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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Expected RPM at WOT

Dean Gillies
 

Hi Porter,
This may be nothing, but for completeness I’ll mention it.

You seem to be hitting near max boost rather early, with pressure of 120kPa at 2200 rpm.
On my test with Autoprop, I was between 90/100KPa at 2200 and didn’t hit 120kPa until 2500rpm.
Your test was with fixed prop, and I would expect my pressure would be even lower with a fixed prop.

That’s a significant difference in my book, particularly with a software controlled engine.

For your reference, my no-load (neutral) turbo pressure numbers right now are as follows.

RPM. kPa

1400 0
1600 10
1800 10
2000 10
2200 20
2400 30
2600 30
2800 40
3000 40
3200 50 (WOT)

Can’t have too much data!

Cheers
Dean


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Measuring Volvo TMD-22 oil level

Mark Erdos
 

Ryan and Kelly,

 

On the engine it is designed to give the correct level when the dipstick is fully inserted and pressed down.

 

The opposite is true on the ZF transmission. The correct why to check ATF to not fully reinsert the dipstick but to let it rest without screwing it back in for a correct reading.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 8:08 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Measuring Volvo TMD-22 oil level

 

 

Hi all, silly question here... What is the correct way to take a reading of the oil level in my Volvo TMD-22: do I insert the dip stick fully, or do I just rest it on top of the tube?

 

Thanks,

 

Ryan and Kelly

SM 233 Iteration

Boston, MA, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Expected RPM at WOT

Courtney Gorman
 

Sounds to me that you should just go fast!  LOL 
Sorry for your continued difficulties, just keep enjoying paradise and smile, it makes everything better!  Cheers
Courtney
s/v Trippin'
54 #101 Grenada


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Aug 31, 2018 4:51 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Expected RPM at WOT

 
Dean thank you


The turbo does spin up. More with load of course. I am able to measure pressure. 


1000 rpm temp 78c and 0 kPa quiet
1500 rpm temp 79c and 20 kPa high pitched whir sound bit no vibration
2000 rpm temp 81c and 70 kPa quiet
2200 rpm WOT 84c and 110/120 kPa quiet


Volvo has yet to respond. 

Porter. 
A54-152



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Sent from my IPhone 

On Aug 31, 2018, at 3:16 PM, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Hi Porter,
No question remains in my mind that this is a problem for Volvo.

Re Nick’s observation, does the turbo spin up?
I wonder if the turbo is load controlled or just rpm controlled.
If it operates in concert with load being applied, maybe the fault is still associated with the boost sensor.

I’ll check mine in the morning for comparison.

Cheers
Dean


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Redouan

that sounds like a good solution....

I would be interested in a pair.....

Thanks
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Red1 Stella SM359
 

Hello,

I had the same problem but AnneSofie from Lady Annila has had stainless steel ones made by a SS specialist in Finland that look like they could last a lifetime.  I am in contact with them to get a price and for sure I could get a group order if required once I get mine made.  Bill Kenny and Anne Sofie gave me sketches as I am not on the boat at the moment.

I will test the new one installed and tested in October I hope and revert back.

Regards,

Redouan.
Stella SM349

On 1 Sep 2018, at 09:50, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Bill,

Can you tell us what the price was ?
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Alan Leslie
 

Bill,
Can you tell us what the price was ?
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

greatketch@...
 

Maud just shipped us two pairs of these. I guess she received them from the supplier.

Bill Kinney
SM160,  Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Helm Seat

Alan Leslie
 

Here's another photo of the installation looking down from the companion way. It can be seen that there is room to get around the seat, no problem.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Helm Seat

Alan Leslie
 

It's all here....thus is my seat...I didn't get it from Vetus...but is the same seat


Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Port Vila, Vanuatu


Re: Measuring Volvo TMD-22 oil level

greatketch@...
 

Ryan,

I have always checked mine by inserting it all the way in.  

As far as I can seen, there are no details about how to do this in the manual.  It just seemed the "right" way in the absence of other instructions.  Reinforcing this, is that it reads "full" after I put the specified amount of oil in the crankcase.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Measuring Volvo TMD-22 oil level

Ryan Meador
 

Hi all, silly question here... What is the correct way to take a reading of the oil level in my Volvo TMD-22: do I insert the dip stick fully, or do I just rest it on top of the tube?

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Helm Seat

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Helm Seat

Danny Simms
 



On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 at 11:00, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Alan, what are the overall dimensions. Mine is 480 mm x 480 mm Mine has an alloy hinge, I avoided plastic hinges for security reasons. In a big seaway there will be quite a load on it

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl

On 01 September 2018 at 08:46 "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The seat cushion on our seat measures 420mm across, 440mm front to back.

I think you'll find that most boat seats are in that range or bigger.
They have to be that size otherwise you couldn't sit comfortably on them. 
We are very happy with our seat and have no problems getting past it.
Folded back against the nav table it is a very useful aid in getting wet weather gear on and off, not that we do that very often! 
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Helm Seat

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Alan, what are the overall dimensions. Mine is 480 mm x 480 mm Mine has an alloy hinge, I avoided plastic hinges for security reasons. In a big seaway there will be quite a load on it

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl

On 01 September 2018 at 08:46 "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The seat cushion on our seat measures 420mm across, 440mm front to back.

I think you'll find that most boat seats are in that range or bigger.
They have to be that size otherwise you couldn't sit comfortably on them. 
We are very happy with our seat and have no problems getting past it.
Folded back against the nav table it is a very useful aid in getting wet weather gear on and off, not that we do that very often! 
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan raw water pump

Craig Briggs
 

Like Barnacle Buster, it's phosphoric acid based.  Like Coca-Cola! Phosphoric acid is cheap.
Cheers, Craig SN68


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

Mike Ondra
 

Hello Ryan,

I too am looking for a pair of these pulleys. The note below is what I just received from Maud following my inquiry.

Will be interested in what you find relative to schedule and cost.

Thanks,

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD

 

Good afternoon,

Thank you for your message.

These pulleys are still available but not in stock anymore. The price for 1 pulley is 213.66 euros without taxes and without transport.

I do not have the delivery time for the moment but I know that they have been ordered from the manufacturer.

With my kindest regards,

 

Maud TOUILLET

Service clientèle/Customer service

sav@...

Phone : +33 (0) 546 55 00 75

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 8:46 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

 

 

Hi James,

 

No news yet, our friend is having various printing issues. Will post updates when we have progress!

 

Kelly + Ryan

SM233 Iteration

Boston

 

 

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018, 22:29 James Cromie jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Any luck with your traveller sheave design?  

 

I’m very interested to know!

 

James

Soteria 

SM 347

On Aug 10, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Kelly Ran naryllek@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

Salut,

 

We have the same problem with one of ours.

I modeled the pulley, and we are having a test unit printed out of 316 stainless. (See attached.) My guess is that it will take a couple of iterations to get this part completely right. Will let you know how it turns out.

 

Kelly + Ryan

SM233 Iteration 

Boston

 

 

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 10:58 AM, jlm@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

[Attachment(s) from jlm@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

 

Bonjour,

On my Super Maramu 2000 I have the two pulley cracked ! (they are maked "AMEL")

Amel have no delivery time for this spare part .......

It seams that I am not the only one with this problem ....

Did any one of you solved this without AMEL part ?

Merci

JL MERTZ

Cottonbay.fr

 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Onan Water Pump [1 Attachment]

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

good inormation, I'll check, thanks Thomas!

On Thursday, August 30, 2018, 4:50:04 PM GMT-4, 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 
[Attachment(s) from S/V Garulfo included below]

Hi Alex,

if you register on this cummins website
https://quickserve.cummins.com/ with the s/n of your generator, you can get pdf versions of all relevant documents to your model (parts / installation/ operators's manuals).
You can get the S/N, model and Spec (letter) from the plate at the front of your generator. (the plate also has common part numbers, but not the water pump)

Our generator is 11MDKBN / spec D, and the parts manual shows (p.80) 132-0358 Pump, [raw] water  for spec a-b, and 132-0459 for spec C onwards.
We have been told that 132-0459 replaces old ref 132-0358 , and also that they are interchangeable.  Still investigating...

Soraya
Garulfo A54-122
Curacao

On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 at 10:39, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Mark,
I found the G702 on Amazon and would like to order one as a spare.
However, I need to be sure that pump is the right one for my MDKAW model from 2005. Do all ONAN that we use on our AMELS have the same pump? Where can i  ask/research to be sure in case there are different Sherwood pumps for our ONANS available?
Thans, Alex
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Expected RPM at WOT

Porter McRoberts
 

Dean thank you


The turbo does spin up. More with load of course. I am able to measure pressure. 


1000 rpm temp 78c and 0 kPa quiet

1500 rpm temp 79c and 20 kPa high pitched whir sound bit no vibration

2000 rpm temp 81c and 70 kPa quiet

2200 rpm WOT 84c and 110/120 kPa quiet



Volvo has yet to respond. 


Porter. 

A54-152




Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Aug 31, 2018, at 3:16 PM, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Porter,
No question remains in my mind that this is a problem for Volvo.

Re Nick’s observation, does the turbo spin up?
I wonder if the turbo is load controlled or just rpm controlled.
If it operates in concert with load being applied, maybe the fault is still associated with the boost sensor.

I’ll check mine in the morning for comparison.

Cheers
Dean


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Helm Seat

Alan Leslie
 

The seat cushion on our seat measures 420mm across, 440mm front to back.
I think you'll find that most boat seats are in that range or bigger.
They have to be that size otherwise you couldn't sit comfortably on them. 
We are very happy with our seat and have no problems getting past it.
Folded back against the nav table it is a very useful aid in getting wet weather gear on and off, not that we do that very often! 
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water ingress

karkauai
 

Paul,
I assume it is salt-water?

Bill is right, likely from BT.

Your anchor chain locker drains through the grey water system.  A loose connection at the watertight bulkhead between the head and saloon could leak right there.

You are aware of the red handled shut off valves forward of that bulkhead and aft of the bulkhead between the chain locker and the forward cabin? 

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Aug 30, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Paul, 

Two things:
  1. If you look closely under the shower pan in the forward head, you will see places where water can go when the boat is heeling...it will get trapped there until your next rough passage.
  2. Water passing by the Thruster Tube seal will run downhill to the area outside the head. It's path will dry quickly.
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

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On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 9:36 AM osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello! we find water under the floor board in the passage from main cabin to the front cabin. i.e. outside the forward head. that after being out in larger seas or going up wind. I thought it was the Bow thruster that was leaking. But it is totally dry under the floorboard in the forward cabin, I have a few diapers place each side of the Bowthruster and they are also dry. is there any other place where water can get in under the floor board.

we always close the drain from the forward head so that water geting in the anchor chain well not getting in the the head when leaning to port.  We have a new speed transducer but that is totally dry at least when laying at anchor that is the only source I can t hink of besides the bow thruster.

Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259