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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] test message

Arthur Sundqvist
 

WORKS!
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ARTHUR SUNDQVIST 
Timmermansgränd 3
11865 Stockholm
Sweden



17 maj 2018 kl. 14:17 skrev sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:


I've have had a few replies I made just disappear after hitting "send". Just testing to see if this posts.

Craig




test message

Craig Briggs
 

I've have had a few replies I made just disappear after hitting "send". Just testing to see if this posts.

Craig


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Membrane replacement on bilge pump.

Craig Briggs
 

Good job, Bob.
Cheers


---In amelyachtowners@..., <renaissanceiii@...> wrote :

Craig, repaired bilge pump and used both membranes, didn’t lose anything, 



Bob Grey

On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 17:12, Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Craig,


I have changed mine several times - use both membranes. Be very careful not to drop parts down sump - I block sump opening with a sheet in case!

Good luck

Peter
Carango
Amel 54#035
Azores

Peter Forbes

On 17 May 2018, at 02:20, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi craig, as a last resort, I looked in the equipment manuals supplied with the boat, and there is an exploded diagram showing the 2 diaphragms in the assembly so question answered. Use both, the one under the white paper goes on the air side.


Maude was super helpful and had the part in stock to replenish my spares cabinet. Hopefully will last another 5 years.

Bob Grey
Renaissance 3


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 08:32, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bob,

Just one, as I recall.  It'll become clear, of course, when you open up the pump. Wear gloves - yucchy job !
Cheers,
Craig SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <renaissanceiii@....> wrote :

Hi guys, I have a Reya Marine ZZ bilge pump that started leaking, caused by a torn membrane, luckily had a maintenance kit in my spares box, there were two separate membranes in the kit along with a big o ring and 2 valves.

The question I ask is do you use one or both membranes in the repair? They seem identical.

I couldn’t find any online reference guide or pump exploded view to answer what is probably an obvious answer “ use both “ but as I’m sure there are many Amel owners who have repaired their pump and know the answer.


Bob Grey
Amel 55 #25


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Membrane replacement on bilge pump.

Craig Briggs
 

Good job, Bob. 
Cheers


---In amelyachtowners@..., <renaissanceiii@...> wrote :

Craig, repaired bilge pump and used both membranes, didn’t lose anything, 



Bob Grey

On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 17:12, Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Craig,


I have changed mine several times - use both membranes. Be very careful not to drop parts down sump - I block sump opening with a sheet in case!

Good luck

Peter
Carango
Amel 54#035
Azores

Peter Forbes

On 17 May 2018, at 02:20, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi craig, as a last resort, I looked in the equipment manuals supplied with the boat, and there is an exploded diagram showing the 2 diaphragms in the assembly so question answered. Use both, the one under the white paper goes on the air side.


Maude was super helpful and had the part in stock to replenish my spares cabinet. Hopefully will last another 5 years.

Bob Grey
Renaissance 3


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 08:32, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bob,

Just one, as I recall.  It'll become clear, of course, when you open up the pump. Wear gloves - yucchy job !
Cheers,
Craig SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <renaissanceiii@....> wrote :

Hi guys, I have a Reya Marine ZZ bilge pump that started leaking, caused by a torn membrane, luckily had a maintenance kit in my spares box, there were two separate membranes in the kit along with a big o ring and 2 valves.

The question I ask is do you use one or both membranes in the repair? They seem identical.

I couldn’t find any online reference guide or pump exploded view to answer what is probably an obvious answer “ use both “ but as I’m sure there are many Amel owners who have repaired their pump and know the answer.


Bob Grey
Amel 55 #25


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Membrane replacement on bilge pump.

Bob Grey
 

Craig, repaired bilge pump and used both membranes, didn’t lose anything, 



Bob Grey

On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 17:12, Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Craig,


I have changed mine several times - use both membranes. Be very careful not to drop parts down sump - I block sump opening with a sheet in case!

Good luck

Peter
Carango
Amel 54#035
Azores

Peter Forbes

On 17 May 2018, at 02:20, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi craig, as a last resort, I looked in the equipment manuals supplied with the boat, and there is an exploded diagram showing the 2 diaphragms in the assembly so question answered. Use both, the one under the white paper goes on the air side.


Maude was super helpful and had the part in stock to replenish my spares cabinet. Hopefully will last another 5 years.

Bob Grey
Renaissance 3


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 08:32, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bob,

Just one, as I recall.  It'll become clear, of course, when you open up the pump. Wear gloves - yucchy job !
Cheers,
Craig SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi guys, I have a Reya Marine ZZ bilge pump that started leaking, caused by a torn membrane, luckily had a maintenance kit in my spares box, there were two separate membranes in the kit along with a big o ring and 2 valves.

The question I ask is do you use one or both membranes in the repair? They seem identical.

I couldn’t find any online reference guide or pump exploded view to answer what is probably an obvious answer “ use both “ but as I’m sure there are many Amel owners who have repaired their pump and know the answer.


Bob Grey
Amel 55 #25


Re: Frigoboat Installation

John Clark
 

Hi Steve,
   Yes, Nikimat was a later hull number with a different layout under the sink in the galley.  I have a 1990, with the frig near the stove.  The compressor is mounted on the upper left rear side of the refrigerator.  There is a small hole between the undersink storage area and the coil on the compressor to help airflow.  

                    Regards,  John

John Clark
SV Annie SM 37
St John USVI


Frigoboat Installation

Steve Bode
 

Does anyone have pictures of how the original Frigoboat fridge was installed in a circa 1994 Super Maramu? The original fridge was removed from my boat before I bought it and a home fridge (220v) was inserted.  I have purchased a new Frigoboat MS160 cabinet and a Capri 50F to replace it. I thought the compressor was originally mounted beneath the fridge cabinet, something like the pictures in Alexandre’s SM2000 “Nikimat” http://nikimat.com/fridge_removal.html,  but it doesn’t look like it (see my pictures). Any help from someone’s who’s done this would be SO appreciated!

Steve Bode
SV Intention, Amel SM117
Puerto Ginesta, Spain
facebook: stevebodesanfrancisco
+1 415-710-6659



Sea water pump

Peter Forbes
 

I feel such a fool! It must be the sun that has got to me - I asked about water pumps and mistakenly in my post asked about fresh water pumps - many people including Bill replied very kindly -


What I meant was the sea water pump for the fridges which seems to draw only 1 amp the only replacements I can find draw about 3-5 amps - I have asked Maud at Amel and she has none. Any ideas the pump is 12v draws 1 amp amp pumps 6 litres of salt water per minute. Does anyone know if the associated circuitry including the frigoboat distribution box can take 3 amps - I guess not as got has a 2 amp fuse?

Peter


Peter Forbes
Amel 54#035 Carango
Azores en route to La Rochelle
00447836 209730


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Membrane replacement on bilge pump.

Peter Forbes
 

Craig,

I have changed mine several times - use both membranes. Be very careful not to drop parts down sump - I block sump opening with a sheet in case!

Good luck

Peter
Carango
Amel 54#035
Azores

Peter Forbes
00447836 209730

On 17 May 2018, at 02:20, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi craig, as a last resort, I looked in the equipment manuals supplied with the boat, and there is an exploded diagram showing the 2 diaphragms in the assembly so question answered. Use both, the one under the white paper goes on the air side.


Maude was super helpful and had the part in stock to replenish my spares cabinet. Hopefully will last another 5 years.

Bob Grey
Renaissance 3


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 08:32, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bob,

Just one, as I recall.  It'll become clear, of course, when you open up the pump. Wear gloves - yucchy job !
Cheers,
Craig SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi guys, I have a Reya Marine ZZ bilge pump that started leaking, caused by a torn membrane, luckily had a maintenance kit in my spares box, there were two separate membranes in the kit along with a big o ring and 2 valves.

The question I ask is do you use one or both membranes in the repair? They seem identical.

I couldn’t find any online reference guide or pump exploded view to answer what is probably an obvious answer “ use both “ but as I’m sure there are many Amel owners who have repaired their pump and know the answer.


Bob Grey
Amel 55 #25


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Membrane replacement on bilge pump.

Bob Grey
 

Hi craig, as a last resort, I looked in the equipment manuals supplied with the boat, and there is an exploded diagram showing the 2 diaphragms in the assembly so question answered. Use both, the one under the white paper goes on the air side.

Maude was super helpful and had the part in stock to replenish my spares cabinet. Hopefully will last another 5 years.

Bob Grey

On Thursday, May 17, 2018, 08:32, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Hi Bob,

Just one, as I recall.  It'll become clear, of course, when you open up the pump. Wear gloves - yucchy job !
Cheers,
Craig SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <renaissanceiii@...> wrote :

Hi guys, I have a Reya Marine ZZ bilge pump that started leaking, caused by a torn membrane, luckily had a maintenance kit in my spares box, there were two separate membranes in the kit along with a big o ring and 2 valves.

The question I ask is do you use one or both membranes in the repair? They seem identical.

I couldn’t find any online reference guide or pump exploded view to answer what is probably an obvious answer “ use both “ but as I’m sure there are many Amel owners who have repaired their pump and know the answer.


Bob Grey
Amel 55 #25


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Travel on the US East Coast

eric freedman
 

Hi,

If you plan on coming down Long Island sound, please drop by.

The huntington Yacht club is a very nice place with guest moorings, showers, restaurant .

It is a very sheltered harbor and has all the marine chandleries and repairmen you will need.

 

Huntington is included in the Gold Coast referred to in the Great Gatsby, we also have the second largest home in N. America..

Huntington has many restaurants of all cuisines, and is a 1 hour train ride from Manhattan.

 

If you would like to visit , just drop me a note.

Fair Winds

Eric Freedman

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 8:17 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Travel on the US East Coast

 

 

We are in the process of planning a trip north from Ft. Lauderdale, Florida toward Maryland and possibly New Hampshire this summer.  We would be interested in learning of your favorite anchorages, marinas, or stops along the way.  Kent on Kristy has provided some good information, anything you could provide from a tidbit of information to a trip plan would be appreciated.

 

We look forward to hearing from you and thank you for sharing your past experiences and knowledge.

 

Mark & Debbie Mueller

Brass Ring  A54-68

Ft. Lauderdale

 


Re: Membrane replacement on bilge pump.

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Bob,
Just one, as I recall.  It'll become clear, of course, when you open up the pump. Wear gloves - yucchy job !
Cheers,
Craig SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <renaissanceiii@...> wrote :

Hi guys, I have a Reya Marine ZZ bilge pump that started leaking, caused by a torn membrane, luckily had a maintenance kit in my spares box, there were two separate membranes in the kit along with a big o ring and 2 valves.

The question I ask is do you use one or both membranes in the repair? They seem identical.

I couldn’t find any online reference guide or pump exploded view to answer what is probably an obvious answer “ use both “ but as I’m sure there are many Amel owners who have repaired their pump and know the answer.


Bob Grey
Amel 55 #25


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rig tuning

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Steve,
Yep, that's the booklet. Check out the "Folding Rule Method" of tensioning.
Sounds reasonable that the existing rig is loose due to stretch. That makes it pretty easy to tension back up - just count the turns you take on starboard and do the same number on port, assuming the mast is in column to begin with.
Craig SN68 Sangaris, Ft Pierce FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote :

Steve, thanks for the data, that's very helpful.

Craig, thank you also for your advice.  That's a great rule of thumb.  I have The Complete Rigger's Apprentice, which discusses rig tuning a bit, but not as much as I'd hoped before I bought it.  I will definitely read the booklet you mentioned (which is perhaps this free PDF?).

I suspect the slight looseness in my rig is because the wire has stretched over time.  It was quite tight when I bought the boat, and I think the boat hadn't been sailed much by the previous owner after he replaced the standing rigging.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:40 PM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ryan,

I'd recommend Selden Mast's booklet Hints and Advice on Rig Tuning - you can download the pdf. They give a neat "folding rule" method (pg 32) of determining tension based on the fact that 2 meters of any diameter of 1X19 wire stretches 1mm for each 5% of breaking strength applied.

So, for example, if you want to tension your 12mm cap stays to 20% (Amel tight, maybe!) just tighten them until 2 meters stretches by 4 mm. That stretch will give you about 5600 pounds of tension, as the breaking strength is about 28000.

The Loos gauge doesn't handle wire over 10mm (actually 9.5 mm as it's rated for 3/8) and only goes up to 4500 pounds. That's why the results Nance and Underwood gave Steve Morrison in his post just show "very tight" for his 12mm stays.

After you get a sense for "very tight" you'll get to trust just feeling the stays and being able to judge if they're right. And use Joel's suggestion to go out, sail upwind in a good breeze and see if your lee shrouds are at all slack. If yes, they're way too loose. Oh yeah, and recheck after a while as the wire will stretch over time.

On the headstay there is a turnbuckle screw under the furler. ACMO just calls it "special" , as it's shorter than standard ones so the furler can be closer to the deck.

Have fun tuning!
Craig Briggs SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com, <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote :


Hi all,

I'm about to embark upon tuning up my rig, which I feel is a little loose, but I'd love some guidance on how to do that.  I've scoured the archives of this list and found many mentions of guides from both Joel Potter and Olivier Beaute, but I haven't been able to find them.  The best guide I've found thus far is this one.   Can anyone link me to the gold standard(s)?

Also, has anyone done the tuning in a more scientific way, with a Loos Gauge?  I'm struggling to understand via qualitative descriptions just how tight is tight.  I think a quantitative measurement would be very helpful.

And finally, how does one adjust the forestay tension?  I admittedly have not studied it in depth, but I didn't see a turnbuckle or any other obvious mechanism.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA



Membrane replacement on bilge pump.

Bob Grey
 

Hi guys, I have a Reya Marine ZZ bilge pump that started leaking, caused by a torn membrane, luckily had a maintenance kit in my spares box, there were two separate membranes in the kit along with a big o ring and 2 valves.

The question I ask is do you use one or both membranes in the repair? They seem identical.

I couldn’t find any online reference guide or pump exploded view to answer what is probably an obvious answer “ use both “ but as I’m sure there are many Amel owners who have repaired their pump and know the answer.


Bob Grey
Amel 55 #25


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Replacement Head/Shower Faucets for SM

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Dan,

I have not replaced my faucets, but I did do some related plumbing when I added a drinking water filter (my one and only violation of the "wait one year" rule).  My galley faucet, and I believe all the other taps/mixers, use 3/8" BSPT threads.  I was able to source adapters to 3/8" NPT (the standard in the US) from McMaster-Carr.  I hope that's helpful.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 6:05 PM, danb.taylor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Greetings all, I am a first time poster and proud Amel Owner. 


First off, I want to thank publicly Joel Potter and Bill Rouse. They went the extra effort in answering and guiding me through the section and buying process.  


Secondly, I have contacted numerous Amel owners that Joel and Bill have introduced, the feedback and information has reinforced my decision that Amel owners take care of their own. Thank you all for your support as I become familiar with my Amel.


Finally, I would like to replace the head faucets and handles.  Has anyone performed this and if so, what make/model/size did you use?


Thanks,

Dan

SV FlyGirl 

San Diego, CA

SM 116





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rig tuning

Ryan Meador
 

Steve, thanks for the data, that's very helpful.

Craig, thank you also for your advice.  That's a great rule of thumb.  I have The Complete Rigger's Apprentice, which discusses rig tuning a bit, but not as much as I'd hoped before I bought it.  I will definitely read the booklet you mentioned (which is perhaps this free PDF?).

I suspect the slight looseness in my rig is because the wire has stretched over time.  It was quite tight when I bought the boat, and I think the boat hadn't been sailed much by the previous owner after he replaced the standing rigging.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 12:40 PM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ryan,

I'd recommend Selden Mast's booklet Hints and Advice on Rig Tuning - you can download the pdf. They give a neat "folding rule" method (pg 32) of determining tension based on the fact that 2 meters of any diameter of 1X19 wire stretches 1mm for each 5% of breaking strength applied.

So, for example, if you want to tension your 12mm cap stays to 20% (Amel tight, maybe!) just tighten them until 2 meters stretches by 4 mm. That stretch will give you about 5600 pounds of tension, as the breaking strength is about 28000.

The Loos gauge doesn't handle wire over 10mm (actually 9.5 mm as it's rated for 3/8) and only goes up to 4500 pounds. That's why the results Nance and Underwood gave Steve Morrison in his post just show "very tight" for his 12mm stays.

After you get a sense for "very tight" you'll get to trust just feeling the stays and being able to judge if they're right. And use Joel's suggestion to go out, sail upwind in a good breeze and see if your lee shrouds are at all slack. If yes, they're way too loose. Oh yeah, and recheck after a while as the wire will stretch over time.

On the headstay there is a turnbuckle screw under the furler. ACMO just calls it "special" , as it's shorter than standard ones so the furler can be closer to the deck.

Have fun tuning!
Craig Briggs SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, wrote :


Hi all,

I'm about to embark upon tuning up my rig, which I feel is a little loose, but I'd love some guidance on how to do that.  I've scoured the archives of this list and found many mentions of guides from both Joel Potter and Olivier Beaute, but I haven't been able to find them.  The best guide I've found thus far is this one.   Can anyone link me to the gold standard(s)?

Also, has anyone done the tuning in a more scientific way, with a Loos Gauge?  I'm struggling to understand via qualitative descriptions just how tight is tight.  I think a quantitative measurement would be very helpful.

And finally, how does one adjust the forestay tension?  I admittedly have not studied it in depth, but I didn't see a turnbuckle or any other obvious mechanism.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA



Re: rig tuning

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Ryan,

I'd recommend Selden Mast's booklet Hints and Advice on Rig Tuning - you can download the pdf. They give a neat "folding rule" method (pg 32) of determining tension based on the fact that 2 meters of any diameter of 1X19 wire stretches 1mm for each 5% of breaking strength applied.

So, for example, if you want to tension your 12mm cap stays to 20% (Amel tight, maybe!) just tighten them until 2 meters stretches by 4 mm. That stretch will give you about 5600 pounds of tension, as the breaking strength is about 28000.

The Loos gauge doesn't handle wire over 10mm (actually 9.5 mm as it's rated for 3/8) and only goes up to 4500 pounds. That's why the results Nance and Underwood gave Steve Morrison in his post just show "very tight" for his 12mm stays.

After you get a sense for "very tight" you'll get to trust just feeling the stays and being able to judge if they're right. And use Joel's suggestion to go out, sail upwind in a good breeze and see if your lee shrouds are at all slack. If yes, they're way too loose. Oh yeah, and recheck after a while as the wire will stretch over time.

On the headstay there is a turnbuckle screw under the furler. ACMO just calls it "special" , as it's shorter than standard ones so the furler can be closer to the deck.

Have fun tuning!
Craig Briggs SN68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote :

Hi all,

I'm about to embark upon tuning up my rig, which I feel is a little loose, but I'd love some guidance on how to do that.  I've scoured the archives of this list and found many mentions of guides from both Joel Potter and Olivier Beaute, but I haven't been able to find them.  The best guide I've found thus far is this one.   Can anyone link me to the gold standard(s)?

Also, has anyone done the tuning in a more scientific way, with a Loos Gauge?  I'm struggling to understand via qualitative descriptions just how tight is tight.  I think a quantitative measurement would be very helpful.

And finally, how does one adjust the forestay tension?  I admittedly have not studied it in depth, but I didn't see a turnbuckle or any other obvious mechanism.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


Re: Raising the waterline aft on SM

Miles
 

Hi Gary,

 

When I was at the factory, I  also asked Jean-Jacque about the water line.  As best as I can recall, he said that it looked better and that the boat would not get an ugly yellow mustache if it motored though dirty water. 

 

Regards,

Miles

s/y Ladybug, sm216. Le Marin, Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rig tuning

Stephen Morrison <steve_morrison@...>
 

I had Nance and Underwood (Ft. Lauderdale) replace my rig the winter and this is a photo of the guide they followed for tensioning my SM380



Steve Morrison
SM380 TouRai
Hilton Head, SC

On May 16, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

I'm about to embark upon tuning up my rig, which I feel is a little loose, but I'd love some guidance on how to do that.  I've scoured the archives of this list and found many mentions of guides from both Joel Potter and Olivier Beaute, but I haven't been able to find them.  The best guide I've found thus far is this one.   Can anyone link me to the gold standard(s)?

Also, has anyone done the tuning in a more scientific way, with a Loos Gauge?  I'm struggling to understand via qualitative descriptions just how tight is tight.  I think a quantitative measurement would be very helpful.

And finally, how does one adjust the forestay tension?  I admittedly have not studied it in depth, but I didn't see a turnbuckle or any other obvious mechanism.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


rig tuning

Ryan Meador
 

Hi all,

I'm about to embark upon tuning up my rig, which I feel is a little loose, but I'd love some guidance on how to do that.  I've scoured the archives of this list and found many mentions of guides from both Joel Potter and Olivier Beaute, but I haven't been able to find them.  The best guide I've found thus far is this one.   Can anyone link me to the gold standard(s)?

Also, has anyone done the tuning in a more scientific way, with a Loos Gauge?  I'm struggling to understand via qualitative descriptions just how tight is tight.  I think a quantitative measurement would be very helpful.

And finally, how does one adjust the forestay tension?  I admittedly have not studied it in depth, but I didn't see a turnbuckle or any other obvious mechanism.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA