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Jimmy Cornell - Crossing the Atlantic via ZOOM and YouTube - Sat, 10/10/2020 20:00-21:00, Please RSVP #cal-reminder

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Reminder: Jimmy Cornell - Crossing the Atlantic via ZOOM and YouTube

When: Saturday, 10 October 2020, 20:00 to 21:00, (GMT+00:00) UTC

Where:Internet ZOOM

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@... +18323804970

Description:

Jimmy Cornell has influenced the contemporary cruising scene more than any other sailor. An accomplished sailor, public speaker and author, he has sailed over 200,000 miles in all oceans of the world including three circumnavigations as well as voyages to Antarctica and the Northwest Passage.

Thousands of sailors have fulfilled their dream of blue water cruising with the help of Jimmy Cornell’s books, among them the international bestseller World Cruising Routes. Now in its 8th edition, and with over 200,000 copies sold to date, this is one of the best selling nautical publications in the world.

As the founder of the highly successful ARC transatlantic rally, Jimmy Cornell is credited with having devised the offshore cruising rally concept. In the last four decades, Jimmy Cornell has organized 38 transatlantic rallies, five round the world rallies, and one round the world race, with over 3,000 boats and 15,000 sailors having participated in his sailing events.

From my perspective, the first Jimmy Cornell seminar that Judy and I attended was after we had sailed most of the world and had over 20 years of sailing experience. We learned a lot!

We are very pleased that Jimmy has taken time out of his very busy schedule to give a special ZOOM presentation to the Amel Yacht Owners Group. I encourage you to RSVP soon for this meeting.

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CW Bill Rouse


Re: Tender Amel 54

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Bill,

 

To prove your point. I have never used the seat cover for our Highfield. I really have no use for it and would have preferred it if they took $20 off the price of the dinghy and kept it. I guess I have added to the cause J

 

We do like the Highfield dinghy.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2020 5:16 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Ian,

 

You touched on one of my favorite subjects, so I will comment in an "old-man rant" sort of reply.

 

It is very common today that manufacturers omit certain added features or components because the buyer rarely buys the product based on the addition or the quality of these added features or components. It is a fact of life in manufacturing and selling any product. Many manufacturers choose to not add cost when they know the buyer is not focussed on the benefit of the associated added cost of that feature or component during his buying decision. Things have changed since the days when manufacturers, like Amel, included many costly components in the purchase price. You and I are aware of the time when an Amel included 5 sails and more than one Amel owner never used either ballooner.

 

The good news is the seat cover can be used as an excellent pattern for someone to make one from Sunbrella...and Highfield has given us a full year to have a quality seat cover made! The same thing goes for the included dinghy cover. Highfield and 3D share the same not-so-good supplier of these components.

 

Of course, this is all caused by us, the buyer. 

 

We almost never inquire about the quality of these added components and spend almost all of our time inquiring about other things like price. In fact, Highfield would likely lose sales if they increased the price of the dinghy to cover the additional cost of quality fabric. So, in this case, Highfield is doing exactly what "we" want.

 

Bill

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

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On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 3:32 AM Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:

The Highfield seat cover and pocket is a nice design. Unfortunately the fabric is poor quality for the purpose. I have had two seat covers now and both disintegrated after a year; not UV proof!


Re: Tender Amel 54

 

Ian,

You touched on one of my favorite subjects, so I will comment in an "old-man rant" sort of reply.

It is very common today that manufacturers omit certain added features or components because the buyer rarely buys the product based on the addition or the quality of these added features or components. It is a fact of life in manufacturing and selling any product. Many manufacturers choose to not add cost when they know the buyer is not focussed on the benefit of the associated added cost of that feature or component during his buying decision. Things have changed since the days when manufacturers, like Amel, included many costly components in the purchase price. You and I are aware of the time when an Amel included 5 sails and more than one Amel owner never used either ballooner.

The good news is the seat cover can be used as an excellent pattern for someone to make one from Sunbrella...and Highfield has given us a full year to have a quality seat cover made! The same thing goes for the included dinghy cover. Highfield and 3D share the same not-so-good supplier of these components.

Of course, this is all caused by us, the buyer. 

We almost never inquire about the quality of these added components and spend almost all of our time inquiring about other things like price. In fact, Highfield would likely lose sales if they increased the price of the dinghy to cover the additional cost of quality fabric. So, in this case, Highfield is doing exactly what "we" want.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 3:32 AM Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:
The Highfield seat cover and pocket is a nice design. Unfortunately the fabric is poor quality for the purpose. I have had two seat covers now and both disintegrated after a year; not UV proof!


Re: Engine oil alternatives

Philippe Belloir
 

API classification of oils.

Designation of oils for commercial vehicles with diesel engines. The classes in use at the moment for vehicles of different years are CH, CI, CJ and CK. The number 4 following the class designation signifies 4-stroke engine vehicles. Let's look at grade C oils in detail:

 CH-4. Introduced in 1998. Suitable for engines that use high quality gasoline with sulfur content up to 0.5% by weight.

 CI-4. Introduced in 2002. This type of engine oil provides reliable protection of the engine and exhaust system against soot deposits, and prevents premature wear of its components. Some lubricating materials of this class are designated CI-4 PLUS.

 CJ-4. They have excellent high temperature stability, resist oxidation and have a long service life.

 CK. Developed for the protection of engines manufactured in 2017. However, engine oils of this type can optionally be used on older engine models.


Philippe Belloir  
+33 781 709 791


-------- Message d'origine --------
De : "Bryce Procter via groups.io" <Balibryce@...>
Date : 10/10/2020 10:07 (GMT+01:00)
À : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Objet : [AmelYachtOwners] Engine oil alternatives

Morning all,

I am having difficulty sourcing the recommended engine oil for the Yanmar 43H3HTE Turbo in Malaysia. Can anyone recommend a high quality alternative.

Regards 

Bryce
SM 2K #467


Re: Tender Amel 54

Ian Park
 

The Highfield seat cover and pocket is a nice design. Unfortunately the fabric is poor quality for the purpose. I have had two seat covers now and both disintegrated after a year; not UV proof!


Re: Engine oil alternatives

Matt Salatino
 

Believe it or not, many brands of oil originate from the same refinery. Economies of scale require large quantities of a particular grade of oil to be run at one time. Many retailers send their oil containers to the same refinery when that refinery is running a particular type of oil. So pick a brand you like, but pay attention to the API standard. It must be marked on the container.
I believe the latest for diesel engines is either Cj or Ck. Here is a good reference:

On Oct 9, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Bryce Procter via groups.io <Balibryce@...> wrote:

Morning all,

I am having difficulty sourcing the recommended engine oil for the Yanmar 43H3HTE Turbo in Malaysia. Can anyone recommend a high quality alternative.

Regards 

Bryce
SM 2K #467


Re: Engine oil alternatives

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Bryce,
I googled the manual for your engine and see that it calls for API Rating CD and 15W40 SAE Viscosity. That's actually an obsolete rating which may explain why you can't find it. Ratings are "backwards compatible" so any newer rating is fine. Current diesel engine ratings include CH, Ci and CJ. Stick with any brand name and you'll be fine. With Malaysia temperatures, you'd also be fine with just 30 weight oil, if the 15W40 isn't available. 
Smooth motoring to you,
Craig -- SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Engine oil alternatives

Bryce Procter
 

Morning all,

I am having difficulty sourcing the recommended engine oil for the Yanmar 43H3HTE Turbo in Malaysia. Can anyone recommend a high quality alternative.

Regards 

Bryce
SM 2K #467


Re: Tender Amel 54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks for the update Teun.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 1:13 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

If you blow up the attached picture you can see the 2 storage pockets on port side; same on the SB side as well as the OCT seat/PFD stored Port side aft next to the engine. 2 of those seats on board and also 2 paddles stored under the each gun whale.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 9, 2020 13:12:54

 

From: Teun BAAS
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 13:03
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: RE: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad, Nick and Heinz,

 

Mohammad,

 

I have not experienced any problems with maneuverability and stability. In fact I perceive the stability to be better than the other dinghies I had with the exception of the huge HIGHFIELD.

I had frequently very rough water in NOUMEA and the ride was fine while keeping the passengers and the groceries much, much drier than the previous dinghies.

 

Since the 3.9Meter, HIGHFIELD Ocean Master HYP with 50HP HONDA too big & heavy, I bought 3.5M MAXXON in NEW ZEALAND. Tubes way to small and constantly wet butt (I had a female friend visiting and she was not happy) & groceries. Then got a 3.50M SMART WAVE 3500 hard dinghy (unsinkable & dry butt 😊) but very, very heavy – dumb decision and luckily this developed a leak and I was able to return while I ordered the OCT. However, there was a delay in shipping the OCT to NOUMEA (Not OCT fault) so diverted to PORT VILA VANUATU but I was leaving for VANUATU and needed a dinghy for 4 or 5 weeks and got a HIGHFIELD (attached picture). As from May 2019 had the OCT and very, very happy.

 

Heinz,

 

Yep long order time – that was one of the problems. I ordered in December 2018 for delivery in March 2019 and finally got it in VANUATU in May 2019 but 2 months delay were due to shipping problems caused by a friend of mine as we originally were going to ship to NOUMEA NEW CAL in one of his containers and that didn’t work out as planned.

 

Nick,

 

Pls see attached 2 pictures; You can order from OCT a very, very sturdy “rub rail”; no problem at all banging the hull or other boats.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54, 2009 #128

October 9, 2020 12:57:55

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of heinz@... via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 02:08
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

 

Hello 

I have tried to get an Oct in New Zealand one in the Aprill. You need about 2 to 3 months for an order. That was a pity because I could not wait that long. 

But I do not know what the situation is like today. All the people I spoke to were very enthusiastic. 

 

In March there where 4 yachts with such boats in Wangarei. Also the boss of Riverside Drive Marina has one on his motor boat and a Amel 54 from Australia. It is very well padded and very stable. 

I would have liked to buy one despite high price. 

I had a 3 D tender before. Bought in Martinique.  After 2 years no more air in every tupe

 

Some boats are not built for tropical sun and should never be sold there. 

Now I have a Highfeelt.

Cheers 

Heinz

SM2000, 292, Quetzal waiting for getting back to Newzealand. 

 

 

Am 09.10.2020 um 10:26 schrieb Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...>:

Hello Mohammed,

 

You will not be disappointed by OCT.. although my AB 9.5 UL rides a bit softer and is faster ... due in part to the superb 2 str Yamaha 15... 

 

It is very stable and rides nicely.  OCT has a video of a man standing on a gun whale and it has only a slight list.

 

A54 Mari, late model 54, has the 300 and it fits on his aft deck with no issue.  

 

Very intelligent design... IMO!

 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ

 

 

On 9 Oct 2020, at 18:21, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:



 

Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

 

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

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Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099



Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


--

Hello 

Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 

If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 

I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 

But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 

Does anyone know this problem. 

Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 

Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?

I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: The Onan High Temperature sensors are here

eric freedman
 

Hi Amelians,

The second line of numbers on the switch ends in a 4 digit number . They are different than the number on

your switch as that is the manufactured date.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

The Onan High Temperature sensors are here.

Please send checks as per my email to you.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 


Re: Tender Amel 54

Teun BAAS
 

If you blow up the attached picture you can see the 2 storage pockets on port side; same on the SB side as well as the OCT seat/PFD stored Port side aft next to the engine. 2 of those seats on board and also 2 paddles stored under the each gun whale.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 9, 2020 13:12:54

 

From: Teun BAAS
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 13:03
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: RE: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad, Nick and Heinz,

 

Mohammad,

 

I have not experienced any problems with maneuverability and stability. In fact I perceive the stability to be better than the other dinghies I had with the exception of the huge HIGHFIELD.

I had frequently very rough water in NOUMEA and the ride was fine while keeping the passengers and the groceries much, much drier than the previous dinghies.

 

Since the 3.9Meter, HIGHFIELD Ocean Master HYP with 50HP HONDA too big & heavy, I bought 3.5M MAXXON in NEW ZEALAND. Tubes way to small and constantly wet butt (I had a female friend visiting and she was not happy) & groceries. Then got a 3.50M SMART WAVE 3500 hard dinghy (unsinkable & dry butt 😊) but very, very heavy – dumb decision and luckily this developed a leak and I was able to return while I ordered the OCT. However, there was a delay in shipping the OCT to NOUMEA (Not OCT fault) so diverted to PORT VILA VANUATU but I was leaving for VANUATU and needed a dinghy for 4 or 5 weeks and got a HIGHFIELD (attached picture). As from May 2019 had the OCT and very, very happy.

 

Heinz,

 

Yep long order time – that was one of the problems. I ordered in December 2018 for delivery in March 2019 and finally got it in VANUATU in May 2019 but 2 months delay were due to shipping problems caused by a friend of mine as we originally were going to ship to NOUMEA NEW CAL in one of his containers and that didn’t work out as planned.

 

Nick,

 

Pls see attached 2 pictures; You can order from OCT a very, very sturdy “rub rail”; no problem at all banging the hull or other boats.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54, 2009 #128

October 9, 2020 12:57:55

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of heinz@... via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 02:08
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

 

Hello 

I have tried to get an Oct in New Zealand one in the Aprill. You need about 2 to 3 months for an order. That was a pity because I could not wait that long. 

But I do not know what the situation is like today. All the people I spoke to were very enthusiastic. 

 

In March there where 4 yachts with such boats in Wangarei. Also the boss of Riverside Drive Marina has one on his motor boat and a Amel 54 from Australia. It is very well padded and very stable. 

I would have liked to buy one despite high price. 

I had a 3 D tender before. Bought in Martinique.  After 2 years no more air in every tupe

 

Some boats are not built for tropical sun and should never be sold there. 

Now I have a Highfeelt.

Cheers 

Heinz

SM2000, 292, Quetzal waiting for getting back to Newzealand. 

 

 

Am 09.10.2020 um 10:26 schrieb Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...>:

Hello Mohammed,

 

You will not be disappointed by OCT.. although my AB 9.5 UL rides a bit softer and is faster ... due in part to the superb 2 str Yamaha 15... 

 

It is very stable and rides nicely.  OCT has a video of a man standing on a gun whale and it has only a slight list.

 

A54 Mari, late model 54, has the 300 and it fits on his aft deck with no issue.  

 

Very intelligent design... IMO!

 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ

 

 

On 9 Oct 2020, at 18:21, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:



 

Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

 

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

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Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099



Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


--

Hello 

Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 

If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 

I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 

But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 

Does anyone know this problem. 

Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 

Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?

I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: Tender Amel 54

Teun BAAS
 

Mohammad, Nick and Heinz,

 

Mohammad,

 

I have not experienced any problems with maneuverability and stability. In fact I perceive the stability to be better than the other dinghies I had with the exception of the huge HIGHFIELD.

I had frequently very rough water in NOUMEA and the ride was fine while keeping the passengers and the groceries much, much drier than the previous dinghies.

 

Since the 3.9Meter, HIGHFIELD Ocean Master HYP with 50HP HONDA too big & heavy, I bought 3.5M MAXXON in NEW ZEALAND. Tubes way to small and constantly wet butt (I had a female friend visiting and she was not happy) & groceries. Then got a 3.50M SMART WAVE 3500 hard dinghy (unsinkable & dry butt 😊) but very, very heavy – dumb decision and luckily this developed a leak and I was able to return while I ordered the OCT. However, there was a delay in shipping the OCT to NOUMEA (Not OCT fault) so diverted to PORT VILA VANUATU but I was leaving for VANUATU and needed a dinghy for 4 or 5 weeks and got a HIGHFIELD (attached picture). As from May 2019 had the OCT and very, very happy.

 

Heinz,

 

Yep long order time – that was one of the problems. I ordered in December 2018 for delivery in March 2019 and finally got it in VANUATU in May 2019 but 2 months delay were due to shipping problems caused by a friend of mine as we originally were going to ship to NOUMEA NEW CAL in one of his containers and that didn’t work out as planned.

 

Nick,

 

Pls see attached 2 pictures; You can order from OCT a very, very sturdy “rub rail”; no problem at all banging the hull or other boats.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54, 2009 #128

October 9, 2020 12:57:55

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of heinz@... via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 02:08
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

 

Hello 

I have tried to get an Oct in New Zealand one in the Aprill. You need about 2 to 3 months for an order. That was a pity because I could not wait that long. 

But I do not know what the situation is like today. All the people I spoke to were very enthusiastic. 

 

In March there where 4 yachts with such boats in Wangarei. Also the boss of Riverside Drive Marina has one on his motor boat and a Amel 54 from Australia. It is very well padded and very stable. 

I would have liked to buy one despite high price. 

I had a 3 D tender before. Bought in Martinique.  After 2 years no more air in every tupe

 

Some boats are not built for tropical sun and should never be sold there. 

Now I have a Highfeelt.

Cheers 

Heinz

SM2000, 292, Quetzal waiting for getting back to Newzealand. 

 



Am 09.10.2020 um 10:26 schrieb Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...>:

Hello Mohammed,

 

You will not be disappointed by OCT.. although my AB 9.5 UL rides a bit softer and is faster ... due in part to the superb 2 str Yamaha 15... 

 

It is very stable and rides nicely.  OCT has a video of a man standing on a gun whale and it has only a slight list.

 

A54 Mari, late model 54, has the 300 and it fits on his aft deck with no issue.  

 

Very intelligent design... IMO!

 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ

 



On 9 Oct 2020, at 18:21, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:



Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

 

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

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Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099



Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


--

Hello 

Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 

If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 

I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 

But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 

Does anyone know this problem. 

Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 

Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?

I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


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Re: Tender Amel 54

heinz@quetzal.berlin
 


Hello 
I have tried to get an Oct in New Zealand one in the Aprill. You need about 2 to 3 months for an order. That was a pity because I could not wait that long. 
But I do not know what the situation is like today. All the people I spoke to were very enthusiastic. 

In March there where 4 yachts with such boats in Wangarei. Also the boss of Riverside Drive Marina has one on his motor boat and a Amel 54 from Australia. It is very well padded and very stable. 
I would have liked to buy one despite high price. 
I had a 3 D tender before. Bought in Martinique.  After 2 years no more air in every tupe
 
Some boats are not built for tropical sun and should never be sold there. 
Now I have a Highfeelt.
Cheers 
Heinz
SM2000, 292, Quetzal waiting for getting back to Newzealand. 


Am 09.10.2020 um 10:26 schrieb Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...>:

Hello Mohammed,

You will not be disappointed by OCT.. although my AB 9.5 UL rides a bit softer and is faster ... due in part to the superb 2 str Yamaha 15... 

It is very stable and rides nicely.  OCT has a video of a man standing on a gun whale and it has only a slight list.

A54 Mari, late model 54, has the 300 and it fits on his aft deck with no issue.  

Very intelligent design... IMO!

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ



On 9 Oct 2020, at 18:21, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:



Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

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Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099



Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


--
Hello 
Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 
If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 
I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 
But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 
Does anyone know this problem. 
Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 
Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?
I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: Tender Amel 54

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello Mohammed,

You will not be disappointed by OCT.. although my AB 9.5 UL rides a bit softer and is faster ... due in part to the superb 2 str Yamaha 15... 

It is very stable and rides nicely.  OCT has a video of a man standing on a gun whale and it has only a slight list.

A54 Mari, late model 54, has the 300 and it fits on his aft deck with no issue.  

Very intelligent design... IMO!

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ



On 9 Oct 2020, at 18:21, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:



Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


Re: Tender Amel 54

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi Teun,

I have also been looking at the OCT website. I have to say it does look great. 

Is there any way that the hard tender, can bang the hull of Amelit? Maybe near the stern? Or when you hoist the OCT?

Kind regards

Nick 

Amelia 54-019 Leros

On 9 Oct 2020, at 06:21, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi Teun;
 
Thanks for the detailed breakdown.
 
A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.
 
What has your experience been regarding these?
 
Happy Sailing;
 
 
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
AMEL 54 #099
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54
 
Mohammad,
 
Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .
 
I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc. 
They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.
 
Advantages:
 
  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion. 
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.
 
Disadvantages:
 
  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???
 
But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.
 
Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.
 
Best Regards Teun
A54 2009 #128
October 6, 2020 10:01:32
 
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54
 
Hi Teun;
 
Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.
 
Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?
 
Respectfully;
 
 
Mohammad Shirloo
+1-323-633-2222  Cell 
+1-424-644-0908  Fax
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54
 
Hi Aty & Mohammad,
 
Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.
 
Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊
 
I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.
Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$
 
 
Best Regards Teun
AMELIT – A54 #128
October 6, 2020 07:12:44
 
 
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54
 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?
Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099 



Re: Tender Amel 54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Teun;

 

Thanks for the detailed breakdown.

 

A few issues that concerns me about the OCT, is the ride in a chop, the stability, low speed maneuverability, due to its flat bottom design. We often go on long excursions with the tender and we do encounter some rough water from time to time.

 

What has your experience been regarding these?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Mohammad,

 

Same here – 2020 completely shot as far as sailing. I wouldn’t be surprised if even Q2 2021 is optimistic for AUSTRALIA as I believe they will first have a 2 or 3 months travel bubble between NZ and OZ before even contemplating opening to the rest of the world. Even when that happens I wouldn’t be surprised travel originating from or coming via USA to be getting “special” attention/rules. .

 

I got the OC350 = 350 centimeters with the Delta panel; ladder; beachmaster wheels (absolutely fantastic); AMEL color coordinated burgundy rub rail; nav lights etc. etc.

They also have a full Carbon version which I did NOT order and I believe, since recently, a sailing dinghy.

 

Advantages:

 

  1. Karin and Russell are SUPER, SUPER, SUPER nice & easy going but highly professional people; a pleasure to work with.
  2. Very high freeboard; meaning ladies (and you) will not have a wet butt on arrival for lunch or dinner in the marina and/or your groceries will remain dry in choppy waters.
  3. Holds a lot of people and cargo
  4. Really planes extremely fast with only 15HP outboard; even with 4 adults on board. In fact OCT strongly discourages any outboard bigger than 15HP.
  5. Weight is only 48kg – was one of the main considerations especially after experiencing problems coming back from a nice & relaxed dinner at night on low tide and having a hard time getting the dinghy back in the water. Especially when you are old, feeble (hahahahaha) & alone or with a female companion.
  6. Lots & lots of (out of sight) storage
  7. Comes standard with 2 seats which also double as PFD’s
  8. Comes standard with 2 paddles; stored out of sight.
  9. Outboard tank and dinghy anchor can be stored (out of sight) in the bow under & around the bow compartment (open net) with a special vertical net to keep it there.
  10. Very effective anti-skid material on the railing, floor, bow etc.
  11. Comes with Dyneema bow & stern hook ups/points custom designed & placed for your davits.
  12. They can make custom adjustments if you require.

 

Disadvantages:

 

  1. Expensive
  2. Waiting time as custom made & to order ONLY. They don’t build “inventory” boats.
  3. Having to ship to your destination – they will handle for you as long as you pay 😊
  4. Did I mention expensive???

 

But absolutely worth it – I think, after having had 4 dinghies within 18 months before the OCT, I am qualified to tell the difference. BTW – the very first dinghy, which was on board when I got the boat, I loved the best as long as I was on anchor but just didn’t make sense to have on the boat during passage: a brand-new (6hrs) old, huge HIGHFIELD center console with 50HP HONDA outboard. Total listed weight 295KG while the davits are rated for 300KG. I suspected the 295KG listed weight for the dinghy to be w/o the 35 liter gas which would have put it well over the rated 300KG for the davits.

 

Check the OCT website and, in case you order, pls say hi to Karin for me.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 6, 2020 10:01:32

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 09:06
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Teun;

 

Nice to hear from you. We’re in the same “boat”. Have not been at the boat since October 2019 and hopeful that 2021 season will not be affected by COVID.

 

Which model of the offshore cruising tender did you end up with and what do you feel are the advantages over the inflatable ones?

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:15 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

Hi Aty & Mohammad,

 

Hope you guys are doing well with this COVID situation – I am not sure when I can get back to the boat in AUSTRALIA but I don’t think it will be before Q2 2021.

 

Although you asked about the HIGHFIELD just wanted to share since I know you appreciate (very) high quality stuff. 😊

 

I had 5 tenders in 18 months – 2 of them were HIGHFIELDS; I will save you the story.

Best dinghy, bar none, is the Offshore Cruising Tenders. They are located in NZ and only custom build. Expensive but, in my opinion, well worth the extra $$$$$

 

https://octenders.co.nz

 

Best Regards Teun

AMELIT – A54 #128

October 6, 2020 07:12:44

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 23:48
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Tender Amel 54

 

We are looking for a new tender, as our existing 12 year old Zodiac Classic foldable with aluminum floor planks that came with our Amel, is starting to have some of the glue joints fail. It has been a great stable ride that planes with a 20HP with 4 people. We have been considering the Highfield line and will not be onboard prior to ordering, Therefore, we would appreciate comments on the following issues:

  1. How does the CL310 or CL340 fit on the Davits?
  2. PVC or Hypalon? We will most likely be in the Med for another 3 years and then onto the Caribbean. AT this point our ongoing plan is to continue sailing West. about 6 months every year.
  3. Our existing 3.5 Meter Zodiac, does present some challenge trying to leave the dock, while Med Moored in a cross wind, if we have yachts at both sides. The tender is about 18-24 inches wider than the stern, therefore the bow on the tender can get caught in the stanchions of the adjacent yacht. In extreme conditions, we lower the tender and tow behind until we are clear of the dock and then bring the tender up on Davits. Does anyone have a better solution?
  4. What is your general impression of the quality, ride and longevity of the highfield line?
  5. What other tender lines have you used that you could recommend?

Thanks in advance for all input.

Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


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For an Amel our Budget is 100’000 Euro.

If you have similar one around 40 Ft please feel free to get in touch with us.

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Re: Sea Chest

 

No, they did not, but I agree that it would be a good idea
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 2:11 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

 

Thanks. I do like the manifold made in Martinique. The only thing I would do differently is instead of the 90° elbow at the end, I would have a removable cap to enable access to the main pipe section for cleaning.

 

Question: Did Amel install a one-way flow valve in this section coming off the vetus strainer? I have one and it seems logical as I would not want water being sucked out of the AC system etc by the engine or generator.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 8:00 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sea Chest

 

Mark,

 

Below will help you understand what Amel originally did on your SM:

image.png

 

This will help you understand generally what Amel does today with PVC manifolds and some other ideas for you:

image.png

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

View My Training Calendar

 

 

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 12:44 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

I am looking for some ideas to redo the sea chest. I am pretty sure the unit I have is not factory since an additional water maker was added by the previous owner. Also, my current unit is polypropylene pipe and I have read about corrosion being an issue on other Amels. So, I have no idea how Amel originally designed this.

 

Coming off the Vetus strainer, I have independent direct connections to the generator and engine. The third goes to a one-way flow valve, a shut-off valve and then to a pipe with outlets for air conditioning, heads/anchor wash, water maker one, and water maker two. There are no independent shut-off valves for each of these four outlets.

I am wondering if anyone has tackled this project and can give me some pointers regarding design and placement.

 

I would like something that is easy to clean and has individual valves for each outlet. Thoughts?

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: BowThruster Microswitches

Doug Smith
 

Thanks Teun and Bill.  I had reached out to Amel, and while waiting a response was also seeing if these were available anywhere else, or directly.  This looks like it is a good option.

 

Doug Smith

S/V Aventura, Amel 54-113

Deltaville, VA USA

 

From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Teun BAAS <teun@...>
Reply-To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 2:46 PM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] BowThruster Microswitches

 

Doug,

 

I got them from AMEL directly.

 

Best Regards Teun

A54 2009 #128

October 7, 2020 11:46:19

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Doug Smith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 11:29
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] BowThruster Microswitches

 

Has anyone been able to find the magnetic microswitches on the bowthruster?  I am attaching a picture of them. 
Made by Shield, FFV 810C6X.

Tough to find someone who will sell them.

 

Doug Smith

S/V Aventura, Amel 54-113

Deltaville, VA USA

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