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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck light / Steaming light SM2000

Tim Melbourne
 

Mark, Alan,
My steaming/deck light just self-destructed.
Did the holes line up for this new unit versus the original Amel installed, or did you have to drill any new holes in the mast? 
Thanks
Tim
SM2K #306


Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia
 

Scott,

Michelle and I will be doing something similar in the near future.  In addition, I would like to add the ability to turn on the mizzen light on command as well, upon return to the boat.

We are looking at moving to a digital switch to perform both functions.  With the digital switch we can use any marine light we want, and use a remote (key fob, garage door opener, etc) to carried with us on the dinghy.  Simple tap into switched 12/24V, a little programming of the relay, and routing to device.

I think it cleaner than dealing with motion sensors on a moving vessel.

Matt


Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia
 

Chris,

All the major electronics brands use the Airmar sensors.  All will work on your NMEA2K network.

We elected for a DST810 sensor with the paddle wheel.  Now Airmar has recently brought out the DX900 that is all ultrasonic.  Seems like a cool piece of kit...lower maintenance for sure.  However, I can't seem to find one in stock in the market, and the quoted prices are at least 2X the DST810.

I am now questioning if I change to the DX900, or just have a spare DST810 (clean it in my own time after change).

Either way you will have to replace the original thru hull with a larger unit. We opted for the bronze unit because I just don't like the idea of a plastic fitting as a critical component. 

Matt  


Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

eric freedman
 

Hi Chris,

Airmar also makes a speed transducer that does not have a paddle wheel.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Chris Doucette
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 10:49 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

 

As most of my sailing instramentation and hardware is now NMEA 2000, the last two sensors I need to address are the transducers (Depth, Temp, Speed).  After these I can Retire my Hydra 2000 and all the assicated mountain of wires.

I have three devices in the forward hallway floor hatch- all of them seem to be analog and designed to connect to the Hydra. 
1) Some small temperature sensor transduces that is not hooked up.
2) A "small diameter"  depth sounder (two wires pins 29,30 oh hydra) with a cable that has Airmar tranducer printed on it.
3) A "Larger diameter" Airmar ST850 device (Speed and Temp) (ST850-INS-BG P/N: 31-590-23-02)

I "think" that the ST850 device is a P17 housing ( 51mm or 2") from searches. 



Proposed soluton-
There is this device that seems like it could be fit for replacing the ST850 that has NMEA 2K Speed, Depth, and Temp.  
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/simrad--dst800-nmea-2000-thru-hull-traditional-transducer--12019311?recordNum=7

Am I correct that this would work? I am sure otherse here have done something simalar-   I also think Brian for Delos may have for instance.  
Am I not thinking of something or have this all wrong?  What have you done?

Thank you !

Chris 
S/V Amarok #385


Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Chris Doucette
 

As most of my sailing instramentation and hardware is now NMEA 2000, the last two sensors I need to address are the transducers (Depth, Temp, Speed).  After these I can Retire my Hydra 2000 and all the assicated mountain of wires.

I have three devices in the forward hallway floor hatch- all of them seem to be analog and designed to connect to the Hydra. 
1) Some small temperature sensor transduces that is not hooked up.
2) A "small diameter"  depth sounder (two wires pins 29,30 oh hydra) with a cable that has Airmar tranducer printed on it.
3) A "Larger diameter" Airmar ST850 device (Speed and Temp) (ST850-INS-BG P/N: 31-590-23-02)

I "think" that the ST850 device is a P17 housing ( 51mm or 2") from searches. 



Proposed soluton-
There is this device that seems like it could be fit for replacing the ST850 that has NMEA 2K Speed, Depth, and Temp.  
https://www.westmarine.com/buy/simrad--dst800-nmea-2000-thru-hull-traditional-transducer--12019311?recordNum=7

Am I correct that this would work? I am sure otherse here have done something simalar-   I also think Brian for Delos may have for instance.  
Am I not thinking of something or have this all wrong?  What have you done?

Thank you !

Chris 
S/V Amarok #385



Re: Jib sheet traveller - resource for new spiral springs or rubber buffers

Michael & Robyn
 

Greetings!

try https://euromarinetrading.com/
this is where we got our ANTAL spare parts. Very responsive, very knowledgeable.
--
Michael & Robyn

SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417


Re: 24v Raymarine Linear Drive Clutch Opperation by NAC-3

Chris Doucette
 

Update-

NAC-3 is up and opperational!  Thank you for all the feedback-  a quality  25 Ohm resistor did the trick! Shore provisioning complete :). 


Re: Linear drive installation

Patrick McAneny
 

Rob, I have not seen the pictures in years ,but you should be able to see them in the photo/file section. Assuming you do not have a factory installed linear drive and would like to install one ,take a look ,any questions ,don't hesitate to ask.
Pat
Sm Shenanigans #123


-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Smith <robfromcornwall.1966@...>
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Mar 21, 2021 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Linear drive installation

Hi Pat

I'd be very interested in seeing your linear drive installation pictures too.

Regards
Rob

FORESIGHT 

SM #152

On Sun, 21 Mar 2021, 12:51 Patrick McAneny via groups.io, <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Eamonn, You came to the same conclusion as I did. I originally took a photo from an Amel  with a factory installed drive ,and intended to install mine in the same way. It became clear that to do so, I would need to cut out structural stringers and cut out the tabbing that secured the plywood bed base on the starboard side to remove it ,none of which I was willing to do. Also to mount the drive and to calculate the throw (travel) of the arm ,would have been very hard . As you said , the way I installed it ,only required a small amount of cosmetic change ,and I enclosed the arm within a small mahogany box that is up and out of the way,which you never even notice .
From my photos you can see where I mounted the base to the bulkhead under the bed , I added (epoxied ) backing plates and spacers . I will take some addition photos and measurements and send them along or place them in the photo section along with the rest of my photos on the subject,if that is possible. I will have to consult with my in house nerd , Diane on that. It is all that I can do to reply (type) with my two index fingers. They did not teach typing back in my day , as it was before the invention of the typewriter. Well my fingers are sore ,see ya.
Pat 
SM Shenanigans #123


-----Original Message-----
From: Eamonn Washington <eamonn.washington@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2021 10:54 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Linear drive installation

Hi Pat

it seems that Amel installed autopilots directly on the quadrant which were based on the aft arm of the quadrant being extended aft.  Older Super Maramus cannot extend the quadrant aft without making structural changes to the stringers, which is an unnecessary risk.  So your solution of extending the forward arm of the quadrant with cosmetic changes only (not structural) is the way to go.

Yes it would be helpful if you measured the thickness of the arm extension that you welded onto the quadrant.  I would be tempted to continue the quadrant extension with metal of the same thickness, or even to make a new one piece extended quadrant.   The dimensions of the extension would be useful too, as well as a close up photo of the extension piece.  No rush, it will be a while before I am allowed near the boat.

Many thanks
--
Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Ireland


Re: Cockpit locker leak?

Porter McRoberts
 

I take everything out and climb in with a flashlight. If I can fit. Then have the crew spray the area with water. 


Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152 Tahiti 
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Mar 21, 2021, at 12:23 PM, Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> wrote:

Kevin, 

For pesky, hard to find leaks a technique that has helped me several times is to liberally dust the suspected area with talcum power or corn starch.  It makes it much easier to follow the trail back to the source.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL, USA


Re: Cockpit locker leak?

Bill Kinney
 

Kevin, 

For pesky, hard to find leaks a technique that has helped me several times is to liberally dust the suspected area with talcum power or corn starch.  It makes it much easier to follow the trail back to the source.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL, USA


Re: Cockpit locker leak?

 

there is a "gutter" on the port edge of the inside of the hatch. Fill it with water and check for drainage or a drain clog.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 9:06 AM Kevin Schmit <kevschmit64@...> wrote:
Hello  fellow Amelians,

After some heavy rain last night I noticed a fair amount of fresh water accumulating inside our SM cockpit locker.

I figured before I climbed inside the locker with a flashlight while my wife runs the hose over the deck and cockpit to try to pinpoint the source for this pesky leak I’d check with the brain trust to see if there’s a common leak source first?  Cockpit gaskets are all new and intact.

Thanks for the assist.


--
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362






Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Robert Giroux <rg@...>
 

I’ll let you know, I’ve ordered one.

 

 

Regards,

Robert Giroux

(202)262-5828

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 3:05 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

 

Robert,

 

Have you tried this light? Seems the sensor only works if you put your hand right in front of it. In other words, it wouldn't detect someone climbing on your transom.

 

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 3:22 PM Robert Giroux <rg@...> wrote:

Oops, sent wrong item.  5" Motion Sensor RV LED Porch Light Fixture Security Marine Boat Utility 12v 24v Motorhome Camper Van auto Semi Truck Travel Trailer Bed Overland Water Proof Heavy Duty Interior Exterior https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07685N5WR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_8VMKEG9EQNQYVJYX6CZH?psc=1

Regards,

 

Robert Giroux

(202)262-5828



On Mar 21, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Robert Giroux <rg@...> wrote:

 I think this meets most requirements, it’s for RV/boats:

 

OZ-USA Exterior Interior LED Porch Light Fixutre (5 inch-Touch Switch) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHBFF6Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_5B8BF4YKC74XS0WEN68D?psc=1

 

Regards,

 

Robert Giroux

(202)262-5828



On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Hey Amelians,

I figure someone has found/installed a motion-activated 24v LED light. We would like to have it there so that when we dinghy back at night and hop on the swim step, the light comes on for say, 30 seconds. That's the primary use but, of course, it would function as a security light, too.

A few more features I'd love to have:

- IP68 waterproof or better
- Mounts easily on 2 inch / 5cm stainless tubing
- Wide enough sensor coverage so the light will come on if you step anywhere on the stern. But not so sensitive that waves trigger it.
- 24v as I have that wiring in place, already. Solar would be ok, too.
- Only comes on if it detects motion at night.

Anyone find/install anything that meets these requirements?

Thanks!

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Linear drive installation

Rob Smith
 

Hi Pat

I'd be very interested in seeing your linear drive installation pictures too.

Regards
Rob

FORESIGHT 

SM #152

On Sun, 21 Mar 2021, 12:51 Patrick McAneny via groups.io, <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Eamonn, You came to the same conclusion as I did. I originally took a photo from an Amel  with a factory installed drive ,and intended to install mine in the same way. It became clear that to do so, I would need to cut out structural stringers and cut out the tabbing that secured the plywood bed base on the starboard side to remove it ,none of which I was willing to do. Also to mount the drive and to calculate the throw (travel) of the arm ,would have been very hard . As you said , the way I installed it ,only required a small amount of cosmetic change ,and I enclosed the arm within a small mahogany box that is up and out of the way,which you never even notice .
From my photos you can see where I mounted the base to the bulkhead under the bed , I added (epoxied ) backing plates and spacers . I will take some addition photos and measurements and send them along or place them in the photo section along with the rest of my photos on the subject,if that is possible. I will have to consult with my in house nerd , Diane on that. It is all that I can do to reply (type) with my two index fingers. They did not teach typing back in my day , as it was before the invention of the typewriter. Well my fingers are sore ,see ya.
Pat 
SM Shenanigans #123


-----Original Message-----
From: Eamonn Washington <eamonn.washington@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2021 10:54 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Linear drive installation

Hi Pat

it seems that Amel installed autopilots directly on the quadrant which were based on the aft arm of the quadrant being extended aft.  Older Super Maramus cannot extend the quadrant aft without making structural changes to the stringers, which is an unnecessary risk.  So your solution of extending the forward arm of the quadrant with cosmetic changes only (not structural) is the way to go.

Yes it would be helpful if you measured the thickness of the arm extension that you welded onto the quadrant.  I would be tempted to continue the quadrant extension with metal of the same thickness, or even to make a new one piece extended quadrant.   The dimensions of the extension would be useful too, as well as a close up photo of the extension piece.  No rush, it will be a while before I am allowed near the boat.

Many thanks
--
Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Ireland


Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Scott SV Tengah
 

Robert,

Have you tried this light? Seems the sensor only works if you put your hand right in front of it. In other words, it wouldn't detect someone climbing on your transom.

On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 3:22 PM Robert Giroux <rg@...> wrote:
Oops, sent wrong item.  5" Motion Sensor RV LED Porch Light Fixture Security Marine Boat Utility 12v 24v Motorhome Camper Van auto Semi Truck Travel Trailer Bed Overland Water Proof Heavy Duty Interior Exterior https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07685N5WR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_8VMKEG9EQNQYVJYX6CZH?psc=1

Regards,

 

Robert Giroux

(202)262-5828


On Mar 21, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Robert Giroux <rg@...> wrote:

 I think this meets most requirements, it’s for RV/boats:

OZ-USA Exterior Interior LED Porch Light Fixutre (5 inch-Touch Switch) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHBFF6Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_5B8BF4YKC74XS0WEN68D?psc=1


Regards,

 

Robert Giroux

(202)262-5828


On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Hey Amelians,

I figure someone has found/installed a motion-activated 24v LED light. We would like to have it there so that when we dinghy back at night and hop on the swim step, the light comes on for say, 30 seconds. That's the primary use but, of course, it would function as a security light, too.

A few more features I'd love to have:

- IP68 waterproof or better
- Mounts easily on 2 inch / 5cm stainless tubing
- Wide enough sensor coverage so the light will come on if you step anywhere on the stern. But not so sensitive that waves trigger it.
- 24v as I have that wiring in place, already. Solar would be ok, too.
- Only comes on if it detects motion at night.

Anyone find/install anything that meets these requirements?

Thanks!

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Galley sink drain

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal
 

Thanks Mark,

I do use the filter in both sinks . Will try the vinegar route as well.


Nick
SM404
SV Rascal
Antigua 

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On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 11:33 AM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Use a fine stainless strainer in the sink and pour a gallon of vinegar in down the sink periodically.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

 




Re: Galley sink drain

Mark Erdos
 

Use a fine stainless strainer in the sink and pour a gallon of vinegar in down the sink periodically.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

 


Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Robert Giroux <rg@...>
 

Oops, sent wrong item.  5" Motion Sensor RV LED Porch Light Fixture Security Marine Boat Utility 12v 24v Motorhome Camper Van auto Semi Truck Travel Trailer Bed Overland Water Proof Heavy Duty Interior Exterior https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07685N5WR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_8VMKEG9EQNQYVJYX6CZH?psc=1

Regards,

 

Robert Giroux

(202)262-5828


On Mar 21, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Robert Giroux <rg@...> wrote:

 I think this meets most requirements, it’s for RV/boats:

OZ-USA Exterior Interior LED Porch Light Fixutre (5 inch-Touch Switch) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHBFF6Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_5B8BF4YKC74XS0WEN68D?psc=1


Regards,

 

Robert Giroux

(202)262-5828


On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Hey Amelians,

I figure someone has found/installed a motion-activated 24v LED light. We would like to have it there so that when we dinghy back at night and hop on the swim step, the light comes on for say, 30 seconds. That's the primary use but, of course, it would function as a security light, too.

A few more features I'd love to have:

- IP68 waterproof or better
- Mounts easily on 2 inch / 5cm stainless tubing
- Wide enough sensor coverage so the light will come on if you step anywhere on the stern. But not so sensitive that waves trigger it.
- 24v as I have that wiring in place, already. Solar would be ok, too.
- Only comes on if it detects motion at night.

Anyone find/install anything that meets these requirements?

Thanks!

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Robert Giroux <rg@...>
 

I think this meets most requirements, it’s for RV/boats:

OZ-USA Exterior Interior LED Porch Light Fixutre (5 inch-Touch Switch) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BHBFF6Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_5B8BF4YKC74XS0WEN68D?psc=1


Regards,

 

Robert Giroux

(202)262-5828


On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Hey Amelians,

I figure someone has found/installed a motion-activated 24v LED light. We would like to have it there so that when we dinghy back at night and hop on the swim step, the light comes on for say, 30 seconds. That's the primary use but, of course, it would function as a security light, too.

A few more features I'd love to have:

- IP68 waterproof or better
- Mounts easily on 2 inch / 5cm stainless tubing
- Wide enough sensor coverage so the light will come on if you step anywhere on the stern. But not so sensitive that waves trigger it.
- 24v as I have that wiring in place, already. Solar would be ok, too.
- Only comes on if it detects motion at night.

Anyone find/install anything that meets these requirements?

Thanks!

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Galley sink drain

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal
 

Joerg,

Not sure I am the expert here, but here goes with my 10cents worth.

The hose from the sink bilge runs back through into the engine room. I assume that this is the original route, feeding into the grey bilge. 

There is a bilge pump mounted on the engine Bay bulkhead that is triggered by the grey water bilge under the sink. This pump gulps the waste from the bilge and via a looping vertical and then heads across to  port, route, then enters the main grey water bilge outflow hose, via a “Y” connect and then out out the boat via the main grey water bilge hose. 

It works ok, but I donot t put any solids at all down it. 

I have cleaned both bilges in the past month. I sense that I will have to clean the sink bilge more often to prevent any odour from this. I have noticed that after 10 days on the hard it was pretty ripe, so have cleaned it again. 

With regards the macerated idea. Not sure I am the expert, but intuitively I would be concerned that it would struggle to do the lift and pump out over such a distance. Again, I am the uneducated at such things, maybe in series with a bilge pump. 

Hope this helps

Again, I’m not sure I’ll keep the solution I was presented. For now, it works, easier to clean , so it stays.... but I am very diligent about what goes in, much like I would be if the original / proper Amel SM setup. 

Nick

SV Rascal
SM 404
Antigua 

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On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 11:42 AM, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313@...> wrThanks for the post, Alan.  Good to be able to think about potential improvements if we cannot sail or even realistically plan sailing soon.   I am considering installing something similar on my A55 but the pictures are not clear to me since I’m not familiar enough with the SM.  How is the exit hose from the tank run - which seacock does it use?   I think it would be preferable to have a macerator pump deal with what goes into the tank so there is no issue with the usual kitchen residue like coffee grounds and, indeed, pasta going down the drain.  


cheers Joerg

A55 #53 Kincsem
On the hard in Vigo, Spain




Cockpit locker leak?

Kevin Schmit
 

Hello fellow Amelians,

After some heavy rain last night I noticed a fair amount of fresh water accumulating inside our SM cockpit locker.

I figured before I climbed inside the locker with a flashlight while my wife runs the hose over the deck and cockpit to try to pinpoint the source for this pesky leak I’d check with the brain trust to see if there’s a common leak source first? Cockpit gaskets are all new and intact.

Thanks for the assist.


--
Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
SM #362

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