Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator exhaust sensor
Hi Bill.
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Thanks for that. I have to sets of wires going to each terminal. Definitely when connected it shuts down. Do you think I should go ahead and order or it might me a different part? Regards
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator exhaust sensor
I can confirm that it is Switch Temperature Exhaust cutoff Onan Part 309-0295-01 But, I thought it was normally closed. It sounds like yours is normally open? It may be possible that 1 or more of these are connected in series and the actual fault is on the next in the series. I had a mechanic on board who accidentally broke that sensor on the exhaust elbow. He did not tell me he broke it and a few days later I found the 2 wires on that sensor tied together. The generator worked fine with them connected and shut down with them disconnected. Of course it is possible that different Onan models operate differently. Here is a photo of the two wires tied together. BTW, that mechanic bought a new cutoff sensor. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 2:20 PM Alin Misescu alin1923@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Ballooner Not Locking
Ian, Maybe the attached will help you. I got the photo of the plastic piece that connects to the the tongue and added it to my book today. Thanks Danny Simms and Gary Wells. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 3:04 AM Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator exhaust sensor
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator exhaust sensor
Thanks for your answer. I measured the resistance through the switch and there is a permanent contact. So the switch is on all the times.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Climma AC - Breaker Tripping - New unit recommendations?
Willem Kroes
Yes Duane, with the Webasto units it works without a problem.
Kind regards,
Willem Kroes
SM # 351 KAVANGA
Op 19 okt. 2018 7:52 p.m. schreef "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" :
For those who have replaced a Climma unit with a Webasto or Dometic unit: did the Relay Box for the Sea Water Pump in the Engine Room work with the new air conditioning unit? I'm assuming that all compact AC units would be set up to wire to a relay box rather than direct to a seawater pump only.
Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477
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Re: Climma AC - Breaker Tripping - New unit recommendations?
Duane Siegfri
For those who have replaced a Climma unit with a Webasto or Dometic unit: did the Relay Box for the Sea Water Pump in the Engine Room work with the new air conditioning unit?
I'm assuming that all compact AC units would be set up to wire to a relay box rather than direct to a seawater pump only. Thanks, Duane Wanderer, SM#477
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Re: Gennaker
Dave_Benjamin
Duane,
What you're referring to as a "gennaker" probably isn't a gennaker. It's a downwind sail (balooner) that you will enjoy sailing deep angles (150-180) with. The windspeed restriction is very conservative. Maybe that's apparent wind as opposed to actual? I don't have a SM manual in front of me but you do need to run the sheet through a block then up to the winch. We've built some light air reaching sails for SM's that fill in the gap not covered by the balooner.
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Re: For Sale, Super Maramu # 180
tango708@...
Hi Fellow Amel owners those looking to purchase. I have lowered the price on our well maintained and upgraded SM, which is for sale in the Annapolis area. The boat is a 1996 with lots of new systems. In fact she is newer than most SM2000's in that she was re-powered with a Yanmar 4JH4-HTE, 110 hp turbo diesel (1200 hours), re-rigged by Nance Underwood with oversized US wire and Stay-Lok terminals top and bottom 2016, new AGM earlier this year, new dodger earlier this year, new dinghy and 15 hp Yamaha outboard (3-4th tank of gas), new CAT water maker pump, new 100 amp battery charger, new soft furnishings etc. Although, the boat has lots of updates she is all Amel and the integrity of the Amel systems have been maintained. The interior is in excellent condition the wood work and vinyl are all in excellent condition. Email me at wtstout at mac dot com for a flyer or to arrange a viewing.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator exhaust sensor
VLADIMIR SONSEV
It can be bad temperature switch or it could be low water flow and switch shuts it off because overhitting. Vladimir SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan generator exhaust sensor
Ian Shepherd
Hi Alin, The Onan part number is 0309-0295-01 Switch - Temperature. I got a spare from my local Onan dealer. Your problem is not unheard of. Good luck. Ian shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader Marmaris Turkey
On 19/10/2018 09:31, alin1923@...
[amelyachtowners] wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Ballooner Not Locking [1 Attachment]
Ian Shepherd
Thanks Danny, I could not get it down this morning to look but will do so at the first opportunity. Regards Ian Crusader
On 19/10/2018 01:31, Danny and Yvonne
SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Service Agents Responsibilities
Ian Shepherd
Hello Peter, I am really sorry to hear your bad luck story. I am a great believer in doing as much as I can on the boat myself. Most things are easy to get at and not so technically challenging. There is so much guidance now on uTube too. I really regret calling in Marlin to look at the engine. It being almost impossible to start and getting worse prompted me to do so before I found myself on a windless day in a perilous situation. Thanks for the reply Ian
On 19/10/2018 00:47, Peter Forbes
ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
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Onan generator exhaust sensor
Hello everyone. I have a problem with my Onan on a SM 2k, the generator starts and dies. After some reading , I discovered the problem, the sensor that is placed on the exhaust elbow. I took the wires and isolated them from each other and it runs perfectly. You put them together, the engine dies. Si I am pretty sure it is the sensor. Do you guys know where I can order it and what do I ask for? Is it called exhaust heat sensor?
Thank you. Regards, Alin
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Ballooner Not Locking
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi. I attach a photo of the swivel with the tongue beside it. Second try. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 19 October 2018 at 07:02 "Danny Simms sailorman.ds@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leroy Somers Outhaul gearbox and motor
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Here is a comparaison between the 2 transmissions I did:
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http://www.nikimat.com/furler_transmission_leroy_somer_vs_bonfiglioli.html Sincerely, Alexandre --------------------------------------------
On Thu, 10/18/18, John Clark john.biohead@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leroy Somers Outhaul gearbox and motor To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 18, 2018, 9:58 AM Hi Kent, the gearboxes on Annie were in poor condition when I bought the boat. i replaced them in their entirety. If the top plate on the box is damaged maybe the simplest way forward is to just buy a new gearbox. I had Bonfig's and they were about $200 USD in the US. I realize yours are different but i cannot imagine that the cost would vary too much. As far as the seals are concerned I think that most mechanical parts found in an assembly like these gear boxes is an off the shelf part. If you have the casing and shaft diameter and the depth you can most likely replace the seal with another brand. I rooted around on the forum last year when rebuilding the emergency main furling gearbox. It took a bit but in the forum there were parts lists with easily sourced contemporary replacements.....for example the thrust bearing is also the front wheel bearing for an Acura NSX, the seals were from a Nissan..... you get the idea. Do a deepo dive oon the foorum and see if you can find someone else who did the same job. Regards, JohnSV AnnieSM 37Hartman Bay Grenada On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 9:23 AM karkauai@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Amelians, I am doing maintenance on my outhaul gear box, and need new lip seals. The gears still look great and the grease looks new without any evidence of water intrusion. The double lip ones on the main shaft are unusual in that there is a steel plate embedded in the crown of the seals. It is ferrous and rusty. They are ID 35mm OD 45mm Depth 5mm, and marked: ERIKS -F 2 BAF SL DRW 30 45 5 After trying other seal manufacturers, Leroy Somers USA, and Amel, I still haven’t found anyplace that can/will sell them to me. Maud says she can’t help. I’m waiting to hear back from ERIKS but have little hope that they will be able to source them. First question: what is the steel plate embedded in the crown of the seals for? Would a seal without the plate work just as well? Second: has anyone found a source for these seals? Third: The upper plate on the gearbox was broken getting it off of the boom. Has anyone had one of these made at a machine shop? Any issues? As usual, thank you for your help and expertise. Happy Sailing Kent SM 243 KRISTY St Michaels MD USA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Leroy Somers Outhaul gearbox and motor
Hi again, Interesting Mike O, Craig (Sangaris) said that many lip seals have a supportive steel ring embedded in the crown. I guess the rubber has disintegrated and exposed the rusting steel, but the rest of the rubber looks pretty good. Kent Robertson S/V Kristy SM243
On Oct 18, 2018, at 3:05 PM, Mike Ondra mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
I think the steel is just a structural backbone for the seal and other materials are configurations would give you longer life. I replaced ours with off-the-shelf SKF seals. Also the bow thruster seals. Sent from my Verizon Motorola Droid On Oct 18, 2018 2:25 PM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Service Agents Responsibilities
Dear Ian,
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No help really but you are not the only one. I had Volvo agent Papeete Tahiti service my Volvo and mend a minor leak in the water pump. They apparently re- installed the ancillary drive belt incorrectly which shortly afterwards (we were in remote Reatea by then) shredded which in turn broke the main cam belt tensioner pulley and destroyed the engine. The analysis of this fault cause and effect was carried out for me by a main Volvo distributor agent recently retired from France to French Polynesia. I broached this ‘negligence ‘ to the Volvo against that caused the problem - there shrugged their shoulders and said ‘not our fault - we will not accept any liability’. I had to rely on their help to lend me the tools to effect the repair (they said they would not do the job as they lacked the experience) so I had no choice but to pay up and move on. My bank balance was damaged a bit more than yours in this case. Good luck. Peter Peter Forbes 00447836 209730
On 18 Oct 2018, at 20:15, Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Grenada Insurance Coverage
Oops! Hit the send button by mistake.
Steve,
Spice Island Marine in Grenada cannot meet the Pantaenius new requirements. The are no cradles or pits. Boats are blocked with jack stands and tethered to ground screws. These were all installed post Hurricane Ivan.
I am a big fan of Pantaenius and have sent many boaters their way. But, I really think their new restrictions are overly zealous and I am refraining from any further recommendations. The requirements are just about impossible to meet just about anywhere in the Carib. So, perhaps they are sending a message to boaters in the Carib?. If they do not change their requirements, I think it will cost them in the long run. This is a shame because they have an excellent reputation. These restrictions will likely force some people to shop for other options.
Perhaps Pantaenius should be a little more realistic or perhaps provide to owners the very short list of facilities in the Carib known to be able to meet the new requirements, if any exists.
You should also check with Clarks Court Marine in Grenada but I’m pretty sure that also will not be able to meet the requirements.
If you have the option of leaving your vessel in the water with the Pantaenius policy as we do, the St Louis Marina in Grenada can meet the requirements since the have solid concrete docks. You’ll need to have some ridiculous amount of fenders (I think it’s 20) to meet the policy requirements.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Aruba www.creampuff.us
From:
amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hello All. TouRai is presently in Hampton Virginia preparing for the Salty Dawg Rally to the BVI. As this year's plan may involve a summer in Grenada, we are working with Pantaenius to obtain our new coverage. While reading through the "Named Tropical Storm Plan Requirements" of my new policy quote, Pantaenius writes: 1.
The
insured vessel shall be hauled and secured a unitized cradle suitable for the
vessel or in a hurricane pit. With either arrangement, the vessel is to be
lashed directly to the ground or to concrete blocks, one concrete block with a
minimum weight of 5000 lbs to be located at each lashing anchor point. Lashing
is to be accomplished using a minimum of one (1) tensioning strap located
symmetrically on each side of the vessel for every 10 feet of vessel length.
My question to the members here who have spent time in Grenada is, "how difficult is it to meet such requirements in Grenada? Is this the sort of set up I can expect to find on short notice, or is this a setup that Pantaenius assumes I can't fulfill? When summering in Grenada, do you pay a haul out facility to hold a spot for you should you need it?
Any advice would be welcome as our renewal date is approaching. Staying below 30.5 already comes with a stiff premium increase through Pantaenius, I just want to believe that I am not paying more for coverage stipulations that I will not be ale to satisfy should the time come.
All the best to you all as we await the annual 01Nov release...
Steve Morrison SM 380 TouRai Hampton, VA
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Grenada Insurance Coverage
Steve,
Spice Island Marine in Grenada cannot meet the Pantaenius new requirements. The are no cradles or pits. Boats are blocked with jack stands and tethered to ground screws.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff www.creampuff.us
From:
amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hello All. TouRai is presently in Hampton Virginia preparing for the Salty Dawg Rally to the BVI. As this year's plan may involve a summer in Grenada, we are working with Pantaenius to obtain our new coverage. While reading through the "Named Tropical Storm Plan Requirements" of my new policy quote, Pantaenius writes: 1.
The
insured vessel shall be hauled and secured a unitized cradle suitable for the
vessel or in a hurricane pit. With either arrangement, the vessel is to be
lashed directly to the ground or to concrete blocks, one concrete block with a
minimum weight of 5000 lbs to be located at each lashing anchor point. Lashing
is to be accomplished using a minimum of one (1) tensioning strap located
symmetrically on each side of the vessel for every 10 feet of vessel length.
My question to the members here who have spent time in Grenada is, "how difficult is it to meet such requirements in Grenada? Is this the sort of set up I can expect to find on short notice, or is this a setup that Pantaenius assumes I can't fulfill? When summering in Grenada, do you pay a haul out facility to hold a spot for you should you need it?
Any advice would be welcome as our renewal date is approaching. Staying below 30.5 already comes with a stiff premium increase through Pantaenius, I just want to believe that I am not paying more for coverage stipulations that I will not be ale to satisfy should the time come.
All the best to you all as we await the annual 01Nov release...
Steve Morrison SM 380 TouRai Hampton, VA
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