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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Does anyone know a supplier of this rub rail on an Amel Mango? [4 Attachments]

Mark Erdos
 

Have you tried Amel?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Does anyone know a supplier of this rub rail on an Amel Mango? [4 Attachments]

 

 

[Attachment(s) from shipbldr2000@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Hello Everyone,

 

My name is Charles Bell. I just purchased an 82 Amel Mango who rub rails had a rough time during the last hurricane. 

 

I have attached some pictures... Can anyone point me to the brand or the supplier of these vinyl rails? 

 

I am having a hard time locating them....

 

Thank you!

 

Charles

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: New Amel Mango owner question #1

Charles Bell
 

Thank you Craig!

Elegant simplicity...

Much exploring to do on this boat...


Re: New Amel Mango owner question #1

Charles Bell
 

Hello Joey,

That makes a lot of sense!

I will give it a try next time I am on the boat.

Thank you for your help!


Charles


Re: New Amel Mango owner question #1

Craig Briggs
 


Hey Charles,
Welcome to the "club".  That scale is the main reason to buy an Amel!  It shows the number of liters in your water tank - the cpvc pipe floats up and you read across from the top of it.
Cheers, Craig SN68

---In amelyachtowners@..., <shipbldr2000@...> wrote :

Hello Everyone,


Can anyone help me to understand what the graduated scale in the attached picture is for? It is located in my Amel mango next to a cpvc pipe that telescopes in and out of a stainless steel tube (mystery #2).


I have attached pictures of what I am trying to identify.



Thank you!


Charles



Re: New Amel Mango owner question #1

Joey Roane
 

Hi Charles,

I believe that is the way you measure the volume of water held in your tank.  When you release the locking mechanism the staff/rod should rise up and indicate on the numeric bar how many liters are currently in your tank.

Best,

Joey


New Amel Mango owner question #1

Charles Bell
 

Hello Everyone,


Can anyone help me to understand what the graduated scale in the attached picture is for? It is located in my Amel mango next to a cpvc pipe that telescopes in and out of a stainless steel tube (mystery #2).


I have attached pictures of what I am trying to identify.



Thank you!


Charles



Does anyone know a supplier of this rub rail on an Amel Mango?

Charles Bell
 

Hello Everyone,


My name is Charles Bell. I just purchased an 82 Amel Mango who rub rails had a rough time during the last hurricane. 


I have attached some pictures... Can anyone point me to the brand or the supplier of these vinyl rails? 


I am having a hard time locating them....


Thank you!


Charles








Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] D3-110I-C Wandering RPM

Porter McRoberts
 

Hello Dean, and hive of cognoscenti.

Please have a look at this video if you’d be so kind:



I started noticing your description several months ago. Pre boost pressure sensor fault, pre long block failure. We hauled out in Martinique in April. Serviced c drive, autoprop etc. I noticed that 2 of the autoprop arms fell with gravity alone. The third needed coaxing from a finger. More grease and it was better but never equivalent to the other 2. Minimal vibration. Hard to know how much vibration is normal as only have had the boat 1.5 years. Never motored on another 54 or SM for that matter. 

So.... after finding sputtering oil from the dipstick confirming to Volvo the Long block was shot we had a new long block installed and engine back in the boat Friday with sea trial last Saturday. While out of the water I sanded and acid washed the prop. Still noted one arm stiffer than the other. But not worse that it had been. 

During the sea-trial we had  Lots of rpm variability such as dean described but even +/-50-100 rpm. But not close to what is seen in the video. Our WOT was held to 2360. CDM/Volvo with their vodia computers hooked to the engine blessed it and said it was good. Hands washed they said the variability had to come from the prop. (I had not disclosed my observations under the hull while out of the water). 

This Last Monday real world test: we set out southwest from Panama City to isla Contadora. RPM wandering was much higher- this is when Video was taken. Wasn’t the most relaxing of trips in addition to being late and arriving in the dark we had an explosion of late afternoon lightning storms with webs of red and blue current above us. 

So we’re at anchor south of Contadora, arrived safely and this am I dove and switched the autoprop to the fixed, spare prop. Thanks Bill Rouse and James Cromie!  

Sea-trial this afternoon. 

I’ll report findings. 

Thanks to everyone!!


Porter/Helen Grace and Lilly. 
Ibis
A54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Aug 29, 2018, at 10:27 AM, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Gang,
I’ve been wondering for most of this summer about the wandering rpm in my D3-110-C motor. I’ve noticed that occasionally the rpm will wander around by 20-40rpm over a period of a second or so. It is obvious to the ear, as well as being shown in the instrument readout, and seems to be particularly prevalent when mooching around in the 1000-1500 rpm range. Haven’t noticed it so much at higher rpm.

I also don’t recall hearing it last year, but we were pretty overloaded with new stuff last year, it’s possible I just didn’t notice it.

Since I’ve now installed a new gearbox, I’ve kind of eliminated any issues on that front (ie pressure drops/shaft brake application)

This year I changed from the original fixed prop to an Autoprop, which is also a new piece of kit to me. Could this be related to the autoprop blades doing something erratic and momentarily loading up the motor?

Do others observe this behaviour? I guess with the trials and tribulations that Porter has gone through this year with his D3-110 we are all paying a bit more attention to this troublesome power plant.

Many thanks
Dean
SY Stella
Amel 54#154


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Question about the refrigiration system on an A54

 

Thomas, 

That result aligns perfectly with what I was told. The blue box device will sense the voltage needed and deliver either 24 or 12VDC.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 5:19 PM 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,

As promised, my feedback:

I measured 23.5V at the poles for the water pump on the pump controller. Got puzzled again as it’s meant to be for a 12V pump. Talked to Veco who told me i should measure with the pump connected and running. At which point i measured 13.5V.


Best,

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Curaçao 



On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 05:23, Nick ngtnewington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Apologies you are right. I just measured 13.5v at the circulating pump. Not sure how I got that wrong, anyway. So they need to be 12v pumps for sure.


Nick 

Amelia (54)


On 7 Aug 2018, at 02:28, arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Today I measured the voltage directly across the circulation pump for the fridges and it measures 12.5 Volts when one or more fridges are running/cooling. That makes sense as the pump is 12 Volt.

Frigoboat does tell you to use a voltage divider in case you have a single  compressor setup and a 24 volt system. They even sell a device for this. But when you use the multi-compressor pump switch the divider is apparently build into the switch already.

So I dont' think the original Frigoboat pump can/should be used at 24 Volt. It's likely to burn up very quickly.

Cheers,

Arno


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: TMD22 Exhaust muffler

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Terry,

JB Weld might be a good temporary fix, but I suspect you are correct regarding the tip of the iceberg. We have #72 SM, and finally replaced our stainless muffler a little over a year ago with a Vetus model in St Maarten. 

About a year prior to replacement, I notice the first leaks coming from the bottom of the muffler. At that time, we took it off, and had it welded in Grenada. That was the end of leaks for a few months, and then we found more leaks in new places. The muffler was rusting from the inside out, and it was obvious we would need a replacement. In St Maarten, we took it to a big welding/fabricating shop that all the boaters use. It was going to be very expensive to make, and the shop claimed stainless was not a great material for the job, and really did not want to make me one. We finally found a Vetus Type NLP muffler locally, and were  able to fit it neatly in the old spot. The NLP is round, and a bit tall, but has a securing spring clamp which allowed me to bolt it nicely to the engine frame. It is available to fit multiple size exhaust hoses, so measure your hose, and buy the correct size for your application. If I remember correctly I had 3”/76mm hose. The only big downside is that I can’t step on it like the stainless muffler. 

There are some places in the US that can make you a custom fiberglass muffler, and had I had the time, may of chosen that option to keep it close to original shape and size while retaining the ability to use it as a step. If you go that route, let me know, and I may order one with you. 

Good luck on getting it sorted out. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Ko Olina, Hawaii

On Aug 29, 2018, at 05:42, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Yes, I was concerned about that too, Terry, especially with the ss water tank where there were several pinholes in one area and seemingly expanding (where an old heating element had broken off inside and lain on the bottom for a couple of years). I just put the J-B over the entire area and crossed my fingers - it worked! Similar concern and treatment on the engine and so far so good. Was going to replace the part but on my engine it's MD (discontinued) and the J-B fix has been as good as new.


If it doesn't work it's likely not a catastrophic failure, just another drip that can  be managed rather easily.

fwiw, Craig





---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Thanks Craig, I have JB Weld on board! 
Wondering if 1 pin hole is the tip of the iceberg?

Terry.

SV Libby

SM#196

Maple Bay, BC



Re: TMD22 Exhaust muffler

Craig Briggs
 

Yes, I was concerned about that too, Terry, especially with the ss water tank where there were several pinholes in one area and seemingly expanding (where an old heating element had broken off inside and lain on the bottom for a couple of years). I just put the J-B over the entire area and crossed my fingers - it worked! Similar concern and treatment on the engine and so far so good. Was going to replace the part but on my engine it's MD (discontinued) and the J-B fix has been as good as new.

If it doesn't work it's likely not a catastrophic failure, just another drip that can  be managed rather easily.

fwiw, Craig





---In amelyachtowners@..., <singh_terence@...> wrote :

Thanks Craig, I have JB Weld on board! 
Wondering if 1 pin hole is the tip of the iceberg?

Terry.

SV Libby

SM#196

Maple Bay, BC



D3-110I-C Wandering RPM

Dean Gillies
 

Hi Gang,
I’ve been wondering for most of this summer about the wandering rpm in my D3-110-C motor. I’ve noticed that occasionally the rpm will wander around by 20-40rpm over a period of a second or so. It is obvious to the ear, as well as being shown in the instrument readout, and seems to be particularly prevalent when mooching around in the 1000-1500 rpm range. Haven’t noticed it so much at higher rpm.

I also don’t recall hearing it last year, but we were pretty overloaded with new stuff last year, it’s possible I just didn’t notice it.

Since I’ve now installed a new gearbox, I’ve kind of eliminated any issues on that front (ie pressure drops/shaft brake application)

This year I changed from the original fixed prop to an Autoprop, which is also a new piece of kit to me. Could this be related to the autoprop blades doing something erratic and momentarily loading up the motor?

Do others observe this behaviour? I guess with the trials and tribulations that Porter has gone through this year with his D3-110 we are all paying a bit more attention to this troublesome power plant.

Many thanks
Dean
SY Stella
Amel 54#154


Re: Super Maramu keel bolts size

mfmcgovern@...
 

Alin,

Can you share the answer that you received here in this thread?  That way if someone in the future searches for the answer on this forum they will be able to find it.

Thanks,
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: TMD22 Exhaust muffler

Terence Singh
 

Thanks Craig, I have JB Weld on board! 
Wondering if 1 pin hole is the tip of the iceberg?

Terry.

SV Libby

SM#196

Maple Bay, BC



Re: TMD22 Exhaust muffler

Craig Briggs
 

A patch with J-B Weld could well last another 21 years. The one on my engine is at the 15 year mark and still perfect.  The one on my hot water tank pin holes is at 8 years. 
Cheers, Craig SN68


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Question about the refrigiration system on an A54

Porter McRoberts
 

That’s very curious. 
I’ve been wondering the same. Similar issues and replacement was with a 12v pump. 24v light is on. Been working fine and continually for 4 months now. 

Cold beer!

Porter
A54-152


Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Aug 28, 2018, at 5:19 PM, 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

As promised, my feedback:

I measured 23.5V at the poles for the water pump on the pump controller. Got puzzled again as it’s meant to be for a 12V pump. Talked to Veco who told me i should measure with the pump connected and running. At which point i measured 13.5V.


Best,

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Curaçao 



On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 at 05:23, Nick ngtnewington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Apologies you are right. I just measured 13.5v at the circulating pump. Not sure how I got that wrong, anyway. So they need to be 12v pumps for sure.


Nick 

Amelia (54)


On 7 Aug 2018, at 02:28, arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Today I measured the voltage directly across the circulation pump for the fridges and it measures 12.5 Volts when one or more fridges are running/cooling. That makes sense as the pump is 12 Volt.

Frigoboat does tell you to use a voltage divider in case you have a single  compressor setup and a 24 volt system. They even sell a device for this. But when you use the multi-compressor pump switch the divider is apparently build into the switch already.

So I dont' think the original Frigoboat pump can/should be used at 24 Volt. It's likely to burn up very quickly.

Cheers,

Arno


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Pole Lengths

karkauai
 

Hi Bill,
Kristy is1999 SM 2K #243. She has the pin on the stanchion and therefore the shorter poles.  If a 1996 has the longer ones and 1999 has shorter ones, maybe the change happened with the 2K version?

I have a 135% Genoa that reaches to about 4 feet from the end of the pole.  It has a higher cut clew than the original sail, I think.
Kent


On Aug 29, 2018, at 3:34 AM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,


We're parked next to a 1996 Super Maramu and his poles are over the gunwale, he doesn't have a fitting on the stanchion like we do...so our poles (2004) are as you say about 50 cm shorter than his.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Baie de Ravolieu, Vanuatu


TMD22 Exhaust muffler

Terence Singh
 

I did a quick inspection of Libby's mechanical systems after our last trip.

I noted that there was a small pool of salt underneath the stainless steel muffler box for the main engine.

On closer inspection there is a small hole on the side wall of the muffler that is leaking.

After 21 years of service, it is probably time to replace this muffler.

Has anyone already done this?

Does this have to be purchased from Amel or fabricated locally?

Does anyone have the specifications and drawings that can be fabricated to?

Picture of the muffler is attached.


Thanks in advance.


SV Libby

SM#196

Maple Bay, BC





Re: Installing diesel heating on a Super Maramu

Terence Singh
 

Thanks once again for the detailed description of the instal o Peregrinus!
Libby was one of those SM's that did not have the forced air option much to my wife's dismay.
Looks like Hydronic is our option.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu keel bolts size

Alin SM 283
 

Thank you Eric. 


On Wed, 29 Aug 2018 at 22:05, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 


I am sure Olivier will be able to answer your question
Fair winds,
Eric
SM 376 Kimberlite

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 04:28 AM, Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Oliver doesn't work at Amel anymore and has probably not access to theire files. 
Contact Maude at sav@... instead.

/Annsofie

Skickat från min iPad

28 aug. 2018 kl. 09:20 skrev Alin Misescu alin1923@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi.

I sent a separate email to Olivier.  I hoped that there is someone that would know this.
Thank you.
Alin


On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 20:08, Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners]
 

Have you asked Amel about that? That is the only way, I think, to get an absolute correct answer.

/Annsofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM 232, 1998

Skickat från min iPad

27 aug. 2018 kl. 21:35 skrev alin1923@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hello everyone. My boat, Wanderer, SM #283 undergoes extensive upgrading and maintenance in NZ. She will be a skippered charter in Bay of Islands. As part of the process , my surveyor wants to check keel bolts. I found an option to ultrasound them, but they were asking for all the keel bolts size and specs of material. Can someone please help me with this? I need to know diameter, length and material specs ( what sort of SS). Thank you. All the best from Alin, Wanderer SM2k#283