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Amel Yacht Owners Group
As a follow-up to Jose's email about "primary administrator" change to me, I would like to announce that we have 4 volunteer moderators. The primary duty of our moderators is to approve new members to the group. They are:
I changed the requirements for membership in the group to read:
There are no other changes envisioned or planned. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership
Thank you for taking that position on and doing a great job, I might add! Enjoy your respite.
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And Bill, thank you again for all you do for this great group of Amelians. It was a real pleasure to finally meet you, and all the other folks at the Rendezvous. Kent & Iris S/V Kristy SM 243
On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Thank so much for your great support and help.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma A/C saltwater plumbing - Using barnacle buster.
Hi Eric,
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I dilute the concentrate in 4 gallons of water, close the sea cock, and pour it in the sea chest with the AC cooling pump running. After a gallon or so has been pumped through, I let it sit overnight and then run the AC pump with sea water as usual. I do the same procedure with the Yanmar and Onan. So far my hoses and manifold are all clean as a whistle after doing this twice a year for 10 years. Kent S/V Kristy SM243
On Oct 11, 2018, at 11:48 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Hi Kent, Are we speaking about the AC cooling line? My plan was you use the Barnacle buster circulating tank and hook it up to the input of the engine room Manifold, then run a garden hose from the output seacock and back to the circulating bucket. They suggested to use it for 4-6 hours. Did you dilute the barnacle buster and if so what ratio? I will also do so with the engine and genset. I plan on disconnecting the water input to the watermaker while doing this. Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
I just flush with B.B. and let it sit i the lines over night once a year. So far all lines and manifold are free of any growth or scale. Kent SM 243 Kristy
Has anyone used barnacle buster and a circulating pump on the ac cooling water lines? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership
neurolept2
JL,
Thank you for a great job over the last several years. I appreciate the time you put into making a cohesive site.
Tom Costello
From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of lji0041@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 1:34 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership
To all mates:
Most of you know that I have been what Yahoo calls the "owner" (primary administrator) of the Amel Yacht Owners Group for some years. I assumed this position when asked by the original founder and "owner" of the group, Eric (Closereach).
I have really enjoyed our group and all of its members. Recently, I asked Bill Rouse to assume my position as I was struggling to keep it due to personal reasons. Bill graciously accepted. I will continue to be a member, but no longer "owner." Yahoo must have
one person designated as "owner" for each currently maintained Yahoo Group."
Bill has been always helping me, as to others, and I am glad he took a step forward when I could no longer sustain properly my position.
I still keep my Amel Euros 41, based in Burriana, in the Spanish coast of the Mediterranean sea, although I currently live in Madrid. Hope to see you guys sometime, somewhere.
All the best
JL
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Thank so much for your great support and help.
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This forum has been a wonderful resource over the years. We know it is in good hand with Bill. Sincerely, Alexandre --------------------------------------------
On Fri, 10/12/18, lji0041@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 12, 2018, 12:34 PM To all mates: Most of you know that I have been what Yahoo calls the "owner" (primary administrator) of the Amel Yacht Owners Group for some years. I assumed this position when asked by the original founder and "owner" of the group, Eric (Closereach). I have really enjoyed our group and all of its members. Recently, I asked Bill Rouse to assume my position as I was struggling to keep it due to personal reasons. Bill graciously accepted. I will continue to be a member, but no longer "owner." Yahoo must have one person designated as "owner" for each currently maintained Yahoo Group." Bill has been always helping me, as to others, and I am glad he took a step forward when I could no longer sustain properly my position. I still keep my Amel Euros 41, based in Burriana, in the Spanish coast of the Mediterranean sea, although I currently live in Madrid. Hope to see you guys sometime, somewhere. All the bestJL
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Re: A54 Anchor wash pump
svperegrinus@yahoo.com
I don't know if the 54's native pump has special characteristics compared to a 53 pump, but I would be remiss if I did not point out that when we bought hull Nr. 350 in 2012 it came with a Shurflo with the outside metal casting already all rusted out... It is now over six years later, we have anchored out thousands of times, always using the anchor wash pump... ... the Shurflo is still rusted out and still as powerful and 100% reliable as it was in 2012. (It will probably fail tomorrow morning when we lift anchor, just to spite us). Cheerio, Peregrinus SM2K Nr. 350 (2002) At anchor, Porto Rafael, Sardinia
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership
Stephen Davis
Thank you JL for administering the group for all these years, and thanks to Bill for stepping up to take over this responsibility. Steve Davis Aloha SM 72 KoOlina, Hawaii
On Oct 12, 2018, at 08:13, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership
Porter McRoberts
Agreed!! Thank you both JL and Bill!
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Porter
On Oct 12, 2018, at 1:01 PM, John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership
John Clark
I would like to thank you for all the work maintaining the site, internet administration is not an easy job. Regards, John SV Annie SM 37 Prickly Bay Grenada.
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Change of group ownership
Jose_Luis Isasi
To all mates: Most of you know that I have been what Yahoo calls the "owner" (primary administrator) of the Amel Yacht Owners Group for some years. I assumed this position when asked by the original founder and "owner" of the group, Eric (Closereach). I have really enjoyed our group and all of its members. Recently, I asked Bill Rouse to assume my position as I was struggling to keep it due to personal reasons. Bill graciously accepted. I will continue to be a member, but no longer "owner." Yahoo must have one person designated as "owner" for each currently maintained Yahoo Group." Bill has been always helping me, as to others, and I am glad he took a step forward when I could no longer sustain properly my position. I still keep my Amel Euros 41, based in Burriana, in the Spanish coast of the Mediterranean sea, although I currently live in Madrid. Hope to see you guys sometime, somewhere. All the best JL
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Re: 1980 Sharki (SV TAKOUMI?)
delaney.watkins@gmail.com <no_reply@...>
Talked to the broker, Steve was correct the Sharki has been sold. The broker then offered to show us a Morgan. I can’t quite make sense of such an offer.
Thanks again, Dee
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 1980 Sharki (SV TAKOUMI?)
Willem Kroes
Hi Dee,
Have you looked at the Sharky named Joss. She is owned by a Dutch former technician and very good maintained. Recent engine, bow thruster recently rebuild, very complete. She is on Levkas in Greece. The only reason for selling is age.
Regards,
Willem Kroes
SM #351 KAVANGA
Now on the hard in Cartagena, Spain
Op 12 okt. 2018 15:16 schreef "Steve Leeds yachtmaccabee@... [amelyachtowners]" :
Hi Dee,
It's a nice boat but I'm pretty sure it is already sold.
Steve Leeds
Sharki #121
On Friday, October 12, 2018, 8:07:54 AM EDT, delaney.watkins@... wrote:
My wife and I are considering traveling down to Florida to look at a 1980 Sharki that is listed on YachtWorld. Curious if anyone has any information on this particular vessel beyond what is listed on the YW advert?
A name is partially visible in one of the photos and appears to be TAKOUMI. A google search reveals a blog post in French which appears to be about this vessel.
Has anyone actually seen this Sharki in person recently? If, so what condition is it in? Is it worth the trip to Florida from Virginia to look at it?
Any insight would be appreciated.
Respectfully,
Dee
looking for an Amel
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma A/C saltwater plumbing - Using barnacle buster.
eric freedman
Thanks Mark, Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 7:30 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma A/C saltwater plumbing - Using barnacle buster.
Hi Eric,
I have done this as a regular part of maintenance every 6 month for the past 5 years. It is perfectly fine to use phosphoric acid or barnacle buster on the AC units. I don’t use BB anymore. I just buy phosphoric acid in the paint department of a hardware store or Sherman Williams for about ¼ of the BB price.
I use a set up just as you describe to re-circulate the acid. Be sure to use a filter in the bucket to catch the junk. I put a mesh balloon over the hose dumping into the bucket so the junk is not re-circulated.
If you use the concentrated BB which is about 17% phosphoric acid, use a solution of 30% acid 70% water in the bucket. There is a lot of water in the pipeline to add to the dilution.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Aruba www.creampuff.us
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi Kent, Are we speaking about the AC cooling line? My plan was you use the Barnacle buster circulating tank and hook it up to the input of the engine room Manifold, then run a garden hose from the output seacock and back to the circulating bucket. They suggested to use it for 4-6 hours. Did you dilute the barnacle buster and if so what ratio? I will also do so with the engine and genset. I plan on disconnecting the water input to the watermaker while doing this. Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
I just flush with B.B. and let it sit i the lines over night once a year.. So far all lines and manifold are free of any growth or scale. Kent SM 243 Kristy
Has anyone used barnacle buster and a circulating pump on the ac cooling water lines? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: 1980 Sharki (SV TAKOUMI?)
delaney.watkins@gmail.com <no_reply@...>
Steve, thank you for the information. That is incredibly unfortunate.
If anyone has any information on another Sharki (preferably on the Eastern coast of North America) that is not listed on YW please let us know! Respectfully, Dee looking for an Amel
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 1980 Sharki (SV TAKOUMI?)
Steve Leeds
Hi Dee, It's a nice boat but I'm pretty sure it is already sold. Steve Leeds Sharki #121
On Friday, October 12, 2018, 8:07:54 AM EDT, delaney.watkins@... wrote:
My wife and I are considering traveling down to Florida to look at a 1980 Sharki that is listed on YachtWorld. Curious if anyone has any information on this particular vessel beyond what is listed on the YW advert? A name is partially visible in one of the photos and appears to be TAKOUMI. A google search reveals a blog post in French which appears to be about this vessel. Has anyone actually seen this Sharki in person recently? If, so what condition is it in? Is it worth the trip to Florida from Virginia to look at it? Any insight would be appreciated. Respectfully, Dee looking for an Amel
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Carbon Dioxide
Hi Pat,
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Sounds like that's the likely culprit. Important reminder to all. Cheers, Craig ---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailw32@...> wrote : Craig, We had the hatch open in the head , so I suppose that was the source. I get up first and start the genset every morning and my wife usually smells exhaust while in the aft cabin. Maybe while moving, enough air is moving thru to keep the level down, once stopped it builds. I can't answer the how or why, just want to report the possibility of high levels of CO ,so people are mindful of it . Pat SM#123
-----Original Message----- From: sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2018 9:24 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Carbon Dioxide Hi Pat, So do you think it was from open hatches while you were motoring sucking exhaust into the aft cabin, but that did not set off the alarm then but only after you shut down the engine and presumably spent some time getting stuff off the boat etc., then closed the boat? That seems a really strange sequence of events as there's simply no more CO being generated after you shut down the engine. Do you think if someone was sleeping aft during your six hour motor they might have been subject to high CO levels? Or did CO somehow get created overnight or have been stored somewhere, like the engine room, and then seeped into the aft cabin.. There must be a "rest of the story" somewhere in all this. Being careful is paramount, but knowing what the problem is is arguably more so. Ours has never gone off with exhaust or battery gassing, but does go off with raw propane and with tr
ansmitting on the SSB and with weak batteries. Cheers, Craig SN68 ---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailw32@...> wrote : Ryan, The batteries were not being charged. However, I thought of that and placed the unit in the battery compartment,it remained at zero. Pat SM#123
-----Original Message----- From: Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2018 6:41 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Carbon Dioxide On my old boat, I saw what you experienced many, many times. I was initially extremely concerned, as one should be. But then one day my boat got unplugged from shore power by the dock staff, and that night after plugging it back in I was awakened by the CO alarm.. There had been nothing on board that produces CO in many days. After much experimentation, I proved to my own satisfaction that the CO alarm was actually sensitive to hydrogen gas produced by the batteries when they were excessively charged. It seems this is true for many CO alarms. Take the alarm seriously. Air the boat out well, and take care not to let exhaust inside. But also check to see if your battery compartment ventilation is working correctly, and also check th
at your batteries aren't overcharging. Some chargers will keep the voltage too high even though the batteries are full because other loads (e.g. refrigerator) are making the charger believe the batteries are still accepting a lot of current. Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration Boston, MA, USA
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Re: SM Turnbuckle
Hi Paul, Let's see if I've got this about right - the underwriters and bean counters think that statistically the financial risk to their company of old turnbuckles failing is low enough that they'll take it on, although they do want you to replace the wires. Will they be crewing with you on your offshore passages? I kinda think brother Joel still has a point. And I recall the turnbuckles were a relatively small portion of the total rigging cost. Then again, we lost a mizzen forward lower while coastal cruising off Sicily and, other than the loud crack scaring the livin' bejezus out of us, it in no way jeopardized the boat. It was the wire breaking at the lower swage on the original 18 year old ACMO rigging. We patched it and continued our season, but did replace all rigging (and turnbuckles) that winter. Cheers, Craig SN68 Sangaris ---In amelyachtowners@..., <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote : I asked my Insurer Y Yacht about rigg failure and only replacing the wire and not the turnbuckle. The answer wasdo Rig failures on Amels are not a serious problem and your plans for changing the standing rigging are perfectly acceptable. Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259 We plan to change the standing rigging this season when we get to Martinique. I assume the current turnbuckles are made from stainless steel and need to be replaced as well. Better material for a turnbuckle is bronze, crome or nickel plated. Then next time to change the standing rigging it should be enough to just replace the wire not the bronze turnbuckles.. Anyone having bronze turnbuckles or anyone having thought of the issue? Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259
Hi Paul, If they are the original turnbuckles from ACMO, that Amel uses, they are chromed bronze, not stainless steel. Brother Joel insists the best practice is to replace all turnbuckles (& clevis pins, etc.) whenever you do the rigging. He also recommends switching to mechanical fittings like Norseman or Sta-loc, at least on the bottom ends, rather than the swaged fittings that Amel/ACMO used originally. He's got a point. Cheers, Craig SN68
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Carbon Dioxide
Patrick McAneny
Craig, We had the hatch open in the head , so I suppose that was the source. I get up first and start the genset every morning and my wife usually smells exhaust while in the aft cabin. Maybe while moving, enough air is moving thru to keep the level down, once stopped it builds. I can't answer the how or why, just want to report the possibility of high levels of CO ,so people are mindful of it .
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Pat
SM#123
-----Original Message----- From: sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2018 9:24 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Carbon Dioxide Hi Pat,
So do you think it was from open hatches while you were motoring sucking exhaust into the aft cabin, but that did not set off the alarm then but only after you shut down the engine and presumably spent some time getting stuff off the boat etc., then closed the boat? That seems a really strange sequence of events as there's simply no more CO being generated after you shut down the engine. Do you think if someone was sleeping aft during your six hour motor they might have been subject to high CO levels? Or did CO somehow get created overnight or have been stored somewhere, like the engine room, and then seeped into the aft cabin..
There must be a "rest of the story" somewhere in all this. Being careful is paramount, but knowing what the problem is is arguably more so.
Ours has never gone off with exhaust or battery gassing, but does go off with raw propane and with tr
ansmitting on the SSB and with weak batteries.
Cheers, Craig SN68
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote : Ryan, The batteries were not being charged. However, I thought of that and placed the unit in the battery compartment,it remained at zero.
Pat
SM#123
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2018 6:41 pm Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Carbon Dioxide On my old boat, I saw what you experienced many, many times. I was initially extremely concerned, as one should be. But then one day my boat got unplugged from shore power by the dock staff, and that night after plugging it back in I was awakened by the CO alarm.. There had been nothing on board that produces CO in many days. After much experimentation, I proved to my own satisfaction that the CO alarm was actually sensitive to hydrogen gas produced by the batteries when they were excessively charged. It seems this is true for many CO alarms.
Take the alarm seriously. Air the boat out well, and take care not to let exhaust inside. But also check to see if your battery compartment ventilation is working correctly, and also check th
at your batteries aren't overcharging. Some chargers will keep the voltage too high even though the batteries are full because other loads (e.g. refrigerator) are making the charger believe the batteries are still accepting a lot of current.
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA
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1980 Sharki (SV TAKOUMI?)
delaney.watkins@gmail.com <no_reply@...>
My wife and I are considering traveling down to Florida to look at a 1980 Sharki that is listed on YachtWorld. Curious if anyone has any information on this particular vessel beyond what is listed on the YW advert? A name is partially visible in one of the photos and appears to be TAKOUMI. A google search reveals a blog post in French which appears to be about this vessel. Has anyone actually seen this Sharki in person recently? If, so what condition is it in? Is it worth the trip to Florida from Virginia to look at it? Any insight would be appreciated. Respectfully, Dee looking for an Amel
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)
jlm@jlmertz.fr
-- Bernard Ancelle
Le 11/10/2018 à 22:00,
divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] a écrit :
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