre




--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 5/6/18, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, May 6, 2018, 11:22 AM


 

















Hi all,

 

I am ordering some spare
autoprop bearings and need some
help confirming the correct slanted bearing. On the
AB-Marine web page it
states SKF 32004 is the correct bearing.

 

I can save a lot of money
if I order from a bearing
wholesaler. However, the only SKF 32004 comes with an X/Q
after the part
number. Does anyone know if this is the same?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream
Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising –
Bonaire

 

www.creampuff.us

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings

Mark Erdos
 

Thanks Eric, I have a set of the tools.

 

If anyone is ever close to me and needs to use them, you are welcome. It makes the prop rebuild much easier.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 1:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings

 

 

Hi Mark,

If you buy the bearings from AB marine they will also rent you the tools for the rebuild.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 12:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings

 

 

Hi all,

 

I am ordering some spare autoprop bearings and need some help confirming the correct slanted bearing. On the AB-Marine web page it states SKF 32004 is the correct bearing.

 

I can save a lot of money if I order from a bearing wholesaler. However, the only SKF 32004 comes with an X/Q after the part number. Does anyone know if this is the same?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – Bonaire

 

www.creampuff.us

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings

eric freedman
 

Hi Mark,

If you buy the bearings from AB marine they will also rent you the tools for the rebuild.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2018 12:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Auto Prop Bearings

 

 

Hi all,

 

I am ordering some spare autoprop bearings and need some help confirming the correct slanted bearing. On the AB-Marine web page it states SKF 32004 is the correct bearing.

 

I can save a lot of money if I order from a bearing wholesaler. However, the only SKF 32004 comes with an X/Q after the part number. Does anyone know if this is the same?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – Bonaire

 

www.creampuff.us

 

Auto Prop Bearings

Mark Erdos
 

Hi all,

 

I am ordering some spare autoprop bearings and need some help confirming the correct slanted bearing. On the AB-Marine web page it states SKF 32004 is the correct bearing.

 

I can save a lot of money if I order from a bearing wholesaler. However, the only SKF 32004 comes with an X/Q after the part number. Does anyone know if this is the same?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – Bonaire

 

www.creampuff.us

 

Re: Rivets for Head sail furling foil

greatketch@...
 

Vladimir,

I tapped threads and used 8mm stainless socket head cap screws. 

You might want to have a look back at message #34039 where Olivier gives the ultimate summary of the issues involved.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie


---In amelyachtowners@..., <sonsev52@...> wrote :

I would like to use 1/4 " dia 8 stainless rivets. ( I couldn't find 7 mm dia rivets.)
I am concerned about breaking the part that foil is inserted to. It is aluminum casting 10 mm wall. The upper holes are close to the edge. Did anyone see it broken during rivet installation or due to wind load.

That is very critical connection. If it fails during a storm, the sail can get opend and there are noway to furl it back.
Please give me recommendations and provide your oppinion.

Vladimir
S/V "Life is Good"
SM 345

Rivets for Head sail furling foil

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I would like to use 1/4 " dia 8 stainless rivets. ( I couldn't find 7 mm dia rivets.)
I am concerned about breaking the part that foil is inserted to. It is aluminum casting 10 mm wall. The upper holes are close to the edge. Did anyone see it broken during rivet installation or due to wind load.

That is very critical connection. If it fails during a storm, the sail can get opend and there are noway to furl it back.
Please give me recommendations and provide your oppinion.

Vladimir
S/V "Life is Good"
SM 345

Volvo two wire temperature sender

greatketch@...
 

Does anyone know the part number or specification for the Volvo two wire temperature sensor?  (Not the high temperature alarm switch...) 


Mine has gone to the great boatyard in the sky, and the online part drawings I have found do not include it...


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Spanish Wells, Bahamas

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

Patrick McAneny
 

Bob, As Bill stated I don't trust my engine temp gauge , with good reason. I had a mechanic install a new Volvo instrument panel, the new gauge  was reading 225 F while the engine was at normal temps. His solution was to install an resistor in the wire from the sender. That seems arbitrary and should be unnecessary , I would think the gauge and sender should be compatible without modification.  To your question, I use two laser guns ( they sometimes disagree by several degrees) and measure temps at the thermostat . I read temps between 200 F and up to 212 F or so at higher rpms, while the gauge may read 220-225F or so . I launched my boat Friday and only ran it down the river to my mooring ,about 45 minutes at 2000 to 2500 rpm, but the gauge never got above 180F . The water is still cool , probably 60 , but I think cleaning out the elbow has solved my overheating issue. Tomorrow evening we will go out for a good long high speed run to confirm that we are at normal operating temps.
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, May 6, 2018 1:33 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

 
Hi Pat, on our boat (Yamar 4JH-3HTE) we usually run about 5F hotter at power vs normal cruising rpm of about 2000.  Always below about 182F on the gauge.  We also see an increase of a few degrees in warm water vs cold.  I think we had similar variation on our SN (Perkins M50).  I am curious how hot your engine was indicating and what other indicators of overheating you had.  I'm thinking that this is normal but only up to a poing.  What kind of increase do other owners see?

Bob, KAIMI SM429

Re: Passerelle/Gangway on my AMEL 54 not working, Valve Problem?

luvkante
 

Thank you, Wolfgang. I`ll try. Sounds promising!

I do not want to go with a full size activated passarelle across the Atlantic.

Martin
AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA
Currently Jolly Harbour, Antigua
Soon back in Varazze/Italy

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Access to A/C capacitors on Amel 54

 

Mark, Christine, and everyone with Climma ACs:

I have seen 5 different Climma capacitor configurations between the SM and 54 and documented 4 of them in my book. Over a twenty plus period, Climma modified the Compact series. Be careful in comparisons, it might not be apples to oranges. Christine, your 54 Climma Compact 9 or 12 Fan Capacitor most likely is the smallest on the board and is marked C = 2μF.

I hope this helps you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970





On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 6:52 PM, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Christine, on our 2007 A54 the 12,000 BTU Climma is located under the settee in the salon.  By your description it is hard to tell if you have physically seen this unit or just a picture.  If I were going to check the capacitors on our unit I would remove the box which is usually held on by two screws to make it more convenient to access.  Be sure to turn off the power and let the capacitors sit to bleed the charge off or ground the terminals to ensure there is no residual charge.  I would take a picture of the unit before performing any tests to make sure you get the correct terminals back on the correct terminal posts.  You will also need a volt/ohm meter that measures capacitance.  The capacitor cannot be electrically connected to the system to measure.  You must remove at least the ground terminal and if you are not sure remove all terminals connected to the capacitor before measuring.  The size of the capacitor in microfarads will be listed on the face of the capacitor.

 

If you can visually inspect the capacitors many times when a capacitor fails it swells as if it is a soda can preparing to explode.  If you see a swollen capacitor it is virtually a 100% probability that it is bad.  However, a capacitor can be bad and not swell.

 

Since you are an Amel owner I am assuming you have some proficiency with a voltmeter.  You could trace the wires from the fan motor back to the control board and ensure you have power to the fan before disassembling the control board to check the capacitors. 

 

ALTERNATIVE - Remove the exhaust duct from the blower to verify the blower rotates freely.  Be very careful when you do this but, another check for a failed capacitor would be to  turn the unit on then and reach in with a long bladed screwdriver and give the fan blade a quick spin in its normal direction of rotation.  Do not let the screwdriver linger in the fan housing, if there is a bad capacitor the fan will start to rotate. 



Mark & Debbie Mueller

A54 – 68  Brass Ring

 Ftl Lauderdale

 


Re: Passerelle/Gangway on my AMEL 54 not working, Valve Problem?

Wolfgang Weber
 

Hello Martin, I had the same problem and fixed it by spray a little WD-40 in the little hole of the valves.Our boat  came with a little screwdriver fix near to the passarelle motor and pump. This former screwdriver was adjusted,so you can open the valves by pressing in the 2 mm hole. Try by operating the passarelle with the remote and press one valve by Hand.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162
 





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

 

Temperature gauges can't really be trusted completely. I have never seen an inaccurate laser temp gun, regardless of the price. You can take temperatures while the engine is running at the oil filter, or thermostat fitting; and it is probably going to be 80C +/- 5% at 1800 RPM under load. Lots of things can impact the temperature:
RPM
Load
Water Flow (restrictions)=seat chest restrictions, hose restrictions, Bowman oil cooler
Impeller Blade
Engine Thermostat
Engine Heat Exchanger
Transmission Oil Cooler if you have a Bowman Oil Cooler in-line between the sea chest and the engine
Other engine issues

Gook luck.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970





On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:32 AM, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Pat, on our boat (Yamar 4JH-3HTE) we usually run about 5F hotter at power vs normal cruising rpm of about 2000.  Always below about 182F on the gauge.  We also see an increase of a few degrees in warm water vs cold.  I think we had similar variation on our SN (Perkins M50).  I am curious how hot your engine was indicating and what other indicators of overheating you had.  I'm thinking that this is normal but only up to a poing.  What kind of increase do other owners see?


Bob, KAIMI SM429


Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

luvkante
 

Wolfgang, 

könntest Du mir noch ein paar Informationen geben, wie Du das Problem final gelöst hast?

Habe das gleiche Problem. CHIARA liegt in Antigua und ich werde in ein paar Tagen Richtung Europa aufbrechen, muss es also schnell irgendwie lösen.

Herzlichen Dank!

Martin
AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

rossirossix4
 

Hi Pat, on our boat (Yamar 4JH-3HTE) we usually run about 5F hotter at power vs normal cruising rpm of about 2000.  Always below about 182F on the gauge.  We also see an increase of a few degrees in warm water vs cold.  I think we had similar variation on our SN (Perkins M50).  I am curious how hot your engine was indicating and what other indicators of overheating you had.  I'm thinking that this is normal but only up to a poing.  What kind of increase do other owners see?

Bob, KAIMI SM429

New chartplotter and instruments

Duane Siegfri
 

I posted a photo of the helm Electronics on Wanderer, to give people ideas about how to add new instruments and chartplotter. I got the idea to put the NavPod close to the steering wheel from Steve Morrison on TouRai, in the place that the old autohelm control had been and I moved the autohelm control to the right where the B&G Hydra FFD had been. It all works very nicely that way. I also replaced the Hydra instruments with B&G instruments and covered up the old holes with a piece of quarter inch black plexiglass which looks really nice. I left space for 1/3 ffd if we decided we wanted that, or a new B&G autohelm would work there as well.

Duane
Wanderer SM477

Re: Access to A/C capacitors on Amel 54

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

Hi Christine, on our 2007 A54 the 12,000 BTU Climma is located under the settee in the salon.  By your description it is hard to tell if you have physically seen this unit or just a picture.  If I were going to check the capacitors on our unit I would remove the box which is usually held on by two screws to make it more convenient to access.  Be sure to turn off the power and let the capacitors sit to bleed the charge off or ground the terminals to ensure there is no residual charge.  I would take a picture of the unit before performing any tests to make sure you get the correct terminals back on the correct terminal posts.  You will also need a volt/ohm meter that measures capacitance.  The capacitor cannot be electrically connected to the system to measure.  You must remove at least the ground terminal and if you are not sure remove all terminals connected to the capacitor before measuring.  The size of the capacitor in microfarads will be listed on the face of the capacitor.

 

If you can visually inspect the capacitors many times when a capacitor fails it swells as if it is a soda can preparing to explode.  If you see a swollen capacitor it is virtually a 100% probability that it is bad.  However, a capacitor can be bad and not swell.

 

Since you are an Amel owner I am assuming you have some proficiency with a voltmeter.  You could trace the wires from the fan motor back to the control board and ensure you have power to the fan before disassembling the control board to check the capacitors. 

 

ALTERNATIVE - Remove the exhaust duct from the blower to verify the blower rotates freely.  Be very careful when you do this but, another check for a failed capacitor would be to  turn the unit on then and reach in with a long bladed screwdriver and give the fan blade a quick spin in its normal direction of rotation.  Do not let the screwdriver linger in the fan housing, if there is a bad capacitor the fan will start to rotate. 



Mark & Debbie Mueller

A54 – 68  Brass Ring

 Ftl Lauderdale

 

Bow Thruster - continuing problems

Duane Siegfri
 

I wrote in the forum earlier this year about problems with the bow thruster, which were solved with a new limit switch and a new crimp-on DC power connector to the on-off switch at the helm.


It has worked perfectly since January, until this morning when it blew three fuses in a row.  I was looking at the second fuse to blow when I noticed some corrosion on the contacts so tried a third one.  I'm thinking it has to be the jack screw motor.  I have checked to make sure the rigging wasn't bound up in some way but that appears to be OK to me.


Bill K noted this symptom might be a result of brush wear.  The jack screw motor on my boat has a rubber jacket, including the power wires going into the motor.  Has someone serviced the brushes on this motor before?  Does it even have brushes?  It's an SNT motor.


It looks like the only way to access the brushes is to cut away the rubber jacket.  I'm looking forward to hearing from someone who has had this trouble.


Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Currently in Lake Worth, South of Peanut Island