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Auto Prop Bearings

Mark Erdos
 

Hi all,

 

I am ordering some spare autoprop bearings and need some help confirming the correct slanted bearing. On the AB-Marine web page it states SKF 32004 is the correct bearing.

 

I can save a lot of money if I order from a bearing wholesaler. However, the only SKF 32004 comes with an X/Q after the part number. Does anyone know if this is the same?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – Bonaire

 

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: Rivets for Head sail furling foil

greatketch@...
 

Vladimir,

I tapped threads and used 8mm stainless socket head cap screws. 

You might want to have a look back at message #34039 where Olivier gives the ultimate summary of the issues involved.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie


---In amelyachtowners@..., <sonsev52@...> wrote :

I would like to use 1/4 " dia 8 stainless rivets. ( I couldn't find 7 mm dia rivets.)
I am concerned about breaking the part that foil is inserted to. It is aluminum casting 10 mm wall. The upper holes are close to the edge. Did anyone see it broken during rivet installation or due to wind load.

That is very critical connection. If it fails during a storm, the sail can get opend and there are noway to furl it back.
Please give me recommendations and provide your oppinion.

Vladimir
S/V "Life is Good"
SM 345


Rivets for Head sail furling foil

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I would like to use 1/4 " dia 8 stainless rivets. ( I couldn't find 7 mm dia rivets.)
I am concerned about breaking the part that foil is inserted to. It is aluminum casting 10 mm wall. The upper holes are close to the edge. Did anyone see it broken during rivet installation or due to wind load.

That is very critical connection. If it fails during a storm, the sail can get opend and there are noway to furl it back.
Please give me recommendations and provide your oppinion.

Vladimir
S/V "Life is Good"
SM 345


Volvo two wire temperature sender

greatketch@...
 

Does anyone know the part number or specification for the Volvo two wire temperature sensor?  (Not the high temperature alarm switch...) 


Mine has gone to the great boatyard in the sky, and the online part drawings I have found do not include it...


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Spanish Wells, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

Patrick McAneny
 

Bob, As Bill stated I don't trust my engine temp gauge , with good reason. I had a mechanic install a new Volvo instrument panel, the new gauge  was reading 225 F while the engine was at normal temps. His solution was to install an resistor in the wire from the sender. That seems arbitrary and should be unnecessary , I would think the gauge and sender should be compatible without modification.  To your question, I use two laser guns ( they sometimes disagree by several degrees) and measure temps at the thermostat . I read temps between 200 F and up to 212 F or so at higher rpms, while the gauge may read 220-225F or so . I launched my boat Friday and only ran it down the river to my mooring ,about 45 minutes at 2000 to 2500 rpm, but the gauge never got above 180F . The water is still cool , probably 60 , but I think cleaning out the elbow has solved my overheating issue. Tomorrow evening we will go out for a good long high speed run to confirm that we are at normal operating temps.
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, May 6, 2018 1:33 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

 
Hi Pat, on our boat (Yamar 4JH-3HTE) we usually run about 5F hotter at power vs normal cruising rpm of about 2000.  Always below about 182F on the gauge.  We also see an increase of a few degrees in warm water vs cold.  I think we had similar variation on our SN (Perkins M50).  I am curious how hot your engine was indicating and what other indicators of overheating you had.  I'm thinking that this is normal but only up to a poing.  What kind of increase do other owners see?

Bob, KAIMI SM429


Re: Passerelle/Gangway on my AMEL 54 not working, Valve Problem?

luvkante
 

Thank you, Wolfgang. I`ll try. Sounds promising!

I do not want to go with a full size activated passarelle across the Atlantic.

Martin
AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA
Currently Jolly Harbour, Antigua
Soon back in Varazze/Italy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Access to A/C capacitors on Amel 54

 

Mark, Christine, and everyone with Climma ACs:

I have seen 5 different Climma capacitor configurations between the SM and 54 and documented 4 of them in my book. Over a twenty plus period, Climma modified the Compact series. Be careful in comparisons, it might not be apples to oranges. Christine, your 54 Climma Compact 9 or 12 Fan Capacitor most likely is the smallest on the board and is marked C = 2μF.

I hope this helps you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970





On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 6:52 PM, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Christine, on our 2007 A54 the 12,000 BTU Climma is located under the settee in the salon.  By your description it is hard to tell if you have physically seen this unit or just a picture.  If I were going to check the capacitors on our unit I would remove the box which is usually held on by two screws to make it more convenient to access.  Be sure to turn off the power and let the capacitors sit to bleed the charge off or ground the terminals to ensure there is no residual charge.  I would take a picture of the unit before performing any tests to make sure you get the correct terminals back on the correct terminal posts.  You will also need a volt/ohm meter that measures capacitance.  The capacitor cannot be electrically connected to the system to measure.  You must remove at least the ground terminal and if you are not sure remove all terminals connected to the capacitor before measuring.  The size of the capacitor in microfarads will be listed on the face of the capacitor.

 

If you can visually inspect the capacitors many times when a capacitor fails it swells as if it is a soda can preparing to explode.  If you see a swollen capacitor it is virtually a 100% probability that it is bad.  However, a capacitor can be bad and not swell.

 

Since you are an Amel owner I am assuming you have some proficiency with a voltmeter.  You could trace the wires from the fan motor back to the control board and ensure you have power to the fan before disassembling the control board to check the capacitors. 

 

ALTERNATIVE - Remove the exhaust duct from the blower to verify the blower rotates freely.  Be very careful when you do this but, another check for a failed capacitor would be to  turn the unit on then and reach in with a long bladed screwdriver and give the fan blade a quick spin in its normal direction of rotation.  Do not let the screwdriver linger in the fan housing, if there is a bad capacitor the fan will start to rotate. 



Mark & Debbie Mueller

A54 – 68  Brass Ring

 Ftl Lauderdale

 



Re: Passerelle/Gangway on my AMEL 54 not working, Valve Problem?

Wolfgang Weber
 

Hello Martin, I had the same problem and fixed it by spray a little WD-40 in the little hole of the valves.Our boat  came with a little screwdriver fix near to the passarelle motor and pump. This former screwdriver was adjusted,so you can open the valves by pressing in the 2 mm hole. Try by operating the passarelle with the remote and press one valve by Hand.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162
 






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

 

Temperature gauges can't really be trusted completely. I have never seen an inaccurate laser temp gun, regardless of the price. You can take temperatures while the engine is running at the oil filter, or thermostat fitting; and it is probably going to be 80C +/- 5% at 1800 RPM under load. Lots of things can impact the temperature:
RPM
Load
Water Flow (restrictions)=seat chest restrictions, hose restrictions, Bowman oil cooler
Impeller Blade
Engine Thermostat
Engine Heat Exchanger
Transmission Oil Cooler if you have a Bowman Oil Cooler in-line between the sea chest and the engine
Other engine issues

Gook luck.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970





On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:32 AM, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Pat, on our boat (Yamar 4JH-3HTE) we usually run about 5F hotter at power vs normal cruising rpm of about 2000.  Always below about 182F on the gauge.  We also see an increase of a few degrees in warm water vs cold.  I think we had similar variation on our SN (Perkins M50).  I am curious how hot your engine was indicating and what other indicators of overheating you had.  I'm thinking that this is normal but only up to a poing.  What kind of increase do other owners see?


Bob, KAIMI SM429



Re: Opacmare Passerelle sticking Jamming Nylon sliding support seized AMEL 54

luvkante
 

Wolfgang, 

könntest Du mir noch ein paar Informationen geben, wie Du das Problem final gelöst hast?

Habe das gleiche Problem. CHIARA liegt in Antigua und ich werde in ein paar Tagen Richtung Europa aufbrechen, muss es also schnell irgendwie lösen.

Herzlichen Dank!

Martin
AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

rossirossix4
 

Hi Pat, on our boat (Yamar 4JH-3HTE) we usually run about 5F hotter at power vs normal cruising rpm of about 2000.  Always below about 182F on the gauge.  We also see an increase of a few degrees in warm water vs cold.  I think we had similar variation on our SN (Perkins M50).  I am curious how hot your engine was indicating and what other indicators of overheating you had.  I'm thinking that this is normal but only up to a poing.  What kind of increase do other owners see?

Bob, KAIMI SM429


New chartplotter and instruments

Duane Siegfri
 

I posted a photo of the helm Electronics on Wanderer, to give people ideas about how to add new instruments and chartplotter. I got the idea to put the NavPod close to the steering wheel from Steve Morrison on TouRai, in the place that the old autohelm control had been and I moved the autohelm control to the right where the B&G Hydra FFD had been. It all works very nicely that way. I also replaced the Hydra instruments with B&G instruments and covered up the old holes with a piece of quarter inch black plexiglass which looks really nice. I left space for 1/3 ffd if we decided we wanted that, or a new B&G autohelm would work there as well.

Duane
Wanderer SM477


Re: Access to A/C capacitors on Amel 54

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

Hi Christine, on our 2007 A54 the 12,000 BTU Climma is located under the settee in the salon.  By your description it is hard to tell if you have physically seen this unit or just a picture.  If I were going to check the capacitors on our unit I would remove the box which is usually held on by two screws to make it more convenient to access.  Be sure to turn off the power and let the capacitors sit to bleed the charge off or ground the terminals to ensure there is no residual charge.  I would take a picture of the unit before performing any tests to make sure you get the correct terminals back on the correct terminal posts.  You will also need a volt/ohm meter that measures capacitance.  The capacitor cannot be electrically connected to the system to measure.  You must remove at least the ground terminal and if you are not sure remove all terminals connected to the capacitor before measuring.  The size of the capacitor in microfarads will be listed on the face of the capacitor.

 

If you can visually inspect the capacitors many times when a capacitor fails it swells as if it is a soda can preparing to explode.  If you see a swollen capacitor it is virtually a 100% probability that it is bad.  However, a capacitor can be bad and not swell.

 

Since you are an Amel owner I am assuming you have some proficiency with a voltmeter.  You could trace the wires from the fan motor back to the control board and ensure you have power to the fan before disassembling the control board to check the capacitors. 

 

ALTERNATIVE - Remove the exhaust duct from the blower to verify the blower rotates freely.  Be very careful when you do this but, another check for a failed capacitor would be to  turn the unit on then and reach in with a long bladed screwdriver and give the fan blade a quick spin in its normal direction of rotation.  Do not let the screwdriver linger in the fan housing, if there is a bad capacitor the fan will start to rotate. 



Mark & Debbie Mueller

A54 – 68  Brass Ring

 Ftl Lauderdale

 


Bow Thruster - continuing problems

Duane Siegfri
 

I wrote in the forum earlier this year about problems with the bow thruster, which were solved with a new limit switch and a new crimp-on DC power connector to the on-off switch at the helm.


It has worked perfectly since January, until this morning when it blew three fuses in a row.  I was looking at the second fuse to blow when I noticed some corrosion on the contacts so tried a third one.  I'm thinking it has to be the jack screw motor.  I have checked to make sure the rigging wasn't bound up in some way but that appears to be OK to me.


Bill K noted this symptom might be a result of brush wear.  The jack screw motor on my boat has a rubber jacket, including the power wires going into the motor.  Has someone serviced the brushes on this motor before?  Does it even have brushes?  It's an SNT motor.


It looks like the only way to access the brushes is to cut away the rubber jacket.  I'm looking forward to hearing from someone who has had this trouble.


Duane

Wanderer, SM#477

Currently in Lake Worth, South of Peanut Island


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Passerelle/Gangway on my AMEL 54 not working, Valve Problem?

Courtney Gorman
 

We have had a similar issue with our Passerelle when it first occurred we had the hydraulics checked all fine with a lot of corrosion X and a little elbow grease we were able to get it to swing out and back and with more repetitions it moved more smoothly but every time we return to the boat we must repeat the procedure.  I believe there is a corrosion issue.

Courtney
svTrippin
54 #101
Marin

-----Original Message-----
From: luvkante@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sat, May 5, 2018 10:29 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Passerelle/Gangway on my AMEL 54 not working, Valve Problem?

 
Hi all,

The passerelle on my AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA is no longer working after a couple of month of not operating the boat. It goes UP and DOWN (so obviously the pump and one valve is working), but not IN and OUT and does not ROTATE  any longer.

I assume, it is a valve problem. Did anybody experience a similar problem and could he possibly solve it by manual activation of the valves or the pump?

I read in the thread that Wolfgang on ELISE had a similar problem, but don`t know, if he could resolve it.

Thank you for your help


Martin 
AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Passerelle/Gangway on my AMEL 54 not working, Valve Problem?

Porter McRoberts
 

All I know is they are notoriously finicky, break commonly and in the right circumstances very useful!  If you find a reasonable solution please let us know. Similar circumstances exist on Our boat. 

Very appreciated

Porter. 
Ibis 54-152 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On May 5, 2018, at 10:29 AM, luvkante@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,


The passerelle on my AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA is no longer working after a couple of month of not operating the boat. It goes UP and DOWN (so obviously the pump and one valve is working), but not IN and OUT and does not ROTATE  any longer.


I assume, it is a valve problem. Did anybody experience a similar problem and could he possibly solve it by manual activation of the valves or the pump?


I read in the thread that Wolfgang on ELISE had a similar problem, but don`t know, if he could resolve it.


Thank you for your help



Martin 

AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA


Passerelle/Gangway on my AMEL 54 not working, Valve Problem?

luvkante
 

Hi all,


The passerelle on my AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA is no longer working after a couple of month of not operating the boat. It goes UP and DOWN (so obviously the pump and one valve is working), but not IN and OUT and does not ROTATE  any longer.


I assume, it is a valve problem. Did anybody experience a similar problem and could he possibly solve it by manual activation of the valves or the pump?


I read in the thread that Wolfgang on ELISE had a similar problem, but don`t know, if he could resolve it.


Thank you for your help



Martin 

AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

Patrick McAneny
 

Mark, I realize that temperature increases with an increase in rpm. I was getting laser readings of 210 at the thermostat while only at 2000 rpm , as a result I did not operate higher than that , but the temp would continue higher when I did. Running yesterday at 2000 to 2500 the guage never moved above 180. When I have time I am going out and run it hard and check again with the laser. I believe that a partially clogged elbow was my problem ,and I had not considered it,was not on my radar.
Thanks,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sat, May 5, 2018 7:14 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

 
Pat,
 
It is normal for the temperature to increase a little with the increase of RPM or load. However, it should not cause the engine to exceed specs or overheat. Check the operating manual for normal temperature range for your engine.
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising – Bonaire
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 4:16 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling
 
 
Mark, I have always insured that my impeller was in good shape and keep my heat exchanger clean. Excuse my ignorance , but does all the raw water pass through that channel ,I suppose it does . This was the first time I ever had the elbow off. It appears that I have stumbled onto the cause of a puzzling problem I have had for some time. When my rpms went up so did my temperature . Maybe having to take off and rebuild my turbo was a good thing. Cautionary note, I sucked up a paper towel left in the engine room into the air intake for the turbo. I am now putting a screen across the inlet to prevent anything from being suck in.
Thanks,
Pat SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Fri, May 4, 2018 3:38 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling
 
Pat,
 
Any obstruction on the salt-water cooling side before or after raw water pump is going to impede flow and cause the engine to run hot. So the answer is, yes.
 
The most common causes for a boat engine to run hot (assuming adequate water flow is available) is a damaged impeller or blocked heat exchanger/after cooler.
 
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Bonaire
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:18 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling
 
 
I think my boat has been running hot for for a couple of years . I just ran it for about 45 minutes after launching and it ran much cooler than previously. The only thing I have done , is that I cleaned the exhaust elbow, it was not that bad. However I also reamed out the channel that I believe water passes through. My question... If that channel is partially blocked would that result in the engine runner hotter.
Thanks,
Pat SM#123


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

Mark Erdos
 

Pat,

 

It is normal for the temperature to increase a little with the increase of RPM or load. However, it should not cause the engine to exceed specs or overheat. Check the operating manual for normal temperature range for your engine.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 4:16 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

 

 

Mark, I have always insured that my impeller was in good shape and keep my heat exchanger clean. Excuse my ignorance , but does all the raw water pass through that channel ,I suppose it does . This was the first time I ever had the elbow off. It appears that I have stumbled onto the cause of a puzzling problem I have had for some time. When my rpms went up so did my temperature . Maybe having to take off and rebuild my turbo was a good thing. Cautionary note, I sucked up a paper towel left in the engine room into the air intake for the turbo. I am now putting a screen across the inlet to prevent anything from being suck in.

Thanks,

Pat SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, May 4, 2018 3:38 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

 

Pat,

 

Any obstruction on the salt-water cooling side before or after raw water pump is going to impede flow and cause the engine to run hot. So the answer is, yes.

 

The most common causes for a boat engine to run hot (assuming adequate water flow is available) is a damaged impeller or blocked heat exchanger/after cooler.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:18 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Exhaust elbow and cooling

 

 

I think my boat has been running hot for for a couple of years . I just ran it for about 45 minutes after launching and it ran much cooler than previously. The only thing I have done , is that I cleaned the exhaust elbow, it was not that bad. However I also reamed out the channel that I believe water passes through. My question... If that channel is partially blocked would that result in the engine runner hotter.

Thanks,

Pat SM#123


Access to A/C capacitors on Amel 54

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
 

My 2008 Amel 54 is equipped with Climma Compact 12 R EH units. The compressor works but the fan that is supposed to regulate fan speed does not start. I suspect that one or more of the 2 capacitors on this unit is/are dead. They are located under a grey box (with a removable black cover in the back) that is supported by a stainless steel plate. The capacitors are attached inside the vertical portion of this stainless steel plate by a plastic tie.

I cannot figure out how to get to these capacitors to check/replace them.

Any assistance will be deeply appreciated.

Christine
Galacsea 2