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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Shimming the Onan Genset Tray

 

Gary,

Interesting, because I believe the Onan on SM #387 tilted slightly inboard. At least any spilled fluid would move inboard. This makes me wonder if maybe the pan might be slightly concave causing spills origination "inboard" to move inboard, and outboard spills to move outboard.

Where did you mount the level? 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 9:47 AM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Hi All:


I don't know about you but one of the things that I believe Amel got wrong was the level of the shelf that the Onan Genset sits on.  It slants outboard and all the Amel SMs that I have visited share this same issue.  Thus any oil/fuel/water leaks or drainage flows outboard and usually aft where it pools and causes corrosion and a gooey mess.


 Working by myself, using lifting airbags, shims and 2x4 levers and blocking I was able to raise the genset about 5 inches with only removing the exhaust hose. I then  removed the outboard rubber shock mounts, install 3/4 inch HDPE (high density polyethylene) shims on the lower part of the out board shock mounts, and lower the 900 lb genset back down.  It was a big job and took me the better part of 3 days.  This gives me level 1/4 bubble of drainage inboard.  


Olivier Beaute, Bill Rouse or anyone else with knowledge on this;  is there a reason the genset doesn't sit level or lean slightly inboard for drainage?  Was this just an oversight by Amel?  By mostly leveling the genset is there anything from the engineering standpoint that I haven't considered that would be a problem?  If the boat should broach or roll, would the rubber shock/vibration mounts be strong enough to prevent the genset from breaking free of it's mounts?


Sincerely, 


Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona

Amel SM 2000 #335

Island Marine Yard, Puerto Del Rey Marina, Fajardo, Pureto Rico









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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wood trim around Vee berth windows

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 

Kent, 
As I recall you've got a FEIN Multitool - there's some flat saw blades for it and a "window cutter" that could just do the trick.
Craig


---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote :

Thanks Craig.  I’ve been trying that with little success so far. I’ll keep plugging away.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

Re: Sonic Speed transducer repair/replacement - how?

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Jose,

there has been two kinds of Sonic Speed sensors used by AMEL. The first ones (until around 1995) were glassed in the hull/keel stub and impossible to replace without digging and re-glassing.
The second type called "en ligne" which means "lined up", is installed in a GRP tube glassed in the hull/keel stub, including two O-rings.

You have the second type. I called POCHON (the electronics supplier for AMEL for more than 30years) today and they have a pair available.
You may get in touch with Stephane at stephane at pochon dot com.

Olivier

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wood trim around Vee berth windows

karkauai
 

Thanks Craig.  I’ve been trying that with little success so far. I’ll keep plugging away.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

Shimming the Onan Genset Tray

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi All:


I don't know about you but one of the things that I believe Amel got wrong was the level of the shelf that the Onan Genset sits on.  It slants outboard and all the Amel SMs that I have visited share this same issue.  Thus any oil/fuel/water leaks or drainage flows outboard and usually aft where it pools and causes corrosion and a gooey mess.


 Working by myself, using lifting airbags, shims and 2x4 levers and blocking I was able to raise the genset about 5 inches with only removing the exhaust hose. I then  removed the outboard rubber shock mounts, install 3/4 inch HDPE (high density polyethylene) shims on the lower part of the out board shock mounts, and lower the 900 lb genset back down.  It was a big job and took me the better part of 3 days.  This gives me level 1/4 bubble of drainage inboard.  


Olivier Beaute, Bill Rouse or anyone else with knowledge on this;  is there a reason the genset doesn't sit level or lean slightly inboard for drainage?  Was this just an oversight by Amel?  By mostly leveling the genset is there anything from the engineering standpoint that I haven't considered that would be a problem?  If the boat should broach or roll, would the rubber shock/vibration mounts be strong enough to prevent the genset from breaking free of it's mounts?


Sincerely, 


Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona

Amel SM 2000 #335

Island Marine Yard, Puerto Del Rey Marina, Fajardo, Pureto Rico






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gulf Stream

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

Miles,

I owe you a navigators secret decoder ring.

Ric

Bali Hai SN24

Annapolis

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:39 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gulf Stream

 

 

Hi Ric,

 

http;//fermi.jhuapl.edu/avhrr/gs/averages works if you take the period off the end!  Thank you.  I had not known about this one.  The single satellite pass picture gives a truly graphic overview and I think more detail than the ones I have been using (such as Passage Weather).  In about two weeks I will let you know if it added useful information.

 

http;//fermi.jhuapl.edu/avhrr/gs/averages

 

Regards,

 

Miles

s/y Ladybug, sm216  Le Marin, Martinique

Re: Gulf Stream

Miles
 

Hi Ric,

 

http;//fermi.jhuapl.edu/avhrr/gs/averages works if you take the period off the end!  Thank you.  I had not known about this one.  The single satellite pass picture gives a truly graphic overview and I think more detail than the ones I have been using (such as Passage Weather).  In about two weeks I will let you know if it added useful information.

 

http;//fermi.jhuapl.edu/avhrr/gs/averages

 

Regards,

 

Miles

s/y Ladybug, sm216  Le Marin, Martinique

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wood trim around Vee berth windows

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 

Hi Kent,
Ours are simply held up by the screws going up through the frame, not by any fasteners coming down. Doubt yours are different. If you've got all the screws out and it doesn't fall free, maybe it's some adhesive from the vinyl "piping" trim and you could free it with a putty knife all around. 

I definitely wouldn't try to re-varnish them in place as, if it's like ours, there's UV damage such that you'll want to sand the inner side of the top edges and, perhaps, re-stain the wood where it's sun-bleached to get a good color match. Easy job if it's removed.

Craig, SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote :

Hi Danny,

I suppose I could, but it’d be difficult to do a nice job on the top and aft end...and potentially messy. If I cant figure out how to get them off, I guess that’s what I’ll have to do.

It doesn’t seem likely that Amel would build something that couldn’t be disassembled.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Kent

karkauai
 

I couldn’t do it with my iPhone from the site itself.  If you reply to an email notification, you can insert a photo as you would in any other email.

Kent 
S/V Kristy

Hi Kent,

How do you include photos in the text on this site?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wood trim around Vee berth windows

karkauai
 

Hi Danny,

I suppose I could, but it’d be difficult to do a nice job on the top and aft end...and potentially messy. If I cant figure out how to get them off, I guess that’s what I’ll have to do.

It doesn’t seem likely that Amel would build something that couldn’t be disassembled.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: LEWMAR AA500C Anchor rode counter and windlass control

Bob Grey
 

Alex, whom mine died it was the sensor that detects the magnet, replaced that and voila working again.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Thursday, May 24, 2018, 00:16, robin6658@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

I had the same problem and put a new Quick in - does the same job for approx. 30 % less.


fair winds
Robin

Amel 54 #54
Carré d‘As
Mallorca

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] LEWMAR AA500C Anchor rode counter and windlass control

robin hutter
 

it‘s the ine sold by quick (svb.de about 320 €) and it fit but we had to enlarge the hole in the cockpit (Lewmar was 3 little holes - Quick is one big hole - sensor did fit after a bit of fiddeling - was not a difficult job.

fair winds

Robin
Amel 54
Carré d‘As


Kent

eric freedman
 

Hi Kent,

How do you include photos in the text on this site?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 6:40 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wood trim around Vee berth windows [1 Attachment]

 

 

[Attachment(s) from Kent Robertson included below]

Here’s a pic of the wood panel in question:

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

SM243

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wood trim around Vee berth windows

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Kent. Why don't you varnish them in place. 

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl


On 24 May 2018 at 10:36 "karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Here I am...again!
I’m going to wait on the cabintop hatches until I can get some help.. Regluing the headliner seems like more than I want to tackle.

Sooo, I’m on to my next project. I want to remove and revarnish (I think it originally had a clear spar urethane, anyone know for sure?) all the wood trim around the hatches and port lites. It has held up well for nearly 20 years, but now the sun has taken it’s toll.

Jeez, nothing’s ever as easy as it seems it should be, is it?
Or is it just me? I guess it’d be easier if I knew how things were put together originally.

Started in the Vee berth, removed the small trim above and below the port lite. There are through bolts around the portlite and wood screws that go through the stainless trim outside and into the back (outboard) side of the larger panel around the portlite. I’ve removed them and the panel is still stuck fast around the portlite. Has anyone removed/revarnished these panels? Is there something else besides sealant holding them?

As usual, thank you for any insight, suggestions, duhs, or encouragement.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
St Michaels MD.


 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed transducer repair/replacement - how?

 

Jose, 

I have not done this job, but I believe all the SMs have straight sensors. Let me know. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Wed, May 23, 2018, 18:42 jvenegas@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you, Ian and Bill, for the info.

Now I need to find out if the sensors I bought are the ones on my boat (the cable coming out straight vs at an angle which is what I was sold.  I hope it is straight because it sounds a lot easier to replace.  If it is with the cable on the side, I don't know how easy it is going to be to extract them, and worse, to mount them properly allingned

Jose

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wood trim around Vee berth windows

karkauai
 

Here’s a pic of the wood panel in question:


Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

Wood trim around Vee berth windows

karkauai
 

Here I am...again!
I’m going to wait on the cabintop hatches until I can get some help. Regluing the headliner seems like more than I want to tackle.

Sooo, I’m on to my next project. I want to remove and revarnish (I think it originally had a clear spar urethane, anyone know for sure?) all the wood trim around the hatches and port lites. It has held up well for nearly 20 years, but now the sun has taken it’s toll.

Jeez, nothing’s ever as easy as it seems it should be, is it?
Or is it just me? I guess it’d be easier if I knew how things were put together originally.

Started in the Vee berth, removed the small trim above and below the port lite. There are through bolts around the portlite and wood screws that go through the stainless trim outside and into the back (outboard) side of the larger panel around the portlite. I’ve removed them and the panel is still stuck fast around the portlite. Has anyone removed/revarnished these panels? Is there something else besides sealant holding them?

As usual, thank you for any insight, suggestions, duhs, or encouragement.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
St Michaels MD.

Re: Sonic Speed transducer repair/replacement - how?

Jose Venegas
 

Oliver, 

Can you let me know which type of sensor was fitted to my SM200 # 278  ?

Jose
Ipanema SM 2K  #278
Boston MA










Re: Sonic Speed transducer repair/replacement - how?

Jose Venegas
 

Hi, Trevor,  
Too bad I had ordered the transducers without specifying the type.  I still need to know which one is in my boat SM 278, which seems to be just about the time the straight sensors were introduced.
Jose

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sonic Speed transducer repair/replacement - how?

Jose Venegas
 

Thank you, Ian and Bill, for the info.
Now I need to find out if the sensors I bought are the ones on my boat (the cable coming out straight vs at an angle which is what I was sold.  I hope it is straight because it sounds a lot easier to replace.  If it is with the cable on the side, I don't know how easy it is going to be to extract them, and worse, to mount them properly allingned

Jose