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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9 Capacitors

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

JAMES,

Capacitors are generic items and there is no reason to buy them from Climma. Check capacitors ratings. It should be written on the capacitors. Order online in any electronics supply distributer.

On Feb 3, 2018 21:25, "jamescromie@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hello everyone.  

Can anyone recommend a source for replacement capacitors for the Climma Compact 9 AC units on the SM2000?


Thanks!

James


Soteria

SM2000 #347  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9 Capacitors

Porter McRoberts
 

I also just bought a Clima 12 there. Amazing price. And great service. 
Porter

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Feb 4, 2018, at 5:45 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

That is also where I bought mine.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sat, 2/3/18, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9 Capacitors
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, February 3, 2018, 7:58 PM


 









In the USA Coastal
Climate Controlinfo@...
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:25
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma
Compact 9 Capacitors    Hello everyone.  Can
anyone recommend a source for replacement capacitors for the
Climma Compact 9 AC units on the SM2000?

Thanks!James

SoteriaSM2000
#347  




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9 Capacitors

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

That is also where I bought mine.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 2/3/18, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9 Capacitors
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, February 3, 2018, 7:58 PM


 









In the USA Coastal
Climate Controlinfo@...
WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super
Maramu #376    From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:25
PM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma
Compact 9 Capacitors    Hello everyone.  Can
anyone recommend a source for replacement capacitors for the
Climma Compact 9 AC units on the SM2000?

Thanks!James

SoteriaSM2000
#347

Re: Maramu: Location for watermaker

Michael Konz <mkbiz@...>
 

I installed an Aquabase watermaker in the engine room. The pump went on a
small platform besides the battery compartment and the main unit is wall
mounted at the port side of the engine room as far forward as possible.
So I still have enough place in the engine room to do all the works.

Good luck
Michael

[Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9 Capacitors

eric freedman
 

In the USA Coastal Climate Control

info@...

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:25 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9 Capacitors

 

 

Hello everyone.  

Can anyone recommend a source for replacement capacitors for the Climma Compact 9 AC units on the SM2000?



Thanks!

James



Soteria

SM2000 #347  

Climma Compact 9 Capacitors

James Cromie
 

Hello everyone.  

Can anyone recommend a source for replacement capacitors for the Climma Compact 9 AC units on the SM2000?


Thanks!

James


Soteria

SM2000 #347  

Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

amelfango
 

Thanks all for your various advice.  I have the unit reassembled.  As my milling machine is in Dublin I used my timber thicknesser, which I have here in France.  I removed about 1.3mm and this gave just enough clearance.  This means that compared to as assembled when new the amount of swelling that has occurred is nearly 4mm.  I removed 1.25mm this I can say with a fair degree of accuracy as it was on a metal working mill.  On reassembly I had to leave out the 1mm shims that were fitted when new.  I now with the thicknesser removed about 1.3mm.  This lot comes to over 3.5mm.  When you look at the dimensions of the slider this represents a very large effect.

The only way I can suggest an explanation for this is as follows.  The swelling is way beyond any figures given for the effects of water on nylon.  The nylon must be expanded in a sort of a way beyond its elastic limit with water take up.  It dries but does not dimensionally recover.  It then takes up water and expands again.  It is probably due to the structure of Nylon which I have seen described as partially crystalline.

As an anecdote I understand that Nylon shirts were killed off by the fact that in taking up perspiration they also absorbed body odours but these would not wash out resulting in clean but still smelly shirts after washing!  These two issues might well be associated.

I will look at getting the four sliders made from an alternative material.  I will with the various advice settle on the one that looks best.  Thanks all again.

Rob

Maramu: Location for watermaker

smiles bernard
 

Hi there
I have recently ordered a schenka watermaker.
It comes in two parts. The pump and the Reverse Osmosis unit.
The pump needs to be <2m from the skin fitting and the RO unit closeish and lowish to the pump.
I was wondering if other had fitted watermakers and if so where.
I’m going to try and keep it out of the engine room as it’s crowded already with batteries /alternators etc. None of which like Water!
So considering either or a combination of low in the port cockpit locker (under a removable false floor perhaps) and or behind the aft heads (between the heads and the port hull side)

Any thoughts and experience most welcome!

Fair winds
Miles

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

INUS - BUSCH
 

Sorry, but my last response was a mistake!
I should not have pressed the send button.
It seems I‘m getting too old for a fast reply.
All the best
Dieter
Sharki #135 Fal-lera

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 03.02.2018 um 17:43 schrieb Gregory Shea gmshea@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 


Rob, 

Take a look at  UHMW (ultra high molecular weight polyethylene). It is readily available and easy to work. It is commonly used for sliding applications industrially. One of its fairly rigorous applications is the sliding contact under the work platforms of JLG scissor lifts. 


Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles



From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of rob.molly@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 3:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54
 
 

Thanks Hank,


Yes you're right all the technical papers that I've found show equilibrium for the most common Nylons i.e. Nylon 6, Nylon 66 and Nylon 610 at 50%/60% humidity. The equilibrium is achieved after more than 100 days There is no information when the humidity is frequently over 80% plus exposure to salt water, as it is in La Rochelle where the boat has spent a lot of time and where it's moored today with the humidity at 88%.  The figure appears to be more than 5% water take-up but, and this is the most annoying part that, it continues to swell with a unit that has previously been machined.

The fact is that swelling has happened repeatedly showing that it is a continuing process.  The swelling must stretch the material and it does not appear to recover original dimensions on drying then swelling again later.

HDPE and moulded PTFE are contenders and maybe use the old fashion solution of Lignum Vitae.  Some tangible cooperation from Opacmare would be helpful.  They haven't even advised which Nylon they use  and clearly not considered at all an alternative.

All this bother with a product that cost the price of a good small car when new!

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

INUS - BUSCH
 

Sehr geehrter Herr Ertl,

Vielen Dank für die Antwort, damit kann ich was anfangen.
Und noch ein schönes Restwochenende.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Busch

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 03.02.2018 um 17:43 schrieb Gregory Shea gmshea@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 


Rob, 

Take a look at  UHMW (ultra high molecular weight polyethylene). It is readily available and easy to work. It is commonly used for sliding applications industrially. One of its fairly rigorous applications is the sliding contact under the work platforms of JLG scissor lifts. 


Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles



From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of rob.molly@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 3:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54
 
 

Thanks Hank,


Yes you're right all the technical papers that I've found show equilibrium for the most common Nylons i.e. Nylon 6, Nylon 66 and Nylon 610 at 50%/60% humidity. The equilibrium is achieved after more than 100 days There is no information when the humidity is frequently over 80% plus exposure to salt water, as it is in La Rochelle where the boat has spent a lot of time and where it's moored today with the humidity at 88%.  The figure appears to be more than 5% water take-up but, and this is the most annoying part that, it continues to swell with a unit that has previously been machined.

The fact is that swelling has happened repeatedly showing that it is a continuing process.  The swelling must stretch the material and it does not appear to recover original dimensions on drying then swelling again later.

HDPE and moulded PTFE are contenders and maybe use the old fashion solution of Lignum Vitae.  Some tangible cooperation from Opacmare would be helpful.  They haven't even advised which Nylon they use  and clearly not considered at all an alternative.

All this bother with a product that cost the price of a good small car when new!

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

Gregory Shea
 


Rob, 

Take a look at  UHMW (ultra high molecular weight polyethylene). It is readily available and easy to work. It is commonly used for sliding applications industrially. One of its fairly rigorous applications is the sliding contact under the work platforms of JLG scissor lifts. 


Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles



From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of rob.molly@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 3:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54
 
 

Thanks Hank,


Yes you're right all the technical papers that I've found show equilibrium for the most common Nylons i.e. Nylon 6, Nylon 66 and Nylon 610 at 50%/60% humidity. The equilibrium is achieved after more than 100 days There is no information when the humidity is frequently over 80% plus exposure to salt water, as it is in La Rochelle where the boat has spent a lot of time and where it's moored today with the humidity at 88%.  The figure appears to be more than 5% water take-up but, and this is the most annoying part that, it continues to swell with a unit that has previously been machined.

The fact is that swelling has happened repeatedly showing that it is a continuing process.  The swelling must stretch the material and it does not appear to recover original dimensions on drying then swelling again later.

HDPE and moulded PTFE are contenders and maybe use the old fashion solution of Lignum Vitae.  Some tangible cooperation from Opacmare would be helpful.  They haven't even advised which Nylon they use  and clearly not considered at all an alternative.

All this bother with a product that cost the price of a good small car when new!

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wet Cell Batteries

Duane Siegfri
 

Dan,

Thanks for the informative reply.  

I had tried to upload a spreadsheet with our SG readings in it, but Yahoo was acting up.  I tried again in this reply, but it won't upload the attachment.  The average SG was 1.226 with a low cell of 1.215 and a high cell of 1.445.  

I think I'm probably going to have to remove the pair that has the low SG reading battery in it from the wiring.  I won't pull the batteries out of the box since they make for a nice tight fit.

The batteries were new in August of 2016, so they're less than two years old.  The next time I replace the batteries, I'm going to replace the charger as well.  Having a charger that will equalize the batteries, and has adjustable charging voltages, only makes sense.  The cost of the battery charger is about equal to new batteries so it's an investment, but we plan to keep the boat a few more years.

I'm still wondering when you replace the entire suite of batteries?  The lower limit of the "fair" range on my SG tester is 1.210 so I guess that's the trigger for replacement?

Replacing the charger with a charger/inverter, the inverter will be a boon for AC for the microwave and outlets (i.e. popcorn and computer charging anytime you want to!).  I don't expect my third Xantrex Prosine 1800 watt inverter to last any longer than the first two did (replaced sequentially under a two year warranty).

Thanks again,

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wet Cell Batteries

Dan Carlson
 

Hi Duane,  I also have the DEKA group 31 Marine Master batteries (DC31DT) , installed December 2016. I am not an expert, but can only relate my specific experience.

After 6 mos on the hard in Trinidad this summer I was down to 1mm of electrolyte over the cells. It took over 3 gallons to get the 12 batteries back to the mark.  Initially, 5 of the batteries tested "bad" with very low CCA results and overnight the voltage would drop to 24.6- 24.7 volts with only about 45 amp hrs consumed.  

But over time, with "excercise" they have regained some performance.  They charge well, and now test over 650CCA per battery, and the fully charged electrolyte SG ranged from 1.240 to 1.260, with most at 1.250.  And the drop in the SG in the over night is about 0.010.  Last night we used 55 amp/hrs overnight and the voltage was 24.9 at 6:30am. I am trying to see if I can recover a bit more performance.  

I have 405 watts of solar. The MPPT is set to 28.2 absorb and 27.2 float.  I think 27.6 might be a bit high.  When I left to boat on the hard with no load it would still start each day with 28.2 for an hour, that was not good. And by my calculations, even the 27.2v float was to high for the hot on shore temperatures.

DEKA does have a pretty good manual for care for their industrial batteries, and they also answer their technical support phone +1 610 682 4231.
Here are some of the specs that they gave me:
  - bulk/absorb - up to 29.2v 
  - float - 13.5v 
  - equalization - 31.5v until voltage stabilizes 

I also have the Dolphin chargers without equalization capability.  For me, it seemed that discharging the bank down to about 80 - 85% of the theoretical capacity and then fully recharging with the 100amp charger gave me noticeable improvement in overnight voltage drop.

Perhaps that helps.

Regards, Dan Carlson on sv BeBe,  SM#387





On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:40 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

I'm trying to understand the condition of our house battery bank.  I'm definitely not a battery expert.  We have the original Dolphin Battery Chargers (100A and 30A).  We use the 30A at the dock and the 100A with the generator.  We also have a Victron Blue Solar 100/30 with 630 watts of solar panels.  The installer set it at 28.8V Absorption and 27.6V Float (Position 2).


First:  The 12 Group 31 house batteries use about 0.5 gallons/month...is that excessive?  I'm wondering if the MPPT controller is overcharging the batteries.


Second:  How close to replacement are we?

I checked the specific gravity of all cells recently (see the attached spreadsheet).  I read that a new, fully charged cell should be at 1.265, and is discharged at a SG of 1.120.  The best cell tested at 1.265 and the weakest cell at 1.145 (corrected for temperature).  The average SG of all cells was 1.226.  This SG corresponds to 75% state of charge from what I read.  At SG of 1.190 the battery is at 50% SOC and battery #3 has three cells in that range.


Third:  Should I just replace Battery #3?


Fourth:  I've read that when the difference between cells in a battery is greater than 0.03,0 the batteries would benefit from equalization.  My Dolphin chargers are not adjustable (at least as far as I can tell).  The MPPT has an equalization function that will run for an hour.  Will that be sufficient?


Thanks for your input,

Duane 

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

amelfango
 

Thanks Eric,

As often is the case you have a good suggestion.  Delrin looks like a good suggestion.

Nylon certainly appears not to be a good choice .  The problem is probably aggravated by long periods when the passerelle in not used.

Thanks again

Rob

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

eric freedman
 

I had a similar problem with the bearings in the rudder shaft  of my Tartan 37.

I had new bearings made out of delrin and had no further problems , after sailing her over 15,000 miles.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 3:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

 

 

Thanks Hank,

 

Yes you're right all the technical papers that I've found show equilibrium for the most common Nylons i.e. Nylon 6, Nylon 66 and Nylon 610 at 50%/60% humidity. The equilibrium is achieved after more than 100 days There is no information when the humidity is frequently over 80% plus exposure to salt water, as it is in La Rochelle where the boat has spent a lot of time and where it's moored today with the humidity at 88%.  The figure appears to be more than 5% water take-up but, and this is the most annoying part that, it continues to swell with a unit that has previously been machined.

 

The fact is that swelling has happened repeatedly showing that it is a continuing process.  The swelling must stretch the material and it does not appear to recover original dimensions on drying then swelling again later.

 

HDPE and moulded PTFE are contenders and maybe use the old fashion solution of Lignum Vitae.  Some tangible cooperation from Opacmare would be helpful.  They haven't even advised which Nylon they use  and clearly not considered at all an alternative.

 

All this bother with a product that cost the price of a good small car when new!

Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

amelfango
 

Thanks Hank,

Yes you're right all the technical papers that I've found show equilibrium for the most common Nylons i.e. Nylon 6, Nylon 66 and Nylon 610 at 50%/60% humidity. The equilibrium is achieved after more than 100 days There is no information when the humidity is frequently over 80% plus exposure to salt water, as it is in La Rochelle where the boat has spent a lot of time and where it's moored today with the humidity at 88%.  The figure appears to be more than 5% water take-up but, and this is the most annoying part that, it continues to swell with a unit that has previously been machined.

The fact is that swelling has happened repeatedly showing that it is a continuing process.  The swelling must stretch the material and it does not appear to recover original dimensions on drying then swelling again later.

HDPE and moulded PTFE are contenders and maybe use the old fashion solution of Lignum Vitae.  Some tangible cooperation from Opacmare would be helpful.  They haven't even advised which Nylon they use  and clearly not considered at all an alternative.

All this bother with a product that cost the price of a good small car when new!

Re: Bow Thruster won't come up

greatketch@...
 

Yes, it is.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie 
Great Abaco Is, Bahamas

Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

Hank rose
 

Nylon swells a little as it absorbs moisture, maybe a different kind of plastic like PE (poly ethylene) or better still HD (high density) PE would be better?

Re: How to remove freezer compressor

amelfango
 

Hi Paul,

It's hard to know what's Jonnuck in the advice from Périgny these days.  So, if you wish, I'll ask  when I'm up there tomorrow, repairing the passerelle.  As an example nobody could advise me how to remove the dishwasher on a 54 nor which current model would fit.  It was not difficult and in case anyone needs to know the one I fitted with minimum readjustment was a BRANDT DFC6519S.  If anyone needs further information please ask.

Regards

Rob
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster won't come up

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Duane,

I have been following your Bow Thruster issue.
I would have guessed the sensors as well…
I was going to write you, but since you check these already did not.
Here is what happen to me in 2014 (not 2012 as the date says):
http://www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_sensor.html
Then you have more illustration:
http://www.nikimat.com/bow_thruster_command_box.html

Personally I purchase the sensors from Amel La Rochelle and Amel Martinique.
In Martinique the sensors were 88.13 Euro each
http://www.nikimat.com/factures/2014_12_22_Amel_Martinique_nikimat.pdf
In La Rochelle they were 24 Euro each
http://www.nikimat.com/factures/2014_12_23_amel_facture.pdf

Sincerely, Alexandre





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On Thu, 2/1/18, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster won't come up
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, February 1, 2018, 4:18 PM


 









Paul,
Where did
you buy the sensor?
Duane