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Clothes Washer Replacement- Martinique

thomas.kleman <no_reply@...>
 

I thought I would add to the group's knowledge base and share my recent experiences. I read all the posts and was persuaded that I should probably change out my 14 year old clothes washer before it breaks. As I found myself in Martinique, what better place than here to do this, as the voltage is 220/50.


The previous posts were helpful in that 60 cm depth and 40 cm width is a European standard. The two long cabinet bolts are also about 61 cm apart so even though there is room in the cabinet, major carpentry would be involved if you went bigger than 60 cm depth. FYI, at least on SM2K #422, the old Thomson 5 kg unit I replaced was 45 cm wide, so despite having slightly more capacity (6 kg vs 5 kg), the new machine is only 40 cm wide. The tricky thing here is the height. On my boat, the max height of the machine at the highest point of the control panel can be 91.5 cm (the height of the inside hinge of the lid). Some of the machines that otherwise would fit were too tall (high knobs, etc.) for this space. Also, the lid handle on some models protrudes very close to the wall of the cabinet on some (i.e 4-5 cm forward of the front). So if you buy a new machine, it's risky to ignore the height and the handle measurements.


There are at least 3 options to purchase a machine in Martinique (Fort de France); Hyper-U (Galleria Mall), Jules Vieules (Galleria Mall), and Darty (20 min walk from Galleria mall). Hyper-U had 1 model that fit. Darty and Jules Vieules had more selection and I'd recommend those options.


We purchased our machine at Darty, only finding out later that the warehouse and showroom are a 20 minute walk apart. We were impatient so we anchored in Fort de France and actually dinghied our machine to the boat (59 kg) and hoisted it aboard. No problem as my wife is quite strong and correctly saw our failure in this effort as being sentenced to bucket washing for at least a year. The old machine is heavier however. I was worried about the reverse process (getting the old machine off the boat without damage) and decided to disassemble it into lighter pieces. Seems like 1/3 of the weight of the old machine is the 3 counter vibration weights bolted onto it. I'd highly recommend this process unless you have 4 strong people on your boat. Amazing to look at a disassembled clothes washer and ponder how it can be 1/4 the price of the simple aluminum casting atop your genoa furler, but I digress.....boat economics, I guess.


The new machine ended up being a Thomson THOM-Top 14 which I purchased for about 420 euros. No carpentry needed at all, save some bracing on the width because it's 40 cm wide vs. the old one's 45 cm width.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

Paul Osterberg
 

Kent and others

We have today a 150% Genoa, just a few seasons old, we do not find it work well in apparent winds above 20 knots, when partly furled it wrinkles a lot and windward capability is poor, rather poor also when not furled.Typically we do 120 degrees between the tacks going upwind with the AP steering.
As we going to spend a few seasons in the Caribbean we thought of ordering a new smaller Genoa suitable for the wind conditions in the Caribbean. and use the 150% when sailing in the Pacific.

What would you recommend?
an 110 or 135% genoa for the Caribbean?

We also thinking of geting a genacker on a furler, but where to store all the sails?

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya water pump UK dealer

ya_fohi
 

Barry,

Anytime will do, I won't be back there until May (crewing in the Antugua Classics). Much appreciated and will pass on the good will of course.

Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

karkauai
 

I also have a 110 with a high clew (similar to a Yankee).  It is superb in heavy air and works fine in anything over 15kts.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

karkauai
 

I was talked into a 135 when I purchased Kristy.  It's fine in anything over 10 kts, and furled in about 3 ft it holds its shape well and is great in up to about 20kts.  In light air it isn't enough.
It is Dacron with spectra in strategic places and has held its shape well for ten years.

If I were to do it over, I'd get the 150.

Kent
SM 243
S/V Kristy

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

Mark Erdos
 

There are a few postings regarding a sail-maker who is also an Amel on one this site. I would bet this person know what they are talking about.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 5:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

 

 

I've been going through this process with my SM recently as well.  The old genoa was a laminate and completely delaminated.  All the lofts I've spoken to have recommended woven to me for the replacement.  There seems to be wide agreement among lofts, the internet, and this list that tri-radial is best for the genoa, though I don't know if that equation changes with a smaller sail.  I intend to keep the original size (~155%), since I want to be able to use it with the ballooner, but I know one SM owner who opted for a smaller size specifically for use in the Caribbean and loves it.  I'm interested to see what others say.

 

If any loft I haven't talked to yet wants to send me a quote off-list, I'd love to see it.

 

Thanks,

Ryan

SM 233 Iteration

Boston, MA, USA

 

 

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Dear Amelians,

after 13 years, NO STRESS is about ready to get a new genoa.

I'm in possession of a number of offerings from two different companies.

 

The choices are:

135% or 150%?

Dacron: woven or laminate?

tri-radial or cross cut?

 

Can you share your experience in regards to the above choices, or are there (I hope not....) significant reasons to widen the scope of my evaluation? I'm living aboard (currently at the Caribbean) and will use the sail a lot.

Appreciate all your comments,

Fair winds,

Alex Ramseyer

AMEL54 #15

NO STRESS

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: new Genoa

Ian Park
 

We replaced in Trinidad with a triradial. We were persuaded to drop to 140% which we did.
The foot is higher so clear visibility under the leeward side compared with old sail.
Not much downwind in Caribbean so size us better as is shape when reefed. You could keep your old 150% for long downwind as the shape doesn’t matter then. We didn’t because we didn’t have storage space.
So far no regrets.
I think Craig on SN Sangaris did the same.
Will be interested in other comments.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN. Guadaloupe

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] new Genoa

Ryan Meador
 

I've been going through this process with my SM recently as well.  The old genoa was a laminate and completely delaminated.  All the lofts I've spoken to have recommended woven to me for the replacement.  There seems to be wide agreement among lofts, the internet, and this list that tri-radial is best for the genoa, though I don't know if that equation changes with a smaller sail.  I intend to keep the original size (~155%), since I want to be able to use it with the ballooner, but I know one SM owner who opted for a smaller size specifically for use in the Caribbean and loves it.  I'm interested to see what others say.

If any loft I haven't talked to yet wants to send me a quote off-list, I'd love to see it.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dear Amelians,
after 13 years, NO STRESS is about ready to get a new genoa.
I'm in possession of a number of offerings from two different companies.

The choices are:
135% or 150%?
Dacron: woven or laminate?
tri-radial or cross cut?

Can you share your experience in regards to the above choices, or are there (I hope not....) significant reasons to widen the scope of my evaluation? I'm living aboard (currently at the Caribbean) and will use the sail a lot.
Appreciate all your comments,
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer
AMEL54 #15
NO STRESS






new Genoa

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Dear Amelians,
after 13 years, NO STRESS is about ready to get a new genoa.
I'm in possession of a number of offerings from two different companies.

The choices are:
135% or 150%?
Dacron: woven or laminate?
tri-radial or cross cut?

Can you share your experience in regards to the above choices, or are there (I hope not....) significant reasons to widen the scope of my evaluation? I'm living aboard (currently at the Caribbean) and will use the sail a lot.
Appreciate all your comments,
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer
AMEL54 #15
NO STRESS





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya water pump UK dealer

Barry Connor
 

Hi Paul
We are now driving back to our boat, what is the latest you need them at your address in Brighton? I will send you 2 sets.
If we don’t catch up just  ‘pay it on’ to another AMEL owner.
Best Regards 

Barry & Penelope 
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel. 54.  #17
Marina di Ragusa Sicily


On Mar 6, 2018, at 12:47, sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Barry,

Fantastic, yes please could you send me whatever you can spare. Not sure how to pay you for them though as I'm in Dominica at present. Maybe we can work something out. The address is:

Paul Dowd
95 Hanover Terrace
Brighton,
BN2 9SP

Many thanks and happy sailing!
Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya water pump UK dealer

ya_fohi
 

Barry,

I just replied to your post but don't see my reply so here goes again.

Yes please I would much appreciate if you could send me what you can spare. The address is:

Paul Dowd
95 Hanover Terrace
Brighton
BN2 9SP

Not sure how I can pay you for them as I'm currently in Dominica but maybe we can work something out.
Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Reya water pump UK dealer

ya_fohi
 

Barry,

Fantastic, yes please could you send me whatever you can spare. Not sure how to pay you for them though as I'm in Dominica at present. Maybe we can work something out. The address is:

Paul Dowd
95 Hanover Terrace
Brighton,
BN2 9SP

Many thanks and happy sailing!
Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maretron Electronics experience?

Duane Siegfri
 

Paul,

I'll have to get the USB gateway.  At least that way I'll know what's happening.

Thanks!
Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maretron Electronics experience?

paul schofield <pwschofield@...>
 

Duane, I had the Maretron USB100 gateway that I was able to configure, through my laptop, the Maretron units using N2KAnalyzer which is free from Maretron.  This helped getting all the components playing well with each other since they all have to have unique instances. 

 

Paul

SM215 Trillium

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 10:43:35 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maretron Electronics experience?
 
 

I have a Maretron DST110 and WSO100 on my boat, which otherwise has all Raymarine electronics.  I'm not certain the DST110 is functional; I get weird temperature and speed readings from it.  I have a Raymarine DSM300 that I suspect is the source of my depth information.  The WSO100 gives great wind information, but its temperature and humidity outputs are questionable.  I haven't put any effort into trying to troubleshoot any of these issues.  I believe you have to use a Maretron USB adapter (which I have but have never used) to configure the Maretron instruments if you don't have a Maretron MFD.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:14 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the replies everyone.


Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM dodger window mechanical drawings

Duane Siegfri
 

Ryan,

Sliding up into the dodger meant that water could not run down the dodger and catch on the top of the glass and then find a way to dribble down the inside of the windscreen.  The same thought process went into the port side operable windscreen.

Good luck with your replacement!  I would definitely go with the reinforced Sailrite type pattern material.  That way you can mark where the current screws are located and have them drilled out.

Other folks have taken care to paint the part of the windscreen against the dodger grey or black to prevent the caulk from showing through, or some ugly mold etc.

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Conversations going direct to email

Alan Grayson
 

Thanks Mark, I had a folder i was moving the emails that i wanted to keep into and i guess after a year of doing this hotmail decided that they should all just go there. I tried to make some rules so that it would happen like this last year but could never get it to work. I'm a happy sailor again
Alan
Future Amel owner

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM dodger window mechanical drawings

Ryan Meador
 

Duane, thank you.  That photo came through.  I guess it is probably just straight on the sides and the place at the top that looks like it might notch into the dodger is an illusion.  I wonder why Amel opted to have the top of this one slide into the dodger instead of screws.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 2:32 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hopefully it will load this time!


Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM dodger window mechanical drawings

Duane Siegfri
 

Hopefully it will load this time!

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM dodger window mechanical drawings

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Duane,
Thank you for the info.  I don't see your photo either here or on the Yahoo site.  Did it upload correctly?

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 12:51 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ryan,


I looked at ours (see the photo I uploaded) and the top of the plexiglass slides into a slot at the top of the window opening that is then caulked.  I think it's the same thickness as the one that opens, but to be sure measure the port side window thickness then see if it will slide into the recess at the top of the stbd window opening. 

Your idea of making a template makes sense, but you should make it out of something rigid, like thin plywood.  You could also get the reinforced plastic for patterns (like Sailrite sells) and tape it over the opening and trace where you want the edges of the plexiglass.  You might want to go a tad oversize since you can sand it down easily but when it's too small, it's all over.

I didn't see any special shaped cutouts on mine, it was pretty plain.  Measurements would be tough since it isn't regular, but if I can provide any other information let me know.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maretron Electronics experience?

Ryan Meador
 

I have a Maretron DST110 and WSO100 on my boat, which otherwise has all Raymarine electronics.  I'm not certain the DST110 is functional; I get weird temperature and speed readings from it.  I have a Raymarine DSM300 that I suspect is the source of my depth information.  The WSO100 gives great wind information, but its temperature and humidity outputs are questionable.  I haven't put any effort into trying to troubleshoot any of these issues.  I believe you have to use a Maretron USB adapter (which I have but have never used) to configure the Maretron instruments if you don't have a Maretron MFD.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:14 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the replies everyone.


Duane
Wanderer, SM#477