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Replacing standing rigging

Mike Ondra
 

Aletes SM#240 1999 is also facing the re-rigging decision. Various people and sources on internet search suggest wire rigging service life of 16, 12, or even 6 years. Most recommendations are by those with vested interest in replacements, ie. riggers and wire manufacturers. I have seen a Coast Guard report relating to failures on commercial catamarans in Hawaii that talk about 10 years. Finally I checked with our insurance agent. I figure if any entity has skin in the game (other than the boat owner/occupants) it would be the insurance industry. Our agent was quick to say that the insurance carriers are OK with standing rigging up to 20 years. Thereafter they will require detailed rigging inspections (not just looking up from the deck) every 2 to 5 years (depending on the insurer). This seems like a reasonable and reasoned way to address the aging rigging question and for me was comforting relative to the somewhat arbitrary nature of the shorter lifespan recommendations.

 

So. Here we are with an 18 year old boat that in Amel terms I would consider lightly used (probably less than 12 months total in the open ocean). We are looking at a $13K investment with Gaetan at Caraibe Marine, possibly later this month. This is not quite a case of “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” but it does feel like, if a  thorough inspection does not identify any problems, why replace a perfectly good rig, especially one this robust.

 

Anyway, we are leaning towards doing it. There seems to be no way to evaluate investing $13K in the equation of risk v. peace of mind.

 

Thoughts welcome.

 

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240 Falmouth, Antigua

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 11:48 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Riggers In Trinidad and Martinique

 

 

I've been in the group a while but don't often access it.  I' finishing up a circumnavigation and planning to replace the rigging on my 1995 Super Maramu.  It looks great to me, but it is 22 years old.  I have three quotes from different riggers in different countries. The costs vary greatly for both labor and parts, but especially labor.  I have included a summary of the quotes below broken down by labor and parts.  All quotes are for 316 stainless steel and includes all turnbuckles and upper eye pieces.  My question to this forum is whether any of you have knowledge of Jason Romell in Trinidad.  I've had good reports on Gaetan of Caraibe Marine  in Martinique who is recommended by the local Amel office.   Romell is recommended by Peake Yachts in Trinidad where my boat is on the hard.  I include these details since it may help other owners thinking of re-rigging.  BTW, one owner not ed that he was told by Gaetan that he had never seen an Amel with a failed rig.  I provide the costs in Euros and US Dollars converted at a rate of 1.19 US dollars per Euro.  

 

 

Quote From  

          Euro              Labor

          Euro            Parts

        Euro          Total

    Dollars      Total

Trinidad - Jason Romell

1,513

6,607

8,119

$9662

Martinique - Caraibe Marine

3,429

8,106

11,535

$13,726

Seattle - Northwest Rigging

8,580

9,552

18,132

$21,577

Seattle Higher Than Trinidad By

150%

18%

57%

57%

Martinique Higher Than Trinidad By

127%

23%

42%

42%

NW Higher Than Trinidad By

467%

45%

123%

123%


I am trending toward the less expensive quote from Trinidad contingent on meeting Jason on Friday.  But I'm very tempted to go for the more expensive quote from Martinique given the recommendation form Amel.   Ken Powers had Aquarius rigged in Martinique last year and was quite happy.  

 

Any comments appreciated.  Happy New Year to all!

 

Bill Shaproski

S/V Pacific Cool

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Riggers In Trinidad and Martinique

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

who does ONAN PCB board repairs?

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Dear Amelians,
I had to buy a new PCB board for my ONAN generator which finally seems to work fine for more than just a couple days...
I kept my old board, hoping to find someone who knows how to analyze faults and eventually repair this rather expensive part and then keep it as a spare.
So does anyone of you know somebody who could do this work?
Best regards,
Alex, SY NO STRESS
AMEL54 #15

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Riggers In Trinidad and Martinique

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Bill,

Thanks for the information.

As you know, not all rigging wire is created equal, and rigging wire is made in metric and inch dimensions. I noted that you did not specify, but I am fairly sure that the rigging wire available in Seattle and possibly Trinidad are inch. My experience is that when riggers use inch dimensions, they use slightly smaller wire than the original metric dimensions than Amel uses.

Additionally, Chinese stainless steel is popping up everywhere. Did you ask for a certificate of origin or some other proof of country of manufacture? Also, I have seen many riggers use existing Amel rigging parts when re-rigging an Amel because they cannot source some parts, especially the small turnbuckle on the forestay.

Over the years I have seen many marine suppliers cave into the price pressure placed on them and when people only compare prices. Many of these suppliers give their customers what they ask for...the lowest price without regard to quality. The best examples of this are the very low quality products offered by Worst Marine.

Lastly, I am familiar with a Super Maramu owner that used the wrong rigger, who used bad materials about a year ago. He is going to sail to Martinique to have everything replaced again. Martinique isn't the only good place to replace Amel SM rigging, but they certainly are the most experienced on this side of the Atlantic. I have a quote from them done in 2016 for 9032.34 Euro. I am going to write Gaetan and ask what the difference is. I will CC you of the email.

I believe that you are on the right track, but there are other variables that you need to address in your comparisons.

Your current rigging lasted 22 years and on a recent circumnavigation. There has to be a reason that Amel OEM rigging outlasts other rigging by almost two times the norm. The OEM rigging is available in kit form and ready to install from ACMO, the OEM supplier to Amel for your boat. The kit includes everything down to the washers. Email philippe"at"acmo.fr

I hope this helps you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 10:48 AM, pacificcool@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I've been in the group a while but don't often access it.  I' finishing up a circumnavigation and planning to replace the rigging on my 1995 Super Maramu.  It looks great to me, but it is 22 years old.  I have three quotes from different riggers in different countries. The costs vary greatly for both labor and parts, but especially labor.  I have included a summary of the quotes below broken down by labor and parts.  All quotes are for 316 stainless steel and includes all turnbuckles and upper eye pieces.  My question to this forum is whether any of you have knowledge of Jason Romell in Trinidad.  I've had good reports on Gaetan of Caraibe Marine  in Martinique who is recommended by the local Amel office.   Romell is recommended by Peake Yachts in Trinidad where my boat is on the hard.  I include these details since it may help other owners thinking of re-rigging.  BTW, one owner noted that he was told by Gaetan that he had never seen an Amel with a failed rig.  I provide the costs in Euros and US Dollars converted at a rate of 1.19 US dollars per Euro.  



Quote From             Euro              Labor           Euro            Parts         Euro          Total     Dollars      Total
Trinidad - Jason Romell 1,513 6,607 8,119 $9662
Martinique - Caraibe Marine 3,429 8,106 11,535 $13,726
Seattle - Northwest Rigging 8,580 9,552 18,132 $21,577
Seattle Higher Than Trinidad By 150% 18% 57% 57%
Martinique Higher Than Trinidad By 127% 23% 42% 42%
NW Higher Than Trinidad By 467% 45% 123% 123%

I am trending toward the less expensive quote from Trinidad contingent on meeting Jason on Friday.  But I'm very tempted to go for the more expensive quote from Martinique given the recommendation form Amel.   Ken Powers had Aquarius rigged in Martinique last year and was quite happy.  

Any comments appreciated.  Happy New Year to all!

Bill Shaproski
S/V Pacific Cool





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Riggers In Trinidad and Martinique

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I would go with Amel in Martinique.
I wouldn't be surprised 95% of the people pick the same choice.
They do rigging on Amel all the time - therefore make sure to be there and supervise...

Alexandre



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On Tue, 1/2/18, pacificcool@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Riggers In Trinidad and Martinique
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, January 2, 2018, 10:48 AM


 









I've been in the group a while but
don't often access it.  I' finishing up a
circumnavigation and planning to replace the rigging on my
1995 Super Maramu.  It looks great to me, but it is 22
years old.  I have three quotes from different riggers in
different countries. The costs vary greatly for both labor
and parts, but especially labor.  I have included a summary
of the quotes below broken down by labor and parts.  All
quotes are for 316 stainless steel and includes all
turnbuckles and upper eye pieces.  My question to this
forum is whether any of you have knowledge of Jason Romell
in Trinidad.  I've had good reports on Gaetan of
Caraibe Marine  in Martinique who is recommended by the
local Amel office.   Romell is recommended by Peake Yachts
in Trinidad where my boat is on the hard.  I include these
details since it may help other owners thinking of
re-rigging.  BTW, one owner noted that he was told by
Gaetan that he had never seen an Amel with a failed rig.  I
provide the costs in Euros and US Dollars converted at a
rate of 1.19 US dollars per Euro.  

Quote
From            Euro         
    Labor          Euro         
  Parts        Euro         
Total    Dollars     
TotalTrinidad - Jason
Romell1,5136,6078,119$9662Martinique -
Caraibe Marine3,4298,10611,535$13,726Seattle -
Northwest Rigging8,5809,55218,132$21,577Seattle Higher
Than Trinidad By150%18%57%57%Martinique
Higher
Than Trinidad By127%23%42%42%NW Higher
Than Trinidad By467%45%123%123%
I am trending toward the less expensive quote
from Trinidad contingent on meeting Jason on Friday.  But
I'm very tempted to go for the more expensive quote from
Martinique given the recommendation form Amel.   Ken
Powers had Aquarius rigged in Martinique last year and was
quite happy.  
Any
comments appreciated.  Happy New Year to all!
Bill ShaproskiS/V Pacific
Cool

Riggers In Trinidad and Martinique

Bill Shaproski
 

I've been in the group a while but don't often access it.  I' finishing up a circumnavigation and planning to replace the rigging on my 1995 Super Maramu.  It looks great to me, but it is 22 years old.  I have three quotes from different riggers in different countries. The costs vary greatly for both labor and parts, but especially labor.  I have included a summary of the quotes below broken down by labor and parts.  All quotes are for 316 stainless steel and includes all turnbuckles and upper eye pieces.  My question to this forum is whether any of you have knowledge of Jason Romell in Trinidad.  I've had good reports on Gaetan of Caraibe Marine  in Martinique who is recommended by the local Amel office.   Romell is recommended by Peake Yachts in Trinidad where my boat is on the hard.  I include these details since it may help other owners thinking of re-rigging.  BTW, one owner noted that he was told by Gaetan that he had never seen an Amel with a failed rig.  I provide the costs in Euros and US Dollars converted at a rate of 1.19 US dollars per Euro.  



Quote From             Euro              Labor           Euro            Parts         Euro          Total     Dollars      Total
Trinidad - Jason Romell 1,513 6,607 8,119 $9662
Martinique - Caraibe Marine 3,429 8,106 11,535 $13,726
Seattle - Northwest Rigging 8,580 9,552 18,132 $21,577
Seattle Higher Than Trinidad By 150% 18% 57% 57%
Martinique Higher Than Trinidad By 127% 23% 42% 42%
NW Higher Than Trinidad By 467% 45% 123% 123%

I am trending toward the less expensive quote from Trinidad contingent on meeting Jason on Friday.  But I'm very tempted to go for the more expensive quote from Martinique given the recommendation form Amel.   Ken Powers had Aquarius rigged in Martinique last year and was quite happy.  

Any comments appreciated.  Happy New Year to all!

Bill Shaproski
S/V Pacific Cool


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

I just checked my Ouija Board and my Magic 8-Ball. I get exactly the same answer on both: "You May be Right." These two hurricane prediction devices have been right more than they have been wrong, and when they both agree, I feel it is, at least, notable. However, let me point out that I do not know which one of us the "You" refers to.

My favorite statistic is "95% of all statistics are made up." I was told this in 2004 by a hedge fund manager in NY while I was making a presentation to him for his investment. I think he doubted my statistics and BTW, he did not invest in my company.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Perkins M 4.154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip

eric freedman
 

Hi,

If you are planning to cross to Martinique, I would switch to straight 40 weight oil.

When I first received Kimberlite, The factory Yanmar chief mechanic came to replace the turbo. He said to use only straight 40 weight unless you are heading to somewhere very cold.

 

I think the 40 weight might help the oil pressure a little. However , there is something going on in the bottom end of your engine, either too much tolerance in the main bearings, or a defective oil pump.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2018 9:41 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Perkins M 4.154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip

 

 

Christian Alby,

 

   I have never seen a problem where the oil pressure on an engine would drop as engine RPM was increased.  The only explanation that I can think of is a mechanical failure of the oil pump.  As I recall from your previous posts:

 

1.  Your engine experienced significant dilution of the engine oil with diesel fuel followed by at least two runaways which likely exceeded the maximum RPM rating of the engine.

 

2.  Apparently due to the loss of lubrication, the oil pump was badly scored.

 

  My guess is that due to the lack of lubrication,  high engine speed (and perhaps some galling of the oil pump which lead to the  scoring the oil pump) that something in the drive for the oil pump has mostly failed.  Perhaps the gears driving the oil pump are beginning to slip at 2000 RPM now because either the gears or the bearings that should hold the correct clearances have been damaged.  In other words the gears could be only partially engaged due to wear of the gear or the bearings and as the oil pressure rises with engine speed, you reach a point where they begin to slip, causing a rapid drop in oil pressure.  Lowering the engine RPM and oil pressure might be allowing the pump to resume turning as the load on the pump drops and the gears partially reengage.  Certainly unless this problem is corrected, your new engine will not last long.   It is of course impossible to know for sure what the problem is but given that the oil pump is essentially a positive displacement pump which should pump more oil with increasing RPM,  this is the only scenario that I can think of to cause the symptoms that you described.

 

Best of luck and Happy New Year,

 

James

SV Sueño,  Maramu #220

 

On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:38 AM, christian alby calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Here is

 

Yes - oil pressure gauge and l'os pressure alarme on

When oil pressure below  1 bar, alarme nées

Oil pressure drops quickly at 2000 rpm

Oil pressure remains stable when low or normal

Oil pressure remains low when reducing speed from 2000 

 

No loss of oil single de started.  

Ran 1hour maneuvring in port at 1300 rpm at 2 bars, went To idle after 1 hour at 700 rpm with 1.1 bar oil pressure.

Did  not  risk acceleration. 

 

Thks for assiste

 

Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Mindelo Carbo Verde

 

 

 

 

Le dim., déc.. 31, 2017 à 14:58, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...> a écrit :

 

Losing oil pressure at high RPM and having it come back at low RPM is a bit of a puzzle to me.  There are ways it can happen, but they are a bit exotic

 

Do you have an oil pressure gauge AND an low oil pressure alarm?  

If so, is the gauge showing low pressure AND you get an alarm?  

Does the oil pressure drop quickly at 2000RPM or does it drift down slowly?  

Is it stable, or does it bounce around?

Does it come back quickly when you reduce the RPM, or does it stay low?

 

 

 

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Bill R,

 

I’m going to do something I don’t normally do. I going to disagree with you. In regards to the statement, Grenada is overdue for another big hurricane. We did tons of research prior to making our decision to stay there this past season, some of which I will share with you.

 

Hurricane Ivan in 2004 was an anomaly. Statistically, the island of Grenada is more than twice as safe when compared to the state of New Jersey. Yes Ivan did devastate Grenada but, this was the first to do so since 1963 with the arrival of Hurricane Flora. Flora by the way caused more death and destruction in Trinidad Tobago than Grenada. Pre-Ivan Grenada was considered below the hurricane belt and deemed safe. Grenada was a favorite for insurance companies to direct owners. This is because “statistically” a massive size hurricane will not hit there. I am not saying it will never happen but the odds are, it will not.

 

The pictures you attach are the boat yards where prior to Ivan boats were not tied down with hurricane straps. They fell over because they were only supported by only the jack-stands. This blasé approach was due to the fact nobody on the island could recall when the big storm last hit. This has changed. The yards use thick straps to secure boats that are attached to massive ground screws. Would this survive another Ivan? Who knows. But I am guessing you would not see the level of devastation and destruction to boats if they had tied them down for Ivan as they do today.

 

The typical pattern for storms forming that far south in the Atlantic is to arrive in Grenada as a tropical storm and then increase to hurricane strength as they enter the Gulf of Mexico. These storms can hit Grenada with a lot of rain but are certainly not hurricanes.

 

One of the great things about being in Grenada was the option to get out of the way of any approaching storm. I agree Trinidad is only 85 miles away and this was a part of our hurricane plan. Our insurance company gave us the lowest named storm deduction and our filed plan was to stay in the Grenada area. They liked the location of the marina. And there are several H’holes on the southern coast.

 

On a side note, we loved the island of Grenada during the time we spent there is last summer. The people are the friendliest we have encountered on our journey to date. The island is beautiful with flowers and fruits everywhere. The Port Louis Marina is perhaps the nicest marina we have stayed in. Absolutely first class. It has solid concrete docks and sits in a basin surrounded by mountains. There is no wind or ocean exposure from anywhere in the marina.  However, because of the mountains, it is hot as hell there with very little breeze. But, we have air-conditioning.

 

Just my two cents worth.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 2:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

 

 

Just a few comments from my experience in the Caribbean concerning Curacao and Grenada.

 

Curacao & Hurricanes:

The ABCs and specifically Curacao are not out of the path of hurricanes.  In 2007, we ran south from Felix which hit Curacao. There have been several other hurricanes, but most hurricanes hitting Curacao reportedly have caused little damage.

 

Curacao & Marinas/Yards:

Seru Boca Marina - Spanish Waters with over 100 slips...several Amels have stayed at this marina

The Curaçao Yacht Club - Spanish Waters - They gave BeBe a reasonably-priced berth in 2007 for about a week...they have a fuel dock

Kima Kalki Marina - Spanish Waters...I know nothing about this.

Curacao Marine (Haul Out Yard)- Schottegat harbor GPS pos: N 12 06.5 W 068 55.3 This place will tell you that they have Amel experience and told me that last year they saw over 20 Amels. I believe that both statements were serious exaggerations. A client of mine had Curacao Marine perform C Drive and Bow Thruster Service. Neither was done correctly.

 

Grenada:

It is amazing how time heals/changes things. In 2004, IVAN, a Category 5 Hurricane devastated Grenada. Grenada is overdue for the same thing. Trinidad is only 85 miles from Grenada.

 

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

Courtney Gorman
 

Thanks Bill
Courtney
Trippin'
54 #101
Brunswick


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, Jan 1, 2018 1:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

 
Just a few comments from my experience in the Caribbean concerning Curacao and Grenada.

Curacao & Hurricanes:
The ABCs and specifically Curacao are not out of the path of hurricanes.  In 2007, we ran south from Felix which hit Curacao. There have been several other hurricanes, but most hurricanes hitting Curacao reportedly have caused little damage.

Curacao & Marinas/Yards:
Seru Boca Marina - Spanish Waters with over 100 slips...several Amels have stayed at this marina
The Curaçao Yacht Club - Spanish Waters - They gave BeBe a reasonably-priced berth in 2007 for about a week...they have a fuel dock
Kima Kalki Marina - Spanish Waters...I know nothing about this.
Curacao Marine (Haul Out Yard)- Schottegat harbor GPS pos: N 12 06.5 W 068 55.3 This place will tell you that they have Amel experience and told me that last year they saw over 20 Amels. I believe that both statements were serious exaggerations. A client of mine had Curacao Marine perform C Drive and Bow Thruster Service. Neither was done correctly.

Grenada:
It is amazing how time heals/changes things. In 2004, IVAN, a Category 5 Hurricane devastated Grenada. Grenada is overdue for the same thing. Trinidad is only 85 miles from Grenada.




Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Just a few comments from my experience in the Caribbean concerning Curacao and Grenada.

Curacao & Hurricanes:
The ABCs and specifically Curacao are not out of the path of hurricanes.  In 2007, we ran south from Felix which hit Curacao. There have been several other hurricanes, but most hurricanes hitting Curacao reportedly have caused little damage.

Curacao & Marinas/Yards:
Seru Boca Marina - Spanish Waters with over 100 slips...several Amels have stayed at this marina
The Curaçao Yacht Club - Spanish Waters - They gave BeBe a reasonably-priced berth in 2007 for about a week...they have a fuel dock
Kima Kalki Marina - Spanish Waters...I know nothing about this.
Curacao Marine (Haul Out Yard)- Schottegat harbor GPS pos: N 12 06.5 W 068 55.3 This place will tell you that they have Amel experience and told me that last year they saw over 20 Amels. I believe that both statements were serious exaggerations. A client of mine had Curacao Marine perform C Drive and Bow Thruster Service. Neither was done correctly.

Grenada:
It is amazing how time heals/changes things. In 2004, IVAN, a Category 5 Hurricane devastated Grenada. Grenada is overdue for the same thing. Trinidad is only 85 miles from Grenada.




Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

Arno Luijten
 

To elaborate on this, Curacao Yacht Club and Curacao Marina are two different entities located at two different bays (Both in the southwest though).

The Yacht club has no facilities for putting your boat on the dry but has better social aspects.

Cheers,

Arno

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Batteries

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Wolfgang,

If your batteries are Amel OEM Delphi batteries, they are wet cell...and they have lasted a very long time. You may want to load-test those batteries.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550



On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 11:27 AM, webercardio webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Safe sailing to all of you in 2018.

I am just adding a small charger ( Mastervolt easycharge 4,3 A) to the starter battery. 
The original Freedom batteries are still on board. Do I have to set the charger to AGM or Wet-cell?
Thank you very much - especially Bill R. We are in Marina di Ragusa .
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel  54 #162




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Perkins M 4.154 engine repairs, rescheduling trip

James Alton
 

Christian Alby,

   I have never seen a problem where the oil pressure on an engine would drop as engine RPM was increased.  The only explanation that I can think of is a mechanical failure of the oil pump.  As I recall from your previous posts:

1.  Your engine experienced significant dilution of the engine oil with diesel fuel followed by at least two runaways which likely exceeded the maximum RPM rating of the engine.

2.  Apparently due to the loss of lubrication, the oil pump was badly scored.

  My guess is that due to the lack of lubrication,  high engine speed (and perhaps some galling of the oil pump which lead to the  scoring the oil pump) that something in the drive for the oil pump has mostly failed.  Perhaps the gears driving the oil pump are beginning to slip at 2000 RPM now because either the gears or the bearings that should hold the correct clearances have been damaged.  In other words the gears could be only partially engaged due to wear of the gear or the bearings and as the oil pressure rises with engine speed, you reach a point where they begin to slip, causing a rapid drop in oil pressure.  Lowering the engine RPM and oil pressure might be allowing the pump to resume turning as the load on the pump drops and the gears partially reengage.  Certainly unless this problem is corrected, your new engine will not last long.   It is of course impossible to know for sure what the problem is but given that the oil pump is essentially a positive displacement pump which should pump more oil with increasing RPM,  this is the only scenario that I can think of to cause the symptoms that you described.

Best of luck and Happy New Year,

James
SV Sueño,  Maramu #220
 

On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:38 AM, christian alby calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Here is


Yes - oil pressure gauge and l'os pressure alarme on
When oil pressure below  1 bar, alarme nées
Oil pressure drops quickly at 2000 rpm
Oil pressure remains stable when low or normal
Oil pressure remains low when reducing speed from 2000 

No loss of oil single de started.  
Ran 1hour maneuvring in port at 1300 rpm at 2 bars, went To idle after 1 hour at 700 rpm with 1.1 bar oil pressure.
Did  not  risk acceleration. 

Thks for assiste

Christian alby - Desirade VIII - Maramu 116 - now in Mindelo Carbo Verde




Le dim., déc.. 31, 2017 à 14:58, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...> a écrit :
 

Losing oil pressure at high RPM and having it come back at low RPM is a bit of a puzzle to me.  There are ways it can happen, but they are a bit exotic


Do you have an oil pressure gauge AND an low oil pressure alarm?  
If so, is the gauge showing low pressure AND you get an alarm?  
Does the oil pressure drop quickly at 2000RPM or does it drift down slowly?  
Is it stable, or does it bounce around?
Does it come back quickly when you reduce the RPM, or does it stay low?





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Happy New YEAR

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thank you so much Eric,

Also my most sincere wishes to everyone and still hope meeting many of you this year and the next.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sun, 12/31/17, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Happy New YEAR
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, December 31, 2017, 7:03 PM


 









To all my friends who I
have met and those who I hope to meet some day on some far
away sea.I wish all of you and 
your families a happy, and healthy, NEW
YEAR.To those of you who I
have not met , I hope we will meet one day
soon.I reflect on all of the
great times I have had together with some of you and I could
ask nothing more than to sail with you,
my friends, forever.May GOD smile upon you
and your families.With all my
love,EricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376 376

Re: best 2018 to all

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Iftach,


 Welcome to this site ! I can't think of any question about an Amel to which you will not  find the answer here ; plus, Amel owners are great folk to meet.


It's useful to add two items to anything you write--your boat number and its present port. The reason for the boat number is that Amel boats do vary slightly according to when they are built and  for instance a query relevant to my boat, number 302, may not be relevant to an earlier or later boat.

 As to your present port, it makes it easier to answer queries about repairs etc if you say  where you are--plus you might just find yourself offered a cold beer ( or two!) by another Amel owner in the same place.


Fair winds,


 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza, Greece


From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of Boats - Tashoot Ltd boats@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 01 January 2018 11:51:19
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] best 2018 to all
 


Hello all

I am new in the group - best 2018 to all

Iftach kozik

AMEL MARAMU Synnefoula

 

 



best 2018 to all

Boats - Tashoot Ltd
 

Hello all

I am new in the group - best 2018 to all

Iftach kozik

AMEL MARAMU Synnefoula

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Happy New YEAR

Alan Leslie
 

Also...to everyone .........HAPPY NEW YEAR from us

All the best
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Happy New YEAR

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

And to you too Eric
Danny
Sm 299
ocean pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 1 Jan 2018 14:03, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

To all my friends who I have met and those who I hope to meet some day on some far away sea.

I wish all of you and  your families a happy, and healthy, NEW YEAR.

To those of you who I have not met , I hope we will meet one day soon.

I reflect on all of the great times I have had together with some of you and I could ask nothing more

than to sail with you, my friends, forever.

May GOD smile upon you and your families.

With all my love,

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 376

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

eric freedman
 

We stayed at the Curacao Yacht club. Very friendly people, decent restaurant, nice docks. They can also

get you a rent a car at a very good rate. Fuel, Water, and electric available. It is a very sheltered marina.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: best place to leave your boat in the Caribbean (windward islands)

 

 

Well, you can start with checking out this website: http://www.curacaomarine.com/

 

Let me know if you have specific questions, I’ll try to answer them.

 

Regards,

 

Arno

PS Happy New Year to you and all other readers as well