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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

karkauai
 

I also have a 110 with a high clew (similar to a Yankee).  It is superb in heavy air and works fine in anything over 15kts.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

karkauai
 

I was talked into a 135 when I purchased Kristy.  It's fine in anything over 10 kts, and furled in about 3 ft it holds its shape well and is great in up to about 20kts.  In light air it isn't enough.
It is Dacron with spectra in strategic places and has held its shape well for ten years.

If I were to do it over, I'd get the 150.

Kent
SM 243
S/V Kristy

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

Mark Erdos
 

There are a few postings regarding a sail-maker who is also an Amel on one this site. I would bet this person know what they are talking about.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 5:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

 

 

I've been going through this process with my SM recently as well.  The old genoa was a laminate and completely delaminated.  All the lofts I've spoken to have recommended woven to me for the replacement.  There seems to be wide agreement among lofts, the internet, and this list that tri-radial is best for the genoa, though I don't know if that equation changes with a smaller sail.  I intend to keep the original size (~155%), since I want to be able to use it with the ballooner, but I know one SM owner who opted for a smaller size specifically for use in the Caribbean and loves it.  I'm interested to see what others say.

 

If any loft I haven't talked to yet wants to send me a quote off-list, I'd love to see it.

 

Thanks,

Ryan

SM 233 Iteration

Boston, MA, USA

 

 

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Dear Amelians,

after 13 years, NO STRESS is about ready to get a new genoa.

I'm in possession of a number of offerings from two different companies.

 

The choices are:

135% or 150%?

Dacron: woven or laminate?

tri-radial or cross cut?

 

Can you share your experience in regards to the above choices, or are there (I hope not....) significant reasons to widen the scope of my evaluation? I'm living aboard (currently at the Caribbean) and will use the sail a lot.

Appreciate all your comments,

Fair winds,

Alex Ramseyer

AMEL54 #15

NO STRESS

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: new Genoa

Ian Park
 

We replaced in Trinidad with a triradial. We were persuaded to drop to 140% which we did.
The foot is higher so clear visibility under the leeward side compared with old sail.
Not much downwind in Caribbean so size us better as is shape when reefed. You could keep your old 150% for long downwind as the shape doesn’t matter then. We didn’t because we didn’t have storage space.
So far no regrets.
I think Craig on SN Sangaris did the same.
Will be interested in other comments.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN. Guadaloupe

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

Ryan Meador
 

I've been going through this process with my SM recently as well.  The old genoa was a laminate and completely delaminated.  All the lofts I've spoken to have recommended woven to me for the replacement.  There seems to be wide agreement among lofts, the internet, and this list that tri-radial is best for the genoa, though I don't know if that equation changes with a smaller sail.  I intend to keep the original size (~155%), since I want to be able to use it with the ballooner, but I know one SM owner who opted for a smaller size specifically for use in the Caribbean and loves it.  I'm interested to see what others say.

If any loft I haven't talked to yet wants to send me a quote off-list, I'd love to see it.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dear Amelians,
after 13 years, NO STRESS is about ready to get a new genoa.
I'm in possession of a number of offerings from two different companies.

The choices are:
135% or 150%?
Dacron: woven or laminate?
tri-radial or cross cut?

Can you share your experience in regards to the above choices, or are there (I hope not....) significant reasons to widen the scope of my evaluation? I'm living aboard (currently at the Caribbean) and will use the sail a lot.
Appreciate all your comments,
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer
AMEL54 #15
NO STRESS






new Genoa

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Dear Amelians,
after 13 years, NO STRESS is about ready to get a new genoa.
I'm in possession of a number of offerings from two different companies.

The choices are:
135% or 150%?
Dacron: woven or laminate?
tri-radial or cross cut?

Can you share your experience in regards to the above choices, or are there (I hope not....) significant reasons to widen the scope of my evaluation? I'm living aboard (currently at the Caribbean) and will use the sail a lot.
Appreciate all your comments,
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer
AMEL54 #15
NO STRESS





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya water pump UK dealer

Barry Connor
 

Hi Paul
We are now driving back to our boat, what is the latest you need them at your address in Brighton? I will send you 2 sets.
If we don’t catch up just  ‘pay it on’ to another AMEL owner.
Best Regards 

Barry & Penelope 
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel. 54.  #17
Marina di Ragusa Sicily


On Mar 6, 2018, at 12:47, sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Barry,

Fantastic, yes please could you send me whatever you can spare. Not sure how to pay you for them though as I'm in Dominica at present. Maybe we can work something out. The address is:

Paul Dowd
95 Hanover Terrace
Brighton,
BN2 9SP

Many thanks and happy sailing!
Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya water pump UK dealer

ya_fohi
 

Barry,

I just replied to your post but don't see my reply so here goes again.

Yes please I would much appreciate if you could send me what you can spare. The address is:

Paul Dowd
95 Hanover Terrace
Brighton
BN2 9SP

Not sure how I can pay you for them as I'm currently in Dominica but maybe we can work something out.
Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya water pump UK dealer

ya_fohi
 

Barry,

Fantastic, yes please could you send me whatever you can spare. Not sure how to pay you for them though as I'm in Dominica at present. Maybe we can work something out. The address is:

Paul Dowd
95 Hanover Terrace
Brighton,
BN2 9SP

Many thanks and happy sailing!
Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maretron Electronics experience?

Duane Siegfri
 

Paul,

I'll have to get the USB gateway.  At least that way I'll know what's happening.

Thanks!
Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maretron Electronics experience?

paul schofield <pwschofield@...>
 

Duane, I had the Maretron USB100 gateway that I was able to configure, through my laptop, the Maretron units using N2KAnalyzer which is free from Maretron.  This helped getting all the components playing well with each other since they all have to have unique instances. 

 

Paul

SM215 Trillium

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 10:43:35 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maretron Electronics experience?
 
 

I have a Maretron DST110 and WSO100 on my boat, which otherwise has all Raymarine electronics.  I'm not certain the DST110 is functional; I get weird temperature and speed readings from it.  I have a Raymarine DSM300 that I suspect is the source of my depth information.  The WSO100 gives great wind information, but its temperature and humidity outputs are questionable.  I haven't put any effort into trying to troubleshoot any of these issues.  I believe you have to use a Maretron USB adapter (which I have but have never used) to configure the Maretron instruments if you don't have a Maretron MFD.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:14 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the replies everyone.


Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM dodger window mechanical drawings

Duane Siegfri
 

Ryan,

Sliding up into the dodger meant that water could not run down the dodger and catch on the top of the glass and then find a way to dribble down the inside of the windscreen.  The same thought process went into the port side operable windscreen.

Good luck with your replacement!  I would definitely go with the reinforced Sailrite type pattern material.  That way you can mark where the current screws are located and have them drilled out.

Other folks have taken care to paint the part of the windscreen against the dodger grey or black to prevent the caulk from showing through, or some ugly mold etc.

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Conversations going direct to email

Alan Grayson
 

Thanks Mark, I had a folder i was moving the emails that i wanted to keep into and i guess after a year of doing this hotmail decided that they should all just go there. I tried to make some rules so that it would happen like this last year but could never get it to work. I'm a happy sailor again
Alan
Future Amel owner

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM dodger window mechanical drawings

Ryan Meador
 

Duane, thank you.  That photo came through.  I guess it is probably just straight on the sides and the place at the top that looks like it might notch into the dodger is an illusion.  I wonder why Amel opted to have the top of this one slide into the dodger instead of screws.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 2:32 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hopefully it will load this time!


Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM dodger window mechanical drawings

Duane Siegfri
 

Hopefully it will load this time!

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM dodger window mechanical drawings

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Duane,
Thank you for the info.  I don't see your photo either here or on the Yahoo site.  Did it upload correctly?

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:51 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ryan,


I looked at ours (see the photo I uploaded) and the top of the plexiglass slides into a slot at the top of the window opening that is then caulked.  I think it's the same thickness as the one that opens, but to be sure measure the port side window thickness then see if it will slide into the recess at the top of the stbd window opening. 

Your idea of making a template makes sense, but you should make it out of something rigid, like thin plywood.  You could also get the reinforced plastic for patterns (like Sailrite sells) and tape it over the opening and trace where you want the edges of the plexiglass.  You might want to go a tad oversize since you can sand it down easily but when it's too small, it's all over.

I didn't see any special shaped cutouts on mine, it was pretty plain.  Measurements would be tough since it isn't regular, but if I can provide any other information let me know.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maretron Electronics experience?

Ryan Meador
 

I have a Maretron DST110 and WSO100 on my boat, which otherwise has all Raymarine electronics.  I'm not certain the DST110 is functional; I get weird temperature and speed readings from it.  I have a Raymarine DSM300 that I suspect is the source of my depth information.  The WSO100 gives great wind information, but its temperature and humidity outputs are questionable.  I haven't put any effort into trying to troubleshoot any of these issues.  I believe you have to use a Maretron USB adapter (which I have but have never used) to configure the Maretron instruments if you don't have a Maretron MFD.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:14 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the replies everyone.


Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries

Marcel Krauth <marcel.krauth@...>
 

With two fridges and the deep freezer I was on low level below 24v in the morning, we had to put on the generator to watch tv in the evening
Since I installed the new battery I can wait the load from the solar panel to charge the battery in june july (long day) The battery are at 100% end of the morning the good days
I have 440w solar panel with a victron regulator with charge info on my I phone
Regards
Marcel


On 05/03/2018 18:00, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Thank you Marcel. How long have you had them and have you noticed any decrease in capacity? How would you rate their performance so far? Do you have solar panels on board?
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 1:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries

Hi Mohammad,

The battery is an Effekta BTL 12-120s AGM 120 AH
the size is 330*172*227 with 33 kg per battery is the same as the original battery installed by Amel but with 10AH more per battery
The only job to do is to drill new holes in the copper plates and cut the copper plate to adapt the size
cost around 220 euros per battery
Marcel

On 04/03/2018 16:53, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
Hello Marcel;
Can you please let me know the Effectamodel number of the batteries you used. We too need to change batteries this season. Did you have to make any modifications to make the batteries work or were they a direct drop in.
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 12:45 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries [1 Attachment]

Hi Den and Julie,

I found a battery in Germany at the same size with the original battery and with 120 AH instead of 110 , I installed the Effecta battery two years ago and I'm really satisfied
My boat is at the moment in Preveza Greece , I have also solar panel 440w with a victron regulator

Marcel Krauth
Amel 54 Ganesha 173

On 03/03/2018 23:15, delborn@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Hi everyone, I need to replace my batteries. As it's important to find an exact fit has anyone sourced them in Croatia. It seems difficult to even find the manufacturer - is it Delphi?


Den and Julie

Aventura

Amel 54 - 113




Re: SM dodger window mechanical drawings

Duane Siegfri
 

Ryan,

I looked at ours (see the photo I uploaded) and the top of the plexiglass slides into a slot at the top of the window opening that is then caulked.  I think it's the same thickness as the one that opens, but to be sure measure the port side window thickness then see if it will slide into the recess at the top of the stbd window opening. 

Your idea of making a template makes sense, but you should make it out of something rigid, like thin plywood.  You could also get the reinforced plastic for patterns (like Sailrite sells) and tape it over the opening and trace where you want the edges of the plexiglass.  You might want to go a tad oversize since you can sand it down easily but when it's too small, it's all over.

I didn't see any special shaped cutouts on mine, it was pretty plain.  Measurements would be tough since it isn't regular, but if I can provide any other information let me know.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thank you Marcel. How long have you had them and have you noticed any decrease in capacity? How would you rate their performance so far? Do you have solar panels on board?
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099



From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 1:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries

 

Hi Mohammad,

The battery is an Effekta BTL 12-120s AGM 120 AH
the size is 330*172*227 with 33 kg per battery is the same as the original battery installed by Amel but with 10AH more per battery
The only job to do is to drill new holes in the copper plates and cut the copper plate to adapt the size
cost around 220 euros per battery
Marcel

On 04/03/2018 16:53, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Hello Marcel;
 
Can you please let me know the Effecta model number of the batteries you used. We too need to change batteries this season. Did you have to make any modifications to make the batteries work or were they a direct drop in.
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 12:45 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries [1 Attachment]

 

Hi Den and Julie,

I found a battery in Germany at the same size with the original battery and with 120 AH instead of 110 , I installed the Effecta battery two years ago and I'm really satisfied
My boat is at the moment in Preveza Greece , I have also solar panel 440w with a victron regulator
 
Marcel Krauth
Amel 54 Ganesha 173

On 03/03/2018 23:15, delborn@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Hi everyone, I need to replace my batteries. As it's important to find an exact fit has anyone sourced them in Croatia. It seems difficult to even find the manufacturer - is it Delphi?


Den and Julie

Aventura

Amel 54 - 113