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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Den

Delphi is no longer in business, except maybe the Delphi battery may be available in Turkey made under a license agreement.

Varta makes a "freedom" battery similar to the GROUP 31 Delphi Freedom battery. I did not have good luck with Varta, but I believe the Greek battery dealer sold me old stock... BEWARE, this can happen anywhere.

You might consider buying GROUP 31 normal lead acid batteries that you will have to check the water level and add distilled water. 

Be careful of adding an AGM battery or other sophisticated battery unless you are absolutely certain all of your charges can be adjusted.

My 1 year old batteries failed in Montenegro. I bought Korean made lead acid starting batteries because there were no deep cycle marine batteries available. I think they cost about 110 Euro and they lasted 2 years...not bad for a non-deep cycle, but I had solar which kept them above 85% charge. 

Good luck.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mar 4, 2018 09:16, "delborn@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi everyone, I need to replace my batteries. As it's important to find an exact fit has anyone sourced them in Croatia. It seems difficult to even find the manufacturer - is it Delphi?


Den and Julie

Aventura

Amel 54 - 113


Mizzen balloner

Denis Elborn
 

Although we have owned Aventura for a couple of seasons I  got the mizzen staysail out of the bag for the first time last season. Probably never used by the previous owner as it seemed brand new.

Mt question is how is the best way to fly it. If I have it on the leeward side of the main then the main becomes useless, cannot let it out enough, and if I fly it to windward of the main the tack rope is too short, the main sheet is fouled. Obviously I can lengthen the tack rope but I agree with Bill that Amel get pretty well everything right so what am I doing wrong?


Den and Julie

Aventura

Amel 54 - 113

Batteries

Denis Elborn
 

Hi everyone, I need to replace my batteries. As it's important to find an exact fit has anyone sourced them in Croatia. It seems difficult to even find the manufacturer - is it Delphi?


Den and Julie

Aventura

Amel 54 - 113

Reya water pump UK dealer

ya_fohi
 

Hi,
I am looking for a UK dealer who can supply me with brushes for my Reya water pump. Any info most appreciated.
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98


Re: tb/AMEL SCHOOL/

Alan Leslie
 

Congratulations Teun on your purchase.
Amelit is a great boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main Sail Furler

Patrick McAneny
 

Duane, I had decided to leave the old race in, but I just used a torch on it , maybe I will put it in the oven. It seems the race would expand as well as the casing for 0 net effect. However the aluminum would expand faster as it conducts heat better than steel.
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Mar 2, 2018 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Main Sail Furler

 
Pat,

I did heat it in an oven, and it then came out very easily.  I pried / scraped somewhat gently from the hole in the body for the winch socket and it took very little to get it out.  It needs to be as hot as your oven will go though.

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Extra halyard???

Beaute Olivier
 

Good morning,

I remember when handing-over Super Maramus that some new owners were anxious to have only a furling genoa as headsail in heavy weather conditions.
An easy solution was then to rig a pulley and Vectran halyard at the first spreaders front fittings, the ones that go through the extrusion. We (at after sales/handing over service) made two spliced loops with polyamide (mooring line type) rope, one for each spreader, that came together to a pulley. We used to glue a piece of leather on the mast in order the pulley does chafe the paint.
The owner had then a 7 sqm storm sail made, orange colour, with a Vectran lufftape. The tack would be rigged on the windlass cleat or on the towing cleat in front of it. The sheets would be rigged on a pulley attached to the front genoa sheet track eyebolt (the one for the preventer).
With a storm sail, you don't really need to set the sheet very close to the mast (you are not close hauling with 40/50 knots).
This was a free flying storm sail, with the lower aft shrouds as backing part.

Some other people also came to a staysail system, fitted at second spreaders, but this is another story.

Amel and after sales have never installed such a halyard at mid mast, which would require to drill the mast for installing a fitting for the pulley. Don't do that, you would weaken the mast.

Joel, if the above is not clear enough, you may need to translate...

Have a good day.

Olivier




On Saturday, March 3, 2018 1:53 AM, "pjn.mccallin@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 


Additional halyard

pjn.mccallin@...
 

I hope I’m not repeating myself, I cannot see what I’m typing, anyway  here goes.

I ordered Caramelle to be delivered with the additional halyard at a cost of €686!

The reason why was really very simple, without it how was I to gain access to the top of the mast?

Nothing to do with extra sails etc, I wanted/needed to be certain I could access the plethora of systems at the mast head, indeed I am in the process of fitting a new wind speed bearing to my B&G MHU!

Hope this clarifies the issue, sorry for any typos, I cannot read what I’ve typed!!!

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Extra halyard???

pjn.mccallin@...
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Extra halyard???

amelforme
 

I’m asking Olivier

JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
Office 954-462-5869 

On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:44 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Joel, for the background.  


I do have a storm sail on board, but if I raised it on that halyard, it would have to be sheeted inside the rigging, and there are no blocks for that purpose.

OK, so I'll leave it up and maybe someone will eventually know more about it.

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Extra halyard???

Ian Townsend
 

You can use a snatch block affixed to the bottom of one of the stanchions where the preventer attaches.

Ian
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153

On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:44 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Joel, for the background.  


I do have a storm sail on board, but if I raised it on that halyard, it would have to be sheeted inside the rigging, and there are no blocks for that purpose.

OK, so I'll leave it up and maybe someone will eventually know more about it.

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

Ian Townsend
 

We have one heavy block that hangs down the forward side of the mast and is made fast to both of the spreaders at the mast with what looks to be about 5/8" line. So it can be used on either tack.

Ian
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153

On Mar 2, 2018, at 1:38 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Oh! This discussion is so timely! I hope you are all talking about the halyard that runs through the block about halfway up the front side of the main mast? This is the double block with just one side used for the mystery halyard?

 

I too have wondered what is the purpose of this and basically filed it under the “I’ll figure it out, one day” category.

 

But to complicate things further, we had only ONE extra halyard there. The other side was empty. Then, we had some work done by Amel and they removed our headsail furling motor. When, they were done, they installed yet another halyard. So, now we have TWO halyards (one of each side of this block) about which I ponder the purpose of. These are in addition to the two lifting halyards for the twin pole system.

 

It’s still filed in the same category but it might be nice to know the answer sooner rather than later.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 1:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

 

 

We have that halyard also. In addition to potentially lifting the dinghy (though there are other halyards that can be used for this purpose), I was thinking it was to raise the storm staysail. If not, then perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what would raise it. It certainly would not go to the masthead.

Ian Townsend

S/V Loca Lola II 

SM153

George Town, Exuma, Bahamas. 


On Mar 1, 2018, at 8:51 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have an odd halyard that goes up to the first spreader.  The previous owner had looped some heavy line around the lower spreaders and hung a block from it which has a halyard in it.

 

I don't know the reason for it.  #477 came stock with a 3rd main mast halyard (top of mast) for the gennaker (original equipment, it's in the Amel book).  The third main mast halyard would be fine for raising a dinghy so why the odd additional halyard at the spreader?

 

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Extra halyard???

Duane Siegfri
 

Thanks Joel, for the background.  

I do have a storm sail on board, but if I raised it on that halyard, it would have to be sheeted inside the rigging, and there are no blocks for that purpose.

OK, so I'll leave it up and maybe someone will eventually know more about it.

Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

Mark Erdos
 

Oh! This discussion is so timely! I hope you are all talking about the halyard that runs through the block about halfway up the front side of the main mast? This is the double block with just one side used for the mystery halyard?

 

I too have wondered what is the purpose of this and basically filed it under the “I’ll figure it out, one day” category.

 

But to complicate things further, we had only ONE extra halyard there. The other side was empty. Then, we had some work done by Amel and they removed our headsail furling motor. When, they were done, they installed yet another halyard. So, now we have TWO halyards (one of each side of this block) about which I ponder the purpose of. These are in addition to the two lifting halyards for the twin pole system.

 

It’s still filed in the same category but it might be nice to know the answer sooner rather than later.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 1:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

 

 

We have that halyard also. In addition to potentially lifting the dinghy (though there are other halyards that can be used for this purpose), I was thinking it was to raise the storm staysail. If not, then perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what would raise it. It certainly would not go to the masthead.

Ian Townsend

S/V Loca Lola II 

SM153

George Town, Exuma, Bahamas. 


On Mar 1, 2018, at 8:51 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have an odd halyard that goes up to the first spreader.  The previous owner had looped some heavy line around the lower spreaders and hung a block from it which has a halyard in it.

 

I don't know the reason for it.  #477 came stock with a 3rd main mast halyard (top of mast) for the gennaker (original equipment, it's in the Amel book).  The third main mast halyard would be fine for raising a dinghy so why the odd additional halyard at the spreader?

 

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

Mark Erdos
 

Oh! This discussion is so timely! I hope you are all talking about the halyard that runs through the block about halfway up the front side of the main mast? This is the double block with just one side used for the mystery halyard?

 

I too have wondered what is the purpose of this and basically filed it under the “I’ll figure it out, one day” category.

 

But to complicate things further, we had only ONE extra halyard there. The other side was empty. Then, we had some work done by Amel and they removed our headsail furling motor. When, they were done, they installed yet another halyard. So, now we have TWO halyards (one of each side of this block) about which I ponder the purpose of. These are in addition to the two lifting halyards for the twin pole system.

 

It’s still filed in the same category but it might be nice to know the answer sooner rather than later.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 1:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

 

 

We have that halyard also. In addition to potentially lifting the dinghy (though there are other halyards that can be used for this purpose), I was thinking it was to raise the storm staysail. If not, then perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what would raise it. It certainly would not go to the masthead.

Ian Townsend

S/V Loca Lola II 

SM153

George Town, Exuma, Bahamas. 


On Mar 1, 2018, at 8:51 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have an odd halyard that goes up to the first spreader.  The previous owner had looped some heavy line around the lower spreaders and hung a block from it which has a halyard in it.

 

I don't know the reason for it.  #477 came stock with a 3rd main mast halyard (top of mast) for the gennaker (original equipment, it's in the Amel book).  The third main mast halyard would be fine for raising a dinghy so why the odd additional halyard at the spreader?

 

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Extra halyard???

philipp.sollberger@...
 

Hi all,
I have also on my SM an extra halyard from the lower spreaders with a block. As mentioned from another owner, on this halyard you can put up a storm gjb sail if you have one. Till now I haven't mounted it, but I will this season. Does have anybody made experiences with the storm gjb with this fixation method?

Thanks for any reply.

Fair winds.
Philipp Sollberger,
Félicie, SM #124

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Extra halyard???

Ian Townsend
 

We have that halyard also. In addition to potentially lifting the dinghy (though there are other halyards that can be used for this purpose), I was thinking it was to raise the storm staysail. If not, then perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what would raise it. It certainly would not go to the masthead.

Ian Townsend
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
George Town, Exuma, Bahamas. 

On Mar 1, 2018, at 8:51 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have an odd halyard that goes up to the first spreader.  The previous owner had looped some heavy line around the lower spreaders and hung a block from it which has a halyard in it.


I don't know the reason for it.  #477 came stock with a 3rd main mast halyard (top of mast) for the gennaker (original equipment, it's in the Amel book).  The third main mast halyard would be fine for raising a dinghy so why the odd additional halyard at the spreader?


Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Extra halyard???

amelforme
 

Hi Duane. The previous owner thought it was standard equipment and was surprised when I asked him why it was there. He was the second owner and when I went to Amel to find out what it was for, they said they didn’t know or care, they just put it there at the original owners request.

 

Enigmatic.

 

All The best, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 10:28 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Extra halyard???

 

 

Duane, It sounds like you're describing the topping lift for the downwind poles, although it's hard to picture the "line around the lower spreaders" in your description. Do you have/use a ballooner?  Craig



---In amelyachtowners@..., <sailor63109@...> wrote :

I have an odd halyard that goes up to the first spreader.  The previous owner had looped some heavy line around the lower spreaders and hung a block from it which has a halyard in it.

 

I don't know the reason for it.  #477 came stock with a 3rd main mast halyard (top of mast) for the gennaker (original equipment, it's in the Amel book).  The third main mast halyard would be fine for raising a dinghy so why the odd additional halyard at the spreader?

 

Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: OLDER MARAMU RUDDER REMOVAL

smiles bernard
 

thanks Christian
thats really very helpful
I think if i can afford it its is the way to go!
thanks for the tips too - very useful based on your experience
Many thanks and fair winds
M

On Friday, March 2, 2018, 11:53:01 AM GMT, christian alby calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

good day
some return on my experience

Gel coat renewal on my 1982 Maramu, done in 2017 in South of France by 2 independant contractors (one sanding & polishing, one preparation & application)
cost 6200 Euros (1800 products - 4400 labour - shared between 2 indépendants)
duration 6 weeks (loads of downtime due to Wind carrying dust & particles, humidity when applying products
3 layers - 2 hand application, 1 finishing with air gun
sanding to smooth surface between each
sanding & polishing in the end.
advantage : mechanical protection & looks new
improvement : work done in the open; needs to be Under shelter - building enclosure using water hoses as frame & vinyl tarp adds up 800 Euros, but gains in time spent on hard.

offer by painter using Epiphane medieum quality paint ran at 5800 Euros 
work done in workshop (meant removing masts - extra cost)

did not check for vinyl; guess it works on new gel coat; doubts on how it sticks on hull with low % of humidity builtt in over tim sailing the high seas ...

fair winds
christian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Le Marin



Le ‎jeudi‎ ‎1‎ ‎mars‎ ‎2018‎ ‎17‎:‎25‎:‎24‎ ‎-04, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] a écrit :


 

Many thanks Oliver and James

Alex that sounds like quite a project !


I’ve never seen a re gelcoat job before. 

My 1985 maramu has been painted above the waterline and is in need of a refurb at some point. 
I had assumed it’d be a vinyl wrap?? or most likely awlgrip

I’d be interested in the process you are using and if you think its significantly more costly than the paint job alternative. 

Appreciate that the answer depends on how much is done by others vs diy. 

All the best
Miles


On 1 Mar 2018, at 20:02, alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks James I found it.

Re: Extra halyard???

Duane Siegfri
 

Craig,

I should post a photo.  It's not the topping lifts for the poles, it's another halyard.  I'm thinking someone added it to hoist their dinghy onto the foredeck, although why you wouldn't just use one of the other halyards is a question.

Duane