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JEFFREY KRAUS
 

I can't seem to upload more photos, I'm getting a message saying I exceeded my 10mb limit. Sorry. 


Stem fitting issue

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Good morning Amelians. This could be encountered by early 54 owners. My vessel is #14

Before I made a return trip home from a stay aboard Spirit, I needed some close up photos of the connection of my headsail furler to the stem fitting. Paul from Bamar USA had requested them to determine the existing connection, so the necessary connections could be obtained for the upgrade to the new EJF I was planning to have installed.

In taking the pictures, I noticed a significant bend in the stem fitting. (see photo). I emailed the photo to Paul at Bamar usa  the rigger who was going to do the furler upgrade, and Bill Rouse, and all agreed that the fitting needed replacement.

I had taken the photo right before leaving, and didn't really have an idea what it would entail to do the replacement. That said, the rigger wouldn't get involved with the issue, so I needed to resolve it on my own.

I would have to remove the furler mechanization first, then I could get at the stem fitting to remove it.

My initial concern was to determine how the stem fitting is secured. I emailed Thierry at Amel. In a brief exchange, he sent me a photo of the bow plate of a 54, and the spec sheet for the stem fitting. (see photos). His implication was that it's removal was simply to disconnect the stem fitting from the furler mechanism (bolted thru) and then disconnect from the bow plate (bolted thru). I thought, great, simple enough, 

This is where the fun begins.

First off, as I suspected, the existing bent stem fitting was significantly thinner then the specs on the new one sent by Thierry. (see phots of spec sheet and comparison photos of existing and replacement). I was in NY, and the boat was in Puerto Rico, so I had a measurement take and sent. Existing fitting was 6.5mm thick. If you note on the spec sheet sent by Thierry it calls for a thickness of approx. 20mm. Yikes! no wonder the thing bent. Also, note on the spec sheet that it clearly says "MODIFICATION."

So I had my buddy at Liberty Iron and Steel make me up a replacement. Seeing as he had some 18mm stock on hand, I gave the OK to use that material. I figured it's 3 times thicker, what the hell. It was a good call.

Now look at the side by side photos (see photos). Yikes! 

So I return to Puerto Rico to get it done.

Paul from Bamar USA was great in helping guide me in the removal of the furling mechanism. Having various strength twines to secure loops on the foils and fittings to secure them was very helpful (fisherman/sailors Necessary items).

Now the stem fitting.

Unfortunately, I could see 2 major problems. When the boat was manufactured, the thru deck hole for the fitting was obviously created. It was approx. 12.5mm.(see photo). I emailed Thierry. No response. Seeing as my new fitting was 18mm, it obviously wouldn't fit. The thought of trying to expand the opening with a sawz all, expanding the opening to accommodate the 18mm with a clean and straight hole was not, I felt, a good option.

So I found (with a little help from my friends) a machine shop in Mayaguez, where Jose machined down 2 sides wi8th a 45 degree angle from the 18mm to the 11.25mm section to seat the fitting thru the existing hole (see photos).

The bow plate opening also needed to accommodate the fitting. I needed to use a cutting wheel to trim the bow plate which extended PAST the connection flanges about 1mm., and a sawz all to trim the hole slightly. 

I tapped the fitting in with a rubber mallet, and marinetexed the gaps and edges. (see photo of finished job)

I emailed Thierry explaining my observations and procedures to resolve the issue. No response.

1. The new fitting is 50mm closer to the deck (as per specs) therefore the moment force exerted on the fitting to cause torque bending, is about 1/2 of what it was on the original.

2. Between the increase of 4.75mm in thickness, and the bevel edge spreading the load from the thinner to the 18mm up[per length, I have to say the new fitting is probably at leat 75% stronger.

3. There was a gap on each side of the original fitting (approx. 2.5mm) as it passed thru the opening to be secured to the bow plate. This allowed slight movement, which increases the force on the fitting (F=ma). The snug fit eliminates this, further decreasing the force.

4.This was a bad design and installation from day one. The follow up by Thierry was not good, to be generous. 

The auto industry would expect a recall (LOL!!!!)

5. Note on the spec sheet that the Modification date is 2005. When they changed the production line to create a 20mm opening to accommodate the 20mm stem fitting is anyone's guess. Obviously Thierry wasn't aware of it, or he didn't want to address it.

6. I will include the other photos in follow up photos as I can't seem to download them all here.

Best to all Amelians!

Sail on!


Jeff s/v Spirit Amel 54 #14 Puerto Real, PR





Re: A54 : can I switch from butane to propane? + advise how to sail to Taiwan?

Alan Leslie
 

Hello Oscar,

Our SM was sailed from France through the Pacific with the original blue bottles which were not refillable in New Zealand.
We ditched the blue bottles and bought bottles that are more standard for the South Pacific. In some places we get Butane in others Propane. The Stove is designed for butane but works fine with propane....the oven doesn't get as hot with propane compared with butane, but otherwise no problems.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Cabin AC

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Barry,
Back then it was a short in the compressor…
I had changed the capacitors before but they never trip the main.
Alexandre



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On Fri, 1/18/19, seagasm@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Cabin AC
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 18, 2019, 12:36 AM


 









Thank you Alexandre, when you replaced the
capacitors, did you find that fixed the problem and
didn't trip your mains again.
Barry, TW3










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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A54 : can I switch from butane to propane? + advise how to sail to Taiwan?

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi there,
In 1990-1994 circumnavigation in my first boat I sailed Panama- Marquesas (38days) then Tuamotus, Society Islands, Tonga, NZ, Fiji, Vanuatu, Solomon Islands, Rabaul in New Britain, and then Sailed north in January to Palau and then through Surigao straits to Cebu then we went to Palawan and on to Kota Kinabalu however you would  sail north to Luzon and then on to Taiwan. 
The main thing is to time your cyclone/typhoon seasons. I suggest being in the Solomons in October/November then Christmas near the equator. By which time the northern hemisphere safe sailing season starts, but the area from Palau onwards is never safe from typhoons even in January to April period. I would suggest your ETA in Taiwan should be in March.
Nick
Amelia La Palma (AML-54 hull 019)


On 18 Jan 2019, at 00:47, sv.estran@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

We left France on Sept 1st and we're now in Panama. 

I have two question for you - thank you in advance for your help :


1/ COOKING GAS.


The boat (Amel 54) was bought in France. We always used the blue 2.75kg bottles (i.e BUTANE).

Here in Panama they don't sell BUTANE but Tropigas or Panagas, which is a variable mixture of propane and butane.

Has anyone used one of these mixtures? Does it affects the burners (or anything else)? Do you advise Tropigas or Panagas?

By extension I am also wondering if I could use PROPANE gas or do I have to adapt anything beforehand? 


2/ ITINARY


We're currently in Panama and in one year's time I would like to be in TAIWAN. 

Has anyone sailed there yet? 

What itinary would you advise (starting from Panama)? 

I'm sailing with kids so I'm very reluctant to sail in notorious 'dangerous' areas. I prefer to make a detour than to take the risk of meeting with pirates.

My preference is of course to passe via French Polynesia, but thereafter??


Thank you dear AMEL fellows for your help!


Oscar 

SV ESTRAN - A54 hull n°4



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Freezer Insulation

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Alan, yes we don't have the dishwasher, a second fridge replaced that space. However the plumbing is still there and I will check the clothes washer plumbing.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean pearl

On 18 January 2019 at 13:07 "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

And also the water connection to the dishwasher...we had that.


Danny, one thing to bear in mind , it doesn't matter whether or not you've used the washing machine, the pressure water is still connected to it. Same with the dishwasher, but I seem to remember you don't have that?

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Cabin AC

seagasm@...
 

Thank you Alexandre, when you replaced the capacitors, did you find that fixed the problem and didn't trip your mains again.

Barry, TW3


seals and bottom paint...

eric freedman
 

Hi Bill,

When I first took delivery of Kimberlite, I was rather anal about bottom painting and maintenance of the bow thruster and C drive seals. I painted the bottom and changed all the seals etc. every year for about 10 years. As you mentioned, Amel in LA Rochelle mentioned the screwdriver method to remove the seals. I have always done it with a big 20 inch long screwdriver and the seals pop out like magic.

You must be careful about the orientation of the tip of the blade. However if done correctly the long screwdriver does a wonderful job.

.

Just as a point of interest, I always used Ablative paint and sanded between coats. Last year the bottom was looking rather rough.

After about 14 coats of bottom paint it was time to remove it all  . Just so I would not harm the gelcoat, and media blast,  I had the yard use a chemical stripper to get back down to gelcoat. It required 13 gallons of paint stripper.

 

We decided to weigh the paint that was removed. It filled 2 very large drums weighing a total exceeding 300 pounds of old paint.

I guess I will have to lower the boot stripe.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 7:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Since we are talking about seals...

 

 

Bill 

 

I read your seal write-up and recognized NIKIMAT's bow thruster photo with an added "red don't do X."

 

I have found that there is usually more than one good way to perform almost every procedure. There are many Amel owners that use the screw method that was illustrated by Alex. I certainly don't intend to debate which is the best method and I don't believe anyone in this group is uniquely qualified to do so.

 

When I audited Amel workers removing C-Drive seals, they placed the flat tip screwdriver under a seal at 9 o'clock and the other side of the screwdriver at 3 o'clock. Then levered the seals out one at a time. I asked for a printed copy of the Amel instructions and discovered those exact instructions using a screwdriver. A month later, I had the opportunity to try it and found it worked perfectly.

 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
My calendar: 
https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html

 

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 9:57 AM Paul Stascavage pstas2003@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:

 

Bill,

Thanks for taking the time to do this write up. It was very informative and very well done. The link to the seal puller tool was greatly appreciated.

Your contributions as well as all the other seasoned owners and former owners on this forum are greatly appreciated.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM 466 S/V Rita Kathryn
St Augustine, Florida


Solar Panels Panama

sv.estran@...
 

Hello,

Has anyone installed solar panels on his/her boat in Panama? Could you please share your contacts?

Kind regards,

Oscar


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Cabin AC

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Barry,

No .pdf but may be the illustration I did will help you as I labeled some of the wiring.

http://www.nikimat.com/air_conditioning_climma_marine_compact_9_eh.html

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Thu, 1/17/19, seagasm@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Frigoboat Cabin AC
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 17, 2019, 6:39 PM


 









Does anyone have a PDF file relating to
the Frigoboat Cabin Air Conditioner installed in SM's,
particularly late 1990 - early 2000. The unit installed in
TW3 I believe is Schematic Split 4-6-8 with FC Evaporator.
In particular, any electrical wiring diagram or, anyone who
knows where I can obtain this information. I believe a
capacitor has failed and I am not sure where to start
looking.
Thank
youBarry & RobynTradewinds III SM
#171


A54 : can I switch from butane to propane? + advise how to sail to Taiwan?

sv.estran@...
 

Hello,

We left France on Sept 1st and we're now in Panama. 

I have two question for you - thank you in advance for your help :


1/ COOKING GAS.


The boat (Amel 54) was bought in France. We always used the blue 2.75kg bottles (i.e BUTANE).

Here in Panama they don't sell BUTANE but Tropigas or Panagas, which is a variable mixture of propane and butane.

Has anyone used one of these mixtures? Does it affects the burners (or anything else)? Do you advise Tropigas or Panagas?

By extension I am also wondering if I could use PROPANE gas or do I have to adapt anything beforehand? 


2/ ITINARY


We're currently in Panama and in one year's time I would like to be in TAIWAN. 

Has anyone sailed there yet? 

What itinary would you advise (starting from Panama)? 

I'm sailing with kids so I'm very reluctant to sail in notorious 'dangerous' areas. I prefer to make a detour than to take the risk of meeting with pirates.

My preference is of course to passe via French Polynesia, but thereafter??


Thank you dear AMEL fellows for your help!


Oscar 

SV ESTRAN - A54 hull n°4



Frigoboat Cabin AC

seagasm@...
 

Does anyone have a PDF file relating to the Frigoboat Cabin Air Conditioner installed in SM's, particularly late 1990 - early 2000. The unit installed in TW3 I believe is Schematic Split 4-6-8 with FC Evaporator. In particular, any electrical wiring diagram or, anyone who knows where I can obtain this information. I believe a capacitor has failed and I am not sure where to start looking.

Thank you
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM #171



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Since we are talking about seals...

 

Bill 

I read your seal write-up and recognized NIKIMAT's bow thruster photo with an added "red don't do X."

I have found that there is usually more than one good way to perform almost every procedure. There are many Amel owners that use the screw method that was illustrated by Alex. I certainly don't intend to debate which is the best method and I don't believe anyone in this group is uniquely qualified to do so.

When I audited Amel workers removing C-Drive seals, they placed the flat tip screwdriver under a seal at 9 o'clock and the other side of the screwdriver at 3 o'clock. Then levered the seals out one at a time. I asked for a printed copy of the Amel instructions and discovered those exact instructions using a screwdriver. A month later, I had the opportunity to try it and found it worked perfectly.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
My calendar: 
https://theamelschool.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 9:57 AM Paul Stascavage pstas2003@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... wrote:
 

Bill,

Thanks for taking the time to do this write up. It was very informative and very well done. The link to the seal puller tool was greatly appreciated.

Your contributions as well as all the other seasoned owners and former owners on this forum are greatly appreciated.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM 466 S/V Rita Kathryn
St Augustine, Florida



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Freezer Insulation

Alan Leslie
 

And also the water connection to the dishwasher...we had that.

Danny, one thing to bear in mind , it doesn't matter whether or not you've used the washing machine, the pressure water is still connected to it. Same with the dishwasher, but I seem to remember you don't have that?

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Freezer Insulation

 

Danny,

Check the weird looking freshwater pipe/hose fitting near the floor behind the clothes washer. It is a filter and hose coupling. I had it start leaking. it is #5 on my list. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:14 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Bill,

I shall search on. Hardly use the aircon, haven't used the clothes washer in a while, done a fairly good first look at the under sink piping but there is a slight leak in the water system somewhere as the pump isn't holding pressure like it used to. That could be anywhere but the accumulation suggests a central point.

Thanks again and wishing you and Judy all the best for the year ahead.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl

On 18 January 2019 at 11:29 "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Danny,

Most common sources in order are:
  1. Cracked condensation plastic collection box on Salon AC
  2. Partially clogged AC condensation drain
  3. Cracked galley sink spray handle near the hose connection
  4. Partially clogged Clothes Washer drain
  5. Leaking fresh water connection to the clothes washer
  6. Leaking drain under the sink
  7. Leaking freshwater pipes/hoses under the sink
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:48 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

 

Hi Duane,

from the comments by my frig tech your experience is far more common than mine, he indicated I was all but unique so I am the lucky one. I gathered from him that often, mostly it was bilge water sloshing around that causes the problem and I have never had water sloshing around under my freezer.........until today. Just goes to show, never say never. Fresh water at that. I have yet to discover the source but I suspect a very slow accumulation. My water tank has not been full (the breather exits to this area) and I cant see any leaks in the fresh water system under the sink.This area connects. Haven't been using the aircon much, just a bit of running to keep them functioning. Freezer water cooling feed line?

I shall find it!!

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand

On 17 January 2019 at 01:33 " sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
 

Danny,


Thanks for the reply.  I can't imagine another reason.  The insulation is soaked around and above that insulation bottom to wall joint, and the insulation was pourous and cracked.  It wasn't wet above the joint very far.  If it were the seal leaking cold air then the wet would start at the top.

I guess I'm just lucky.

Duane

 

 


 


 

 

 

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Freezer Insulation

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Bill,

I shall search on. Hardly use the aircon, haven't used the clothes washer in a while, done a fairly good first look at the under sink piping but there is a slight leak in the water system somewhere as the pump isn't holding pressure like it used to. That could be anywhere but the accumulation suggests a central point.

Thanks again and wishing you and Judy all the best for the year ahead.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean pearl

On 18 January 2019 at 11:29 "Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Danny,

Most common sources in order are:
  1. Cracked condensation plastic collection box on Salon AC
  2. Partially clogged AC condensation drain
  3. Cracked galley sink spray handle near the hose connection
  4. Partially clogged Clothes Washer drain
  5. Leaking fresh water connection to the clothes washer
  6. Leaking drain under the sink
  7. Leaking freshwater pipes/hoses under the sink
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:48 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

 

Hi Duane,

from the comments by my frig tech your experience is far more common than mine, he indicated I was all but unique so I am the lucky one. I gathered from him that often, mostly it was bilge water sloshing around that causes the problem and I have never had water sloshing around under my freezer.........until today. Just goes to show, never say never. Fresh water at that. I have yet to discover the source but I suspect a very slow accumulation. My water tank has not been full (the breather exits to this area) and I cant see any leaks in the fresh water system under the sink.This area connects. Haven't been using the aircon much, just a bit of running to keep them functioning. Freezer water cooling feed line?

I shall find it!!

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand

On 17 January 2019 at 01:33 " sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
 

Danny,


Thanks for the reply.  I can't imagine another reason.  The insulation is soaked around and above that insulation bottom to wall joint, and the insulation was pourous and cracked.  It wasn't wet above the joint very far.  If it were the seal leaking cold air then the wet would start at the top.

I guess I'm just lucky.

Duane

 

 


 


 

 

 

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Freezer Insulation

 

Danny,

Most common sources in order are:
  1. Cracked condensation plastic collection box on Salon AC
  2. Partially clogged AC condensation drain
  3. Cracked galley sink spray handle near the hose connection
  4. Partially clogged Clothes Washer drain
  5. Leaking fresh water connection to the clothes washer
  6. Leaking drain under the sink
  7. Leaking freshwater pipes/hoses under the sink
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:48 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Duane,

from the comments by my frig tech your experience is far more common than mine, he indicated I was all but unique so I am the lucky one. I gathered from him that often, mostly it was bilge water sloshing around that causes the problem and I have never had water sloshing around under my freezer.........until today. Just goes to show, never say never. Fresh water at that. I have yet to discover the source but I suspect a very slow accumulation. My water tank has not been full (the breather exits to this area) and I cant see any leaks in the fresh water system under the sink.This area connects. Haven't been using the aircon much, just a bit of running to keep them functioning. Freezer water cooling feed line?

I shall find it!!

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand

On 17 January 2019 at 01:33 "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
 

Danny,


Thanks for the reply.  I can't imagine another reason.  The insulation is soaked around and above that insulation bottom to wall joint, and the insulation was pourous and cracked.  It wasn't wet above the joint very far.  If it were the seal leaking cold air then the wet would start at the top.

I guess I'm just lucky.

Duane

 


 


 


New Member Addition Request

Julie Bradley <redjuliebradley@...>
 

Hello Mark,  Will you please add mt husband Glen to the Yahoo Amel Group? His email address is  gjbradley1@...   It seems heavily weighed with maintenance, circuitry and electronics issues and he's your man.  Many thanks,  Julie 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Member Addition Request

Mark Erdos
 

H Julie,

 

The yahoo group format prevents me from adding members myself (go figure). Glen can add his own email to the group and I, or one of the other moderators, will approve it.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 5:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...; Glen Bradley
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Member Addition Request

 

 

Hello Mark,  Will you please add mt husband Glen to the Yahoo Amel Group? His email address is  gjbradley1@...   It seems heavily weighed with maintenance, circuitry and electronics issues and he's your man.  Many thanks,  Julie 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main Sail Furling Motor Issue

Duane Siegfri
 

Chuck,

I had a few minutes and went looking for the parts on the forum.  Here's what I found:

For the Manual Mainsail Furler:
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Bearings: Source , Motion Industries - Tapered bearing item # 32009xm-90kmi   , Bore 45mm, OD. 75mm, Width 20mm , Manufacturer Timken

Ball Bearing , item # 9105k Bore 25mm, OD. 47mm, Width 12mm  Manufacturer Fafnir 

Oil Seals : Source , Metric Seals Inc. 45mmX60mmX7mm    25mmX33mm X6mm  

You will need one each of bearings and seals

Pat

SM Shenanigans

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If you find the seals and bearings for the motorized gearbox you might post them.  


Duane

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