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Re: Condensation on bottom of freezer?

greatketch@...
 

Duane,

The problem is that Amel was no better than other boat builders when it came to insulating cold boxes.  You have two choices.  You either live with it, or rip things apart and properly insulate it and end up with a box with a smaller interior volume.  

A proper freezer should have, as a minimum, 4 inches of insulation. Six would be better.  Most boat builders would never consider this because it makes the inside of the box look too small at the boat show. My Amel installed box has no more than 2 inches.  It will sweat.  The real problem is that all that condensation is wasted energy.

There is no substitute for real, effective insulation. And there is certainly no easy way to retrofit this. We live with the minimally effective insulation that came with our boat. But, every time I feel the see condensation, or feel the cold on the exterior of the box, I grit my teeth and wish for better.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Freeport, Bahamas

Re: Condensation on bottom of freezer?

Duane Siegfri
 

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your reply.

I meant to say the outside bottom of the freezer.  You can reach underneath it from the deck locker to stbd.  The seals are in good-enough condition, they are on my long term maintenance list to replace though.

Duane

Re: Condensation on bottom of freezer?

Duane Siegfri
 

Hi Bill,

It's on the outside bottom of the freezer that is just forward of the washing machine.  I have tools in the below deck locker (between the washing machine and the drawers on the aft end of the love seat) and the tool bags were wet.  I stuck my hand in that deck locker  and under the freezer and the outside bottom of the freezer was soaking wet.  There is no water pooled in the aforementioned deck locker, but the tool bags were wet.

The freezer is operating normally, and the condensor and compressor are free of ice or dust.  The food in the freezer is frozen and the "floor" of the freezer is clear of ice so I don't think it went through a thaw and refroze.

We had just defrosted the refrigerator but there was no water on the top of the water tank between the freezer and the washing machine, so it doesn't seem to have come from there.

It seems likely that it's condensation.  We had some water near the rudder quadrant from condensation, and some in the pan of the forward air conditioning unit.  I thought the freezer insulated well enough that it wouldn't condense water but it's been extremely humid and cool.  Add to that two humans breathing out water vapor and I guess it's not surprising.

Thanks for your thoughts Bill!
Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Condensation on bottom of freezer?

eric freedman
 

Hi,

Did does the freezer evaporator also Ice up?

Did you do the dollar bill check on the seals?

It seems unusual that there would be water and not ice on  the inside bottom of your freezer

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Condensation on bottom of freezer?

 

 

I'm having a lot of condensation on the bottom of the freezer.  It's winter here in Georgia with humidity in the 60 to 85% range, and temperatures in the 50's and 60's.  Water temp is right there as well.  

 

Is this normal for the conditions or is there something else I should look for?  We're not running the air conditioning so it's not the condensate pan.

 

Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel owner saying goodbye

eric freedman
 

Dear Rafael,

I am so sorry that the insurance company raped you. I was hoping they would honor their

obligation and pay .you what you fairly expected.

 

We will miss you. You are always welcome on Kimberlite.

Please keep in touch via private email.

 

We are heading north to New York  nonstop from Martinique the end of May.

If you would like to make the passage please let me know.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of rcavie
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 2:57 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel owner saying goodbye

 

 

Dear friends AMEL owners

Probably this will be the last email that I send and I will withdraw from the group. 

The reason is that Hurricane Irma destroyed my Amel SM2k and it will be impossible for me to recover it.

The insurance will only pay a fraction of what it would cost me to buy an equal one. Deductibles and other reasons.

This situation not only destroyed my ship but my dreams. My dreams of living on board with my wife, my dreams of crossing the Atlantic to the East, my dreams of sailing the Mediterranean and perhaps other seas and finally returning to the beautiful South of Chile.



In this group I gained friends and knowledge and for that, I thank each and every one of you, especially Eric and Alexandre who from the beginning helped me with their advice.

If you sail to Chile you will have a friend here.

Greetings to all

 

Fair winds

Rafael

SM2k 246

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: An update on our Firefly Batteries.

James Alton
 

Bill,
Thanks for the link to the informative update on your Firefly batteries.  These batteries certainly sound promising.  

James Alton
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Feb 14, 2018, at 12:10 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Since people asked for an update on our experience with our Firefly batteries, here is a link to what we have seen so far:



In summary, they are behaving pretty much as expected.  

The key question about their ability to resist significant sulfation when held partial charged for long periods will not be known until I have a feel for their lifespan.  Hopefully, that will take a long time to answer!

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Freeport, Bahamas



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Condensation on bottom of freezer?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Can you better describe which freezer and exactly where...inside or outside?


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Feb 14, 2018 16:07, "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I'm having a lot of condensation on the bottom of the freezer.  It's winter here in Georgia with humidity in the 60 to 85% range, and temperatures in the 50's and 60's.  Water temp is right there as well.  


Is this normal for the conditions or is there something else I should look for?  We're not running the air conditioning so it's not the condensate pan.


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel owner saying goodbye

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Dear Rafael,

I think you need to tell the Group “your” story about the insurance.

We have the same insurance Helvetia contracted through de Lassee and I really think every Amel owner should know the ridiculous excuses they used to remove 30% of the value of your boat.

It is not “my” place to tell everybody the way they treated “you”, but I will write mine with all the details when it will be settled.

I am definitely sorry that your vessel was destroy soon after you purchased her and did not had the joy of sailing her.

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Wed, 2/14/18, rcavie <no_reply@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel owner saying goodbye
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 1:57 PM


 









Dear friends AMEL ownersProbably this
will be the last email that I send and I will withdraw from
the group. The reason is that Hurricane Irma
destroyed my Amel SM2k and it will be impossible for me to
recover it.The insurance will only pay a fraction of
what it would cost me to buy an equal one. Deductibles and
other reasons.This situation not only destroyed my
ship but my dreams. My dreams of living on board with my
wife, my dreams of crossing the Atlantic to the East, my
dreams of sailing the Mediterranean and perhaps other seas
and finally returning to the beautiful South of
Chile.
In this group I gained friends
and knowledge and for that, I thank each and every one of
you, especially Eric and Alexandre who from the beginning
helped me with their advice.
If
you sail to Chile you will have a friend
here.Greetings to
all
Fair
windsRafaelSM2k 246

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster won't come up

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Way to go! I admire your tenacity. Even though I would have liked to see you in March. I wouldn't have like to see you in March. Get going already.

Best of luck and safe sailing.
Chuck

On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 3:04 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

After taking the control box apart and tracing all the wires down, I finally figured out that we had two problems.  First the "UP" limit switch was dead.


But then after replacing it the actuator that raises and lowers the BT motor would work intermittently.  While testing it Peg and I discovered the positive battery connection to the Helm "ON" switch was corroded.  We replaced that crimp on connector and shined up the switch contact and "Voila!"  we're in business again.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Condensation on bottom of freezer?

Duane Siegfri
 

I'm having a lot of condensation on the bottom of the freezer.  It's winter here in Georgia with humidity in the 60 to 85% range, and temperatures in the 50's and 60's.  Water temp is right there as well.  


Is this normal for the conditions or is there something else I should look for?  We're not running the air conditioning so it's not the condensate pan.


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Bow Thruster won't come up

Duane Siegfri
 

After taking the control box apart and tracing all the wires down, I finally figured out that we had two problems.  First the "UP" limit switch was dead.

But then after replacing it the actuator that raises and lowers the BT motor would work intermittently.  While testing it Peg and I discovered the positive battery connection to the Helm "ON" switch was corroded.  We replaced that crimp on connector and shined up the switch contact and "Voila!"  we're in business again.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Amel owner saying goodbye

Paul Osterberg
 

Very sad story, I hope  you find an other deram to live.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259

Re: Spurs Line cutter

Paul Osterberg
 

Alexandre
Wish I was in the Caribbean, but stuck in Lagos Portugal.Not to bad but longing back to Kerpa and sailing again 
Paul

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] NIKIMAT Illustrations & Parts for sale (SWIM LADDER)

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Eamonn,
No worry about making a ladder in Greece!
Mine is only interesting for people that are in the Caribbean!
Definitely agree with you on the choice of aluminum!
I know about the 2 length available 2.9 or like mine 3.1 meter, but I did not know about the width!
Mine is 40 cm, I wonder if all 3.1 meter are 40 cm!
Also thanks for letting me know the price!

Enjoy your trip!!! Let me know if you come this side of the Atlantic, would love to meet you!
Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Wed, 2/14/18, eamonn.washington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] NIKIMAT Illustrations & Parts for sale (SWIM LADDER)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 5:45 AM


 









Hi Alexander

I
commissioned the fabrication of an aluminum copy in Greece
in January, sorry about that.  I have seen some SM with
stainless steel replacement ladders, which are cheaper to
make but 3 times heavier, so I am sure other SM owners would
be interested in a lightweight original.  Also note, I
discovered that there are 2 different widths; older SM like
mine are 35cm wide, while newer ones are wider (40cm
maybe)?

By the way, it
costs 1050 euro plus VAT including anodising.  They
cannibalized the stainless steel parts from the damaged swim
ladder.

Eamonn
Washington
Travel Bug
SM
151
Cleopatra Marina

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Spurs Line cutter

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Paul,

Here is the invoice for mine:
http://www.nikimat.com/factures/2015_03_18_spurs_2.jpg
Size “B” 1 1/2 “ (1.5 inch)

If you were in the Caribbean, you could purchase my spare for 80% of a new one, also have 5 annual service kit left.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Wed, 2/14/18, @Kerpa [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Spurs Line cutter
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2018, 10:39 AM


 









Hello!My
Spurs Line cutter is broken. I'm not on the boat and
need to know the measurement for ordering a new one,
probably enough with the shaft diameter. Does anyone know
that? Or if anyone know the article number of the
line cutter?
 
Paul on SY
Kerpa SAM#259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Spurs Line cutter

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Pat
Got the info 35 mm size B
Paul

Re: SM stern bumper paint

eljaroellinghoff@...
 

I try it in spring with folie
When it is reddy i will recomande
Best
Elja SM Balu 222

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Spurs Line cutter

eljaroellinghoff@...
 

On SM Balu 222 the diameter is 35 mm

Amel owner saying goodbye

rcavie <no_reply@...>
 

Dear friends AMEL owners

Probably this will be the last email that I send and I will withdraw from the group. 

The reason is that Hurricane Irma destroyed my Amel SM2k and it will be impossible for me to recover it.

The insurance will only pay a fraction of what it would cost me to buy an equal one. Deductibles and other reasons.

This situation not only destroyed my ship but my dreams. My dreams of living on board with my wife, my dreams of crossing the Atlantic to the East, my dreams of sailing the Mediterranean and perhaps other seas and finally returning to the beautiful South of Chile.


In this group I gained friends and knowledge and for that, I thank each and every one of you, especially Eric and Alexandre who from the beginning helped me with their advice.

If you sail to Chile you will have a friend here.

Greetings to all


Fair winds

Rafael

SM2k 246


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Spurs Line cutter

Patrick McAneny
 

Paul, If someone does not provide the info you need, I can stop by your boat  sometime next week and take a measurement for you. 
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Feb 14, 2018 11:42 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Spurs Line cutter

 
Hello!
My Spurs Line cutter is broken. I'm not on the boat and need to know the measurement for ordering a new one, probably enough with the shaft diameter. Does anyone know that? Or if anyone know the article number of the line cutter?
 

Paul on SY Kerpa SAM#259