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Re: vetus coupling removal

eric freedman
 

I forgot to mention,

I just replaced my engine with the new model of the 4JH3 with a 4jh4.

The disk came off easily after having it machined 4 years ago.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 4:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] vetus coupling removal

 

Hi Amelias and Eric

 

I tried to remove the Vetus coupling from the shaft and I was not able to remove it even not with a strong puller and heat.

Maybe someone out there has another great Idea?

 

@Eric, is saw in an old treat from 2019 you did it by pushing with screws/bolts from the back but I cannot undo the existing screw’s. I suppose you saw it away and used new 10mm bolts for the tool.

 

I’ll make some photos when I’m done and send it to the forum.

 

Thanks for advice and best regards

 

Ruedi Waldispuehl

"SY WASABI"

Amel 54. #55

 

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2019 um 17:11
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] vetus coupling removal

 

Hi,

Here is the photo. Once you have it apart have a machine shop open up the hole a few thousands of an inch.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Herbert Lackner
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 11:09 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] vetus coupling removal

 

today I tried to align the engine and the c-drive. unfortunately I was not able to remove the vetus coupling from the shaft, tried it also with a puller but without success.  Are there any tricks, special tools,... how this can be done? I remember Eric uploaded a foto showing the tool he made for that, but could not find it. any help welcome

herbert, SN120, kali mera, Mazatlan


Re: vetus coupling removal

eric freedman
 

Hi Ruedi,

Yes, you must cut the existing bolts.

You use threaded rod and nylocks to replace the bolts.

When you have the disk off , have a machine shop cut a few thousands of an inch off  the interior of the dick mounting hole.

I hope these pictures help.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2021 4:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] vetus coupling removal

 

Hi Amelias and Eric

 

I tried to remove the Vetus coupling from the shaft and I was not able to remove it even not with a strong puller and heat.

Maybe someone out there has another great Idea?

 

@Eric, is saw in an old treat from 2019 you did it by pushing with screws/bolts from the back but I cannot undo the existing screw’s. I suppose you saw it away and used new 10mm bolts for the tool.

 

I’ll make some photos when I’m done and send it to the forum.

 

Thanks for advice and best regards

 

Ruedi Waldispuehl

"SY WASABI"

Amel 54. #55

 

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2019 um 17:11
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] vetus coupling removal

 

Hi,

Here is the photo. Once you have it apart have a machine shop open up the hole a few thousands of an inch.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Herbert Lackner
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 11:09 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] vetus coupling removal

 

today I tried to align the engine and the c-drive. unfortunately I was not able to remove the vetus coupling from the shaft, tried it also with a puller but without success.  Are there any tricks, special tools,... how this can be done? I remember Eric uploaded a foto showing the tool he made for that, but could not find it. any help welcome

herbert, SN120, kali mera, Mazatlan


Re: vetus coupling removal

Ian Park
 

Herbert

Well done! Mine took me a few hours too. I used a chisel and hammer after soaking in Corrosion X (on the advice of Craig). Heating with a blow torch was the secret.
I used the tool, but the connection from my gearbox is a spider (four arms) rather than a circular plate, so using feeler gauges was a little more tricky than when the gearbox is fitted with a circular plate. I got a short piece of 35mm tubing which fits inside the Amel tool and slides along as an extension to the drive shaft. You can then slide this tube up to the centre of the Gearbox to get the direct line of the 35mm shaft.

After this my engine still vibrated at the C Drive end. I’ve just replaced the rubber tube on the C Drive foot bolt which was quite worn. Easy Job. Will know on re- launch next week what difference that has made.

Best Wishes

Ian

'Ocean Hobo’ SN 96


Re: vetus coupling removal

Herbert Lackner
 

Hi Ruedi,

heating, spraying, puller, nothing worked.

I remember it took 5 hours using a heavy hammer and a piece of wood:  tapping, hammering, then brute force ...

fair winds, herbert
SN 120 KALI MERA


Re: vetus coupling removal

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi Amelias and Eric

 

I tried to remove the Vetus coupling from the shaft and I was not able to remove it even not with a strong puller and heat.

Maybe someone out there has another great Idea?

 

@Eric, is saw in an old treat from 2019 you did it by pushing with screws/bolts from the back but I cannot undo the existing screw’s. I suppose you saw it away and used new 10mm bolts for the tool.

 

I’ll make some photos when I’m done and send it to the forum.

 

Thanks for advice and best regards

 

Ruedi Waldispuehl

"SY WASABI"

Amel 54. #55

 

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Donnerstag, 12. Dezember 2019 um 17:11
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] vetus coupling removal

 

Hi,

Here is the photo. Once you have it apart have a machine shop open up the hole a few thousands of an inch.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Herbert Lackner
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 11:09 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] vetus coupling removal

 

today I tried to align the engine and the c-drive. unfortunately I was not able to remove the vetus coupling from the shaft, tried it also with a puller but without success.  Are there any tricks, special tools,... how this can be done? I remember Eric uploaded a foto showing the tool he made for that, but could not find it. any help welcome

herbert, SN120, kali mera, Mazatlan


Re: Climma work in New York area?

eric freedman
 

Craig,

I hope you received my email.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Craig Briggs via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2021 12:17 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Climma work in New York area?

 

Hi Eric,
We're headed to eastern LI - could you send me contact info for your A/C /Espar genius, please? May need some assistance reinstalling & diagnosing mine.
You can pm to sangaris at aol dot com.
Thanks
Craig
--
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Deck hatch dogs reinforcements

Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
 

Hello David,

Aquarius had these hatch protectors on the aft lazaret when I bought Aquarius, but then I put some similar protectors on all the lazarets.  Several photos to look at.  I had them made in New Zealand from 316 stainless.    I like the why the previous owner had them installed, but could not get the guys who installed the protectors in Thailand to do the same.  But, after it was done, it looking pretty good.  

Aquarius SM2K#262
Ken Powers
On Aquarius in Thailand....


Re: Climma work in New York area?

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Eric,
We're headed to eastern LI - could you send me contact info for your A/C /Espar genius, please? May need some assistance reinstalling & diagnosing mine.
You can pm to sangaris at aol dot com.
Thanks
Craig
--
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Isolation of hull inside Amel54 or AmelSM - and hatches etc.

Peter Forbes
 

Good morning Carina,

Long time since we net in St Lucia!

Were the two webasto heaters installed when you bought your 54 or did you fit them? Can you send me a photograph of what they look like?

I would love to retrofit eberspacher or webasto but am afraid of the cost.

Best wishes

Peter

Peter Forbes
Carango Amel 54 #035 
La Rochelle
00447836 209730

On 5 May 2021, at 04:35, CARINA HAMMARLUND <syultimo@...> wrote:



Hi Alexander,
We just lived our second winter on the boat in Sweden, without any major problems. We have two webasto heaters, one just for the after cabin and one for the rest of the boat. We do experienced some condensation but we open up the floor hatches now and then when we leave the boat for a couple of hours to let the air flow. 

we also pulled out the madras a couple of centimeters in the guest cabin so it’s not tight to the hull. 

A dehumidifier is a great help to keep the condensation in control.
this winter we experienced -22 C for about ten days without feeling cold inside, the heaters really makes it cozy.

in summer this is not a problem at all...

welcome up north!
--
Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165


Re: Isolation of hull inside Amel54 or AmelSM - and hatches etc.

CARINA HAMMARLUND
 

Hi Alexander,
We just lived our second winter on the boat in Sweden, without any major problems. We have two webasto heaters, one just for the after cabin and one for the rest of the boat. We do experienced some condensation but we open up the floor hatches now and then when we leave the boat for a couple of hours to let the air flow. 

we also pulled out the madras a couple of centimeters in the guest cabin so it’s not tight to the hull. 

A dehumidifier is a great help to keep the condensation in control.
this winter we experienced -22 C for about ten days without feeling cold inside, the heaters really makes it cozy.

in summer this is not a problem at all...

welcome up north!
--
Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165


Re: Climma work in New York area?

eric freedman
 

Hi Billy, I have an air conditioning genius that works here on eastern Long Island . He also installs Espar heaters. He is installing one on my friend’s 54 as I write. Where are you located?

Climma parts are available from Coastal Climate Control 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

https://www.coastalclimatecontrol.com/

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Billy Newport
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2021 4:43 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Climma work in New York area?

 

My climma did cool the boat on delivery in June and wouldn't heat it in the winter and now won't cool it today. Does anyone know someone in the new york area (ish) who can work on these. The yard I'm at now won't touch climma as his guy can't get parts.

Any help appreciated
Billy (Amel 55#56).


Re: Climma work in New York area?

 

Normally, meaning before COVID, you could get a good answer regarding who to use from either info@... or customerservice@...

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 3:42 PM Billy Newport <billy@...> wrote:
My climma did cool the boat on delivery in June and wouldn't heat it in the winter and now won't cool it today. Does anyone know someone in the new york area (ish) who can work on these. The yard I'm at now won't touch climma as his guy can't get parts.

Any help appreciated
Billy (Amel 55#56).


Climma work in New York area?

Billy Newport
 

My climma did cool the boat on delivery in June and wouldn't heat it in the winter and now won't cool it today. Does anyone know someone in the new york area (ish) who can work on these. The yard I'm at now won't touch climma as his guy can't get parts.

Any help appreciated
Billy (Amel 55#56).


Re: Isolation of hull inside Amel54 or AmelSM - and hatches etc.

Ian Park
 

Alexander,
We've cruised the Mediterranean, Caribbean and the Baltic and Scotland in our Santorin. We live in North Wales where we keep the boat at present.
The Eberspacher keeps the boat warm enough and the aft cabin is no colder than anywhere else. Amels are particularly well insulated on the deck and keep the heat in well. Condensation is an issue from hatches and anywhere on the sides of the hull. We have insulated our wardrobes to stop clothes getting damp and mouldy.
A dehumidifier is the best friend in keeping the boat dry.
We find the aft cabin pretty cosy. But in cold climates get an electric blanket for all the bunks. They use very few amps and are a real boon.

Ian
'Ocean Hobo' SN 96


Re: Isolation of hull inside Amel54 or AmelSM - and hatches etc.

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Alexander,

 We spent three seasons in Chile, including two based in the Beagle channel. We didn't find problems with the cold or condensation. What proved useful were:

  1. The curtain in the cockpit
  2. A good pair of warm slippers
  3. Hot water bottles for your bed  ( the whole of our aft cabin is a large bed which Amel built for us when the boat was new ). Good duvets.
  4. Heating--we have an Eberspacher ( wonderful), reverse aircon ( no great heat but very useful for ventilating the boat ) plus two domestic fan heaters, 2 and 3 kw. With all three systems  going you have 10,000 Btu----too much after about 10 minutes, but great for instant warmth
  5. We did add bubblewrap to the inside of the hatch in the main saloon
  Beyond that, wrap up warm !


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Alexander Hofmann <DACJ@...>
Sent: 04 May 2021 09:15
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Isolation of hull inside Amel54 or AmelSM - and hatches etc.
 
Dear all,
I am planning to sail higher lattitudes in summer times in the coming years in Europe (Norway / Baltic) and globally later on (NZ South / Patagonia / Alaska / New Foundland etc.) where water temperatures even in summer can be really low, producing a really chilly atmosphere inside - and condensation. This is relevant especially for the aft cabin, which has the most direct contact to sea and air outside, and is not really protected through lockers etc. - Might be very helpful in mid and front ship also. 
The only strategy making sense to me is isolationg with a kind of high performance material on the inside of the hull in lockers below, sidewards in lockers and wardrobes also on the hull, under the inside cover. 
Does anybody has made that already or has any relevant experience with it? Which isolation materials ca be recommended? 
Any experience with measures to avoid condensation on hatches (doubling, protection)? 
I am very thankful for any comment and hint!
Alexander,
SY Oceanica I, Amel54#156


Re: Onan shuts down under load without shutdown codes

Slavko Despotovic
 

Wrong this time. Heat exchanger had to be cleaned. Few hours of cleaning and now the temperatures are 73dC and 23dC. Sea water temperature is 15dC.
Thank you all for help.

--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: Isolation of hull inside Amel54 or AmelSM - and hatches etc.

JB Duler
 

Alexander, I would be super careful with over insulating and no air circulation. You may discover later mold problems or create allergies.
Can you fit a second heating unit (webasto or espar)?
Create air circulation between the hull and the material you use, In other words glue battens on the hull and apply some isolation material, but with air gaps.
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Furler motor to gearbox sm2000

Mike Ondra
 

Eric,
We had both the outhaul and furling motor for the main shear several years ago.
Mike


On May 3, 2021, at 11:01 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



Hi Mike,

What furling motor is this? Main or Genoa?

Fair Winds

Eric

sm

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2021 9:11 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Furler motor to gearbox sm2000

 

Picking up on a thread from last year re shearing of the motor shafts on the furling motors between the motor and gear box.  Happened to SV Delos as shown in Episode 317 around the 10 min. mark. Others have experienced this, all at the same place (Nebo sm251, Aletes SM 240 twice, and I believe Delos is in the 250’s or 260’s). Curious if others have experienced this and if anyone has an explanation. This is a fairly stout shaft and it would seem the motor should stall before shearing if the shaft was healthy (no fatigued). There is no shaft exposure to weather.

 

Mike Ondra

Aleses SM#240

Chesapeake Bay, USA


Re: Isolation of hull inside Amel54 or AmelSM - and hatches etc.

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hello,

Perhaps you can have a look to aerogel :  https://www.agitec.ch/page/aerogel/index.php?lang=FR

For condensation I put on board a dehumidifier (5-10 liter/day !!) : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B07SR9F56P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Jean Luc

SM 316 CottonBay


Le 04/05/2021 à 11:15, Alexander Hofmann a écrit :
Dear all,
I am planning to sail higher lattitudes in summer times in the coming years in Europe (Norway / Baltic) and globally later on (NZ South / Patagonia / Alaska / New Foundland etc.) where water temperatures even in summer can be really low, producing a really chilly atmosphere inside - and condensation. This is relevant especially for the aft cabin, which has the most direct contact to sea and air outside, and is not really protected through lockers etc. - Might be very helpful in mid and front ship also. 
The only strategy making sense to me is isolationg with a kind of high performance material on the inside of the hull in lockers below, sidewards in lockers and wardrobes also on the hull, under the inside cover. 
Does anybody has made that already or has any relevant experience with it? Which isolation materials ca be recommended? 
Any experience with measures to avoid condensation on hatches (doubling, protection)? 
I am very thankful for any comment and hint!
Alexander,
SY Oceanica I, Amel54#156


Isolation of hull inside Amel54 or AmelSM - and hatches etc.

Alexander Hofmann
 

Dear all,
I am planning to sail higher lattitudes in summer times in the coming years in Europe (Norway / Baltic) and globally later on (NZ South / Patagonia / Alaska / New Foundland etc.) where water temperatures even in summer can be really low, producing a really chilly atmosphere inside - and condensation. This is relevant especially for the aft cabin, which has the most direct contact to sea and air outside, and is not really protected through lockers etc. - Might be very helpful in mid and front ship also. 
The only strategy making sense to me is isolationg with a kind of high performance material on the inside of the hull in lockers below, sidewards in lockers and wardrobes also on the hull, under the inside cover. 
Does anybody has made that already or has any relevant experience with it? Which isolation materials ca be recommended? 
Any experience with measures to avoid condensation on hatches (doubling, protection)? 
I am very thankful for any comment and hint!
Alexander,
SY Oceanica I, Amel54#156

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