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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds

Patrick McAneny
 

Colin, Sounds like a boisterous passage, I am sure exciting ,yet good to be done with , well done.What forecasting service do you use , is it not Predict Wind ? If so did you find it accurate , worthwhile.
Fair Winds ,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Sailing Island Pearl colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, Jun 10, 2018 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds

 
We just did the Chagos to Rodrigues leg of South Indian Ocean passage, with 5 of 9 days in sustained 35 kts with lots of 40+kts and the wind speed pegged on max over 50kts on occasions.

The seas started at 3.5m swells but were well over 5m for two days and a very angry and unpredictable 6m or more at the peak for approx 24 hrs.

I can report rhat the SM handled this with ease. We had fortunately anticipated this, and hence made our southing from Chagos early in 25-30kts (ie upwind sailing), so by the time we hit the strong 35+ winds and big seas, we could bear off to a point where the wind was just behind the beam, making things far easier running down waves which would be near impossible to go upwind and over without launching into mid air and slamming down.

Whilst it was wild and sometimes white out conditions, never did we feel unsafe, and with mostly just a very small amount of all 3 sails out, the boat stayed in control at all times, and mainly under 7kts speed without any need for a drougue.

Hope we have no more 50+ kts on the balance of our Indian Ocean crossing, but it sure is nice to know and experience the amazing capability of these Amels when one is thousands of miles from anywhere.

Colin Streeter
SV Island Pearl II
SM #332, Rodrigues



On Wed, 6 Jun. 2018, 17:28 greatketch@... [amelyachtowners], <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hans-Peter,

The mizzen boom on my boat most certainly can hit the twin backstays. I just went on deck to confirm.

The Main boon can hit the main mast back stay, but only IF the permanent fixed vang was not installed.

Hope that makes it clear..

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Climma Compact 9EH Troubleshooting tips?

Duane Siegfri
 

Chuck,

How did you come to the conclusion that it was the thermostat? I would love to hear how to diagnose the problem.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Climma Compact 9EH Troubleshooting tips?

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

OK my turn Duane. This just happened to us on Joy. It was the thermostat. $35  at coastal climate. Tune the dial in the back and I was back in business. 
Chuck 


On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 1:05 PM Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Coastal Climate Control is in Annapolis.  You can stop on your way N if you want them to take a look at it.

I replaced the complete units, not sure about compatibility of parts with your other two units if you do replace it.  That’s on my list of things to check this Summer.

That’s your call, Duane.  They are pretty bulletproof and it might have some good years left in it.  They’re expensive, heavy and bulky.  I don’t think I’d want to carry a spare, but if you do change it out, I’d try to find a place for the old one if it’s compatible with the new controller, etc.

I’m of the “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” school.  Others are more aggressive about replacing equipment as it starts to age.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243
St Michaels, MD

Duane wrote:

Hi Kent,


We are in West Palm headed for Maine. Our boat and ac are 2005.

For a 13 year old AC, if it needs a compressor I wonder if it's not better to replace it? The same reasoning you use for a car with lots of miles.

Duane
Wanderer, SM477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Climma Compact 9EH Troubleshooting tips?

karkauai
 

Coastal Climate Control is in Annapolis.  You can stop on your way N if you want them to take a look at it.

I replaced the complete units, not sure about compatibility of parts with your other two units if you do replace it.  That’s on my list of things to check this Summer.

That’s your call, Duane.  They are pretty bulletproof and it might have some good years left in it.  They’re expensive, heavy and bulky.  I don’t think I’d want to carry a spare, but if you do change it out, I’d try to find a place for the old one if it’s compatible with the new controller, etc.

I’m of the “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” school.  Others are more aggressive about replacing equipment as it starts to age.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243
St Michaels, MD

Duane wrote:

Hi Kent,


We are in West Palm headed for Maine. Our boat and ac are 2005.

For a 13 year old AC, if it needs a compressor I wonder if it's not better to replace it? The same reasoning you use for a car with lots of miles.

Duane
Wanderer, SM477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds

Alan Leslie
 

Well done Colin, couldn't have been in a better boat. Our experience from NZ to Tahiti in 2014 was similar. Never felt out of control.
Cheers
Alan 
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

well done Colin. Very good seamanship. Thank you for the detail  of wind waves and sail. It confirms my experience of the SMs supreme ability as an off shore sailing vessel. Pleased you didn't hobble her by dragging stuff behind. Plan, prepare and have the right amount of sail up and she will look after you.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 11 June 2018 at 04:27 "Sailing Island Pearl colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

We just did the Chagos to Rodrigues leg of South Indian Ocean passage, with 5 of 9 days in sustained 35 kts with lots of 40+kts and the wind speed pegged on max over 50kts on occasions.

The seas started at 3.5m swells but were well over 5m for two days and a very angry and unpredictable 6m or more at the peak for approx 24 hrs.

I can report rhat the SM handled this with ease. We had fortunately anticipated this, and hence made our southing from Chagos early in 25-30kts (ie upwind sailing), so by the time we hit the strong 35+ winds and big seas, we could bear off to a point where the wind was just behind the beam, making things far easier running down waves which would be near impossible to go upwind and over without launching into mid air and slamming down.

Whilst it was wild and sometimes white out conditions, never did we feel unsafe, and with mostly just a very small amount of all 3 sails out, the boat stayed in control at all times, and mainly under 7kts speed without any need for a drougue.

Hope we have no more 50+ kts on the balance of our Indian Ocean crossing, but it sure is nice to know and experience the amazing capability of these Amels when one is thousands of miles from anywhere.

Colin Streeter
SV Island Pearl II
SM #332, Rodrigues



On Wed, 6 Jun. 2018, 17:28 greatketch@... [amelyachtowners], < amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hans-Peter,


The mizzen boom on my boat most certainly can hit the twin backstays. I just went on deck to confirm.

The Main boon can hit the main mast back stay, but only IF the permanent fixed vang was not installed.

Hope that makes it clear..

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA

 

 

 


 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Old B&G electronics for sale

Paul Osterberg
 

Paul
The depth and speed transducer was installed by the yard, but I have done it before with a high quality hole saw it should be no problem. The mast was down so easy to pull out the old unit and at the same time pull a mono filament line all the way to pull the new cable. we then pulled all the three transducer cables to the instruments above the pentry space, but if I did it again I would probably buy an ITC5 box and connect all transducers at the base of the mast and only pull a NMEA backbone cable to the instruments, one cable instead of three. The it was very easy install and connect the instruments. >>The new electronics for the Autopilot needs the new rudder indicator transducer, I kept the old one for the old system and installed the new one it was a little bit tricky, I can send you a picture if you want se how I did it.
Else it was rather easy installation after ripping out and rearrange most cables in the space were the rotary drive is. >>I had problem to find space for both the old and the new electronics for the autopilot.
the EV1 unit we placed in the cupboard beside the starboard sofa.

The cost for the Instrument with thre displays was ca 1300 USD at Annapolis boat show last Oktober. we bought from THE GPS store and we did not need to pay any tax.

We the added three more instruments. close hauled, and two I 70 displays one in the cockpit for navigation data to be able to utilize the full screen for charts on the chart plotter and one i 70 display at the nav table.
the instruments are just  north of 400  each, the close hauled we found a good price at Defender.com.
the full cost including the new AP electronics was ca 5000$

PAUL on sykerpa.com SM#259


Re: Climma Compact 9EH Troubleshooting tips?

Duane Siegfri
 

Hi Kent,

We are in West Palm headed for Maine. Our boat and ac are 2005.

For a 13 year old AC, if it needs a compressor I wonder if it's not better to replace it? The same reasoning you use for a car with lots of miles.

Duane
Wanderer, SM477


Re: Yanmar Diesel Lift Pump

Duane Siegfri
 

Theie point was, they are prone to fail after that period to such a degree it's better to just replace.


Re: Climma Compact 9EH Troubleshooting tips?

karkauai
 

How old is your boat? I had to replace two of my compressors at 17 & 18 years. They are pretty bullet proof, so I would look at relays and thermostat first. Does anyone know if there is a way to bypass the thermostat and/or relay?

Where are you Duane?
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: Yanmar Diesel Lift Pump

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Duane,

What is the reason for the recommendation?  What problems are likely to arise from not replacing this pump?

Thanks in advance,


Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350 (2002)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

We just did the Chagos to Rodrigues leg of South Indian Ocean passage, with 5 of 9 days in sustained 35 kts with lots of 40+kts and the wind speed pegged on max over 50kts on occasions.

The seas started at 3.5m swells but were well over 5m for two days and a very angry and unpredictable 6m or more at the peak for approx 24 hrs.

I can report rhat the SM handled this with ease. We had fortunately anticipated this, and hence made our southing from Chagos early in 25-30kts (ie upwind sailing), so by the time we hit the strong 35+ winds and big seas, we could bear off to a point where the wind was just behind the beam, making things far easier running down waves which would be near impossible to go upwind and over without launching into mid air and slamming down.

Whilst it was wild and sometimes white out conditions, never did we feel unsafe, and with mostly just a very small amount of all 3 sails out, the boat stayed in control at all times, and mainly under 7kts speed without any need for a drougue.

Hope we have no more 50+ kts on the balance of our Indian Ocean crossing, but it sure is nice to know and experience the amazing capability of these Amels when one is thousands of miles from anywhere.

Colin Streeter
SV Island Pearl II
SM #332, Rodrigues



On Wed, 6 Jun. 2018, 17:28 greatketch@... [amelyachtowners], <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hans-Peter,


The mizzen boom on my boat most certainly can hit the twin backstays. I just went on deck to confirm.

The Main boon can hit the main mast back stay, but only IF the permanent fixed vang was not installed.

Hope that makes it clear..

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Staretr/Ignition switch Volvo Penta

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Steve,

Which TMD 22 do you have? A? P?
With your engine number search on
https://www.marinepartseurope.com/en/volvo-penta-explodedview-7746710-30-318.aspx

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sun, 6/10/18, Steve Harmon caliber33@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Staretr/Ignition switch Volvo Penta
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, June 10, 2018, 9:20 AM


 









Seem to be more than one type
switch out there, does anyone have a parts number or a good
source for this switch. thanks, Steve   SV Forever
Young


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9EH Troubleshooting tips?

Duane Siegfri
 

Kent,

I cannot feel the compressor run, I thought of that and put my hand on it.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9EH Troubleshooting tips?

Duane Siegfri
 

Thomas,

Was the relay one of green cubes in the wire box? There are two soldered to the circuit board.

Duane


Staretr/Ignition switch Volvo Penta

Steve Harmon
 

Seem to be more than one type switch out there, does anyone have a parts number or a good source for this switch. thanks, Steve   SV Forever Young


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9EH Troubleshooting tips?

Thomas Peacock
 

We had an identical problem with our main cabin unit. We trouble-shot it and decided on a bad relay. We ordered a replacement from a reputable US dealer. However, same problem. We the called in a pro. He diagnosed it as a bad relay. Seems the replacement relay was also defective. A second new relay fixed the problem. With some luck you won’t need a new compressor. 
Tom Peacock
SM 240, Aletes
Rock Hall, Maryland. 


On Jun 10, 2018, at 9:25 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

My aft cabin air conditioner is not working.  Last winter the heating element wasn't working and replacing the capacitors solved the problem.


Now the air conditioning doesn't work.  I double checked the capacitors, and they are all in spec.


When I turn on the unit with the temperature setting all the way to cold, after the timer has counted down, the fan comes on, and there is an audible click.  There was an odd sound from the compressor, almost like a shudder.  The fan continues to run, but does not cool the air. 


The Troubleshooting manual says it's either the Power Relay, or the Compressor is broke.  I suppose it could also be the thermostat.


Does anyone have any tips on diagnosing these issues?  Is the Power Relay the clear plastic boxes in the box with the capacitors?  I'm wondering if I can swap out the "K1 Power Relay" with one of the other AC's to check?


If you replaced the unit, what brand/model did you get?


Thanks in advance,

Duane




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9EH Troubleshooting tips?

karkauai
 

Can you feel the compressor running?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Jun 10, 2018, at 9:37 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,


That was my fondest hope, but I tested all five capacitors and they are all in spec.  I have spares for all of them and tested the spares to check the meter and they also tested in spec.  I also checked all the connections for tightness and corrosion, and all was well.  I replaced the 2 and 4 uF last winter, they were all well out of spec then and that solved my no-heat issue.  the 10 and 40uF caps tested in spec then and still do now.

Hope all is well with you,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma Compact 9EH Troubleshooting tips?

Duane Siegfri
 

Bill,

That was my fondest hope, but I tested all five capacitors and they are all in spec.  I have spares for all of them and tested the spares to check the meter and they also tested in spec.  I also checked all the connections for tightness and corrosion, and all was well.  I replaced the 2 and 4 uF last winter, they were all well out of spec then and that solved my no-heat issue.  the 10 and 40uF caps tested in spec then and still do now.

Hope all is well with you,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Yanmar Diesel Lift Pump

Duane Siegfri
 

I was going over the notes I made from a seminar the Mac Boring did for the care of Diesel engines.  They recommended you change the low pressure lift pump on Yanmars after 8 years whether there were problems or not.


Any diesel guru's out there have an opinion on this issue?


Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

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