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Re: Onan Generator exhaust temperature switch - great price.

 


There are two versions of the elbow sensor on Onan generators on Super Maramus. 

Some Onan models have part 309-0295-01 which is Normally Closed. Other models have part
309-0295 is Normally Open. Which sensor you have depends on your Onan Model and Serial. Check the
parts manual for your model to determine how to test this sensor. Or call your Cummins/Onan dealer with
your model and serial number. Remember there are a number of sensors in the shutdown system, and
these switches will fail. I replaced the exhaust manifold temperature switch and the water-flow switch
because of an accumulation of debris inside. I also had one situation with a loose connection on a switch.
Did you use your laser temperature gun to measure temperature? The normal temperature of the exhaust
elbow is about 50C and the normal temperature of the coolant is about 80C. Were these in range? How
many hours since the last impeller change? Should be less than 300hrs or 12 months. The impeller blades
can look OK, but the impeller can be defective.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 4:32 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

I believe if the exhaust temperature at the sensor exceeds 230 degrees F. the genset shuts down.

I will do an experiment one day and disconnect one wire while the genset is running and see what  happens.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 10:41 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan Generator exhaust temperature switch - great price.

 

Thanks Eric. Sent you a message with order details.

 

When these fail, go bad, or break, how do you know? Does it prevent the genset from starting/running? Or does it allow the genset to overheat if there are issues with the cooling system (broken impeller for example) and potentially damage things?

 

Cheers,

Mike Longcor

SV Trilogy SM23

Opua, NZ

 


Re: Super Maramu Repower

michael winand
 

We have recently been through the process. Couldn't justify the dollars to make the Volvo tmd new again. Oil leak. Turbo rebuild. 
We have installed a new beta 60. 
Plenty of power. Lots of torque. 
Big electrodyne alternator. 
Remote filters for easy access. 
Michael  nebo sm251







On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 4:09 am, CW Bill Rouse
<brouse@...> wrote:
I believe the Beta 85 is the best engine to repower the SM or 54. There are lots of reasons...here are a few:
Beta understands the isolated ground
Beta 85 is Kubota powered
Beta 85 has no computer and sensors

Here is some contact information for those interested:
Americas & Caribbean
UK, EU, Asia, AU, NZ
Stanley Feigenbaum
Andrew Growcoot
Beta Marine US Ltd 
11702 NC-306
Arapahoe, NC 28510
P +1(252) 249-2473
US Toll-Free 877 227 2473

Beta Marine Limited
Davy Way, Waterwells
Quedgeley, Gloucester
Gloucestershire, GL2 2AD
United Kingdom
P +44 (0)1452 723 492
F +44 (0)1452 883 742

Email me privately at brouse@... if you are interested in a discount from Beta

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 5:31 PM Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
Hello Mark and Nicky,

Welcome aboard!!!

If I had your situation, I would think more of an overhaul than Beta. Lots of spare parts available through Parts4engines.com. 

If after analysis, an engine swap is needed, the Beta would also be my choice

Kind regards,

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ


On 1/09/2020, at 2:14 AM, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:

We have just taken Nunky on her maiden voyage from Antibes to Almerimar over 5-6 weeks and we have loved the whole experience. The boat just feels so safe. Now that we have some experience of the boat I am hoping to be able to contribute to the group and the knowledge base. 

One thing about the Western Med that I have noticed however is the amount of motoring you have to do. We have put 130 hours on the engine in just over 800 miles. 

Nunky currently has the original Perkins M80T fitted. The hour meter broke at some point so I have no idea how many hours it has done. The new meter read 10 when we bought her but I doubt that was fitted 10 hours before we the boat. 

Anyway we were considering a complete overhaul but a head gasket problem we had in Cartagena suggests that is the least we should do. Given that I have no idea how many hours the Perkins has done I am thinking about replacing it. 

I have read and reread all the previous posts about repowers and I am edging towards a Beta 75. I like the fact that the engine is simple, they seem to have an excellent reputation and they will also fit a bespoke charging solution. That appeals because when we fit lithium eventually I would like a high capacity 24v alternator fitting. 

I would really appreciate the group's current views on repowers that have been undertaken.

Many thanks 
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Onan Generator exhaust temperature switch - great price.

eric freedman
 

Hi Mike,

I believe if the exhaust temperature at the sensor exceeds 230 degrees F. the genset shuts down.

I will do an experiment one day and disconnect one wire while the genset is running and see what  happens.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 10:41 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Onan Generator exhaust temperature switch - great price.

 

Thanks Eric. Sent you a message with order details.

 

When these fail, go bad, or break, how do you know? Does it prevent the genset from starting/running? Or does it allow the genset to overheat if there are issues with the cooling system (broken impeller for example) and potentially damage things?

 

Cheers,

Mike Longcor

SV Trilogy SM23

Opua, NZ

 


Re: Anchor chain counter

Scott SV Tengah
 

We just had this problem. It was a rusted magnet.



It's very easy to open up the windlass and see the magnet on the gypsy. On A54 #69, we have two windlasses, so I just took the gypsy from the port windlass and put it on starboard. There's no counter on port anyways and we barely use it, so the gypsy looked nearly new. 

By doing that, you could probably get quite a few more years of life and it will isolate whether the problem is the magnet or the sensor. If you look at the AutoAnchor manual, it shows you how to get into diagnostic mode to determine whether the sensors are getting power. That may help you figure out what's wrong. I suppose there could be wiring issues, but for us, it was easily remedied by swapping gypsies and hence, magnets. Good time to grease up the windlass, too.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Anchor chain counter

Wolfgang Weber
 

The magnet gets rusty. You may test the system , take off the gipsy and hold/turn a magnet above the reed relay and observe the counter

Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162


Re: Main furling motor and gear on 54

 

Nick,

You had me fooled. Your original post stated Amel 55, and the 55 furling assembly does not have a worm!

I believe that your Amel 54 #19 has the earlier version of the mainsail furling motor and gearbox, similar to the last SMs. I am having difficulty understanding why you would try to remove the worm gear before disassembling the gearbox and removing the spur gear. The spur gear will hold the worm gear in place. Maybe I am not understanding? Anyway, I will post some things here that may or may not help.

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Here is a disassembled gearbox similar to yours. You can see the worm gear and understand how the spur holds it in place.
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Also maybe this helps:
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 1:17 PM ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi guys, 
I am leaving it overnight soaking in diesel. I tried a puller earlier to push out the shaft but nada.
Tomorrow I will apply heat and the puller. If that fails I guess it will need a press.
I just wonder why it is not a nice snug fit, not as if it is a ball of rust. Maybe if when it finally yields it does not go back in with a gentle tap, I will have it machines down a thou.....so next timeI can pull it easy as kiss my hand.
Nick
Slightly fed up with a day of poor progress.
Amelia Leros

AML 54-019

On 1 Sep 2020, at 20:11, James Alton via groups.io <lokiyawl2=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Nick,

   Assuming that the worm gear and the shaft are both metal...  I would try heating the component  ( I assume this is the worm gear) with the hole to expand it while cooling the other part (the shaft) using ice or whatever you have.   Some gentle tapping might be ok. 

Best of luck,

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2020 8:52 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main furling motor and gear on 54

I know this has come up before, but I am servicing the main sail furling motor and worm drive.
It is all well but the top shaft seal should be replaced.
Problem;
Shaft into the worm gear is very tight. Soaked it in diesel for some hours, hesitant to hit it. Plan to find a press to press it out.
Does anyone have a better idea?
Nick
S/Y Amelia
Leros.
AML 55-019



Re: Bilge pump

Alexis LETELLIER
 

ok many thanks Arno


Re: Main furling motor and gear on 54

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi guys, 
I am leaving it overnight soaking in diesel. I tried a puller earlier to push out the shaft but nada.
Tomorrow I will apply heat and the puller. If that fails I guess it will need a press.
I just wonder why it is not a nice snug fit, not as if it is a ball of rust. Maybe if when it finally yields it does not go back in with a gentle tap, I will have it machines down a thou.....so next timeI can pull it easy as kiss my hand.
Nick
Slightly fed up with a day of poor progress.
Amelia Leros

AML 54-019

On 1 Sep 2020, at 20:11, James Alton via groups.io <lokiyawl2@...> wrote:


Nick,

   Assuming that the worm gear and the shaft are both metal...  I would try heating the component  ( I assume this is the worm gear) with the hole to expand it while cooling the other part (the shaft) using ice or whatever you have.   Some gentle tapping might be ok. 

Best of luck,

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2020 8:52 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main furling motor and gear on 54

I know this has come up before, but I am servicing the main sail furling motor and worm drive.
It is all well but the top shaft seal should be replaced.
Problem;
Shaft into the worm gear is very tight. Soaked it in diesel for some hours, hesitant to hit it. Plan to find a press to press it out.
Does anyone have a better idea?
Nick
S/Y Amelia
Leros.
AML 55-019



Re: Super Maramu Repower

 

I believe the Beta 85 is the best engine to repower the SM or 54. There are lots of reasons...here are a few:
Beta understands the isolated ground
Beta 85 is Kubota powered
Beta 85 has no computer and sensors

Here is some contact information for those interested:
Americas & Caribbean
UK, EU, Asia, AU, NZ
Stanley Feigenbaum
Andrew Growcoot
Beta Marine US Ltd 
11702 NC-306
Arapahoe, NC 28510
P +1(252) 249-2473
US Toll-Free 877 227 2473

Beta Marine Limited
Davy Way, Waterwells
Quedgeley, Gloucester
Gloucestershire, GL2 2AD
United Kingdom
P +44 (0)1452 723 492
F +44 (0)1452 883 742

Email me privately at brouse@... if you are interested in a discount from Beta

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 5:31 PM Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
Hello Mark and Nicky,

Welcome aboard!!!

If I had your situation, I would think more of an overhaul than Beta. Lots of spare parts available through Parts4engines.com. 

If after analysis, an engine swap is needed, the Beta would also be my choice

Kind regards,

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ


On 1/09/2020, at 2:14 AM, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:

We have just taken Nunky on her maiden voyage from Antibes to Almerimar over 5-6 weeks and we have loved the whole experience. The boat just feels so safe. Now that we have some experience of the boat I am hoping to be able to contribute to the group and the knowledge base. 

One thing about the Western Med that I have noticed however is the amount of motoring you have to do. We have put 130 hours on the engine in just over 800 miles. 

Nunky currently has the original Perkins M80T fitted. The hour meter broke at some point so I have no idea how many hours it has done. The new meter read 10 when we bought her but I doubt that was fitted 10 hours before we the boat. 

Anyway we were considering a complete overhaul but a head gasket problem we had in Cartagena suggests that is the least we should do. Given that I have no idea how many hours the Perkins has done I am thinking about replacing it. 

I have read and reread all the previous posts about repowers and I am edging towards a Beta 75. I like the fact that the engine is simple, they seem to have an excellent reputation and they will also fit a bespoke charging solution. That appeals because when we fit lithium eventually I would like a high capacity 24v alternator fitting. 

I would really appreciate the group's current views on repowers that have been undertaken.

Many thanks 
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


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20:00 to 21:00
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Over 60 Amel owners have purchased sails from QSails, Izmir, Turkey. QSails has shipped these sails worldwide. Emrah Oge, owner, manager, and avid sailor will present how sails are made and some key points to be aware of in the selection of sails for your Amel. 

QSails offers very fast shipments of sails for many Amel models. In fact, many Amel sails are actually shipped from pre-made stock at QSails.

To ensure that you get the best quality and the best price, QSails and Amel owners have designed 3 simple choices for you of Good, Better, and Best:

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Re: Chesapeake Haul and Bottom Paint Recommendations

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Paul,
It may give you more choices in yards not to limit it to soda blasting as conventional sand blasting is fine on the keel, masking off adjacent fiberglass,

Enjoy City Island - we sailed out of the Harlem YC for 20 years (I think they're still closed for Covid, though) and, Mark, Butch Ulmer made several sets of sails for us over the years, including the first set on our Santorin (well, Tommy Nye did those) - small world.

Cheers, Craig - SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Chesapeake Haul and Bottom Paint Recommendations

Mark Garver
 

Paul,

In the southern Chesapeake we have used Severn Yachting Center for most all of our repairs including haul outs. Not sure how many Amel’s besides ours they have worked on, but I will say they are very familiar with ours. The yard is located just off Mobjack Bay, off the York River, you can find them on Active Captain.

Mark Garver
S/V It’s Good
SM #105
Gloucester, VA


On Sep 1, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Paul Stascavage via groups.io <pstas2003@...> wrote:

Good day all,

We need to haul the RK in the near future for an insurance survey and while out we want to repaint the bottom.  In case we need to re-epoxy the cast iron keel this time around, I want to haul in a yard which has soda blasting capabilities. 

We will be in the Chesapeake come October and thought this would be a good place to get this done.  However, I am not familiar with any of the yards there.

Mark McGovern recommended Herrington Harbour in one of his earlier postings, but thought I would ask the community for some additional recommendations.  This will be our third time out of the water and the first in the US.  It is always stressful, but a bit easier if you have confidence in the yard and the staff that will be handling your home.

Mark, if you should see this post, please email me paul dot stascavage at icloud dot com as I have a few questions if you don’t mind. 

Thanks in advance for your replies.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Main furling motor and gear on 54

James Alton
 

Nick,

   Assuming that the worm gear and the shaft are both metal...  I would try heating the component  ( I assume this is the worm gear) with the hole to expand it while cooling the other part (the shaft) using ice or whatever you have.   Some gentle tapping might be ok. 

Best of luck,

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2020 8:52 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main furling motor and gear on 54

I know this has come up before, but I am servicing the main sail furling motor and worm drive.
It is all well but the top shaft seal should be replaced.
Problem;
Shaft into the worm gear is very tight. Soaked it in diesel for some hours, hesitant to hit it. Plan to find a press to press it out.
Does anyone have a better idea?
Nick
S/Y Amelia
Leros.
AML 55-019



Re: Chesapeake Haul and Bottom Paint Recommendations

Mark McGovern
 

Paul,

Saw your  message and shot you an email. 

FYI, my wife Denise grew up on City Island.  She lived on Early Street and was friends with the Ulmer family who ran the Ulmer Sails sail loft before it became UK Sailmakers!

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Chesapeake Haul and Bottom Paint Recommendations

Aras Grinius
 

Bert Jabins is also a very good spot.  They have handled quite a few Amels; Harmonie, Delos, and a few others.

Aras
Sharki #163 1989


On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 12:05 PM Paul Stascavage via groups.io <pstas2003=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Good day all,

We need to haul the RK in the near future for an insurance survey and while out we want to repaint the bottom.  In case we need to re-epoxy the cast iron keel this time around, I want to haul in a yard which has soda blasting capabilities. 

We will be in the Chesapeake come October and thought this would be a good place to get this done.  However, I am not familiar with any of the yards there.

Mark McGovern recommended Herrington Harbour in one of his earlier postings, but thought I would ask the community for some additional recommendations.  This will be our third time out of the water and the first in the US.  It is always stressful, but a bit easier if you have confidence in the yard and the staff that will be handling your home.

Mark, if you should see this post, please email me paul dot stascavage at icloud dot com as I have a few questions if you don’t mind. 

Thanks in advance for your replies.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com



--
Aras Grinius


Chesapeake Haul and Bottom Paint Recommendations

Paul Stascavage
 

Good day all,

We need to haul the RK in the near future for an insurance survey and while out we want to repaint the bottom.  In case we need to re-epoxy the cast iron keel this time around, I want to haul in a yard which has soda blasting capabilities. 

We will be in the Chesapeake come October and thought this would be a good place to get this done.  However, I am not familiar with any of the yards there.

Mark McGovern recommended Herrington Harbour in one of his earlier postings, but thought I would ask the community for some additional recommendations.  This will be our third time out of the water and the first in the US.  It is always stressful, but a bit easier if you have confidence in the yard and the staff that will be handling your home.

Mark, if you should see this post, please email me paul dot stascavage at icloud dot com as I have a few questions if you don’t mind. 

Thanks in advance for your replies.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Currently Exploring City Island, NY

www.RitaKathryn.com


Re: Anchor chain counter

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Having had an intermittently working chain counter for the past two years (it could not record properly the chain going down, but was OK on the chain going up), I share my two cents which worked in my case: I dismounted and opened the unit in the cockpit and sprayed it with « WD40 contact ». It worked like a charm since then. The same recipe worked on our Hydra 2000, which was acting and stopped working at times; I spread the contacts and all the electronic boards and all went back to 100%. Again, sure it doesn’t apply in all cases, but it worked in ours!

Guillaume 
Carpathia III, SM2K #293


Re: Main furling motor and gear on 54

Courtney Gorman
 

You need a Puller it's much safer
but if push comes to shove I hammered mine out with a blank and mini sledge


-----Original Message-----
From: ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2020 8:52 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Main furling motor and gear on 54

I know this has come up before, but I am servicing the main sail furling motor and worm drive.
It is all well but the top shaft seal should be replaced.
Problem;
Shaft into the worm gear is very tight. Soaked it in diesel for some hours, hesitant to hit it. Plan to find a press to press it out.
Does anyone have a better idea?
Nick
S/Y Amelia
Leros.
AML 55-019



Main furling motor and gear on 54

ngtnewington Newington
 

I know this has come up before, but I am servicing the main sail furling motor and worm drive.
It is all well but the top shaft seal should be replaced.
Problem;
Shaft into the worm gear is very tight. Soaked it in diesel for some hours, hesitant to hit it. Plan to find a press to press it out.
Does anyone have a better idea?
Nick
S/Y Amelia
Leros.
AML 55-019


Re: Bilge pump

Arno Luijten
 

Alexis,

I'm not sure how the routing is for the SM but in the 54 the drain pipe for the primary pump goes in a curve up and then down to the central drain-hose that also connects the manual bilgepump, the drain for the fridges and the brine output of the watermaker. So I connected the drain of the second pump AFTER the curve to this drain hose using a T-piece. I've tested it and it works fine. I can even run both pumps together to evacuate the water at super-speed. The second bilgepump has a double one-way valve in the output so no water goes back via either pump.
Bill Rouse made a page in his book about this if I'm not mistaken.

Kind regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A44-121