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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: tb/AMEL SCHOOL/

Teun BAAS <teunbaas@...>
 

Hi Alan,

 

Thank you. Yeah – she is a great boat. She has basically (except for 3 or 4 days in 2016) not sailed for almost 28 months and that hasn’t done her much good.

I have been on board here in NEW CALEDONIA now for almost 11 weeks, of which 2 ½ weeks with another AMEL forum member,  and am still not finished. I guess another 4 to 5 weeks before I am ready to go but then she will be returned virtually to 100% AMEL spec except the SPECTRA water maker.

Having Bill ROUSE (for almost 2 weeks) on board has been a tremendous help. I am not saying this to be nice; I am Dutch and we are painfully direct but it is amazing on how many things he was able to direct & inform the local mechanics & technicians. We made massive progress while he was here and that was the reason I extended his original stay with another 5 days.

 

I am really looking forward taking AMELIT out and letting her finally out of the barn.

 

Best Regards Teun

Mar 04, 2018   20:28:56

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 7:46 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: tb/AMEL SCHOOL/

 

 

Congratulations Teun on your purchase.

Amelit is a great boat.

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries

Marcel Krauth <marcel.krauth@...>
 

Hi Den and Julie,

I found a battery in Germany at the same size with the original battery and with 120 AH instead of 110 , I installed the Effecta battery two years ago and I'm really satisfied
My boat is at the moment in Preveza Greece , I have also solar panel 440w with a victron regulator
 
Marcel Krauth
Amel 54 Ganesha 173

On 03/03/2018 23:15, delborn@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Hi everyone, I need to replace my batteries. As it's important to find an exact fit has anyone sourced them in Croatia. It seems difficult to even find the manufacturer - is it Delphi?


Den and Julie

Aventura

Amel 54 - 113


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mystery line

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Yes. 😀

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mizzen balloner

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Den,

It works, and you need some hands-on help. 

But, the best advice I can give you is have a sailmaker put that sail in a sock, and only use the sail when the wind is between 90 and 120 degrees.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 9:28 AM, delborn@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Although we have owned Aventura for a couple of seasons I  got the mizzen staysail out of the bag for the first time last season. Probably never used by the previous owner as it seemed brand new.

Mt question is how is the best way to fly it. If I have it on the leeward side of the main then the main becomes useless, cannot let it out enough, and if I fly it to windward of the main the tack rope is too short, the main sheet is fouled. Obviously I can lengthen the tack rope but I agree with Bill that Amel get pretty well everything right so what am I doing wrong?


Den and Julie

Aventura

Amel 54 - 113




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Mystery line

Denis Elborn
 

Hi Everyone (again)

There is one piece of rope that I can't find a use for. Can anyone shed some light on it?

Den and Julie
Aventura
Amel 54 - 113


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Den

Delphi is no longer in business, except maybe the Delphi battery may be available in Turkey made under a license agreement.

Varta makes a "freedom" battery similar to the GROUP 31 Delphi Freedom battery. I did not have good luck with Varta, but I believe the Greek battery dealer sold me old stock... BEWARE, this can happen anywhere.

You might consider buying GROUP 31 normal lead acid batteries that you will have to check the water level and add distilled water. 

Be careful of adding an AGM battery or other sophisticated battery unless you are absolutely certain all of your charges can be adjusted.

My 1 year old batteries failed in Montenegro. I bought Korean made lead acid starting batteries because there were no deep cycle marine batteries available. I think they cost about 110 Euro and they lasted 2 years...not bad for a non-deep cycle, but I had solar which kept them above 85% charge. 

Good luck.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mar 4, 2018 09:16, "delborn@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi everyone, I need to replace my batteries. As it's important to find an exact fit has anyone sourced them in Croatia. It seems difficult to even find the manufacturer - is it Delphi?


Den and Julie

Aventura

Amel 54 - 113


Mizzen balloner

Denis Elborn
 

Although we have owned Aventura for a couple of seasons I  got the mizzen staysail out of the bag for the first time last season. Probably never used by the previous owner as it seemed brand new.

Mt question is how is the best way to fly it. If I have it on the leeward side of the main then the main becomes useless, cannot let it out enough, and if I fly it to windward of the main the tack rope is too short, the main sheet is fouled. Obviously I can lengthen the tack rope but I agree with Bill that Amel get pretty well everything right so what am I doing wrong?


Den and Julie

Aventura

Amel 54 - 113

Batteries

Denis Elborn
 

Hi everyone, I need to replace my batteries. As it's important to find an exact fit has anyone sourced them in Croatia. It seems difficult to even find the manufacturer - is it Delphi?


Den and Julie

Aventura

Amel 54 - 113

Reya water pump UK dealer

ya_fohi
 

Hi,
I am looking for a UK dealer who can supply me with brushes for my Reya water pump. Any info most appreciated.
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98


Re: tb/AMEL SCHOOL/

Alan Leslie
 

Congratulations Teun on your purchase.
Amelit is a great boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main Sail Furler

Patrick McAneny
 

Duane, I had decided to leave the old race in, but I just used a torch on it , maybe I will put it in the oven. It seems the race would expand as well as the casing for 0 net effect. However the aluminum would expand faster as it conducts heat better than steel.
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Mar 2, 2018 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main Sail Furler

 
Pat,

I did heat it in an oven, and it then came out very easily.  I pried / scraped somewhat gently from the hole in the body for the winch socket and it took very little to get it out.  It needs to be as hot as your oven will go though.

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Extra halyard???

Beaute Olivier
 

Good morning,

I remember when handing-over Super Maramus that some new owners were anxious to have only a furling genoa as headsail in heavy weather conditions.
An easy solution was then to rig a pulley and Vectran halyard at the first spreaders front fittings, the ones that go through the extrusion. We (at after sales/handing over service) made two spliced loops with polyamide (mooring line type) rope, one for each spreader, that came together to a pulley. We used to glue a piece of leather on the mast in order the pulley does chafe the paint.
The owner had then a 7 sqm storm sail made, orange colour, with a Vectran lufftape. The tack would be rigged on the windlass cleat or on the towing cleat in front of it. The sheets would be rigged on a pulley attached to the front genoa sheet track eyebolt (the one for the preventer).
With a storm sail, you don't really need to set the sheet very close to the mast (you are not close hauling with 40/50 knots).
This was a free flying storm sail, with the lower aft shrouds as backing part.

Some other people also came to a staysail system, fitted at second spreaders, but this is another story.

Amel and after sales have never installed such a halyard at mid mast, which would require to drill the mast for installing a fitting for the pulley. Don't do that, you would weaken the mast.

Joel, if the above is not clear enough, you may need to translate...

Have a good day.

Olivier




On Saturday, March 3, 2018 1:53 AM, "pjn.mccallin@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 


Additional halyard

pjn.mccallin@...
 

I hope I’m not repeating myself, I cannot see what I’m typing, anyway  here goes.

I ordered Caramelle to be delivered with the additional halyard at a cost of €686!

The reason why was really very simple, without it how was I to gain access to the top of the mast?

Nothing to do with extra sails etc, I wanted/needed to be certain I could access the plethora of systems at the mast head, indeed I am in the process of fitting a new wind speed bearing to my B&G MHU!

Hope this clarifies the issue, sorry for any typos, I cannot read what I’ve typed!!!

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Extra halyard???

pjn.mccallin@...
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Extra halyard???

amelforme
 

I’m asking Olivier

JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 

On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:44 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Joel, for the background.  


I do have a storm sail on board, but if I raised it on that halyard, it would have to be sheeted inside the rigging, and there are no blocks for that purpose.

OK, so I'll leave it up and maybe someone will eventually know more about it.

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Extra halyard???

Ian Townsend
 

You can use a snatch block affixed to the bottom of one of the stanchions where the preventer attaches.

Ian
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153

On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:44 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Joel, for the background.  


I do have a storm sail on board, but if I raised it on that halyard, it would have to be sheeted inside the rigging, and there are no blocks for that purpose.

OK, so I'll leave it up and maybe someone will eventually know more about it.

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

Ian Townsend
 

We have one heavy block that hangs down the forward side of the mast and is made fast to both of the spreaders at the mast with what looks to be about 5/8" line. So it can be used on either tack.

Ian
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153

On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:38 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Oh! This discussion is so timely! I hope you are all talking about the halyard that runs through the block about halfway up the front side of the main mast? This is the double block with just one side used for the mystery halyard?

 

I too have wondered what is the purpose of this and basically filed it under the “I’ll figure it out, one day” category.

 

But to complicate things further, we had only ONE extra halyard there. The other side was empty. Then, we had some work done by Amel and they removed our headsail furling motor. When, they were done, they installed yet another halyard. So, now we have TWO halyards (one of each side of this block) about which I ponder the purpose of. These are in addition to the two lifting halyards for the twin pole system.

 

It’s still filed in the same category but it might be nice to know the answer sooner rather than later.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 1:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

 

 

We have that halyard also. In addition to potentially lifting the dinghy (though there are other halyards that can be used for this purpose), I was thinking it was to raise the storm staysail. If not, then perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what would raise it. It certainly would not go to the masthead.

Ian Townsend

S/V Loca Lola II 

SM153

George Town, Exuma, Bahamas. 


On Mar 1, 2018, at 8:51 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have an odd halyard that goes up to the first spreader.  The previous owner had looped some heavy line around the lower spreaders and hung a block from it which has a halyard in it.

 

I don't know the reason for it.  #477 came stock with a 3rd main mast halyard (top of mast) for the gennaker (original equipment, it's in the Amel book).  The third main mast halyard would be fine for raising a dinghy so why the odd additional halyard at the spreader?

 

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Extra halyard???

Duane Siegfri
 

Thanks Joel, for the background.  

I do have a storm sail on board, but if I raised it on that halyard, it would have to be sheeted inside the rigging, and there are no blocks for that purpose.

OK, so I'll leave it up and maybe someone will eventually know more about it.

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

Mark Erdos
 

Oh! This discussion is so timely! I hope you are all talking about the halyard that runs through the block about halfway up the front side of the main mast? This is the double block with just one side used for the mystery halyard?

 

I too have wondered what is the purpose of this and basically filed it under the “I’ll figure it out, one day” category.

 

But to complicate things further, we had only ONE extra halyard there. The other side was empty. Then, we had some work done by Amel and they removed our headsail furling motor. When, they were done, they installed yet another halyard. So, now we have TWO halyards (one of each side of this block) about which I ponder the purpose of. These are in addition to the two lifting halyards for the twin pole system.

 

It’s still filed in the same category but it might be nice to know the answer sooner rather than later.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 1:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

 

 

We have that halyard also. In addition to potentially lifting the dinghy (though there are other halyards that can be used for this purpose), I was thinking it was to raise the storm staysail. If not, then perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what would raise it. It certainly would not go to the masthead.

Ian Townsend

S/V Loca Lola II 

SM153

George Town, Exuma, Bahamas. 


On Mar 1, 2018, at 8:51 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have an odd halyard that goes up to the first spreader.  The previous owner had looped some heavy line around the lower spreaders and hung a block from it which has a halyard in it.

 

I don't know the reason for it.  #477 came stock with a 3rd main mast halyard (top of mast) for the gennaker (original equipment, it's in the Amel book).  The third main mast halyard would be fine for raising a dinghy so why the odd additional halyard at the spreader?

 

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

Mark Erdos
 

Oh! This discussion is so timely! I hope you are all talking about the halyard that runs through the block about halfway up the front side of the main mast? This is the double block with just one side used for the mystery halyard?

 

I too have wondered what is the purpose of this and basically filed it under the “I’ll figure it out, one day” category.

 

But to complicate things further, we had only ONE extra halyard there. The other side was empty. Then, we had some work done by Amel and they removed our headsail furling motor. When, they were done, they installed yet another halyard. So, now we have TWO halyards (one of each side of this block) about which I ponder the purpose of. These are in addition to the two lifting halyards for the twin pole system.

 

It’s still filed in the same category but it might be nice to know the answer sooner rather than later.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 1:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

 

 

We have that halyard also. In addition to potentially lifting the dinghy (though there are other halyards that can be used for this purpose), I was thinking it was to raise the storm staysail. If not, then perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what would raise it. It certainly would not go to the masthead.

Ian Townsend

S/V Loca Lola II 

SM153

George Town, Exuma, Bahamas. 


On Mar 1, 2018, at 8:51 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have an odd halyard that goes up to the first spreader.  The previous owner had looped some heavy line around the lower spreaders and hung a block from it which has a halyard in it.

 

I don't know the reason for it.  #477 came stock with a 3rd main mast halyard (top of mast) for the gennaker (original equipment, it's in the Amel book).  The third main mast halyard would be fine for raising a dinghy so why the odd additional halyard at the spreader?

 

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477