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Re: Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?

 

I don't know, but I can guess.

I think Amel used that same "mechanical furl" gearbox with some vertical electric furling motors (later model 54 main furler). This may be the reason the drain holes were taken away.
image.png

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:50 AM Sv Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:
Hi all,

In the great document by Gary Silver about the overhaul of the SM Mizzen furler gearbox (thanks Arno for sending us a low bandwidth friendly version), it is mentioned that the bottom part of the gearbox housing is drilled with 2 holes that are used to both unscrew that part (with great efforts) and drain the gearbox of liquids. 

As our gearbox got stiffer recently, I removed it and it appears that those 2 holes are not through openings.. thus not acting as drains. And the gearbox was full of rainwater up to the attachment bolts. Arno tells me he saw the same. 
So the teflon bushing got very dirty and stiff with all sorts of deposits. 

Does anybody know why the drains are no longer machined through? Is it an A54 “innovation”? 
It doesn’t really make sense and I’m thinking of drilling those holes all the way through to reinstate the drain. Any word of advice against that idea?

Thanks for your input

Best, 


Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Tahuata, French Polynesia 


Re: Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Thomas;

 

We had the same stiffening within a year of purchasing Kokomo. It got progressively worse to a point that we felt we may be damaging the gears by placing the amount of force required to furl and unfurl. I removed the gear box and found, as you did, a lot of water inside the box. We were in a situation that we did not have enough time to try and figure out how to get into the gear box and find a permanent solution. We drained it, let it dry out in the sun for a day and sprayed a good amount CorrosionX inside a temporary measure. That was four years ago and the furler has been super smooth since.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sv Garulfo via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:25 PM
To: Amel Yacht owners Group <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?

 

Hi all,

 

In the great document by Gary Silver about the overhaul of the SM Mizzen furler gearbox (thanks Arno for sending us a low bandwidth friendly version), it is mentioned that the bottom part of the gearbox housing is drilled with 2 holes that are used to both unscrew that part (with great efforts) and drain the gearbox of liquids. 

 

As our gearbox got stiffer recently, I removed it and it appears that those 2 holes are not through openings.. thus not acting as drains. And the gearbox was full of rainwater up to the attachment bolts. Arno tells me he saw the same. 

So the teflon bushing got very dirty and stiff with all sorts of deposits. 

 

Does anybody know why the drains are no longer machined through? Is it an A54 “innovation”? 

It doesn’t really make sense and I’m thinking of drilling those holes all the way through to reinstate the drain. Any word of advice against that idea?

 

Thanks for your input

 

Best, 

 

 

Thomas

GARULFO 

A54-122

Tahuata, French Polynesia 

 

 

Re: sonic speed on SM 2000

Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica
 

Hello,

As the old B&G Hydra system gave up on our 54, and also the sonic speed system failed. I did not see a reasonable way to go on and repair the old system. 
So we renewed the windvane and use Triton2 instruments. 
To replace the sonic speed sensor, we choosed the Airmar DST800 tridata sensor. It fits in the through hull of the old deapth sensor and givs all, speed, deapth, sea temperature. 
With that renewal comes an NMEA2k bus and all the old Hydra central cpu and extension processor and all the wiring goes off. 
In that way we did not need to drill a new throughull and keapt the compfortable sonic speed without paddle wheel. 

Oliver from Vela Nautica Amel54#39 
Martinique 

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:30 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Marco,

I sent you an email with the instructions you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:55 AM Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> wrote:
Dear Paul and Arno, 
thanks for your usefull  info. 
Do you have also examined how to remove the old sensor  (  the aft one) and its cable? its frontal part with the probe  seems to be glued in the front part pf the keel.
cheers 
Marco 
SM Desiree , Italy , Naples

Il giorno 13 mag 2020, alle ore 00:09, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> ha scritto:

I just got replacements from here:
 
 
They were delivered to the UK. I Have not used them yet but they look to be correct.
 
Cheers,
Paul
S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Mancini
Sent: 12 May 2020 22:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000
 
 On our SM the sonic speed,  the one with the two sensors,  that is connected to Hydra 200 is giving zero speed on the hydra 2000 monitor. 
This was probably due to the loss of the neoprene cap of the aft  sensor . Unfortunately this probe is out of production from long time.

Please Did  you hknow how to  repair it ?  Do you know how replace the cable and the aft sensor?
thanks 
marco 
Italy SM304 


-- 
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi all,

In the great document by Gary Silver about the overhaul of the SM Mizzen furler gearbox (thanks Arno for sending us a low bandwidth friendly version), it is mentioned that the bottom part of the gearbox housing is drilled with 2 holes that are used to both unscrew that part (with great efforts) and drain the gearbox of liquids. 

As our gearbox got stiffer recently, I removed it and it appears that those 2 holes are not through openings.. thus not acting as drains. And the gearbox was full of rainwater up to the attachment bolts. Arno tells me he saw the same. 
So the teflon bushing got very dirty and stiff with all sorts of deposits. 

Does anybody know why the drains are no longer machined through? Is it an A54 “innovation”? 
It doesn’t really make sense and I’m thinking of drilling those holes all the way through to reinstate the drain. Any word of advice against that idea?

Thanks for your input

Best, 


Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Tahuata, French Polynesia 


Re: Lubricant Oil for the z drive

ULRICH DANGELMEYER
 

Thank you Bill for this final and extensive clarification. Now, everything is clear.

Best Regards
Ulrich
<>
Am 13.05.2020 um 16:21 schrieb CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:

Thierry BALLARD is a good man and a valuable resource to Amel and Amel yacht owners. I like him a lot, but if he told you this, it is not the practice of the Amel yards and it is not what is specified in an Owners Manual which was written at the time that Amel switched. 

About the time that Amel began producing the 55, Amel yards began using 80/90 gear oil that Amel specified in the Amel 55 manual for the C-Drive (photo below). I personally audited Amel employees servicing an Amel 54, changing the C-Drive seals, wear bushing, and oil. They used 80/90 gear oil (photo below). I specifically asked about this and they said they were instructed by Amel to use 80/90 gear oil for all C-drive models. Two years later, I audited them again, and again the same 80/90 gear oil was being used by Amel. I took the below photo of the oil being used by Amel. Note the red circle to the left. There was a PVC pipe, valve, and hose attached to this container. The Amel technician placed the container on the cockpit floor, ran the hose to the C-Drive reservoir, and opened the tap. The exact amount of oil was in the container. I apologize that I did not get a better photo of the PVC pipe and hose, but I am sure that you get the idea.
image.png

The following is a page from the Amel 55 manual:
image.png
 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 7:06 AM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill, I thought that was only for the bow thruster , now for the C-Drive as well? I have still been using 20-40.
Stay Safe,
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lubricant Oil for the z drive

Paolo,

About 4-5 years ago Amel revised the type of oil for the Amel C-Drive to 80/90 Gear Oil
image.png

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 7:31 AM PAOLO CUNEO <pc43ge@...> wrote:
hi all,
locked down home and out of reach of the boat, currently on the dry, and of my owner’s manual, I must instruct a technician about the change of oil of the Amel Z drive. Can anybody remind me the grade or type of oil and quantity?
Many thanks in advance
Paolo  Cuneo
SM 454 Whisper
Genoa, Italy



Re: sonic speed on SM 2000

 

Marco,

I sent you an email with the instructions you need.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:55 AM Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> wrote:
Dear Paul and Arno, 
thanks for your usefull  info. 
Do you have also examined how to remove the old sensor  (  the aft one) and its cable? its frontal part with the probe  seems to be glued in the front part pf the keel.
cheers 
Marco 
SM Desiree , Italy , Naples

Il giorno 13 mag 2020, alle ore 00:09, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> ha scritto:

I just got replacements from here:
 
 
They were delivered to the UK. I Have not used them yet but they look to be correct.
 
Cheers,
Paul
S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Mancini
Sent: 12 May 2020 22:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000
 
 On our SM the sonic speed,  the one with the two sensors,  that is connected to Hydra 200 is giving zero speed on the hydra 2000 monitor. 
This was probably due to the loss of the neoprene cap of the aft  sensor . Unfortunately this probe is out of production from long time.

Please Did  you hknow how to  repair it ?  Do you know how replace the cable and the aft sensor?
thanks 
marco 
Italy SM304 


-- 
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Lubricant Oil for the z drive

 

Thierry BALLARD is a good man and a valuable resource to Amel and Amel yacht owners. I like him a lot, but if he told you this, it is not the practice of the Amel yards and it is not what is specified in an Owners Manual which was written at the time that Amel switched. 

About the time that Amel began producing the 55, Amel yards began using 80/90 gear oil that Amel specified in the Amel 55 manual for the C-Drive (photo below). I personally audited Amel employees servicing an Amel 54, changing the C-Drive seals, wear bushing, and oil. They used 80/90 gear oil (photo below). I specifically asked about this and they said they were instructed by Amel to use 80/90 gear oil for all C-drive models. Two years later, I audited them again, and again the same 80/90 gear oil was being used by Amel. I took the below photo of the oil being used by Amel. Note the red circle to the left. There was a PVC pipe, valve, and hose attached to this container. The Amel technician placed the container on the cockpit floor, ran the hose to the C-Drive reservoir, and opened the tap. The exact amount of oil was in the container. I apologize that I did not get a better photo of the PVC pipe and hose, but I am sure that you get the idea.
image.png

The following is a page from the Amel 55 manual:
image.png
 
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 7:06 AM Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill, I thought that was only for the bow thruster , now for the C-Drive as well? I have still been using 20-40.
Stay Safe,
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lubricant Oil for the z drive

Paolo,

About 4-5 years ago Amel revised the type of oil for the Amel C-Drive to 80/90 Gear Oil
image.png

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 7:31 AM PAOLO CUNEO <pc43ge@...> wrote:
hi all,
locked down home and out of reach of the boat, currently on the dry, and of my owner’s manual, I must instruct a technician about the change of oil of the Amel Z drive. Can anybody remind me the grade or type of oil and quantity?
Many thanks in advance
Paolo  Cuneo
SM 454 Whisper
Genoa, Italy

Re: Lubricant Oil for the "C" (not z) drive

Craig & Katherine Briggs
 
Edited

Ultich and Pat - Here is what Olivier Beaute had to say on the subject 4 years ago. 
Craig

 Beaute Olivier
04/11/16   

Hi Bill,
 
the C-drive has been designed by AMEL in 1989. There has been 3 different designs for the Santorin and Super Maramu, only one for the 54. Until the last 54, AMEL has recommended to use 20W40 oil only because that's the kind of oil you usually have on board (for engine and generator) if you need to top up the C-drive tank. And that would  avoid having two kinds of oil on board. In fact, this C-drive did not need this kind of oil (20W40) as it is made for high temperatures (that you find in a diesel engine). The C-drive oil rarely warms up more than 70°C.
Now, the manufacturer of the C-drive has changed and recommends the 80/90, and probably would deny warranty if this kind of oil is not used.
Again, in order to make things more simple, AMEL decided to use 80/90 gear oil for the new models, but also when they replace the oil in the older C-drives. I have seen Super Maramu's C-drives with SAE 80/90 oil replaced by the AMEL service team in La Rochelle (with the label mentioning the grade of oil and the engine hours attached to the C-drive tank).
 
So, if you (AMEL owners) replace oil in the C-drive, it's OK with 20W40 or 80/90. Don't mix both oils, but in case you do the of oil service of your C-drive, if you don't find one kind of oil, you may replace it with the other kind. 
 
The 55 and 64 owners will just follow what they are told in their owner's manual (SAE 80/90).
 
Cheers.
 
Olivier.

Re: Replacement of carpets in SM

Linda Melton <lindajmelton@...>
 

We did exactly the same. One thing we learnt was to check the underside of the carpet. The one we bought shed a whole lot of the fabric binding material and we were forever sweeping and hoovering the bits. Also, non slip is important, in a seaway you can easily find the carpet moving under your feet ( and it also creeps in the passage way with normal traffic). We ended up only putting the carpet down while anchored or in a marina.

Ian

Ocean Hobo. SN96. (Still locked down and locked out.)

Re: sonic speed on SM 2000

Arno Luijten
 

Given the length of the sensors and the (guestimated) diameter of the hole I would say the sensors are self-aligning just because of the fit.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: Lubricant Oil for the z drive

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill, I thought that was only for the bow thruster , now for the C-Drive as well? I have still been using 20-40.
Stay Safe,
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lubricant Oil for the z drive

Paolo,

About 4-5 years ago Amel revised the type of oil for the Amel C-Drive to 80/90 Gear Oil
image.png

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 7:31 AM PAOLO CUNEO <pc43ge@...> wrote:
hi all,
locked down home and out of reach of the boat, currently on the dry, and of my owner’s manual, I must instruct a technician about the change of oil of the Amel Z drive. Can anybody remind me the grade or type of oil and quantity?
Many thanks in advance
Paolo  Cuneo
SM 454 Whisper
Genoa, Italy

Re: Replacement of carpets in SM

Patrick McAneny
 

We did the same as Gary ,making a template and cutting the carpet,then had the binding done, I think I undercut the carpet about 3/16" to allow for binding. We were surprise how well it all fit,as good as original. Not a hard job ,maybe a few hours,spent more time selecting the carpet,we went with a berber ,as the pile was short . Its been in about seven years and still looks great.
Stay Safe,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Wells <gary@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 9:36 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacement of carpets in SM

Alexander, I am of no help in France but we made our own replacements without too much trouble.

We made a template.from large wrapping paper then bought a "remnant" piece from a big-box store. 

Cutting it with a box cutter was not too hard, just have to be careful.

Once we had the pieces cut out we took them to a real "Carpeting and Flooring" store and asked them to "Bind" the edges which they did nicely in only a couple of days.

We learned that the "Binding" process adds a small amount of extra material to the edges so our pieces were just a tiny bit too big but still fit ok. 

I think we will do it again this summer as the first attempt was mostly an experiment anyway.  It was not very expensive overall. 

Best wishes!

Gary W
SM 209, Adagio
Georgia, USA

Re: sonic speed on SM 2000

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Mohammad,

 

The serial number is 184-00-076/F.

 

I have no way of knowing that the existing ones are identical, but I believe there was an earlier forum discussion on this confirming this serial number.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo
Sent: 12 May 2020 23:52
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000

 

Thanks for the information Paul. Have you checked and confirmed the S/N to be sure this is the correct part for the 54s?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:10 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000

 

I just got replacements from here:

 

https://maxmarineelectronics.com/product/b-g-bg-sonic-speed-replacement-transducer-tube-lg-bung-sensor-184-00-076-f/

 

They were delivered to the UK. I Have not used them yet but they look to be correct.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Mancini
Sent: 12 May 2020 22:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000

 

 On our SM the sonic speed,  the one with the two sensors,  that is connected to Hydra 200 is giving zero speed on the hydra 2000 monitor.
This was probably due to the loss of the neoprene cap of the aft  sensor . Unfortunately this probe is out of production from long time.

Please Did  you hknow how to  repair it ?  Do you know how replace the cable and the aft sensor?
thanks
marco
Italy SM304


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: sonic speed on SM 2000

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Arno,

 

This is good info. Should there be any precautions taken to ensure they are correctly aligned?

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Luijten
Sent: 13 May 2020 11:12
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000

 

Hi Marco,

The Ebay link and the Maxmarineshop link are actually one and the same vendor.

The partnumber seems to match the partnumber referred to in the installation manual of B&G, assuming Amel used the straight version. They came in the original B&G box carrying that number.

I have not examined the way the are mounted in detail as mine are still working. But they must be mounted from the underside I would say. There is a tube inside the hull leading all the way into the bilge. 

I’m guessing the sensor is pushed in the hole bedded in Sikaflex. So I’m sure it will be a pig to remove once the time comes. I guess the best way is by drilling a hole in the face of the sensor and putting in a large screw to get some leverage to pull it out. Remember to tie a piece of string to the other end to feed in the new sensor once the old one is out. 

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: sonic speed on SM 2000

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Marco,

The Ebay link and the Maxmarineshop link are actually one and the same vendor.

The partnumber seems to match the partnumber referred to in the installation manual of B&G, assuming Amel used the straight version. They came in the original B&G box carrying that number.

I have not examined the way the are mounted in detail as mine are still working. But they must be mounted from the underside I would say. There is a tube inside the hull leading all the way into the bilge. 

I’m guessing the sensor is pushed in the hole bedded in Sikaflex. So I’m sure it will be a pig to remove once the time comes. I guess the best way is by drilling a hole in the face of the sensor and putting in a large screw to get some leverage to pull it out. Remember to tie a piece of string to the other end to feed in the new sensor once the old one is out. 

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: Lubricant Oil for the z drive

ULRICH DANGELMEYER
 

Hi, Paolo and Bill,

that's very interesting:
last year before my oil change in the Z-drive I asked AMEL SAV , Thierry, for the exact amount and specification. Next to the oil reservoir in the engine room at the bulkhead, there is a sign on my 54 with the strict indication of 20W- 4o oil. Thierry confirmed this as a directly recommended oil type. This specification is not very popular and one could also switch to 15W-40.
The total quantity is 8 litres.
So I ordered the 20W-40 oil (semi-synthetic and especially for marine use) from a German oil company in the web 
and did the oil change with it.
Bill, obviously you have some other service information, or does it only concern the SM Z-Drives? That would be important for me to know too.

Thanks for clarification.
Best regards and stay healthy.

Ulrich Michael
"Soleil Bleu" /54#088

Re: sonic speed on SM 2000

Marco Mancini
 

Dear Paul and Arno, 
thanks for your usefull  info. 
Do you have also examined how to remove the old sensor  (  the aft one) and its cable? its frontal part with the probe  seems to be glued in the front part pf the keel.
cheers 
Marco 
SM Desiree , Italy , Naples

Il giorno 13 mag 2020, alle ore 00:09, Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> ha scritto:

I just got replacements from here:
 
 
They were delivered to the UK. I Have not used them yet but they look to be correct.
 
Cheers,
Paul
S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Mancini
Sent: 12 May 2020 22:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000
 
 On our SM the sonic speed,  the one with the two sensors,  that is connected to Hydra 200 is giving zero speed on the hydra 2000 monitor. 
This was probably due to the loss of the neoprene cap of the aft  sensor . Unfortunately this probe is out of production from long time.

Please Did  you hknow how to  repair it ?  Do you know how replace the cable and the aft sensor?
thanks 
marco 
Italy SM304 


-- 
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Teun,

Danny

On 13 May 2020 at 10:24 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,

 

The actual insurer who covers 100% of this risks is

ERGO Versicherung AG

AG ERGO

Platz 1 40198 Düsseldorf Germany 

 

 

This is what I sent to Penny & Barry this morning:

 

As promised this is the contact info for the insurance agent I had for the last 3 years for AMELIT.

He was able to get me an increased “agreed” value for the hull, machinery and equipment; he operates out of THAILAND; they are also in FRENCH POLYNESIA but the company main office is in NEW CALEDONIA.

 

Christophe GEORGE
Senior insurances consultant - marine branch

Poe-ma Underwriting & Management Asia Ltd (PUMA) - Poe-ma insurances Group
C/o PTIB, 48/11 Moo 9, Sunrise Road, T. Chalong, Phuket 83130,Thailand

+66(0)92 542 0505 (UTC+7)
E mail: christophe.g@...

 

And these are the other agents but they all came with the same insurance company in Germany; except lower agreed values (but at a lower premium).

 

In NEW ZEALAND:

 

Bill

Director

The Marina Shop Ltd

Tel +64 9 402 6093

Fax +64 9 402 6091

Email - bill@...

Skype - bill-boi & bill@...

Web - www.themarinashop.com

 

 

IN UK:

 

Chris McGowan
Managing Director | Topsail Insurance Ltd
Director
| Topsail Insurance Pty. Ltd.

 

Contactable in the United Kingdom:

4-6 Octagon Offices, Waterfront, Brighton Marina, Brighton, BN2 5WB
Direct Dial.        + 44 (0) 1273 573 722
Phone.              + 44 (0) 1273 573 727

Email.                chris@...

Website.            www.topsailinsurance.com

 

Australia

PERTH
260B Preston Point Road, Bicton. Perth. WA  6157

Phone:             + 61 (0) 8 6102 8861
SYDNEY

The Catalina Anchorage, 1/235 Spit Road, Mosman. NSW 2088

Phone:             + 61 (0) 2 9188 7828

Email:               enquiries@...

Website:           www.topsailinsurance.com.au

 

 

 

 

In USA:

 

 

 

~Elliott F. Golden

  Agent, Manifest Marine

  604 Stonewall Lane

  Fredericksburg, Virginia 22407

  410-490-9020 · fax 540-785-0398

 

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 12, 2020 15:23:59

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 13:45
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz

 

Hi Teun, there certainly seems to be a widespread reluctance to insure off shore yachts. Who is the company that gave you your cover and the broker that arranged it.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 13 May 2020 at 04:22 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:

Hi Barry,

 

Have now received my policy for AMELIT on  very acceptable conditions & agreed value.

 

FWIW: I also received a quote from the last agency recommended via this AYOG forum and he also came with the same insurance company. All 3 agents advised me that the carrier didn’t want to increase the agreed hull/machinery/equipment (HMEV) value except my current agent was able to have the HMEV increased to a level I preferred.

Very worrying that out of 8 agencies only 4 were able to offer me a cover at all and ALL 4 agents proposals came from the same European Insurance company

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 12, 2020 09:16:11

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 09:53
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz

 

Hi Barry,

 

Sorry for late reply.

 

As soon as I have a copy of the policy I will send you the requested information.

However, so far nothing. This is the latest feedback I have from the agent:

 

QUOTE

 

I called GYC several times yesterday but the office was not open because of the 8th of May day.

Trust I will receive the policy today.

So sorry, I know you need  the certificate for the marina.

Will revert shortly.

 

 

UNQUOTE

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 9, 2020 09:52:33

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 10:20
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz

 

Hi Teun and Mohammad,

Teun, I have an Australian friend who is having trouble getting insurance. Can you give me the broker that you went with, maybe the NZ broker as well. They just lost cover that they took out 2 months ago through a Caribbean crook. If anyone wants to know who the company was, please ask.

 

Mohammad, when the lock down is eased I am visiting Oliver who is anchored in front of me. I will be doing the same as your plan and designing the new lithium battery system. I will let you know what I find out as I progress. Things are getting better and easier every year.

Can you imagine what this lockdown is doing to people. In nearly 40 years Penny and I have never gone for a month without shopping or spending any money.

 

Best

 

Barry and Penny

“SV Lady Penelope II”

Amel 54.  #17

Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique 

 

 

On May 5, 2020, at 16:08, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

 

Hi Teun;

 

Can you please forward your Victron Contact if you think they would be helpful in design and selection.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 12:47 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz

 

Teun,

You're using the VEConfig software to adjust the inverter low voltage cutoff? I have successfully changed that on the Inverter tab "DC input low shut-down". Then you have to "Send Settings" to the Quattro otherwise it won't save them.

If you are still having problems, I have a contact with Victron that is quite responsive. Maybe Dutch people don't like other Dutch people? ;) We've had over 30 emails back and forth. FYI he suggested 20v as the input low voltage cutoff and 21.5v as the input low restart.

Additionally, try here. This may be even better. They're almost as helpful as the AYOG :)

https://community.victronenergy.com/index.html
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

 

 


 


 

 



 


 

Re: sonic speed on SM 2000

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks for the information Paul. Have you checked and confirmed the S/N to be sure this is the correct part for the 54s?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 3:10 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000

 

I just got replacements from here:

 

https://maxmarineelectronics.com/product/b-g-bg-sonic-speed-replacement-transducer-tube-lg-bung-sensor-184-00-076-f/

 

They were delivered to the UK. I Have not used them yet but they look to be correct.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marco Mancini
Sent: 12 May 2020 22:17
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] sonic speed on SM 2000

 

 On our SM the sonic speed,  the one with the two sensors,  that is connected to Hydra 200 is giving zero speed on the hydra 2000 monitor.
This was probably due to the loss of the neoprene cap of the aft  sensor . Unfortunately this probe is out of production from long time.

Please Did  you hknow how to  repair it ?  Do you know how replace the cable and the aft sensor?
thanks
marco
Italy SM304


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Washing Machine and 50 htz

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Danny,

 

The actual insurer who covers 100% of this risks is

ERGO Versicherung AG

AG ERGO

Platz 1 40198 Düsseldorf Germany 

 

 

This is what I sent to Penny & Barry this morning:

 

As promised this is the contact info for the insurance agent I had for the last 3 years for AMELIT.

He was able to get me an increased “agreed” value for the hull, machinery and equipment; he operates out of THAILAND; they are also in FRENCH POLYNESIA but the company main office is in NEW CALEDONIA.

 

Christophe GEORGE
Senior insurances consultant - marine branch

Poe-ma Underwriting & Management Asia Ltd (PUMA) - Poe-ma insurances Group
C/o PTIB, 48/11 Moo 9, Sunrise Road, T. Chalong, Phuket 83130,Thailand

+66(0)92 542 0505 (UTC+7)
E mail: christophe.g@...

 

And these are the other agents but they all came with the same insurance company in Germany; except lower agreed values (but at a lower premium).

 

In NEW ZEALAND:

 

Bill

Director

The Marina Shop Ltd

Tel +64 9 402 6093

Fax +64 9 402 6091

Email - bill@...

Skype - bill-boi & bill@...

Web - www.themarinashop.com

 

 

IN UK:

 

Chris McGowan
Managing Director | Topsail Insurance Ltd
Director
| Topsail Insurance Pty. Ltd.

 

Contactable in the United Kingdom:

4-6 Octagon Offices, Waterfront, Brighton Marina, Brighton, BN2 5WB
Direct Dial.        + 44 (0) 1273 573 722
Phone.              + 44 (0) 1273 573 727

Email.                chris@...

Website.            www.topsailinsurance.com

 

Australia

PERTH
260B Preston Point Road, Bicton. Perth. WA  6157

Phone:             + 61 (0) 8 6102 8861
SYDNEY

The Catalina Anchorage, 1/235 Spit Road, Mosman. NSW 2088

Phone:             + 61 (0) 2 9188 7828

Email:               enquiries@...

Website:           www.topsailinsurance.com.au

 

 

 

 

In USA:

 

 

 

~Elliott F. Golden

  Agent, Manifest Marine

  604 Stonewall Lane

  Fredericksburg, Virginia 22407

  410-490-9020 · fax 540-785-0398

 

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 12, 2020 15:23:59

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 13:45
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz

 

Hi Teun, there certainly seems to be a widespread reluctance to insure off shore yachts. Who is the company that gave you your cover and the broker that arranged it.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 13 May 2020 at 04:22 Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:

Hi Barry,

 

Have now received my policy for AMELIT on  very acceptable conditions & agreed value.

 

FWIW: I also received a quote from the last agency recommended via this AYOG forum and he also came with the same insurance company. All 3 agents advised me that the carrier didn’t want to increase the agreed hull/machinery/equipment (HMEV) value except my current agent was able to have the HMEV increased to a level I preferred.

Very worrying that out of 8 agencies only 4 were able to offer me a cover at all and ALL 4 agents proposals came from the same European Insurance company

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 12, 2020 09:16:11

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 09:53
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz

 

Hi Barry,

 

Sorry for late reply.

 

As soon as I have a copy of the policy I will send you the requested information.

However, so far nothing. This is the latest feedback I have from the agent:

 

QUOTE

 

I called GYC several times yesterday but the office was not open because of the 8th of May day.

Trust I will receive the policy today.

So sorry, I know you need  the certificate for the marina.

Will revert shortly.

 

 

UNQUOTE

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

On the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 9, 2020 09:52:33

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2020 10:20
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz

 

Hi Teun and Mohammad,

Teun, I have an Australian friend who is having trouble getting insurance. Can you give me the broker that you went with, maybe the NZ broker as well. They just lost cover that they took out 2 months ago through a Caribbean crook. If anyone wants to know who the company was, please ask.

 

Mohammad, when the lock down is eased I am visiting Oliver who is anchored in front of me. I will be doing the same as your plan and designing the new lithium battery system. I will let you know what I find out as I progress. Things are getting better and easier every year.

Can you imagine what this lockdown is doing to people. In nearly 40 years Penny and I have never gone for a month without shopping or spending any money.

 

Best

 

Barry and Penny

“SV Lady Penelope II”

Amel 54.  #17

Sainte Anne anchorage Martinique 

 

 

On May 5, 2020, at 16:08, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

 

Hi Teun;

 

Can you please forward your Victron Contact if you think they would be helpful in design and selection.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2020 12:47 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Washing Machine and 50 htz

 

Teun,

You're using the VEConfig software to adjust the inverter low voltage cutoff? I have successfully changed that on the Inverter tab "DC input low shut-down". Then you have to "Send Settings" to the Quattro otherwise it won't save them.

If you are still having problems, I have a contact with Victron that is quite responsive. Maybe Dutch people don't like other Dutch people? ;) We've had over 30 emails back and forth. FYI he suggested 20v as the input low voltage cutoff and 21.5v as the input low restart.

Additionally, try here. This may be even better. They're almost as helpful as the AYOG :)

https://community.victronenergy.com/index.html
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com