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Re: Running back stays on A54

Laurens Vos
 

Hi Arno,

Thanks for sharing your solution regarding the backstays.
Will try it out. But even with this solution one need to still go out the cockpit to unhook the hanging hook. 

Bill’s solution could be also working well but I’m afraid there will be too much stretch to give the mast a good support. 


Regards 
Laurens Vos 
Fun@Sea A54-92


Galley refrigerator not cooling

Slavko Despotovic
 

Coming back to the boat I find refrigerator not cooling. I can hear fun running and compressor as well. But the plate not cold.
I do not have any instructions on board for the refrigerator. On my previous boat this was a signal that gas has to be filled i. What kind of the gas is on 1999 models of SM? How difficult is to get to the  compressor to fill the gas. Or maybe is the thermostat. How can I test that one?
Thank you for help.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279


Re: Output on SM

Eloi Bamberg
 

Hallo,
I have something similar on mine. If you have some sort of "marine computer" on yours, il should be the connection for a second screen of this computer.

Eloi,
Red Lion
SM426


Re: Engine Vibration

James Alton
 

Ian,

   Lots of possibilities here and the experts on the BB will help.  Just adding that especially since work was done not too long ago to check all of the pertinent fasteners to be sure that nothing has worked itself loose.

Best of luck,

James
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Aug 26, 2020, at 12:29 PM, Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:

My Prima M50 is vibrating badly at the rear (end furthest from the C Drive). It’s OK below 1800 rpm.
All the engine And transmission mounts were replaced in Martinique in 2018 and the engine re-aligned.
I am assuming one of the rear mounts has failed. Is there anything else that can cause this vibration?
I had refurbished injectors fitted before setting off at the beginning of August and I have re-bled them to ensure no air locks.
Is my suspicion of a failed engine mount(s) most likely?


Re: Running back stays on A54

Peter Forbes
 


Joel,

We will meet for sure - keep in touch.

I can’t sell my Amel 54 I love her too much.

Peter 


On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 at 18:12, amelforme <jfpottercys@...> wrote:

Peter, I’ll send you that 20 quid I promised.

 

Sorry that it looks like our pub lunch in the splendid English summertime will have to wait another year.

 

Everybody say a prayer for Bill Rouse. Hurricane Laura may not be kind to Galveston Texas tonight.

 

All the best,

Joel

 

           JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C.

                                         The Experienced AMEL Guy

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Forbes
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 3:41 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Running back stays on A54

 

Arno,

 

Good solution for the running backstays, I use mine a lot because I love flying the staysail, and much like my own.

 

I agree entirely I wouldn’t want to be a member of a club which would have me as a member but this forum is, in my opinion, excellent thanks to so many great Amel sailors topped off by the brilliance of Bill Rouse and Joel Potter.

 

peter

Peter Forbes

The Old Rectory 

Farnham

Blandford

DT11 8 DE

00447836 209730

07836 209730



On 25 Aug 2020, at 23:21, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:

The way my running backstays are rigged seems fairly handy to me.

The backstay is made from aramide/kevlar sheet with extreme little stretch. When not in use the sheet comes down from the mast to a little piece of string tied to the end of the Genua-rail ( see picture1). Originally it was just tied, but I put an old fashioned hanking hook from an old jib to the piece of string so I can click it over the backstay. Storing it like this means it is out of the way when walking on the side-deck.

<Picture1.png>



From there the backstay runs to the back of the boat to a block at the same place as where the Genua-sheet turning block resides. See picture 2 (best I have)

<Picture2.png>



Directly after the block there is a knot in the backstay, so it cannot escape the block.
When you want to use the staysail in stronger winds (12+ knots) you unhook the hanking hook and pull the knot at the end of the backstay untill you can use the tail to put it on the small winch. Pull the backstay tight with a little tension on it, using the winch. Now  you can deploy the staysail. The sheet for the staysail will use the winch at the other side so there is no conflict at winch utilization. You don't use the lee-side backstay as it can/will rub the main sail.


Hope this is clear....

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna
A54-121









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Best wishes
Peter Forbes
+44 (0) 7836 209730


Re: Running back stays on A54

amelforme
 

Peter, I’ll send you that 20 quid I promised.

 

Sorry that it looks like our pub lunch in the splendid English summertime will have to wait another year.

 

Everybody say a prayer for Bill Rouse. Hurricane Laura may not be kind to Galveston Texas tonight.

 

All the best,

Joel

 

           JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C.

                                         The Experienced AMEL Guy

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                  Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Forbes
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 3:41 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Running back stays on A54

 

Arno,

 

Good solution for the running backstays, I use mine a lot because I love flying the staysail, and much like my own.

 

I agree entirely I wouldn’t want to be a member of a club which would have me as a member but this forum is, in my opinion, excellent thanks to so many great Amel sailors topped off by the brilliance of Bill Rouse and Joel Potter.

 

peter

Peter Forbes

The Old Rectory 

Farnham

Blandford

DT11 8 DE

00447836 209730

07836 209730



On 25 Aug 2020, at 23:21, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:

The way my running backstays are rigged seems fairly handy to me.

The backstay is made from aramide/kevlar sheet with extreme little stretch. When not in use the sheet comes down from the mast to a little piece of string tied to the end of the Genua-rail ( see picture1). Originally it was just tied, but I put an old fashioned hanking hook from an old jib to the piece of string so I can click it over the backstay. Storing it like this means it is out of the way when walking on the side-deck.

<Picture1.png>



From there the backstay runs to the back of the boat to a block at the same place as where the Genua-sheet turning block resides. See picture 2 (best I have)

<Picture2.png>



Directly after the block there is a knot in the backstay, so it cannot escape the block.
When you want to use the staysail in stronger winds (12+ knots) you unhook the hanking hook and pull the knot at the end of the backstay untill you can use the tail to put it on the small winch. Pull the backstay tight with a little tension on it, using the winch. Now  you can deploy the staysail. The sheet for the staysail will use the winch at the other side so there is no conflict at winch utilization. You don't use the lee-side backstay as it can/will rub the main sail.


Hope this is clear....

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna
A54-121


Re: Engine Vibration

Arno Luijten
 

Is the vibration both present in Neutral and in Gear?

Given the fact they have been working on the injectors it could be one of the cylinders not firing at higher RPMs. Did the phenomenon started out of the blue or after after some work done to the engine/transmission.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Engine Vibration

 

The Vetus Coupling may be failing and/or the alignment may have been done incorrectly. Did they use a fixed coupling alignment tool?


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On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:33 AM Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:
Sorry, failed to put my name etc.

Ian
’Ocean Hobo’ Santorin 96 currently in the Scilly Isles.


Re: Running back stays on A54

Porter McRoberts
 

Thank you Joerg. 
Great description. I’m going to try it out!  
Really appreciated 

Porter

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS 
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Aug 26, 2020, at 3:55 AM, Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry@...> wrote:


Thank's Arno,
Really appreciate your post with explanation and photos.
I get so much from this forum.

Very Best

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique


On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:36:32 AM EDT, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313@...> wrote:


About 1.5 m above the block and tackle used to store the runners.  I would start by using duct tape to tape some old line to the runners and see whether it makes a difference.  You are correct that it’s not possible to get those knots back out once you have used the runners with them in earnest.  


Joerg


Re: Engine Vibration

Ian Park
 

Sorry, failed to put my name etc.

Ian
’Ocean Hobo’ Santorin 96 currently in the Scilly Isles.


Engine Vibration

Ian Park
 

My Prima M50 is vibrating badly at the rear (end furthest from the C Drive). It’s OK below 1800 rpm.
All the engine And transmission mounts were replaced in Martinique in 2018 and the engine re-aligned.
I am assuming one of the rear mounts has failed. Is there anything else that can cause this vibration?
I had refurbished injectors fitted before setting off at the beginning of August and I have re-bled them to ensure no air locks.
Is my suspicion of a failed engine mount(s) most likely?


Re: Running back stays on A54

Barry Connor
 

Thank's Arno,
Really appreciate your post with explanation and photos.
I get so much from this forum.

Very Best

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54.  #17
Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique


On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, 9:36:32 AM EDT, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313@...> wrote:


About 1.5 m above the block and tackle used to store the runners.  I would start by using duct tape to tape some old line to the runners and see whether it makes a difference.  You are correct that it’s not possible to get those knots back out once you have used the runners with them in earnest.  


Joerg


Re: Running back stays on A54

Joerg Esdorn
 

About 1.5 m above the block and tackle used to store the runners.  I would start by using duct tape to tape some old line to the runners and see whether it makes a difference.  You are correct that it’s not possible to get those knots back out once you have used the runners with them in earnest.  


Joerg


Re: Running back stays on A54

Peter Forbes
 

Arno,

Good solution for the running backstays, I use mine a lot because I love flying the staysail, and much like my own.

I agree entirely I wouldn’t want to be a member of a club which would have me as a member but this forum is, in my opinion, excellent thanks to so many great Amel sailors topped off by the brilliance of Bill Rouse and Joel Potter.

peter
Peter Forbes
The Old Rectory 
Farnham
Blandford
DT11 8 DE
00447836 209730
07836 209730

On 25 Aug 2020, at 23:21, Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:

The way my running backstays are rigged seems fairly handy to me.

The backstay is made from aramide/kevlar sheet with extreme little stretch. When not in use the sheet comes down from the mast to a little piece of string tied to the end of the Genua-rail ( see picture1). Originally it was just tied, but I put an old fashioned hanking hook from an old jib to the piece of string so I can click it over the backstay. Storing it like this means it is out of the way when walking on the side-deck.

<Picture1.png>


From there the backstay runs to the back of the boat to a block at the same place as where the Genua-sheet turning block resides. See picture 2 (best I have)

<Picture2.png>


Directly after the block there is a knot in the backstay, so it cannot escape the block.
When you want to use the staysail in stronger winds (12+ knots) you unhook the hanking hook and pull the knot at the end of the backstay untill you can use the tail to put it on the small winch. Pull the backstay tight with a little tension on it, using the winch. Now  you can deploy the staysail. The sheet for the staysail will use the winch at the other side so there is no conflict at winch utilization. You don't use the lee-side backstay as it can/will rub the main sail.


Hope this is clear....

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna
A54-121


Re: Amel Club

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Joerg,

First time I visited this site I thought it was kind of "empty" but I notice the added quite some contents now. I find it quite slow though. This is my favorite from the club 😉



For some reason when it's about clubs I always have to think about Groucho Marx and his remark "I don't want to be member of a club that wants me as a member", so maybe this is why I forgot about it lately.
Thanks for reminding me.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Running back stays on A54

Arno Luijten
 

The way my running backstays are rigged seems fairly handy to me.

The backstay is made from aramide/kevlar sheet with extreme little stretch. When not in use the sheet comes down from the mast to a little piece of string tied to the end of the Genua-rail ( see picture1). Originally it was just tied, but I put an old fashioned hanking hook from an old jib to the piece of string so I can click it over the backstay. Storing it like this means it is out of the way when walking on the side-deck.



From there the backstay runs to the back of the boat to a block at the same place as where the Genua-sheet turning block resides. See picture 2 (best I have)



Directly after the block there is a knot in the backstay, so it cannot escape the block.
When you want to use the staysail in stronger winds (12+ knots) you unhook the hanking hook and pull the knot at the end of the backstay untill you can use the tail to put it on the small winch. Pull the backstay tight with a little tension on it, using the winch. Now  you can deploy the staysail. The sheet for the staysail will use the winch at the other side so there is no conflict at winch utilization. You don't use the lee-side backstay as it can/will rub the main sail.


Hope this is clear....

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna
A54-121


Amel Club

Joerg Esdorn
 

Seeing yesterday's post by Bill Rouse  of the Amel article about runners reminded me that some of you might not know about the Amel Club website which contains that article as well as many other useful ones.  The focus of the website is the A55, A64 and A54.  I received an email from Amel about the club in 2016 when I bought my A55 but I suspect not all current owners of A55s and A54s may know about the club.  Here is the link to the website http://club-amel.fr/login/?redirect_to=http%3a%2f%2fclub-amel.fr%2fhome-community.  You can change the language to English and most articles are bi-lingual.   I also attach copies of some of the articles on the website which I downloaded because I thought I might find them useful sometime.  I hope those help but they may have been updated since I downloaded them and there are probably others.  Cheers!

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Vigo, Spain


Re: Running back stays on A54

Porter McRoberts
 

Joerg 
Thank you for the suggestion. 
I’ll try it, but knowing those knots will never come out I want to make sure I’ve got them in the right place. How far up the back stay from the snatch block is the knot?  

Many thanks
Porter A54-152

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS 
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Aug 25, 2020, at 6:01 AM, David Crisp <david@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill,

The two blocks, great suggestion, I like it.
--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58


Re: Mainsail jammed when furling on A54

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi David;

 

I personally would not give up on the battens. I believe that they do add shape and performance. We have not had any issues in the past 5 years, and we have sailed, furled and unfurled in conditions up to force 9 in the Med about 5 months every year. We even did a winter season, which we will not voluntarily repeat. Our sails are original (now going on 12 years) and they look, feel and work fine. We may just add a foot line to the genoa as we seem have to have some stretch there.

 

We wash, dry and remove all sails and battens and store below at the end of every season. We keep the cabins dry by installing water accumulators in all areas. The bags are usually full to almost bursting by the time we get back at the start of the following season

 

We inspect the sails, make needed repairs and check the battens for any damage, twist, etc.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Crisp via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 8:58 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mainsail jammed when furling on A54

 

Thanks everyone.  The advice is consistent and fully absorbed!  My sails are only 4 years old and in good shape. Suspect I simply didn't have adequate outhaul tension / good boom angle. 

The day I have to get new sails I'll consider going without battens and hence no roach and lower performance. My racing days are over but then you know how it is when another boat is sailing close by, the old twitch and tweak kicks in..... :-)   Seriously, I'll not leapt to conclusions until I've got a lot more miles under my belt. It is probably a case of building good habits. I have faith in Amel design.
--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58


Re: Running back stays on A54

David Crisp
 

Thanks Bill,

The two blocks, great suggestion, I like it.
--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58