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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: zink anode of the starboard side doesn’t corrode

Olaf Bauer MIA-AMARA at Yahoo <olaf_renos@...>
 

Hi Bill,

 

Thanks for this information. Will check that when hauling out my little bby 😉

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: 02 September 2018 14:21
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: zink anode of the starboard side doesn’t corrode

 

 

 

Olaf,

 

The only reason that one zinc would not corrode as expected is that it is not making proper electrical contact with the bonding system.  

 

When you are hauled out, check for continuity between the problem zinc, and the rudder post in the aft cabin. You will likely find that the connection is broken.  

 

Once you remove the zinc, you might quickly find the problem with the bolt or the zinc.  If the problem is not obvious right there, you'll need to dive deeper into the internal structure of the rudder to find the problem.  

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Annapolis, MD, USA

 



---In amelyachtowners@..., <olaf_renos@...> wrote :

Hello AMELians,

 

I found out that the zink anode on starboard side doesn't corrode. What could be the reason? What I have to check?

 

The zink anode on portside corrode as expected.

 

 

Thanks so much in advance

 

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Sayonara II, SM2K 392

currently in Martinique

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: zink anode of the starboard side doesn’t corrode

Olaf Bauer MIA-AMARA at Yahoo <olaf_renos@...>
 

Hello Bill,

 

Thanks for this info.

 

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: 02 September 2018 19:02
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: zink anode of the starboard side doesn’t corrode

 

 

Olaf,

 

Possibly this will help you, or, at least make you feel better. 

 

Although I cannot provide any reference for this, I was once told that when a bonding system is connected to more than one anode, the anode depletion be unequal between the anodes and the anode closest to the "load" will deplete first. I believe this to be correct and I have what you describe on many Amels.

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.

 

 

On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 4:55 PM greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Olaf,

 

The only reason that one zinc would not corrode as expected is that it is not making proper electrical contact with the bonding system.  

 

When you are hauled out, check for continuity between the problem zinc, and the rudder post in the aft cabin. You will likely find that the connection is broken.  

 

Once you remove the zinc, you might quickly find the problem with the bolt or the zinc.  If the problem is not obvious right there, you'll need to dive deeper into the internal structure of the rudder to find the problem.  

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Annapolis, MD, USA

 



---In amelyachtowners@..., <olaf_renos@...> wrote :

Hello AMELians,

 

I found out that the zink anode on starboard side doesn't corrode. What could be the reason? What I have to check?

 

The zink anode on portside corrode as expected.

 

 

Thanks so much in advance

 

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Sayonara II, SM2K 392

currently in Martinique

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] What are the todo’s before and after haulot of a SM2K

Olaf Bauer MIA-AMARA at Yahoo <olaf_renos@...>
 

Hi Ken,

 

Thanks so much for your list.

 

Appreciate is very 😊

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: 02 September 2018 15:59
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] What are the todo’s before and after haulot of a SM2K

 

 

If you are leaving the boat on the hard for a while here is a list you may want to think about:

 

 

 

Sea Water Valves

1.     Close all sea water valves. There are two in the engine room.

2.     Put a little vegetable oil in the valves and work them.  Make sure

         you run the engines for at least 1 hour before running the water 

         maker when you return.  No oil should be introduced to water maker.

Salt Water Removal

  1.   Run the engine and Generator for 5 minutes with fresh water.  
  2.   Run the air conditioners with fresh water for 5 minutes.  
  3.   Flush the Toilets with fresh water from the engine room.  
  4.   Run Fresh water through the anchor washClean bilge

   

Bilge

1.     Clean bilge 

2.     Test the bilge pump   

3.     Test the bilge pump alarm.

 

 

Watermaker

  1.   Back flush the water maker membranes.
  2.   Pickle if required.  (or - Find someone to back-flush every week for 10 minutes)

   

Electrical

1.    Turn off all the 24V equipment not to be used.

2.    Turn off fresh water pump.

3.    Circuit breakers in wet locker to be off.

4.    Check current to see if charging or discharging the batteries

5.    Turn off inverter

6.    Bow Thruster locked

7.    Clean out refrigerators

 

On Deck

1.    Loosen Halyards.

2.    Put on Covers as required.

3.    Outboard put away and run with fresh water until all gas is burned out of the carburetor.

4.    Turn off gas bottle valve in trunk.

5.    Take down flags as required

6.    Lock and remove engine key.

7.    Lock all storage lockers.  (From inside Aquarius)

8.    Shut and lock windows/hatches as required. (anywhere water can get in?)

Last - Lock cockpit door.

 

Leaving Aquarius on a mooring ball, or at anchor (Not Recommended)  

1.   Close the valves to water tight doors.

2.   Close water tight doors.

 

Leaving Aquarius for more than a few weeks:

  

1.     Try to have an air conditioner (or De-Humidifier) running if in a humid climate.

2.     Have someone trust worthy to watch over Aquarius.

     a.     Membranes must be flushed every week for 10 minutes.

     b.     Check engine room for any leaks or something wrong.

     c.      Should check the battery level in the morning before 9AM, if below 25V

              at anytime, contact owner.

 



 

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 11:13 AM, "olaf_renos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello AMELians,

 

In two weeks my SM2K will be haul out. For me it is the first time of a haul out with a SM2K.

What would you suggest to do before and (directly) after haul out?

 

That’s my current list:

 

Before haul out

-          Empty the black water tanks and fill up with 0.5 Ltr vegetable oil. Open and close shortly the valves.

 

After haulout

-          Flush the Main engine, the generator and the AC’s with fresh water.

 

 

What else?

 

Thanks so much in advance.

 

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Sayonara II, SM2K 392

currently in Martinique

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iririum Ext. Antenna

Patrick McAneny
 

Kent, I can't remember if you have as much crap running back there as I do, I think it still may be hard ,if not impossible ,but cutting the end off would make it easier . I wasn't sure if I could do that and reinstall it. I may call Patrick, at Marine Electric Systems first ,before I begin cutting.
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, Sep 3, 2018 3:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iririum Ext. Antenna

 
An electrician (Marine Electrical) ran mine Pat.  They cut the connector off and reinstalled it after running the cable.
Kent

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:04 PM, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
I am trying to install an Iridium antenna on the aft starboard rail .The conduit is unfortunately undersized to house all the wires running fore and aft. The antenna wire has a 3/4" connector already installed and I think the chances of pulling it through is nil. The port side would be easier , but then I could not get over to the Nav station. I only see two options, one drill a 3/4" hole in 13 cabinet walls directly under the conduit or second option ,mount it in the aft cabin. If mounted in the aft cabin would the blue tooth signal go through the fiberglass up to the cockpit ? Would the tracking work? Would someone that already has wiring in the conduit for ssb,solar, wind gen.and lights tell me how they ran the cable aft. 
I know some roll the cable out to use it, and roll it up to store it . But the cable is stiff and storing rolled up does not seem like an option I would like . 
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iririum Ext. Antenna

Paul Osterberg
 

Pat
On our most cables going in the " roof" of the Shelf/cupboard that goes aft on starboard side, it is plenty of space to go aft there I pulled my cables and antennas there inclusive SSB antenna, 
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iririum Ext. Antenna

karkauai
 

An electrician (Marine Electrical) ran mine Pat.  They cut the connector off and reinstalled it after running the cable.
Kent

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:04 PM, sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I am trying to install an Iridium antenna on the aft starboard rail .The conduit is unfortunately undersized to house all the wires running fore and aft. The antenna wire has a 3/4" connector already installed and I think the chances of pulling it through is nil. The port side would be easier , but then I could not get over to the Nav station. I only see two options, one drill a 3/4" hole in 13 cabinet walls directly under the conduit or second option ,mount it in the aft cabin. If mounted in the aft cabin would the blue tooth signal go through the fiberglass up to the cockpit ? Would the tracking work? Would someone that already has wiring in the conduit for ssb,solar, wind gen.and lights tell me how they ran the cable aft. 

I know some roll the cable out to use it, and roll it up to store it . But the cable is stiff and storing rolled up does not seem like an option I would like . 

Thanks,

Pat

SM#123


Iririum Ext. Antenna

Patrick McAneny
 

I am trying to install an Iridium antenna on the aft starboard rail .The conduit is unfortunately undersized to house all the wires running fore and aft. The antenna wire has a 3/4" connector already installed and I think the chances of pulling it through is nil. The port side would be easier , but then I could not get over to the Nav station. I only see two options, one drill a 3/4" hole in 13 cabinet walls directly under the conduit or second option ,mount it in the aft cabin. If mounted in the aft cabin would the blue tooth signal go through the fiberglass up to the cockpit ? Would the tracking work? Would someone that already has wiring in the conduit for ssb,solar, wind gen.and lights tell me how they ran the cable aft. 

I know some roll the cable out to use it, and roll it up to store it . But the cable is stiff and storing rolled up does not seem like an option I would like . 

Thanks,

Pat

SM#123


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 1985 Maramu for sale

Bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

Thanks.

On Sep 4, 2018, at 2:21 AM, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I am by no means offended. It could be the very best way to find a new member for our forum! And is not this forum designed to help Amel owners in every stage of ownership?


Please post. Sorry to hear of your sale and hope it goes smoothly and well for you

Porter 
A54-152


Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Sep 3, 2018, at 9:16 AM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bob, I agree with Ken,I see no problem with anyone mentioning that their Amel is offered for sale. This site is followed many many people that hope to purchase an Amel. I would feel differently ,if you were trying to sell miscellaneous items. 

Good Luck,
Pat
SM123


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Sarff bob.sarff@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 3, 2018 9:41 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 1985 Maramu for sale

 
Thanks Ken .  I know that there are some who feel advertising of any kind is not appropriate for this site.  That’s why I began with that comment.

Bob

On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Hello Bob,

I don't think this should offend anyone, and I think it is the right place to let people know you are selling your Amel!!  But that's just me...

Cheers, and hope you find a good sailer to take care of Chara!

Ken
SV Aquarius
SM2K #262


On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:11 PM, "bob.sarff@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
I hope I'm not offending fellow Amel owners by this post.   I know that there are perspective owners who follow this site and wanted them to know that my wife and I are preparing to put our 1985 Maramu on the market and want to give them the first opportunity to own this fine but older yacht.  We've lived on Chara for 10 years and cruised the South Pacific, currently in Fiji.  If anyone is interested and would like additional information please contact me at bob.sarff@...

Respectfully, 
Bob Sarff
S\V Chara



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 1985 Maramu for sale

Bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

Thanks Pat!

On Sep 4, 2018, at 2:16 AM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bob, I agree with Ken,I see no problem with anyone mentioning that their Amel is offered for sale. This site is followed many many people that hope to purchase an Amel. I would feel differently ,if you were trying to sell miscellaneous items. 

Good Luck,
Pat
SM123


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Sarff bob.sarff@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 3, 2018 9:41 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 1985 Maramu for sale

 
Thanks Ken .  I know that there are some who feel advertising of any kind is not appropriate for this site.  That’s why I began with that comment.

Bob

On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Hello Bob,

I don't think this should offend anyone, and I think it is the right place to let people know you are selling your Amel!!  But that's just me...

Cheers, and hope you find a good sailer to take care of Chara!

Ken
SV Aquarius
SM2K #262


On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:11 PM, "bob.sarff@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
I hope I'm not offending fellow Amel owners by this post.   I know that there are perspective owners who follow this site and wanted them to know that my wife and I are preparing to put our 1985 Maramu on the market and want to give them the first opportunity to own this fine but older yacht.  We've lived on Chara for 10 years and cruised the South Pacific, currently in Fiji.  If anyone is interested and would like additional information please contact me at bob.sarff@...

Respectfully, 
Bob Sarff
S\V Chara



Re: Water ingress

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Chris, I will remember to brush my teeth afterwards.
I think it is the transducer it has a smal guiding pig, that I have not noticed before when that in it's slot the transducer is about 5 degree from aligned, obviously the yard did not aligned it properly. I always tried to get it as aligned as possible after pulling it out for cleaning, now I know that the pig has to be in the slot and a little miss-aligned, not a big deal if it solve the problem with water ingress
Paul SY Kerpa SM#259



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Group Member in Need of Assistance

 

Paul,

Amel is the source. The primary contact for ordering parts from Amel is SAV@.... In an emergency you can phone SAV at +33 (0) 546 55 00 75. 

But, the 54, 55 and 64 has overheat protectors for the Main furler and outhaul. They are located near the BOME Breaker and behind a Velcro'd panel in the forward port side berth (photo below). These are fused and these will burn up, especially when someone is "over loading" the motors...they should check these before ordering a new motor & gearbox.


All Orders to SAV should follow these guidelines:
1. The email for parts must be clear and concise. Do not use phrases like, “I think I want to order.”  
2. Use an opening phrase like: “Request for Quote and Availability for the following parts.”
3. List the parts with the best clear and concise description
4. If possible, or if you cannot correctly describe the part, include a photograph of the part(s) 
5. Include your year model and hull#. Example: (2003 - Super Maramu 2000 – Hull #387)
6. Include your complete physical shipping address and phone number (no post office boxes, or postal general delivery because it will be shipped FedEx or similar)
7. Do not specify a shipper. Amel will choose the shipper.
8. When you confirm the Request For Parts (RFQ), include complete credit card information.

Your friends should phone SAV at +33 (0) 546 55 00 75.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 9:49 PM pstas2003@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Friends of ours on an Amel 55 need some assistance.  They have attempted to join the group bu have been unsuccessful. 

They are looking for:

"A wiring diagram for the Amel 55 in mast roller reefing including the motor, the relay and the solenoid?"

Any help would  be appreciated.  I believe they have already contacted Amel with no reply.

All the best.

Paul Stascavage

SM #466
S/V Rita Kathryn



Re: Question about the refrigiration system on an A54

cpp_berkeley <no_reply@...>
 

More confusing data on the pumps:

I am replacing the pumps on my A54 #69, which uses freshwater to cool the fridges and asked Penguin (UK) to supply the Frigoboat A092819C. This is a 12v pump that draws 1.2amps at 12v, pumping 5.7lpm. It is rated for continuous duty.

Instead they sent me the Flojet 4105-343, a 24v pump that draws 1.8amps at 24v, pumping 12.5lpm. 

I informed them that they sent me the wrong pump and they said that the Flojet 4105-343 is the only one they supply for the Frigoboat systems and comes direct from the manufacturer, hence the different branding. 

My quick research indicates that the Frigoboat pump does have a Flojet equivalent, specifically the Flojet 4105-512


The Flojet 4105-343 that I received does NOT specify that it's rated for continuous use and the parts diagram does show a different motor than the Flojet 4105-512. Penguin responded that the standard procedure is to spec the 4105-343 pump, which is 24v and run it at 12v (through the frigoboat interface), effectively slowing it down and making it safe to run continuously. 

I'm no electrical engineer, but does anyone have any thoughts on if Penguin is trying to pull a fast one? Specifically, I'm wondering the effects of running a 24v pump at 12v as it relates to:

1) current draw
2) flow rate
3) longevity

-Scott
A54 Tengah #69





Re: For Sale, Super Maramu # 180

tango708@...
 

Hello Fellow Amel Owners,
Anni Bea True is available for sale in the Annapolis area.  I'll be onboard for showing to interested parties the weekend of September 7-10 and again during the Annapolis boat show.  Consistently maintained and updated ABT is ready for a new owner and to return to sea.  Lots of improvements... re-powered with Yanmar 4JH4-HTE (1,200 hrs.), new oversized US rigging with Stalok terminals top and bottom, new dinghy and outboard, new AGM batteries, new soft furnishings, new bimini and new glass in hard dodger, etc.  Contact me at wtstout at mac dot com for photos, flyer and brief history of yacht.

Warm Regards,

Will


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 1985 Maramu for sale

Porter McRoberts
 

I am by no means offended. It could be the very best way to find a new member for our forum! And is not this forum designed to help Amel owners in every stage of ownership?

Please post. Sorry to hear of your sale and hope it goes smoothly and well for you

Porter 
A54-152


Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Sep 3, 2018, at 9:16 AM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bob, I agree with Ken,I see no problem with anyone mentioning that their Amel is offered for sale. This site is followed many many people that hope to purchase an Amel. I would feel differently ,if you were trying to sell miscellaneous items. 

Good Luck,
Pat
SM123


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Sarff bob.sarff@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Mon, Sep 3, 2018 9:41 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 1985 Maramu for sale

 
Thanks Ken .  I know that there are some who feel advertising of any kind is not appropriate for this site.  That’s why I began with that comment.

Bob

On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Hello Bob,

I don't think this should offend anyone, and I think it is the right place to let people know you are selling your Amel!!  But that's just me...

Cheers, and hope you find a good sailer to take care of Chara!

Ken
SV Aquarius
SM2K #262


On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:11 PM, "bob.sarff@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
I hope I'm not offending fellow Amel owners by this post.   I know that there are perspective owners who follow this site and wanted them to know that my wife and I are preparing to put our 1985 Maramu on the market and want to give them the first opportunity to own this fine but older yacht.  We've lived on Chara for 10 years and cruised the South Pacific, currently in Fiji.  If anyone is interested and would like additional information please contact me at bob.sarff@...

Respectfully, 
Bob Sarff
S\V Chara



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 1985 Maramu for sale

Patrick McAneny
 

Bob, I agree with Ken,I see no problem with anyone mentioning that their Amel is offered for sale. This site is followed many many people that hope to purchase an Amel. I would feel differently ,if you were trying to sell miscellaneous items. 
Good Luck,
Pat
SM123


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Sarff bob.sarff@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, Sep 3, 2018 9:41 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 1985 Maramu for sale

 
Thanks Ken .  I know that there are some who feel advertising of any kind is not appropriate for this site.  That’s why I began with that comment.

Bob

On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Hello Bob,

I don't think this should offend anyone, and I think it is the right place to let people know you are selling your Amel!!  But that's just me...

Cheers, and hope you find a good sailer to take care of Chara!

Ken
SV Aquarius
SM2K #262


On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:11 PM, "bob.sarff@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
I hope I'm not offending fellow Amel owners by this post.   I know that there are perspective owners who follow this site and wanted them to know that my wife and I are preparing to put our 1985 Maramu on the market and want to give them the first opportunity to own this fine but older yacht.  We've lived on Chara for 10 years and cruised the South Pacific, currently in Fiji.  If anyone is interested and would like additional information please contact me at bob.sarff@...

Respectfully, 
Bob Sarff
S\V Chara



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 1985 Maramu for sale

Mark Erdos
 

From previous postings on this topic, I think the general consensus of the group is to allow a posting from a member at the time the boat goes up for sale.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, September 3, 2018 12:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 1985 Maramu for sale

 

 

Thanks Ken .  I know that there are some who feel advertising of any kind is not appropriate for this site.  That’s why I began with that comment.

 

Bob


On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Bob,

 

I don't think this should offend anyone, and I think it is the right place to let people know you are selling your Amel!!  But that's just me...

 

Cheers, and hope you find a good sailer to take care of Chara!

 

Ken

SV Aquarius

SM2K #262

 

On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:11 PM, "bob.sarff@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

I hope I'm not offending fellow Amel owners by this post.   I know that there are perspective owners who follow this site and wanted them to know that my wife and I are preparing to put our 1985 Maramu on the market and want to give them the first opportunity to own this fine but older yacht.  We've lived on Chara for 10 years and cruised the South Pacific, currently in Fiji.  If anyone is interested and would like additional information please contact me at bob.sarff@...

 

Respectfully, 

Bob Sarff

S\V Chara

 


Re: Water ingress

rettirc@...
 

I recently had the same problem.
Having just replaced my transducers i was very worried when I discovered water there.
Anyway I naturally had to know if it was salt or fresh water and carried out a salinity test of the water.
The most accurate method of testing the salinity is by tasting the water!!!!!
It was salty with a hint of something else??
Then, 'the penny dropped'... the hint of something else was........our toilet bowl over flowing on a port tack and finding its way to the bilge where the piping runs.
Our toilets have previously been updated to TMC electric ones.
To confirm this I shut the inlet through valve and the bilge remained dry.
Try it, it worked for me, make sure you brush your teeth after!!!
The joys of boat ownership.
Cheers
Chris
SM224


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ZF transmission

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill, I am glad you mentioned not to screw in the dipstick, I would naturally do so. I think I will use the plug and try not to make a mess.
Thanks Again,
Pat SM123


-----Original Message-----
From: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, Sep 2, 2018 7:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ZF transmission

 

Pat,

My drawings say there is a 17mm drain plug on the starboard side of the ZF25M (the side opposite the shift lever). It is pretty much directly under the dipstick.  I have never gone under there looking for it because I never use it, finding it easier, and much neater, to use my vacuum oil extractor through the dipstick. 

The design of these transmissions is quite old, at least 40 years. Back in those days, transmission fluids were likely much less sophisticated than they are now.  I would imagine with the best of the modern fluids, change interval can be extended, but...  a liter of transmission fluid is cheap, and it seems worth just using the gearbox manufacturer's recommendation and not being cheap ab out it.

Don't forget--when checking the level on this, you do not screw the dipstick in to take a level reading. Just drop it in.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Bill, I am getting ready to change the fluid as well. I have not found a plug ,could you confirm there is one and where, I am surprised that it only takes 3/4 of a liter. I am sure I was told to use 40w oil in the past, its been awhile . I did not think you would need to change it yearly, I am over due by a couple of years. I have 150,000 miles on my truck and I think I have replaced the fluid twice . I wonder if that is why, I needed a new trans a few years ago. I will start changing it ,when I change my oil.
Thanks,
Pat
SM123


-----Original Message-----
From: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sat, Sep 1, 2018 4:46 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ZF transmission

 
Paul,

I think I remember that you have the Volvo TMD22 engine.  If so, this applies to you...

You have to be a very careful talking about the ZF transmissions.  The ZF25M transmission that came on the Volvo TMD22 is a manual shift transmission, and holds about 0.75 liters of DEXTRAN IV automatic transmission fluid, NOT 90 weight oil.  The same exact machine was called an HBW250 before ZF and Hurth joined forces.

Other engines used a ZF25 transmission, which is a hydraulic shifting model with larger horsepower capacity and a completely different design.  It causes no end of confusion with model numbers so similar and actual designs so different!

The recommendation for change interval in my manual for the ZF25M is "Once a year." There is no change interval recommended based on hours of operation.  

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: zink anode of the starbo ard side doesn’t corrode

karkauai
 

My rudder zincs have always eroded equally.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243


On Sep 2, 2018, at 11:35 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Olaf,


I agree with Bill Rouse, if your starboard zinc is just corroding less than, even a lot less than, the port side.  The voltages involved are tiny, and the smallest difference in resistance can significantly affect current flow, which is what controls the rate of erosion--and LOTS of other hard to quantify things.

But, if it is corroding not at all, which was my take away from your post, then something is strange.  It is likely as simple as cleaning the threads on the bolt connection.

If you find that the resistance from zinc to rudder post is low, then it is not a problem.   This is pretty much a routine check when ever my boat is out of the water.  It is easy to do, and it's nice to know everything is connected as it should be.

If both zincs show low resistance, then differences between corrosion rates don't really matter. When one gets small enough, the other takes over.

If one zinc shows a significantly higher resistance than the other, then I think you need to figure out why.  It is probably simple...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 1985 Maramu for sale

Bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

Thanks Ken .  I know that there are some who feel advertising of any kind is not appropriate for this site.  That’s why I began with that comment.

Bob

On Sep 3, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Ken Powers sailingaquarius@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Bob,

I don't think this should offend anyone, and I think it is the right place to let people know you are selling your Amel!!  But that's just me...

Cheers, and hope you find a good sailer to take care of Chara!

Ken
SV Aquarius
SM2K #262


On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 3:11 PM, "bob.sarff@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
I hope I'm not offending fellow Amel owners by this post.   I know that there are perspective owners who follow this site and wanted them to know that my wife and I are preparing to put our 1985 Maramu on the market and want to give them the first opportunity to own this fine but older yacht.  We've lived on Chara for 10 years and cruised the South Pacific, currently in Fiji.  If anyone is interested and would like additional information please contact me at bob.sarff@...

Respectfully, 
Bob Sarff
S\V Chara


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