Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Permanent 24 to 12 v converter
Paul, Like many things, it is a long story. I will try to accurately tell you the story that someone at Amel told me. The original SM design was was standard with three Thrane & Thrane 24 to 12VDC converters, which all switched OFF with the Main Battery Switches:
Sometime after SM production began some EU owners complained that when they turned OFF the main battery switches, they lost their AM/FM radio station frequency presets. Surprisingly (to me), Mr. Amel changed the design to add a toggle switch on the Permanent to turn it OFF and wired the Permanent directly to the battery bank. This allowed the complainers to keep their AM/FM presets. When you turn OFF the battery main switches, you will still see an amp draw until you turn OFF that toggle switch. All of the above said, neither you nor I know if your boat is still wired the way it was originally, but I hope my explanation helps answer your question. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: Permanent 24 to 12 v converter
Philippe Morel
Hello , on BELAVITA nº 238 , we’ve 3 sailors regulators which provide 24v and 12 v , to cut both 24 & 12 , two circuit break et in the locker
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi. I would not choose to lift that button before a gybe as the car sliding across to a sudden crash stop increases the impact on all involved items including mainsheet boom attachment. I always gybe leaving the traveller in place which makes for a gentle clunk main boom move rather than a almighty whump. I then, in a very controlled manner wind the traveller to the new side. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean pearl
On 30 May 2018 at 06:13 "Ian parkianj@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds
Ian Park
Thanks. I forgot to mention that. It could easily be a broken bone the speed the winch handle would go!
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On 29 May 2018, at 08:27, 'dancarlson367@...' dancarlson367@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: Dome light in aft lazarette needs replacing
Derick Gates
Thanks Joel, that explains it. I will ask Amel.SAV. All the similar ones on-line appear to be 12 Volt, but I think for the Amel 24 volt system I just need to change the bulb to an appropriate 24 Volt LED one.
Re: resale of SM2K#400 some time in the future, are you interested personally, or as a broker? If personally, it would be a fitting full circle. I still have the picture of the Mary Brown and her namesake in the navigation station drawer, and show it to visitors. If as a broker, I currently have no intention of swallowing the anchor, but will leave instructions to my heirs to contact you after "the big one". I hope you have to wait a long, long time. 😎 By the way, in Le Marin in January 2018 I was on the Amel Dock next to Luc, your old friend and Amel sales executive with whom you shared the Mary Brown. He told me, "I know that boat well - when it was first built I was a 1/3 owner." He showed me his own Super Maramu 'S' which he had specially adapted for him, with many good ideas that I liked, including a cockpit adjustable mizzen traveler setup (with no drilling into the cabin top) and a vertical rod to secure the dish drawers next to the love seat for heavy seas (the drawer latch on the bottom just broke on Brava for lack of same). He and his wife are well and continue to sail in retirement. Hope all is well with you. Derick Gates SM2K#400 Brava (AKA Mary Brown; AKA Ulys of Tortola)
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Permanent 24 to 12 v converter
Hi Paul,
On Kristy, there are five 24-12v converters. One of the green Sailors is marked Permanent. It is always connected directly to the battery bank and allows your AM/FM radio to hold it’s “memory” of radio stations. I’ve also wired my 12v charging equipment (cigarette lighter and USB). There are connection points in the wires (+ & -) in the battery compartment with fuses. The two other of the green Sailor converters feed the nav equipment and VHF. They are wired to the onboard of the three breakers in the hanging locker. A fourth converter is for the SSB and is controlled by the middle breaker in the hanging locker. The fifth converter feeds the amplifier for my stereo system and is connected to the outboard of the three breakers in the hanging locker. I don’t have any converters mounted anywhere else. Kent S/V Kristy SM 243
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dome light in aft lazarette needs replacing
amelforme
Hi Derick. When your SM53 #400 was built for me originally, I ordered optional lights for both the cockpit port side locker and the stern locker. Amel had a fairly extensive list of options that we didn’t actively sell but could respond in the positive if someone asked for additions and enhancements. I can’t remember what these extra lights look like so if they are different than the other lights fitted elsewhere, send a photo to Apres Vende and see what they can do for you. When you are finished enjoying Brava, please keep me in mind. Have fun on your Amel! Joel JOEL F. POTTER CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY Office 954-462-5869
On May 28, 2018, at 4:03 PM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds
That sounds like a good idea.
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One build on that recco however, you either want to have removed the winch handle or make sure the area is well clear, as the winch will spin very fast as the traveller moves across. Dan and Lori Carlson, sv BeBe, SM#387
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dome light in aft lazarette needs replacing
amelforme
Hi Derick.
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When your SM53 #400 was built for me originally, I ordered optional lights for both the cockpit port side locker and the stern locker. Amel had a fairly extensive list of options that we didn’t actively sell but could respond in the positive if someone asked for additions and enhancements. I can’t remember what these extra lights look like so if they are different than the other lights fitted elsewhere, send a photo to Apres Vende and see what they can do for you. When you are finished enjoying Brava, please keep me in mind. Have fun on your Amel! Joel JOEL F. POTTER CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY Office 954-462-5869
On May 28, 2018, at 4:03 PM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds
Ian Park
One minor point if you haven’t come across it.
If your main sheet traveller is across when running (I assume we all do that) - if you know you are about to crash gybe, just lift the button on the Anderson winch traveller and put it across to the other side. The boom will take the car with it, but it slows the gybe as the ropes, pulleys and winch partially absorb the shock, and puts less strain on the whole system. Ian Ocean Hobo SN 96 (Antigua)
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Permanent 24 to 12 v converter
Hello! We have three 24 volt converters under the navigation table, market blu, Inmarsat and instrument. The strange thing is if I close the circlet breaker for each of them, I still have 12 volt on the terminals behind the panel just above the nav table that are labeled permanent. Does anyone know where on the SM I can’t find the “permanent” 24 to 12 v volt converter? Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: A54 Sleipner bowthruster uneven brush wear
Sv Garulfo
Hi Bill, I agree the motor is probably fine, as it can run in one direction. I can hear the big Albright double-solenoid motor-reversing contactor click for both starboard and port operation. So joystick is innocent. I think i know what 4 relays you mean (in the plastic junction box) but didn't foresee they played a part in the thrusting operation. I assumed it was only the raising/lowering of the thruster, and that my problem was closer to the Side-Power unit. I measured voltage on the Albright contactor posts in port/starboard/idle operation to see if I can reverse engineer what is supposed to happen to the 4 power cables going into the motor. Need to look at the results with a fresh pair of eyes in the morning. And maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree. Thanks as always, Thomas GARULFO AMEL 54 #122 Bonaire
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: A54 Sleipner bowthruster uneven brush wear
Thomas, It could be the large high amperage electro magnetic switch on the motor...sorry I left that out by mistake Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 8:01 PM, Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: A54 Sleipner bowthruster uneven brush wear
Thomas, It is probably not the motor and is either the joystick or one of the 4 relays. Eliminate the joystick first. It is unlikely that your relays are numbered because out of about 10 54s, I have only seen 1 with numbered relays, but they are all the same relay. If all 54s are wired the same, I think it will be relay #2, but, if you have a spare relay, it is easy enough to replace them one at a time until you find the culprit. Of course the problem can be corrosion between the relay terminals and the female spade connectors. If I owned a 54, I would have 4 spare relays. Good Luck! Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 4:22 PM, 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rig tuning
greatketch@...
Ryan,
Some thoughts. I have never been able to tune a rig accurately “by ear”. I always use a loos tension gauge, or the stretch method with the meter stick. But... that only gets you so far. Taking the boat out sailing in a good breeze is a very important part of the process. Skipping that step, out of economic requirements, is why so many “Professional” riggers come up short in tuning rigs, and not just Amels. Olivier has written an excellent summary on tuning that is here in the archives. The is no reason you can’t slack all the rigging and start as if your mast was newly stepped. If your back stay was too loose, then your forestay must be too, assuming the mast is straight, since they pull in opposition to each other. Bill Kinney Sm160, Harmonie Norfolk, VA, USA
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Re: Wood trim around Vee berth windows
Here I am again, still trying to get the wood trim around the portlights off. I was able to remove the ones in the VeeBerth using a putty knife, hammer, screw drivers, filet knife, and flat pry bar. It’s a difficult job. All the bolts and screws holding the outside metal trim on have to be removed. That’s the easy part. There is a LOT of adhesive holding the wood panel to the cabin side above and below the windows.
Now I’m working in the saloon and after 3 hours have only gotten one panel about 1/4 freed. Anyone have any ideas how to get these panels off? I think the adhesive is silicone sealant. Is there anything that could be dripped down between the wood and the cabin side(it’s adhered to the headliner material) that would soften the silicone? Any other ideas? Thanks, Kent SM 243 Kristy
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler
Sv Garulfo
Robin, Another source of air leak is the seachest screwed cover. It may be mis-threaded, and the engine sucks air in. The seachest does not leak out sea water because the fridge circulation pump is enough to depressurise it... As a tell tale on the 54, the stream of water overflowing out of the engine gooseneck into the cockpit scupper (companionway side) should be continuous once the initial startup coughs have gone. No noticeable exhaust smells from there. Hope that helps Thomas GARULFO AMEL 54 #122 Bonaire
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dome light in aft lazarette needs replacing
Derick, You need to ask the person who installed it after your boat was made.😀 Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 3:03 PM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster Rusted Shut
I am here Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Dennis Johns sbmesasailor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: A54 Sleipner bowthruster uneven brush wear
Sv Garulfo
Hi Scott, Talking of the devil... I haven't looked into the carbon dust and brushes yet, cause I reconnected the thruster for a quick stop in a marina and after the initial 'all-good' tests, it decided to only thrust to port and not starboard.... So I've got a second issue to troubleshoot. If anyone has experienced it and has clues, it's very welcome. I'll check the state of the brushes for uneven wear too, to give you another data point. Note that i don't have an oil reservoir in my unit. Fair winds to all, Thomas GARULFO AMEL 54 #122 Bonaire
On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 05:54, cpp_berkeley <no_reply@...> wrote:
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