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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion
Porter McRoberts
Having neither owned nor sailed a SM, but nevertheless a major Delos fan, I think the 54 berth situation is fantastic. Lee boards are terrific. We just sailed 8 nights and through some rough stuff. The big bed allows for switching angles easily and sleeping crosswise as earlier said. The Lee boards are sturdy and perfectly placed. There also is then a his and hers side to the berth and storage.
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When I wake up I’m just so jazzed to even be on this boat. Porter and Helen S/V Ibis 54-152 Tortola.
On Mar 1, 2018, at 5:20 PM, 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: OLDER MARAMU RUDDER REMOVAL
calbyy@...
hello there did not find the step by step but from memor ... 1.- ensure that your boat ishigh engough on blocks to allow the rudder to be slipped down when released from holdings; see drawings for approximate measurement 200 mm + add height for wooden blocks to rest on & lever to be inserted to slip back in place when finished. 2.- rest rudder on wooden blocks before removings bolt or top part 3.- careful with bronze rod going to BLU ground plate when sanding down gel coat layers; can be repaired by soldering if cut inadvertendly ... 4.- remove bolts & stainless steel holders (crapaudine 4 is the bottom one femelot 3 is the intermediate one; this one gave me the shivers as I thought it locked tight when in fact it is preformed and opens up when bolts are untightened. 5.- bielletes 5 top of rudder Under berth to be opened (remove bolts & nuts); nylon (delrin) screw on stuffing to be removed 6.- support rudder with long lever from bottom, remove wooden blocks & support rudder when coming down slowly. 2 sets of strong arms can do the trlck. 7.- lay it down & whilst on ground check for cracks on resin alongside the StSteel shaft (signs of grounding in the past); Time to repair if found 8.- prepare already stuffing cord to replace old one top of rudder; holding nut can be fastened by hand & will need to be re-tightened after a few hours sailing anyway 9.- rebuilding is reverse action (replace bolts & nuts if needed. Hope this is clear; Nothing to it really, just needs to be tackled when all is prepared good rebuild christian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Le Marin
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Re: Main Sail Furler
Duane Siegfri
Thanks Pat. There's a lot of boats that will be needing that info.
Duane
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Re: Re :[Amel Yacht Owners] OLDER MARAMU RUDDER REMOVAL
calbyy@...
good evening first of all drawings - set attached in .jpg if too heavy will compress or convert to .pdf rgds christian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Le Marin
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Heating
Bill,
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Thanks for that - I’ll take a look. Peter Peter Forbes 00447836 209730
On 1 Mar 2018, at 22:33, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Heating
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Peter, They are speaking of the "Forced Air Ventilation." Look under your companionway steps between the first and second steps. Is there a round black plastic vent? If yes, you have it, if no, more money to install. Good luck. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mar 2, 2018 09:27, "Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Heating
Bill,
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Amel just told me €12,000 and that only if we have “ provision for heating ducts in place.i have no idea whether we have those provisions or not. Sadly I suspect not - so it could be even more. Any thoughts? Peter Peter Forbes 00447836 209730
On 1 Mar 2018, at 20:28, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: OLDER MARAMU RUDDER REMOVAL
smiles bernard
Many thanks Oliver and James
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Alex that sounds like quite a project ! I’ve never seen a re gelcoat job before. My 1985 maramu has been painted above the waterline and is in need of a refurb at some point. I had assumed it’d be a vinyl wrap?? or most likely awlgrip I’d be interested in the process you are using and if you think its significantly more costly than the paint job alternative. Appreciate that the answer depends on how much is done by others vs diy. All the best Miles
On 1 Mar 2018, at 20:02, alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion
Mohammad Shirloo
I
couldn't agree more with Joel. The Aft cabin of the 54 is one of our favorite
areas and has made the time on board a pleasure. We have not yet made any long
distance passages, so I cannot comment on utilizing the aft cabin at sea. As a
couple on board, I've always imagined that we would use the sea berth
anyway.
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099 From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 12:32 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion
Hello Amel Folks. Chantiers Amel made one ( that I know of, maybe more ) Super Maramu with a truly centerline berth by robbing space from the aft deck locker and relocating the watertight bulkhead separating the aft cabin from the aft deck locker further aft. I have seen this modification performed by Amel owners with not quite as good results. This really makes the aft deck locker much less useful and the aft cabin is, ergonomically, less than satisfactory to most people’s tastes. Having been fortunate to own several SM 53”s and an Amel 54, I can tell you that a practical and fully useful centerline aft cabin berth was a big priority in the evolution of these two models. I found the Amel 54 berth to be more comfortable in every circumstance as the lee boards worked well and you could fit a split mattress with a lee cloth as an option to divide the mattress. While not having your partner climb over you to visit the loo eliminated a ‘ target of opportunity’, it also made for less disturbance of your and your partners sleep… The storage space under the Amel 54 berth was truly cavernous and easily accessed due to the twin gas assist struts.
Have fun with your Amel!
Joel Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 954 462 5869 office 954 812 2485 cell
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Main Sail Furler
Patrick McAneny
For some time in heavy air while furling the main , the motor did not seem strong enough. I now believe it may have been that the furler had a bearing that was near seizing . Last fall the main would not roll out , assuming it was the motor , I used a winch handle and the it would not budge , eventually I broke it free and sailed on. At the end of the season I dismantled the gearbox and found the tapered bearing was completely seized. So if you think your furler is a littlle slow/weak , you may want to have a look inside. Duane posted some pics that were helpful . It took me longer to find the seals than the bearings, so I thought I would post the bearing and seal info and sources. Bearings: Source , Motion Industries - Tapered bearing item # 32009xm-90kmi , Bore 45mm, OD. 75mm, Width 20mm , Manufacturer Timken Ball Bearing , item # 9105k Bore 25mm, OD. 47mm, Width 12mm Manufacturer Fafnir Oil Seals : Source , Metric Seals Inc. 45mmX60mmX7mm 25mmX33mm X6mm You will need one each of bearings and seals Pat SM Shenanigans
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion
amelforme
Hello Amel Folks. Chantiers Amel made one ( that I know of, maybe more ) Super Maramu with a truly centerline berth by robbing space from the aft deck locker and relocating the watertight bulkhead separating the aft cabin from the aft deck locker further aft. I have seen this modification performed by Amel owners with not quite as good results. This really makes the aft deck locker much less useful and the aft cabin is, ergonomically, less than satisfactory to most people’s tastes. Having been fortunate to own several SM 53”s and an Amel 54, I can tell you that a practical and fully useful centerline aft cabin berth was a big priority in the evolution of these two models. I found the Amel 54 berth to be more comfortable in every circumstance as the lee boards worked well and you could fit a split mattress with a lee cloth as an option to divide the mattress. While not having your partner climb over you to visit the loo eliminated a ‘ target of opportunity’, it also made for less disturbance of your and your partners sleep… The storage space under the Amel 54 berth was truly cavernous and easily accessed due to the twin gas assist struts.
Have fun with your Amel!
Joel Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY 954 462 5869 office 954 812 2485 cell
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Heating
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Peter, Be careful in comparison of Amels that aren't exactly as your 54. And, it may be best to check with Amel. It would be much more pleasant to sail back to the tropics😀😀😀. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mar 2, 2018 01:32, "Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hydra 2000 internal batteries
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Duane, Did you receive my reply to your direct-to- me email? Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mar 2, 2018 00:56, "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: OLDER MARAMU RUDDER REMOVAL
Thanks James I found it.
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Re: OLDER MARAMU RUDDER REMOVAL
Hello Thanks for all the replies, the reason we are considering removing the rudder blade, is that we are preparing the hull surface and keel, to recoat with new gelcoat. We already did this with the decks, dodger, cockpit and engine room in 2013. The space is so small between the hull and the blade that it is virtually impossible to clean and treat the surface properly. Any thoughts on this matter?
Alex
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] OLDER MARAMU RUDDER REMOVAL
James Alton
Miles, Christian and Alex,
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I see that Oliver Beaute has kindly replied to the question about removing the rudder on an older Maramu. I am not sure why it is not showing in this thread but you can find the response at: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/conversations/messages/38561 . I have added his response to my growing Maramu database. Thank you Oliver. James Alton SV Sueño Maramu #220
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Re: Zeus 3 and Tablet
Duane Siegfri
Craig,
Thanks for the reply. Is there software that needs to be downloaded to run the nav software on the PC/Tablet/etc. ? Duane
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Re: Procuration pour Alban
Sv Garulfo
Hi all, Apologies for incorrect recipient. Thomas
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion
james Hosford
Could i see a picture please
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On Mar 1, 2018, at 6:51 AM, Jean-Pierre's MacBook Air jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Berth conversion
islandpearl2_sm2k332
For what it's worth, we widened our 53's bed in the rear cabin by 11cm, and added 40cm to the L bit rear of the rear cabin desk so that the bed comes across to the main bed in line with the desk end. We can now sleep both ways, ie normal direction and cross ways (which we now actually prefer in a flat water anchorage). We then spent a fair bit on a really comfortable, top of the line, custom inner spring & latex topper mattress which zips into 3 sections in appropriate places so it can be easily removed. I am 6ft3, and often sleep on my stomach, and so simply cannot sleep on the normal 2m max length Amel beds at all, and therefore had to do something. This configuration suits us 100% as we can now (and do often) sleep in any direction depending on the heel of the boat on passages, as well as the direction of night breezes across the rear cabin in hot climates such as here in the Maldives. For fitted & top sheets, the size becomes slightly larger than (what we call in Australia), a "SuperKing" size, so you can still purchase good ready made linen without too much difficulty, and then we have simply sewn the bottom sheets to fit. Probably not to everyone's taste as the rear cabin floor space is reduced (more storage under), however we have done it in a way that it is 100% reversible back to original configuration with no visible marks, but this has truly transformed our sleeping arrangements on Island Pearl II, to become extremely versatile, and we now love our boat bed just as much as the lovely big king bed we have at home. Colin Streeter Amel 53 #332, SV Island Pearl II Currently in a Secret paradise, BAA Atoll, Maldives
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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