Date   

Chesapeake Rendezvous

Patrick McAneny
 

To date ,12 boats have expressed interest in coming to the rendezvous as well as a couple planning on an Amel in the future and Joel. Diane and I have looked at when people are available to attend, and I have a couple of suggestions of possible dates.  I would rather have the decision be made by the attendees, so I am going to suggest two dates and would like for attendees to email me back direct asap the date they would prefer, and majority will rule. 


Later in the summer looks best. 

Option one :  Would be the third week in August , the weekend before Labor Day weekend, Friday 24,25 &26th


Option two: Have it quite later, in early Oct. on  Monday Oct. 1st , 2nd and 3rd, then for those interested in attending the Annapolis Boat Show, we could have a rally departing Thursday sailing over to Annapolis, the show is from Thursday thru Monday (Oct 4-8)


These appear to be the best two options, so would you email me and let me know your preference. Anyone out there that is interested in attending and has not emailed me yet please do, the more the merrier.


Thanks,

Pat & Diane

SM Shenanigans

sailw32@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] water squirting from engine vented loop [1 Attachment]

Mark Erdos
 

Ryan and Kelly,

 

This is perfectly normal. The sound should make you happy as it means sea-water is flowing through the engine and out the exhaust. The vented loop is mounted with a hollow bolt and no valve. Some systems opt to install a valve but it is just another thing that can go wrong. Simple is best.

 

As an FYI, this bolt will also whistle. It you are at a calm anchorage and the boat rocks a little, air can be forced back up the exhaust at the water line and every once in a while the hole will whistle. This drove me crazy for a while. It can be stopped by stuffing a rag into the scupper by the vented loop air exit (and putting a note on the engine control panel to remind you of the rag).

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 10:53 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] water squirting from engine vented loop [1 Attachment]

 

 

[Attachment(s) from Ryan Meador included below]

Hi all,

 

When I started my engine (a TMD22) this morning, I heard the sound of water running down the cockpit scuppers.  The vented loop right under the engine room hatch discharges into the trough at the aft end of the cockpit, and apparently it has decided to start squirting water (photo attached).  At idle, it is a squirt every few seconds.  At 2000rpm, it's a steady stream.  The amount of water coming out the exhaust at the waterline looks normal, and the engine temperature also appears normal.  Without disassembly, I don't see any obvious sign of a valve in the vented loop, and the water isn't coming from what I presume is the vent at the top, it's coming through what I thought was the mounting bolt.  I seem to recall seeing a thread about this before, but I can't find it searching on the Yahoo group.  Even just learning the proper name for this thing would probably help.  What should I check out?

 

Thanks,

Ryan and Kelly

SM 233 Iteration

Boston, MA, USA

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cover for mechanical rudder indicator on Steering wheel hub

INUS - BUSCH
 

Steve,
I also have a mechanical indicator, but on mine the plastic housing is broken/melted. It is not the first position  on my todo list, but I am very interested if somebody knows where to find a replacement.

Dieter
Fal-lera Sharki #135


Am 03.06.2018 um 22:44 schrieb yachtmaccabee@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

After nursing the old plastic cover for 25 years, the plastic cover on the mechanical rudder indicator on the steering wheel hub on our 1985 Sharki has finally disintegrated.  I know most owners with this situation have cut off the nylon indicator and covered up the opening as new autopilot displays show the rudder position.


However, we like the convenience of the old set up and ability to check the rudder position when the electronics are turned off.


Has any owner of an older boat found a satisfactory solution to this problem?


Steve Leeds

Yacht MACCABEE

Sharki #121


Re: Schematic for Dolphin 50 A Battery Charger

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Gary,
We replaced our old Dolphin chargers some years ago.
Previous to that I had some issues and this contact was helpful :

 Nicolas FATA 
 email : n-fata at reya dot com

 

Nicolas FATA

Directeur Commercial / Sales Director

REYA SAS - Groupe Alliance Marine

Tél: +33 (0) 493 904 705

Fax: +33 (0) 493 902 440

Cell: +33 609 976 376

Reya SAS

2599 Route de la Fenerie

06580 Pegomas

France

www.reya.com

www.dolphin-charger.com

www.euromarine.fr

A Company of Alliance Marine Group

 

Hope that helps

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437, Pacific Harbour, Fiji


Schematic for Dolphin 50 A Battery Charger

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

My original Amel Supplied PN DOL2450AMEL (evidently custom made for Amel) 50 amp battery charger is suddenly inoperative.  No tech info on this at the Dolphin web site or in the files or conversations  searches of this site.  Does anyone have a schematic for this unit?  Already verified power from CB to the unit and also that the main fuse is not blown.   It may just be time for a new generation of charger but thought I would at least give a repair a try. 


Thanks, 


Gary S. Silver

s/v Liahona

Amel SM 2000 Hull #335

on the hard in Puerto Del Rey Puerto Rico with Hull # 331 right next to me


Cover for mechanical rudder indicator on Steering wheel hub

Steve Leeds
 

After nursing the old plastic cover for 25 years, the plastic cover on the mechanical rudder indicator on the steering wheel hub on our 1985 Sharki has finally disintegrated.  I know most owners with this situation have cut off the nylon indicator and covered up the opening as new autopilot displays show the rudder position.


However, we like the convenience of the old set up and ability to check the rudder position when the electronics are turned off.


Has any owner of an older boat found a satisfactory solution to this problem?


Steve Leeds

Yacht MACCABEE

Sharki #121


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: water squirting from engine vented loop

greatketch@...
 

Ryan, 

In Amel's installation the water coming out of the "bolt thing" IS the anti-syphon vent.  There was no additional vent at the top of the loop, that would be redundant.  

 All you need is one hole up near the top of the loop-somewhere-so air can get in when the engine stops.

Bill 


---In amelyachtowners@..., <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote :

Hi Bill,

That is good news! Just so I'm certain I understand, the water coming out of this bolt thing is normal, and that is distinct from the vent at the top of the loop? I see no path for water from the top of the loop to get into the scupper.

Thanks,
Ryan



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: water squirting from engine vented loop

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Bill,

That is good news! Just so I'm certain I understand, the water coming out of this bolt thing is normal, and that is distinct from the vent at the top of the loop? I see no path for water from the top of the loop to get into the scupper.

Thanks,
Ryan


On Sun, Jun 3, 2018, 11:02 AM greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ryan,


Check nothing!  That is what it is supposed to do.  (Bet you are happy to hear THAT for a change?)

The fitting at the top of the water hose loop does have a small hole that drains as a syphon break into the scupper.  There is no check valve or other obstruction in the fitting, it is just a hole.  You only have to check something if you do NOT hear the water gurgling.  That might indicate a plug in the vent, and increase the risk of water draining into the engine.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD. USA


Sisila Sale

Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>
 

ref my previous post for Sisila sale, the brooker is Pier-André Jane, one of the most honest persons I met when I bought Sisila,
He as all shots of the boat



Attilio & Maria Siviero 
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"



Sisila sale

Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Dear friends, 
for family reason I decided to sell Sisila, our beloved Santorin#84-93.
She  is in perfect general conditions, recent survey (for insurance request on the 25year old boat) in Leros Agmar marina boatyard.
Now Sisila is in Monfalcone, because I want to enjoy her before selling end of season.
Some of you know how I refitted Sisila, new sails Hydranet triradials, new rigging by ACMO, solar panels and windgen, new VHF Simrad RD90 with remote station in cockpit, chartplotter furuno gp7000,
forward looking sonar (the only additional hole we made in the hull) FM Radio with proper antenna, Television set with proper antenna, transponder AIS Digital Yacht (with proper antenna, no splitter)  connected to the chartplotter in order to see surroundig commercial vessels, HF Radio with radio modem to make emails thru the radio, navtex, meteoman, liferaft updated last year in Athens, Safety certificate updated in last February according to ITA regulation, and other things 
Reasonable request is 125k€, looking at the market (yachword.com)
If somebody of you is interested
A bit sadly


Attilio & Maria Siviero 
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"



Re: water squirting from engine vented loop

greatketch@...
 

Ryan,

Check nothing!  That is what it is supposed to do.  (Bet you are happy to hear THAT for a change?)

The fitting at the top of the water hose loop does have a small hole that drains as a syphon break into the scupper.  There is no check valve or other obstruction in the fitting, it is just a hole.  You only have to check something if you do NOT hear the water gurgling.  That might indicate a plug in the vent, and increase the risk of water draining into the engine.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD. USA


water squirting from engine vented loop

Ryan Meador
 

Hi all,

When I started my engine (a TMD22) this morning, I heard the sound of water running down the cockpit scuppers.  The vented loop right under the engine room hatch discharges into the trough at the aft end of the cockpit, and apparently it has decided to start squirting water (photo attached).  At idle, it is a squirt every few seconds.  At 2000rpm, it's a steady stream.  The amount of water coming out the exhaust at the waterline looks normal, and the engine temperature also appears normal.  Without disassembly, I don't see any obvious sign of a valve in the vented loop, and the water isn't coming from what I presume is the vent at the top, it's coming through what I thought was the mounting bolt.  I seem to recall seeing a thread about this before, but I can't find it searching on the Yahoo group.  Even just learning the proper name for this thing would probably help.  What should I check out?

Thanks,
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster Rusted Shut

Mark Erdos
 

Yay!

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 2:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster Rusted Shut

 

 

Yes, Commander!

-Capt. Bode

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raising the waterline aft on SM

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Alan

Thanks, and yes I do have a picture of your new paint job in relation to the exhaust outlet. That to me, is the absolute measure which can be used to work out the relative heights which people have raised their anti-foul paint to on different boats, hence my question.

I have no problem with that being under water, as it is already semi-submerged anyway on our boat anyway. The position of the paint line will make no difference to that.

Nice to see you are out in Fiji again this year. We have now done SE Asia, Maldives and North Indian Ocean and it is really nice to be in cooler weather, in the South Indian ocean, out of the equator zone after a full year of hot tropics!

Best regards

Colin
Amel SM #332, Rodrigues

On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 2:11 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi again Colin....


Of course where you paint the water line makes no difference as to how the exhausts perform, they are still in the same place relative to the water.
I can tell you that i really enjoy not having to scrub that waterline aft !!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raising the waterline aft on SM

Alan Leslie
 

Hi again Colin....

Of course where you paint the water line makes no difference as to how the exhausts perform, they are still in the same place relative to the water.
I can tell you that i really enjoy not having to scrub that waterline aft !!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raising the waterline aft on SM

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Colin,
We lifted the entire waterline up to the red stripe...i'm sure i sent you pics of this?
The exhaust issue is not really a problem if you think about it.
If you are motor sailing on Starboard tack, the exhausts will be under the water anyway.

We find it is great not having to scrub the waterline. The Onan exhaust splutters a bit when at anchor, but as a trade off, for us it works really well.....

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Malamu Bay, Beqa , Fiji


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raising the waterline aft on SM

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Gary and all

Thank you for all the comments here. We have been watching this thread with interest as we too are tired of scrubbing the rear where the anti-foul coating is not high enough.

Please post some pics of the job in progress and completed, and in particular I would be interested to see a pic of the new lines at the engine/gen exhaust outlet after you have run the lazer line.

We will probably do something similar at our next haul out, either Cape Town or Grenada.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, SM#332.
Now in the beautiful Rodrigues, Indian Ocean.


On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 6:39 AM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:
 

Miles, Ian & Judy, and Bill:


Thanks for your input, it is valued.  I just got back to the boat yesterday and looked at the waterline issue with Ken Towne of Island Marine Inc here at Puerto Del Rey in Puerto Rico and measuring the existing water "marking" there is 9 inches of bottom paint above the waterline / watermark at the bow, tapering to 0 inches of anti-fouling above the water line aft.  We have decided to raise the antifouling by three inches aft and shoot a laser level along the side of the boat so it is a straight line from the existing 9 inches forward.  She still won't be level on her lines but she will be "more level" than before by a long shot. 

I think 3 inches of bottom paint showing at the stern will give me some leeway if I add a stern solar arch (about 200 lbs I believe, for either an Atlantic Arch or an Emek Marine Arch.

In case you are wondering I had previous place a lot of weight in the bow to try and level the boat but it head to pronounced "hobby horsing" in heavy seas. 

Thanks again all, 

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000  #335
Fajardo Puerto Rico - Puerto Del Rey Marina Yard




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Bow Thruster Rusted Shut

Steven Bode - SV Intention 1994-SM#117
 

Yes, Commander!
-Capt. Bode


Re: Repower questions

greatketch@...
 

Dave,

Thanks for the reference. I have looked at--and dismissed--the Beta Marine engine. It is a good engine, and I know the West Coast distributer from my days in SF. As you say they are good guys.

The problem is that their 75HP engine is not turbocharged.  That in and of itself really appeals, for lots of reasons. BUT.... that means the engine weighs 400 or 500 pounds more that the turbo equivalents. 

That is just much more dead weight than I will consider adding to the boat. I'll live with the added complexity and maintenance of the turbo for a half inch of waterline sink!

I am in no rush, and this is not something that will happen quickly.  Lots of research yet to do. If I had to do it today, I would use a Volvo D2.  But, fortunately, I don't have to.  Just want to have all the pieces in place so I can move quickly if I end up needing to.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA



---In amelyachtowners@..., <dave_benjamin@...> wrote :

Bill, 
One of our west coast Amel sail clients repowered with a Beta Marine. He also considered a Yanmar. Beta was a much easier retrofit than the Yanmar would have been according to what he told me. And the staff at the Beta distributor was quite helpful. If you want to speak with him directly I can ask him if he is okay with me sharing his email address. 


Re: Repower questions

Miles
 

Yes,  it has an isolated ground.  Unfortunately, I didn’t know about the ground until after the engine was installed and then Volvo didn’t want to send the parts to me because their lawyers said not too.  Finally, a Volvo person send the list of every needed part to me.  I ordered the parts separately from Volvo and now I have an isolated engine.  Again, too late smart.

Regards,

Miles