Date   

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Standing rigging wire size on Santorin

tfortner1975
 

Hello Simon, 

On the 1990 SN27 Sloop:
The forestay, backstay and 2 outer cap shrouds are 10mm. 
The other cap and inner shrouds are 8mm. 

Also, if you wanted to use ACMO (the original) you can email them or Maud from Amel. I’ve spoken with ACMO and they had on file the details for SN27. They should be able to provide the exact rigging quote, including shipping, ready to install. 

Trevor
SV Iris, SN27
Miri, Malaysia 



On Oct 14, 2018, at 5:04 PM, s90.simon@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello

I was wondering what the size (diameter) of the different steel wires on the sloop rigged Amel Santorin are? The one I have been looking at needs to have its standing rigging replaced and I'm trying to calculate how much that would cost. Unfortunately I forgot to measure this when I visited the boat. Hopefully someone here can help me.


Best regards

Simon


Standing rigging wire size on Santorin

s90.simon@...
 

Hello

I was wondering what the size (diameter) of the different steel wires on the sloop rigged Amel Santorin are? The one I have been looking at needs to have its standing rigging replaced and I'm trying to calculate how much that would cost. Unfortunately I forgot to measure this when I visited the boat. Hopefully someone here can help me.


Best regards

Simon


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance question in case of total loss

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Bill,

But last November I “NEVER” received the renewal of the policy…
If I had, it would have been forwarded to my lawyers like everything else (marina suing me, etc.).

I definitely will forward the message to my lawyers to cancel the insurance.

Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sat, 10/13/18, Bill Rouse brouse@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance question in case of total loss
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, October 13, 2018, 4:04 PM


 









Alex,
I do not know who
is giving you advice, but your contract states several ways
for YOU to cancel the contract. I think the insurance
company is morally and ethically very wrong, but the way I
read your contract, they are technically right, and, you are
wrong for not cancelling the policy under  the terms of the
contract.
If the person giving you advice has advised you not
to cancel, or if the
person advising you has said nothing about your ability and
responsibility to cancel, I think you need to get advice
from someone else (not me, as I am not
qualified).
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Admiral,
Texas Navy
Commander
Emeritus
Amel School  
720 Winnie
St
Galveston Island, TX
77550
+1(832)
380-4970My
Calendar 

On Sat, Oct
13, 2018 at 2:53 PM Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@rocketmail.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Good afternoon Bill & Bill,



Thanks for your replies.



Bill R.

So in my case the loss was Sept 6 (Hurricane Irma).

My Helvetia expired October 20.

They say they sent me a renewal but I never received it.


Then in January sent a letter that I owe the insurance, my
lawyers replied, then another letter in Feb, again my
lawyers replied, then again in March, my lawyers called and
the insurance told them that since they did not send the
letter via certified mail, this was not valid.

Since they hire a “collection agency” to ask for this
year’s premium (so Oct 20, 2017 to Oct 20 2018), which my
lawyers told me not to pay.

The insurance excuse is that I did not cancel the insurance,
but again I never received the renewal.

Their reason is that since I did not received the settlement
(because I contested it) the insurance has to continue…


And now they blocked the payment of the “partial” amount
(which is the one they offer, not the one that they owe).


No, I no longer own NIKIMAT, in fact I was told it was
shredded.

Thanks again for your help!



Bill K,

Thanks also for taking the time to reply and share your
policy.

My policy is definitely confusing to interpret, as yes,
article 8.4.4 I am supposed to keep paying the policy until
I receive the settlement.

Yes great incentive for them as should we go to court, it
will take 2 years...

Yes I was told that in case of total loss they would get the
entire year’s premium, even thought the loss could happen
at half the year… I wouldn’t mind that… but yes
wouldn’t be fair is you had a total loss early on the
year…

Anyway, thanks again for your reply.



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 10/13/18, greatketch@yahoo.com
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance question in case
of total loss

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Saturday, October 13, 2018, 10:37 AM





 



















Alexandre,

(I

am not a lawyer, and give no legal advice, I just read
what

the policy says...)

Our policy from Pantaenious has no

such language in the event of a total loss. Your policy

language is very troublesome to me because it seems to

require you to keep paying premiums until you accept
their

settlement offer. Great incentive for them to drag it out
as

long as possible, and for you to settle for less than
you

are owed. 



Our policy has the

following, which goes to a similar point but, to me,
seems

much fairer to all parties:...

the annual premium is deemed

fully earned and non-refundable upon Pantaenius’

obligation to pay

any claim, cost or damage

reimbursement. Pantaenius shall have the right

to offset

any outstanding premium against any such obligation to

make payment on a claim, cost, or damage

reimbursement. 















In other words, if I (or they) cancel the policy
before

the end of the year, I receive a pro-rated
refund--unless

there has been a claim. In which case Pantaenius is owed
the

entire year's premium. If the entire year's
premium

has not yet been paid, they subtract the amount owed
from

the final claim settlement.  Payment of an owed
settlement

is not predicated on continued payment.  There is no

requirement for ongoing payments in order to get the

settlement for a loss covered by a valid policy, so no
time

pressure to accept the settlement, and no extra cash flow
to

them for being slow to pay.

To me, this seems only

fair.  They have averaged the risks over the entire
year,

and if I have a claim they should be paid for that full

year--no matter when the loss occurs. Our policy does
not

cover us one day at a time, but for the full year at one

go.

By way of an extreme

example, it would be unreasonable for me to have a total

loss on the first day of the policy year, and then expect
to

pay only 1/365th of the annual premium.

Again, not legal advice,

just my thoughts.

Bill KinneySM160, HarmonieAnnapolis, MD,

USA



---In

amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com,
<uster@...> wrote

:



Dear Amel owners,







On my insurance policy (Helvetia subscribed through

insurance DeLassee) it says (article 8.4.4) that my

insurance is automatically canceled in case of total loss
-

BUT (last line of that paragraph) that the insurance
only

stops when then settlement has been paid.







Which is why the insurance still ask me to pay the
premium

for this year and likely the next one (since it is 25%
less

than the agreed value I am contesting it).







Does your insurance says the same thing?







Thanks in advance, sincerely,

Alexandre


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance question in case of total loss

 

Alex,

I do not know who is giving you advice, but your contract states several ways for YOU to cancel the contract. I think the insurance company is morally and ethically very wrong, but the way I read your contract, they are technically right, and, you are wrong for not cancelling the policy under  the terms of the contract.

If the person giving you advice has advised you not to cancel, or if the person advising you has said nothing about your ability and responsibility to cancel, I think you need to get advice from someone else (not me, as I am not qualified).

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 2:53 PM Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good afternoon Bill & Bill,

Thanks for your replies.

Bill R.
So in my case the loss was Sept 6 (Hurricane Irma).
My Helvetia expired October 20.
They say they sent me a renewal but I never received it.
Then in January sent a letter that I owe the insurance, my lawyers replied, then another letter in Feb, again my lawyers replied, then again in March, my lawyers called and the insurance told them that since they did not send the letter via certified mail, this was not valid.
Since they hire a “collection agency” to ask for this year’s premium (so Oct 20, 2017 to Oct 20 2018), which my lawyers told me not to pay.
The insurance excuse is that I did not cancel the insurance, but again I never received the renewal.
Their reason is that since I did not received the settlement (because I contested it) the insurance has to continue…
And now they blocked the payment of the “partial” amount (which is the one they offer, not the one that they owe).
No, I no longer own NIKIMAT, in fact I was told it was shredded.
Thanks again for your help!

Bill K,
Thanks also for taking the time to reply and share your policy.
My policy is definitely confusing to interpret, as yes, article 8.4.4 I am supposed to keep paying the policy until I receive the settlement.
Yes great incentive for them as should we go to court, it will take 2 years..
Yes I was told that in case of total loss they would get the entire year’s premium, even thought the loss could happen at half the year… I wouldn’t mind that… but yes wouldn’t be fair is you had a total loss early on the year…
Anyway, thanks again for your reply.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 10/13/18, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance question in case of total loss
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, October 13, 2018, 10:37 AM


 









Alexandre,
(I
am not a lawyer, and give no legal advice, I just read what
the policy says...)
Our policy from Pantaenious has no
such language in the event of a total loss. Your policy
language is very troublesome to me because it seems to
require you to keep paying premiums until you accept their
settlement offer. Great incentive for them to drag it out as
long as possible, and for you to settle for less than you
are owed. 

Our policy has the
following, which goes to a similar point but, to me, seems
much fairer to all parties:...
the annual premium is deemed
fully earned and non-refundable upon Pantaenius’
obligation to pay
any claim, cost or damage
reimbursement. Pantaenius shall have the right
to offset
any outstanding premium against any such obligation to
make payment on a claim, cost, or damage
reimbursement. 







In other words, if I (or they) cancel the policy before
the end of the year, I receive a pro-rated refund--unless
there has been a claim. In which case Pantaenius is owed the
entire year's premium. If the entire year's premium
has not yet been paid, they subtract the amount owed from
the final claim settlement.  Payment of an owed settlement
is not predicated on continued payment.  There is no
requirement for ongoing payments in order to get the
settlement for a loss covered by a valid policy, so no time
pressure to accept the settlement, and no extra cash flow to
them for being slow to pay.
To me, this seems only
fair.  They have averaged the risks over the entire year,
and if I have a claim they should be paid for that full
year--no matter when the loss occurs. Our policy does not
cover us one day at a time, but for the full year at one
go.
By way of an extreme
example, it would be unreasonable for me to have a total
loss on the first day of the policy year, and then expect to
pay only 1/365th of the annual premium.
Again, not legal advice,
just my thoughts.
Bill KinneySM160, HarmonieAnnapolis, MD,
USA

---In
amelyachtowners@..., wrote
:

Dear Amel owners,



On my insurance policy (Helvetia subscribed through
insurance DeLassee) it says (article 8.4.4) that my
insurance is automatically canceled in case of total loss -
BUT (last line of that paragraph) that the insurance only
stops when then settlement has been paid.



Which is why the insurance still ask me to pay the premium
for this year and likely the next one (since it is 25% less
than the agreed value I am contesting it).



Does your insurance says the same thing?



Thanks in advance, sincerely,
Alexandre






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance question in case of total loss

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Bill & Bill,

Thanks for your replies.

Bill R.
So in my case the loss was Sept 6 (Hurricane Irma).
My Helvetia expired October 20.
They say they sent me a renewal but I never received it.
Then in January sent a letter that I owe the insurance, my lawyers replied, then another letter in Feb, again my lawyers replied, then again in March, my lawyers called and the insurance told them that since they did not send the letter via certified mail, this was not valid.
Since they hire a “collection agency” to ask for this year’s premium (so Oct 20, 2017 to Oct 20 2018), which my lawyers told me not to pay.
The insurance excuse is that I did not cancel the insurance, but again I never received the renewal.
Their reason is that since I did not received the settlement (because I contested it) the insurance has to continue…
And now they blocked the payment of the “partial” amount (which is the one they offer, not the one that they owe).
No, I no longer own NIKIMAT, in fact I was told it was shredded.
Thanks again for your help!

Bill K,
Thanks also for taking the time to reply and share your policy.
My policy is definitely confusing to interpret, as yes, article 8.4.4 I am supposed to keep paying the policy until I receive the settlement.
Yes great incentive for them as should we go to court, it will take 2 years.
Yes I was told that in case of total loss they would get the entire year’s premium, even thought the loss could happen at half the year… I wouldn’t mind that… but yes wouldn’t be fair is you had a total loss early on the year…
Anyway, thanks again for your reply.

Sincerely, Alexandre





--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 10/13/18, greatketch@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance question in case of total loss
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 13, 2018, 10:37 AM


 









Alexandre,
(I
am not a lawyer, and give no legal advice, I just read what
the policy says...)
Our policy from Pantaenious has no
such language in the event of a total loss. Your policy
language is very troublesome to me because it seems to
require you to keep paying premiums until you accept their
settlement offer. Great incentive for them to drag it out as
long as possible, and for you to settle for less than you
are owed. 

Our policy has the
following, which goes to a similar point but, to me, seems
much fairer to all parties:...
the annual premium is deemed
fully earned and non-refundable upon Pantaenius’
obligation to pay
any claim, cost or damage
reimbursement. Pantaenius shall have the right
to offset
any outstanding premium against any such obligation to
make payment on a claim, cost, or damage
reimbursement. 







In other words, if I (or they) cancel the policy before
the end of the year, I receive a pro-rated refund--unless
there has been a claim. In which case Pantaenius is owed the
entire year's premium. If the entire year's premium
has not yet been paid, they subtract the amount owed from
the final claim settlement.  Payment of an owed settlement
is not predicated on continued payment.  There is no
requirement for ongoing payments in order to get the
settlement for a loss covered by a valid policy, so no time
pressure to accept the settlement, and no extra cash flow to
them for being slow to pay.
To me, this seems only
fair.  They have averaged the risks over the entire year,
and if I have a claim they should be paid for that full
year--no matter when the loss occurs. Our policy does not
cover us one day at a time, but for the full year at one
go.
By way of an extreme
example, it would be unreasonable for me to have a total
loss on the first day of the policy year, and then expect to
pay only 1/365th of the annual premium.
Again, not legal advice,
just my thoughts.
Bill KinneySM160, HarmonieAnnapolis, MD,
USA

---In
amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, <uster@...> wrote
:

Dear Amel owners,



On my insurance policy (Helvetia subscribed through
insurance DeLassee) it says (article 8.4.4) that my
insurance is automatically canceled in case of total loss -
BUT (last line of that paragraph) that the insurance only
stops when then settlement has been paid.



Which is why the insurance still ask me to pay the premium
for this year and likely the next one (since it is 25% less
than the agreed value I am contesting it).



Does your insurance says the same thing?



Thanks in advance, sincerely,
Alexandre


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance question in case of total loss [1 Attachment]

 

Alex,

8.4.4 describes the terms of an "Automatic Termination for Total Loss." However, "8.4.1 – By you or us" specifies all of the conditions on which you can terminate...there are several options for you to terminate...remember as long as the loss date is prior to the termination date, you are covered for the loss. Also, 8.4.1 states, "Your contract is automatically suspended on the day following the sale at zero hour." I assume that you no longer own your boat, that, in fact, it has been sold to the salvage company.

I believe you have been given bad advice, but I am no expert.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 9:27 AM Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dear Amel owners,

On my insurance policy (Helvetia subscribed through insurance DeLassee) it says (article 8.4.4) that my insurance is automatically canceled in case of total loss - BUT (last line of that paragraph) that the insurance only stops when then settlement has been paid.

Which is why the insurance still ask me to pay the premium for this year and likely the next one (since it is 25% less than the agreed value I am contesting it).

Does your insurance says the same thing?

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre


Re: Insurance question in case of total loss

greatketch@...
 

Alexandre,

(I am not a lawyer, and give no legal advice, I just read what the policy says...)

Our policy from Pantaenious has no such language in the event of a total loss. Your policy language is very troublesome to me because it seems to require you to keep paying premiums until you accept their settlement offer. Great incentive for them to drag it out as long as possible, and for you to settle for less than you are owed. 

Our policy has the following, which goes to a similar point but, to me, seems much fairer to all parties:

... the annual premium is deemed fully earned and non-refundable upon Pantaenius’ obligation to pay any claim, cost or damage reimbursement. Pantaenius shall have the right to offset any outstanding premium against any such obligation to make payment on a claim, cost, or damage reimbursement. 

In other words, if I (or they) cancel the policy before the end of the year, I receive a pro-rated refund--unless there has been a claim. In which case Pantaenius is owed the entire year's premium. If the entire year's premium has not yet been paid, they subtract the amount owed from the final claim settlement.  Payment of an owed settlement is not predicated on continued payment.  There is no requirement for ongoing payments in order to get the settlement for a loss covered by a valid policy, so no time pressure to accept the settlement, and no extra cash flow to them for being slow to pay.

To me, this seems only fair.  They have averaged the risks over the entire year, and if I have a claim they should be paid for that full year--no matter when the loss occurs. Our policy does not cover us one day at a time, but for the full year at one go.

By way of an extreme example, it would be unreasonable for me to have a total loss on the first day of the policy year, and then expect to pay only 1/365th of the annual premium.

Again, not legal advice, just my thoughts.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., <uster@...> wrote :

Dear Amel owners,

On my insurance policy (Helvetia subscribed through insurance DeLassee) it says (article 8.4.4) that my insurance is automatically canceled in case of total loss - BUT (last line of that paragraph) that the insurance only stops when then settlement has been paid.

Which is why the insurance still ask me to pay the premium for this year and likely the next one (since it is 25% less than the agreed value I am contesting it).

Does your insurance says the same thing?

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre


Insurance question in case of total loss

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Dear Amel owners,

On my insurance policy (Helvetia subscribed through insurance DeLassee) it says (article 8.4.4) that my insurance is automatically canceled in case of total loss - BUT (last line of that paragraph) that the insurance only stops when then settlement has been paid.

Which is why the insurance still ask me to pay the premium for this year and likely the next one (since it is 25% less than the agreed value I am contesting it).

Does your insurance says the same thing?

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre


Re: Change of group ownership

Craig Briggs
 

Jose Luis,

Good job since, I think, 2011 - that's yeoman's duty!  
Many thanks and fair winds.

Bill, that means you've got it thru 2025!

Cheers, 
Craig Briggs, SN68


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership

Peter Forbes
 

I agree, what a contribution - this is an outstanding group.

Thank you Bill for so gallantly taking on this role.

Peter
Peter Forbes
0044 7836 209730
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
In La Rochelle

On 12 Oct 2018, at 22:54, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thank so much for your great support and help. 
This forum has been a wonderful resource over the years.
We know it is in good hand with Bill. 
Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 10/12/18, lji0041@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, October 12, 2018, 12:34 PM


 









To
all mates:
Most
of you know that I have been what Yahoo calls the
"owner" (primary administrator) of the Amel Yacht
Owners Group for some years. I assumed this position when
asked by the original founder and "owner" of the
group, Eric (Closereach).
I
have really enjoyed our group and all of its members.
Recently, I asked Bill Rouse to assume my position as I was
struggling to keep it due to personal reasons. Bill
graciously accepted. I will continue to be a member, but no
longer "owner." Yahoo must have one person
designated as "owner" for each currently
maintained Yahoo Group."
Bill
has been always helping me, as to others, and I am glad he
took a step forward when I could no longer sustain properly
my position.
I
still keep my Amel Euros 41, based in Burriana, in the
Spanish coast of the Mediterranean sea, although I currently
live in Madrid. Hope to see you guys sometime,
somewhere.
All
the bestJL






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Change of group ownership

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

A huge thank you from us JL. This group has been amazing, and has added significantly to the Amel brand value in our view.

You should be very proud of what you achieved here over so many years, and as for Bill Rouse taking over, well done and thank you Bill. There could certainly be no better replacement.

This leaves us all with much confidence going forwards.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II
Cape Town, South Africa

On Sat, 13 Oct. 2018, 07:37 rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners], <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you so much!  Your group has made all the difference for so many of us!  Enjoy your retirement, you earned it!

Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma A/C saltwater plumbing - Using barnacle buster.

rossirossix4
 

I know that most everyone knows this but...when mixing, add the acid to the water, not the water to the acid. Add small amounts at a time, and have a full water bottle for eye wash and a hose or sprinkler handy just in case you splash or spill.  Ditto for working with batteries.
Bob, KAIMI


Re: Change of group ownership

rossirossix4
 

Thank you so much!  Your group has made all the difference for so many of us!  Enjoy your retirement, you earned it!
Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI


New Administrator

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi JL,

I would like to add my thanks to you for the work you have done for this group. It has proved to be an amazing resource, indispensable I believe for the future of the Amel fleet. We have all had more pleasure from our boats because of this forum. You have been instrumental in maintaining the value of our boats. I will also add my thanks the the very knowledgeable contributors who have generously shared their knowledge, you know who they are so I wont name them.

Kind Regards and wishing you well for the future.

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership

Mike Ondra
 

Hello JL,

What you had started with this  bulletin board has become an indispensable tool for maintaining our wonderful vessels (and for many, their floating homes).

Kudos and great thanks to you for your service to our Amel sailing community.

Fair winds,

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 1:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership

 

 

To all mates:

 

Most of you know that I have been what Yahoo calls the "owner" (primary administrator) of the Amel Yacht Owners Group for some years. I assumed this position when asked by the original founder and "owner" of the group, Eric (Closereach).

 

I have really enjoyed our group and all of its members. Recently, I asked Bill Rouse to assume my position as I was struggling to keep it due to personal reasons. Bill graciously accepted. I will continue to be a member, but no longer "owner." Yahoo must have one person designated as "owner" for each currently maintained Yahoo Group."

 

Bill has been always helping me, as to others, and I am glad he took a step forward when I could no longer sustain properly my position.

 

I still keep my Amel Euros 41, based in Burriana, in the Spanish coast of the Mediterranean sea, although I currently live in Madrid. Hope to see you guys sometime, somewhere.

 

All the best

JL


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Change of group ownership

michael winand
 

Thanks for creating a great owners group. Fantastic sharing of Amel knowledge and knowhow.

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 at 10:52, trifin@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

Hi JL,
Thank you for your work at the helm as Owner/Administrator. Since becoming a new Amel owner last year, I have found this group to be invaluable, and none of that happens without your work behind the scenes. Thank you.

Bill, thanks for taking over the responsibility, I’m sure you’ll do a fine job.

Cheers
Dean
SY STELLA
Amel 54#154


Re: Change of group ownership

Dean Gillies
 

Hi JL,
Thank you for your work at the helm as Owner/Administrator. Since becoming a new Amel owner last year, I have found this group to be invaluable, and none of that happens without your work behind the scenes. Thank you.

Bill, thanks for taking over the responsibility, I’m sure you’ll do a fine job.

Cheers
Dean
SY STELLA
Amel 54#154


Amel Yacht Owners Group

 

As a follow-up to Jose's email about "primary administrator" change to me, I would like to announce that we have 4 volunteer moderators. The primary duty of our moderators is to approve new members to the group. They are:
Mark McGovern - CARA
Gary Wells - ADAGIO
Mark Erdos - CREAM PUFF
Danny Simms - OCEAN PEARL

I changed the requirements for membership in the group to read: 
"Membership is restricted to either actual Amel Yacht owners, or those who plan to buy a new or used Amel Yacht. This group does not allow public advertising.  Please refrain from political issues, rude, or inappropriate language. 

To join: Please follow directions at SIGN IN and include your Amel, Model (Maramu, Mango, Santorin, Super Maramu, 54, 55, 64), and Hull Number, or a statement that you are looking for an Amel and Model  _______ ."

There are no other changes envisioned or planned.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership

karkauai
 

Thank you for taking that position on and doing a great job, I might add!  Enjoy your respite.

And Bill, thank you again for all you do for this great group of Amelians.  It was a real pleasure to finally meet you, and all the other folks at the Rendezvous.

Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Oct 12, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank so much for your great support and help.
This forum has been a wonderful resource over the years.
We know it is in good hand with Bill.
Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Fri, 10/12/18, lji0041@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Change of group ownership
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, October 12, 2018, 12:34 PM


 









To
all mates:
Most
of you know that I have been what Yahoo calls the
"owner" (primary administrator) of the Amel Yacht
Owners Group for some years. I assumed this position when
asked by the original founder and "owner" of the
group, Eric (Closereach).
I
have really enjoyed our group and all of its members.
Recently, I asked Bill Rouse to assume my position as I was
struggling to keep it due to personal reasons. Bill
graciously accepted. I will continue to be a member, but no
longer "owner." Yahoo must have one person
designated as "owner" for each currently
maintained Yahoo Group."
Bill
has been always helping me, as to others, and I am glad he
took a step forward when I could no longer sustain properly
my position.
I
still keep my Amel Euros 41, based in Burriana, in the
Spanish coast of the Mediterranean sea, although I currently
live in Madrid. Hope to see you guys sometime,
somewhere.
All
the bestJL





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma A/C saltwater plumbing - Using barnacle buster.

karkauai
 

Hi Eric,
I dilute the concentrate in 4 gallons of water, close the sea cock, and pour it in the sea chest with the AC cooling pump running.  After a gallon or so has been pumped through, I let it sit overnight and then run the AC pump with sea water as usual.

I do the same procedure with the Yanmar and Onan.

So far my hoses and manifold are all clean as a whistle after doing this twice a year for 10 years.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Oct 11, 2018, at 11:48 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

Are we speaking about the AC cooling line?

My plan was you use the Barnacle buster circulating tank and hook it up to the input of the engine room

Manifold, then run a garden hose from the output seacock and back to the circulating bucket.

They suggested to use it for 4-6 hours.

Did you dilute the barnacle buster and if so what ratio?

I will also do so with the engine and genset. I plan on disconnecting the water input to the watermaker while doing this.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Climma A/C saltwater plumbing - Using barnacle buster.

 

 

I just flush with B.B. and let it sit i the lines over night once a year.  So far all lines and manifold are free of any growth or scale.

Kent

SM 243

Kristy


On Oct 11, 2018, at 10:56 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Has anyone used barnacle buster and a circulating pump on the ac cooling water lines?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

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