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Re: OPACMARE gangway not rotating

luvkante
 

Arno,

do you have a OPACMARE part# of the rotary actuator?

Martin
AMEL54 #149 „CHIARA“ 

Re: Volvo D3 oil pressure

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Ralph,

 

Thanks, but the oil pressure was manually measured and confirmed to be low.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of ralph.heilig
Sent: 02 May 2020 09:57
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 oil pressure

 

[Edited Message Follows]

I had a faulty oil pressure Sensor - Error was" low oil pressure" - tested and it was only a faulty oil sensor ( this happend after 80 hours nonstop motoring on flat see - 4 days nonstop - Maybe the sensor stuck due to this. Since my Engine is 2008 - there are differne oil sensors - the Electric Connection of the "actual" D3 oil sensor does no more fit-I found one on eBay that fitted on my D3 (Part Nr. 863169).

I also had mechanic's on board testing manually the oil pressure. All the test's (or there equipment) where pretty inacurate.
I first would try replacing the oil pressure Sensor.

Ralph
A54 #144


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Volvo D3 oil pressure

Ralph Heilig
 
Edited

I had a faulty oil pressure Sensor - Error was" low oil pressure" - tested and it was only a faulty oil sensor ( this happend after 80 hours nonstop motoring on flat see - 4 days nonstop - Maybe the sensor stuck due to this. Since my Engine is 2008 - there are differne oil sensors - the Electric Connection of the "actual" D3 oil sensor does no more fit-I found one on eBay that fitted on my D3 (Part Nr. 863169).

I also had mechanic's on board testing manually the oil pressure. All the test's (or there equipment) where pretty inacurate.
I first would try replacing the oil pressure Sensor.

Ralph
A54 #144

Re: "Bird Cage" TV Antenna

Marco Mancini
 

Dear Duane,
I have seen only now your message. We have the same difficulty in recieving the DTV  tv signal also mooring  in places where the tv signal is very good.
I Confirm  the possible shortcut on the head of the mast and the huge signal dispersion In fact  I noticed that one we switch on  the main mast navigation lights and the while the tv  is on we have the termic switch of the lights that swich off.
Do you have a picture of the masterhead you mentioned .?
 I have understood from your email that this cover contains the connection with the antenna and the rusted part is inside and  not visible  from a simple visual inspection on the mast head. Am I right ?
marco
Desiree SM 304

Re: OPACMARE gangway not rotating

Arno Luijten
 

Hj Greg,

The actuator is pure hydraulic/mechanical. It has two oil connectors. Push oil in one and the thing rotates in one direction, pushing oil from the other connection. Reversal by putting pressure in the other connector. 

Opacmare does not make this thing themselves. It’s a more or less generic part that can also be used in other machinery. We tried to find out who actually makes it but Opacmare removed any reference from the actuator. 

My guess is the thing was never designed for the marine environment and Opacmare did a sloppy job protecting it from salt water. 


Regards,
Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

Dean Gillies
 

I would certainly appreciate Zoom sessions with subject matter experts who can keep us up to date on topics which are relevant to our vessels.
Maybe we can add Instrumentation Systems (B&G, Furuno, Raymarine etc) to the list.  Also of interest would be Communications Systems (Satellite, SSB, etc).
You have created a (nice) monster Bill 👍
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154

Re: New file uploaded to main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io

karkauai
 

Great, thanks Bill.

On Apr 27, 2020 7:51 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Kent,

I talked to Steve about it. There were some errors in the file that were made by Steve's contractor. That file was removed from the files section.

This file may help you. It is everything that was in Steve's file with some added things. It is available to you through my website at CLIENT ACCESS>>Book Supplements>>Product Information>>Part 1 Deck & Hull>>Engine Hatch Bulge Repair. There are some other files at that location, including another hatch repair method. 


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 6:24 PM karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill

I can't find the file uploaded by Steve Bell for engine room hatch repair. I clicked on the link in the notification email which took me to Files, but I can't find it.

Help!
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

On Apr 25, 2020 6:30 PM, "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification" <main+notification@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> wrote:

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that the following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io group.

Uploaded By: steve b <stevect@...>

Description:
Repair of engine hatch bulges

Cheers,
The Groups.io Team



Re: OPACMARE gangway not rotating

Gregory Shea
 

Arno, 
Is the actuator totally hydraulic or is there an electrical component to it. If there is any electro-magnetic control/clutch function, the manufacturer must use low carbon mild steel to concentrate the magnetic flux (think soft iron core in a transformer). Could this be the reason they used material that is so unsuitable in a marine environment?

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles



From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...>
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 9:25 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] OPACMARE gangway not rotating
 
Hi Carina,

You were very fortunate. Our actuator was seized up so bad that the whole workshop of FKG hydraulics here in St. Maarten found no way to disassemble the thing. I suppose if there is still some motion in the actuator you will be able to take it apart. That seems good news for Chiara.

To your comments about Opacmare. Yes we had trouble with them as well, although not as bad as you describe. On the other hand , a fellow boat owner had a passerelle from a different manufacturer and he also suffered huge communication and cooperation problems with that vendor. Apparently business for these people to too good to care about after-sales... Me thinks that will have changed post-covid time.

REgards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hi Bill, 

Both suggestions would please greatly 

Kind regards

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM007, NZ



On 2/05/2020, at 3:55 AM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

That would be awesome Bill. I couldnt attend the last meeting as I had a conflict with my work schedule but looking forward to more of these calls.

Re: Insurance Companies

Teun BAAS
 

Hi Mark,

 

Really appreciate your and the other members help on this.

 

Yes Sir – all of these are part of the 6 or 7 I approached.

 

Y-Yacht Niki: reason 1 and 5 on my list

The Marina Shop – still waiting but informed me I needed new rigging

Gowrie – the RI agent reason #7 and the FL agent reason #3 and #4 but she is now working on this again.

 

Top Sail is the ONLY one coming back with a proposal which I am currently discussing as I would like to have additional hard storage coverage as long as I am not back to the boat (might be for another 4 to 6 months). BTW a very, very fair proposal and only requiring a rigging survey which is fine with me.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 1, 2020 11:20:17

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Erdos via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 11:11
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance Companies

 

Teun,

 

Have you tried:

 

Y-Yacht (UK – EU)- http://www.yyachtinsurance.com/

The Marina Shop (NZ) - https://www.marine-insurance.co.nz/

Top Sail (UK) - https://www.topsailinsurance.com (10% discount for OCC members)

Growrie (USA) - https://gowrie.com/Marine-Insurance/JacklineProgram.aspx

 

All of these have good reputations and will write a policy for international blue water sailors.  

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Teun BAAS
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 7:21 AM
To:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

 

Bill,

 

I think that insurance is a very big issue. I have now approached 6 to 7 agents/companies mentioned on our AYOG Forum and get very conflicting reasons of not willing to write insurance, like:

 

  1. You are USA citizen (although I pointed out several times I am NOT – I am a DUTCH citizen).
  2. But you do have a USA address (correct but I can give you legal non-USA addresses)
  3. You are NOT a USA citizen or resident (I am a LEGAL USA resident since 1986 and just had my green card renewed in February for 10 years) and this policy is specifically for USA citizens and/or residents and/or boats and/or ….
  4. You don’t have a USA address (YES I do – pls see the application)
  5. We don’t cover your navigational limits (AUSTRALIA etc.)

 

In talking to agents recommended via our AYOG forum I realize few of them remember/recognize the AMEL specific 6 or 7 watertight compartments so they tell me I need additional pumps on board; our overbuild rigging etc. etc.; and tell me I need to renew my rigging (just surveyed in December 2019 in COOMERA) because it is now 10 years old.

 

In all honesty: agency on #3 and #4 is now looking at this again after I wrote back I was a USA resident and had a USA address she replied she was going to look into this.

 

I know I am not the only AMEL owner having this problem – another member mentioned on the forum maybe looking at organizing our own group insurance (maybe via LLOYDS ?? they are used to write unusual policies)

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 1, 2020 10:02:02

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 08:46
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [Special] [AmelYachtOwners] Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

 

All,

The most common suggestion that I have received regarding the ZOOM meetings is to have expert guest speakers on subjects that are of interest to most of the members. I have contacted people I know, respect, and consider experts. I am awaiting replies from experts on:

Sails

Refrigeration 

Standing Rigging
Dessalator

Lithium Solutions
I also asked Antoine RIOTON from Amel to do a presentation on the Amel 50/60

Another suggestion I had was to find an "...Insurance Adjuster, whose role it is to be the interpreter of the policy, protecting only the insurance company in order to minimize liability and expenses.  This expert is the one we need to come and talk to us about insurance and how to get the best policy for the most reasonable price." I am aware of public marine insurance adjusters in Florida but have no direct knowledge of any of these.

Comments welcome.

I will keep you informed.
--

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

Image removed by sender.

Insurance Companies

Mark Erdos
 

Teun,

 

Have you tried:

 

Y-Yacht (UK – EU)- http://www.yyachtinsurance.com/

The Marina Shop (NZ) - https://www.marine-insurance.co.nz/

Top Sail (UK) - https://www.topsailinsurance.com (10% discount for OCC members)

Growrie (USA) - https://gowrie.com/Marine-Insurance/JacklineProgram.aspx

 

All of these have good reputations and will write a policy for international blue water sailors.  

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Teun BAAS
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 7:21 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

 

Bill,

 

I think that insurance is a very big issue. I have now approached 6 to 7 agents/companies mentioned on our AYOG Forum and get very conflicting reasons of not willing to write insurance, like:

 

  1. You are USA citizen (although I pointed out several times I am NOT – I am a DUTCH citizen).
  2. But you do have a USA address (correct but I can give you legal non-USA addresses)
  3. You are NOT a USA citizen or resident (I am a LEGAL USA resident since 1986 and just had my green card renewed in February for 10 years) and this policy is specifically for USA citizens and/or residents and/or boats and/or ….
  4. You don’t have a USA address (YES I do – pls see the application)
  5. We don’t cover your navigational limits (AUSTRALIA etc.)

 

In talking to agents recommended via our AYOG forum I realize few of them remember/recognize the AMEL specific 6 or 7 watertight compartments so they tell me I need additional pumps on board; our overbuild rigging etc. etc.; and tell me I need to renew my rigging (just surveyed in December 2019 in COOMERA) because it is now 10 years old.

 

In all honesty: agency on #3 and #4 is now looking at this again after I wrote back I was a USA resident and had a USA address she replied she was going to look into this.

 

I know I am not the only AMEL owner having this problem – another member mentioned on the forum maybe looking at organizing our own group insurance (maybe via LLOYDS ?? they are used to write unusual policies)

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 1, 2020 10:02:02

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 08:46
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [Special] [AmelYachtOwners] Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

 

All,

The most common suggestion that I have received regarding the ZOOM meetings is to have expert guest speakers on subjects that are of interest to most of the members. I have contacted people I know, respect, and consider experts. I am awaiting replies from experts on:

Sails

Refrigeration 

Standing Rigging
Dessalator

Lithium Solutions
I also asked Antoine RIOTON from Amel to do a presentation on the Amel 50/60

Another suggestion I had was to find an "...Insurance Adjuster, whose role it is to be the interpreter of the policy, protecting only the insurance company in order to minimize liability and expenses.  This expert is the one we need to come and talk to us about insurance and how to get the best policy for the most reasonable price." I am aware of public marine insurance adjusters in Florida but have no direct knowledge of any of these.

Comments welcome.

I will keep you informed.
--

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

Image removed by sender.

Re: Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

Teun BAAS
 

Bill,

 

I think that insurance is a very big issue. I have now approached 6 to 7 agents/companies mentioned on our AYOG Forum and get very conflicting reasons of not willing to write insurance, like:

 

  1. You are USA citizen (although I pointed out several times I am NOT – I am a DUTCH citizen).
  2. But you do have a USA address (correct but I can give you legal non-USA addresses)
  3. You are NOT a USA citizen or resident (I am a LEGAL USA resident since 1986 and just had my green card renewed in February for 10 years) and this policy is specifically for USA citizens and/or residents and/or boats and/or ….
  4. You don’t have a USA address (YES I do – pls see the application)
  5. We don’t cover your navigational limits (AUSTRALIA etc.)

 

In talking to agents recommended via our AYOG forum I realize few of them remember/recognize the AMEL specific 6 or 7 watertight compartments so they tell me I need additional pumps on board; our overbuild rigging etc. etc.; and tell me I need to renew my rigging (just surveyed in December 2019 in COOMERA) because it is now 10 years old.

 

In all honesty: agency on #3 and #4 is now looking at this again after I wrote back I was a USA resident and had a USA address she replied she was going to look into this.

 

I know I am not the only AMEL owner having this problem – another member mentioned on the forum maybe looking at organizing our own group insurance (maybe via LLOYDS ?? they are used to write unusual policies)

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54  #128

 

COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA

May 1, 2020 10:02:02

 

USA cell: +1 832 477 8842

AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909

 

You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 08:46
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [Special] [AmelYachtOwners] Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

 

All,

The most common suggestion that I have received regarding the ZOOM meetings is to have expert guest speakers on subjects that are of interest to most of the members. I have contacted people I know, respect, and consider experts. I am awaiting replies from experts on:

Sails

Refrigeration 

Standing Rigging
Dessalator

Lithium Solutions
I also asked Antoine RIOTON from Amel to do a presentation on the Amel 50/60

Another suggestion I had was to find an "...Insurance Adjuster, whose role it is to be the interpreter of the policy, protecting only the insurance company in order to minimize liability and expenses.  This expert is the one we need to come and talk to us about insurance and how to get the best policy for the most reasonable price." I am aware of public marine insurance adjusters in Florida but have no direct knowledge of any of these.

Comments welcome.

I will keep you informed.
--

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

Re: Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

Arlo
 

That would be awesome Bill. I couldnt attend the last meeting as I had a conflict with my work schedule but looking forward to more of these calls.

Additional ZOOM Meetings #ZOOM

 

All,

The most common suggestion that I have received regarding the ZOOM meetings is to have expert guest speakers on subjects that are of interest to most of the members. I have contacted people I know, respect, and consider experts. I am awaiting replies from experts on:
Sails
Refrigeration 
Standing Rigging
Dessalator
Lithium Solutions
I also asked Antoine RIOTON from Amel to do a presentation on the Amel 50/60
Another suggestion I had was to find an "...Insurance Adjuster, whose role it is to be the interpreter of the policy, protecting only the insurance company in order to minimize liability and expenses.  This expert is the one we need to come and talk to us about insurance and how to get the best policy for the most reasonable price." I am aware of public marine insurance adjusters in Florida but have no direct knowledge of any of these.

Comments welcome.

I will keep you informed.
--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

Re: OPACMARE gangway not rotating

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Carina,

You were very fortunate. Our actuator was seized up so bad that the whole workshop of FKG hydraulics here in St. Maarten found no way to disassemble the thing. I suppose if there is still some motion in the actuator you will be able to take it apart. That seems good news for Chiara.

To your comments about Opacmare. Yes we had trouble with them as well, although not as bad as you describe. On the other hand , a fellow boat owner had a passerelle from a different manufacturer and he also suffered huge communication and cooperation problems with that vendor. Apparently business for these people to too good to care about after-sales... Me thinks that will have changed post-covid time.

REgards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: OPACMARE gangway not rotating

luvkante
 

Arno,

that diagnosis is a shock!
I have to sit down and reflect, what to do.
Because CHIARA is currently in Varazze/Italy, I currently have no access.
As soon as I am back on board, I will see, what to do.

Martin
AMEL 54 # 149
CHIARA

Re: Volvo D3 oil pressure

amelforme
 

Hello Paul and keep us posted on what you discover. Be sure to get a spectrographic test as it will tell precisely, in parts per million/ppm, of everything in the oil other than the oil itself. Most of the chemical based tests just indicate the presence of wear elements but not the proportions.

 

Good luck with it all, Joel

      

 

       JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 4:41 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 oil pressure

 

Joel,

 

Thanks for this advice. About the pressure, he measured 30psi when it should have been 80. I’ll wait for opinion from the other engineer looking into this. He should also be able to change the oil and get an analysis done.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

Re: OPACMARE gangway not rotating

CARINA HAMMARLUND
 

Hi Martin,
we had the exact problem 3 years ago. After trying to communicate with Opacmare for over a month we gave up and took it apart ourselves.
the problem was corrosion. This is a very heave piece of equipment!
Conny constructed a tool himself to be able to take it apart, but I guess you can find such a tool at a well equipped tool shop. We did this at Spice Island Marina in Grenada. Conny donated the tool to Oscar, the mechanical manager at the yard.

Before taking it apart conny sprayed it with oil to dissolve the corrosion, days before trying to take it apart. It’s extremely important to clean it so you find the hole for the small Alan key that is the lock screw in the threading between the engine house and the ring you want to turn to take it apart.
it was 4 people working together to take it apart because it was so stuck! Arm yourself with a big portion of patience:)))

when it was disassembled he cleaned it and he also drilled a hole from the side and put in a grease nipple.

If you want to discuss it more in detail please send a pm to us and we can have a video call, Conny is happy to share what he learned in the process with you.


finally I must make a comment on Opacmare.
They where not helpful at all, they were not interested in sharing knowledge on how to repair the gangway they just wanted to sell us a new engine for 3000 euro!
Conny managed to repair ours for 7 euro!!!
but it was hard work.

Carina
SV Ultimo
Amel 54 No 165

Re: Volvo D3 oil pressure

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Joel,

 

Thanks for this advice. About the pressure, he measured 30psi when it should have been 80. I’ll wait for opinion from the other engineer looking into this. He should also be able to change the oil and get an analysis done.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of amelforme
Sent: 30 April 2020 17:56
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Cc: jfpottercys@...
Subject: FW: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo D3 oil pressure

 

Hello Paul. I had Amel 54 # 14. I did all the maintenance myself and had the workshop manual for the Volvo. I actually read the whole thing to full familiarize myself with this engine as I also previously had a SM 53 with a Volvo diesel. It was plenty of trouble for a brand new engine. Volvo ended up giving me a new replacement. I had been pushing hard for years with Mr. Carteau , Amel’s Chairman and Technical Director, to try Yanmar engines. We  soon did for North America and for Europe a little bit later. Amel went back to Volvo for the Amel 54 as it was a FADAC/computer controlled diesel that met the new and stricter emissions regulations as Yanmar did not quite have an available emissions compliant diesel in the required horsepower range. My Volvo D3 had several sensor failures with the computer control sensors. The first one was with the first potential client on the first sea trial  and I was ignominiously towed back to the dock . Not a good start…

Never had any mechanical problems with it and it didn’t use any oil between 100 hour changes either. The sensor problems did persist though and then vanished never to return. I hate head scratchers like that.

 

Amel switched to Pathfinder/marinized Volkswagen diesels, not to get away from Volvo as many assume but rather because Volvo decided  suddenly and with scant warning to quit building the D3 with the isolated negative/full earth return electrical system that Amel required. I believe one 54 got a Steyr diesel which, in my opinion,  is one of the best designed and built marine diesel engine with dealers all over the world.

 

Comments below. See if you can get the details I outlined from the gentleman who took the mechanical gauge oil pressure test.

 

All the Best, Joel         

 

       JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 7:03 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure

 

Many thanks to all who have replied. I’ll try to reply to the feedback.

 

This problem occurred immediately after an oil and oil filter change. I got the engineer involved after a few days when it started giving the warning whilst still at 1100rpm. The first thing the engineer did was to change the filter again for a genuine Volvo filter. That would tend to eliminate the check valve in the oil filter. Was the fresh oil added 4 hours ago the correct viscosity? Was it quality/branded oil like Shell Rotella or similar?

 

Re. oil analysis: Joel, as the oil is fresh – probably no more than 4 hours –  I doubt an analysis will yield anything significant – or am I wrong about that? More hours is better until you exceed recommended intervals. However, if the pressure is failing because of the clearances increasing, you will be shedding metal and this will be discernible at 4 hours. If you change the oil save some for a test if it later becomes obvious that it would be the correct thing to do. Take the sample from the last third of the oil extracted for best results.

The fact that the oil pressure is gradually getting worse would make me opt for a spectrographic analysis before any parts come off the engine. It is not expensive.

 

Re. oil consumption: The engine does not burn or lose any oil. That is encouraging.

 

Re. hours: engine hours are 1975.Way too young for self-destruction internally unless the engine was severely overheated or overloaded. If it is internal failure it would probably be due to manufacturers defect.

 

Re. historic maintenance – I have no details but I do know the boat had been extremely well taken care of so I doubt there is an issue here.

 

Re. pressure: I about the pressure, I didn’t personally take notes, but the engineer did measure the pressure using the external gauge at different rpm, up to about 2500 if I remember correctly. I am away from the boat and have asked them to send me this info. So, the mechanical gauge, for certain, confirmed that oil pressure at idle and up to around 1100RPM was below safe limits? If you can get the fellow who took the measurements to comment  about the following as he ran the RPM higher than 1100RPM it would be quite helpful…

Was the pressure increase linear or was it ‘jerky’ with plateaus and jumps?

As RPMs were increased, did the oil pressure always seem lower than what would be normal at that RPM?

If the oil pressure caught up with what would be considered normal, at what RPM did that happen?

 

Re. Pressure relief valve – I know nothing about that and it was not mentioned. Re. pump safety valve – again I have no knowledge about this and it was not mentioned. Oil pumps and associated regulating equipment are usually  carefully engineered and built to exacting standards as if these units fail everything else immediately follows suit. They seldom fail and when they do it is usually an immediate and catastrophic failure and not an incremental one. There are always exceptions…

 

Unfortunately I am away from the boat now until October. It is being looked after and I have contacted a friend who is an engineer in Grenada to investigate further. My concern is that if there is any bad weather the boat is not mobile – not a good situation.

 

Latest from the engineer: I would recommend to proceed with the following  after an oil analysis is completed as if the oil analysis tells of a failing engine the rest of this is unnecessary. It is usually not cost effective to rebuild  modern FADEC diesel  engines, particularly one that was in self consumption mode.

 

We can simply change the oil and filter, using Volvo filter and 15W40 HD oil as recommended, install a new pressure sensor and see what happens. If that isn't effective, there is a valve in the oil pump which could be stuck but because of your poor access we don't think the pump can come out without lifting the engine. The pump is on the crankshaft, behind the timing belt pulley(best replace that belt too) and this needs to be extracted; Stef says he doubts there would be room to get a puller between the engine and the bulkhead. The suction tube has a strainer and this could be blocked. The engine sump must be removed for this so engine definitely needs to come out. The sensor is not expensive, Euro 26.33 + freight. The valve is E 61.33, belt E 207.78, strainer E 61.33, seal E 25.11, gaskets and o-rings not much. Pump is not cheap at E 368.89. You suggested a new pump; I have not seen one give trouble, but I haven't seen this problem on a D3 before.

 So, how would you like us to proceed? The prices I gave are list, exclusive of shipping and brokerage. We can order just the sensor and replace this, the oil and filter and run her up in a couple of hours. If the problem is still there then I think she's gonna need to come out. The freight for just one sensor won't be very efficient and unfortunately I don't have much else to order right now- I try to get a list of parts together and spread the freight costs around, but if you are in a hurry, which with a disabled engine and the boat in the water I guess there must be some sense of urgency...

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of amelforme
Sent: 29 April 2020 22:05
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Cc: jfpottercys@...
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure

 

Paul, a bit more information is needed to give you some help.

How many hours are on the engine now?

How many hours are on the oil in the crankcase now?

Did you get maintenance logs at the purchase that showed good habits regarding regular oil changes? What were the months and hour intervals if so?

Did this problem started immediately after a new oil filter and fresh engine oil were installed? Or was it several hours or days later?

Testing with a mechanical/non-electric oil pressure gauge confirmed that what you were reading from the helm mounted instrumentation was correct ?

Did oil pressure increase with higher engine RPM in a linear pattern, not increase at all or very little, or immediately increase by a great deal? This is very important  

 to know.

Does the engine burn more than a liter of oil  in 50 hours of running time?

Did the Volvo dealer immediately suggest engine removal with out any other testing?

 Did anyone suggest that you have a spectrographic engine oil analysis performed ? Do a web search on this. Not expensive and extremely telling about the engines  

internal mechanical condition.

 Slowly decreasing oil pressure is most often an indication of internal engine wear that increases/opens the tolerances/gaps between components like bearings and bearing journals.       

  I will await and respond to your answers but I would strongly suggest changing the engine oil filter and if nothing changes then obtaining a spectrographic engine oil analysis before the engine  is removed. The oil analysis will, for sure, tell you plenty about the engines’ relative health. Much the same as getting your blood work done before a visit to your medical practitioner.

 

All The best, Joel

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Dowd an

d Sharon Brown
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 2:21 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo oil pressure

 

Hi all,

 

I have a Volvo D3-110i-C with low oil pressure. I’m told by the local Volvo dealer that the engine will have to be taken out in order to replace the oil pump. I’m wondering what other factor may cause low oil pressure. Any opinion on this would be most welcome.

 

A bit of history on the problem. I changed the oil and oil filter after 188 engine hours which was 3 years. I then started getting low pressure warning after reducing from 1100rpm to idle. I checked the oil level and topped up to the top of the mark. After a couple of days I started getting low pressure warning whilst running at 1100rpm (to heat water). This was confirmed when the engineer attached a pressure gauge.

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 


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AMEL OLDER MARAMU AFT BERTH CONVERSION

Alejandro Paquin
 

Hello,
Does anyone in this group have an older Maramu with individual bunks in the aft cabin, and have any experience converting these bunks into a larger sized bed? And if yes how was this done?
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Alex Paquin
S/V " SIMPATICO"
Amel Maramu
Hull #94, 1981