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Re: Dishwasher shore power main breaker off #galley

 

The Shore Power Ground Fault Interrupt is much more sensitive than the GFI main breaker on your SM. And the dishwasher will heat water until it gets hot enough to open small cracks in the heating element that will be present in any heating element this age.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 11:01 AM Slavko D. <slavko@...> wrote:
Thank you for reply. But heater is heating when running 220V from generator.

regards,

slavko


Re: Rub Rail insert

Rob Hughes
 

I am interested in getting new rub rails as well. Have a couple of questions... 
Gary Silver said " When you install it you want to make sure that it is installed in compression because it does shrink a bit".  How do you do that?
Also he said it may shrink and I see you are ordering 104 feet. Should we order a little bigger to offset any shrinkage or have you included that in your size estimate (please don't take any offense, I haven't measured the rubrail personally). I have SM328 

Thank you


Re: Dishwasher shore power main breaker off #galley

Slavko D.
 

Thank you for reply. But heater is heating when running 220V from generator.

regards,

slavko


Re: Masse negative leak

ngtnewington Newington
 

Thanks everyone for your advice. I am anchored of Mikanos and it is cranking up to 40kn. My spade anchor is holding but I am reluctant to start taking cables off the battery switch. However I have made a thick plastic insulator cover that I have taped over the positive cables terminals to the red handle switch. So I can now work safely in the compartment.
We plan to sail for Patmos tomorrow where the Meltemi tends to blow with less ferocity.
I shall track it all down and post the results, but I have a feeling it will take time unless I get lucky.
Nick
S/Y Amelia
AML54-019 Greece

On 25 Jul 2020, at 17:07, Lior Keydar <lior246@...> wrote:

Dear Nick 

I had also electrical leak that came from the bow thruster. It came, like Thomas wrote, from the carbon dust. I opened the cover of the bow thruster, cleaned it with a small clean painting brush and it solved the problem. 

Best
Lior A54 #18


Re: Dishwasher shore power main breaker off #galley

 

This is a very common issue. The water heating element needs replacing and as far as I know, there are none available. Another owner stated he was going to have one made in Hong Kong where his SM is located. Possibly he will answer this.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 9:01 AM Slavko Despotovi <slavko@...> wrote:
Hello,

last time when connected to shore power I have used dishwasher and after one minute all the power went off. Including the shore power unit. This did not happened when running air conditioning or washing machine. Interesting enough I have turned on generator put the power on and dishwasher was running without interruption. Power was on all the time. Next time I tried again and shore power went off, again generator ok. Before going in to deep investigation is there any idea on the forum what might be the issue? Grounding is one that comes to my mind

than you.. 
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279


Re: Rub rail purchase

James Watkins
 

So far have only sent sketch Jim Watkinsand pictures.  I will send die drawing when finished,   

Jim Watkins\
Act II  Maramu 185 



On Saturday, July 25, 2020, 03:16:07 PM GMT+2, svcharisma via groups.io <svcharisma@...> wrote:


Jim,
that would be great if you could post a picture or sketch of the die when it is done.  Did you send them a section of rub rail for them to match?

s/v Charisma
Alan
Mango #62


Re: Masse negative leak

Lior Keydar
 

Dear Nick 

I had also electrical leak that came from the bow thruster. It came, like Thomas wrote, from the carbon dust. I opened the cover of the bow thruster, cleaned it with a small clean painting brush and it solved the problem. 

Best
Lior A54 #18


Dishwasher shore power main breaker off #galley

Slavko D.
 

Hello,

last time when connected to shore power I have used dishwasher and after one minute all the power went off. Including the shore power unit. This did not happened when running air conditioning or washing machine. Interesting enough I have turned on generator put the power on and dishwasher was running without interruption. Power was on all the time. Next time I tried again and shore power went off, again generator ok. Before going in to deep investigation is there any idea on the forum what might be the issue? Grounding is one that comes to my mind

than you.. 
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279


Re: Rub rail purchase

svcharisma
 

Jim,
that would be great if you could post a picture or sketch of the die when it is done.  Did you send them a section of rub rail for them to match?

s/v Charisma
Alan
Mango #62


Re: A54: Cable length between main mast head and chart table

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Thomas and Soraya,

Do you know the distance between the mast head and the connection point just above the door to the guest room?

Regards,
Arno Luijten


Re: Rub rail purchase

amelforme
 

In 1986, the Sharki, Maramu and Mango all shared the same rub rail. I believe they did throughout the entire production. I sold my first Amel in 1981 and am not sure of the years previous to that.

 

 

All the best,

Joel

 

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                                         The Experienced AMEL Guy

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                  Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of James Watkins via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 3:07 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub rail purchase

 

I am not sure exactly on the various rub rails but they are for sure different.  The information I have is that the Maramu and Sharki are the same.  If you wush I will send you a drawing of the die when it is done.

You might ask Joel Porter he may know.

 

Jim Watkins

Act II Maramu hull 185

 

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From: svcharisma via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 12:50 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub rail purchase

 

Jim,

I'm curious if your Maramu rub rail might be similar to our Mango hull #62, built in 1986.  What did you send them to confirm the profile?  Are you able to post a picture of your rub rail profile?

 

Alan

s/v Charisma

Mango #62

 


Re: Rub rail purchase

James Watkins
 

I am not sure exactly on the various rub rails but they are for sure different.  The information I have is that the Maramu and Sharki are the same.  If you wush I will send you a drawing of the die when it is done.

You might ask Joel Porter he may know.

 

Jim Watkins

Act II Maramu hull 185

 

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From: svcharisma via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2020 12:50 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub rail purchase

 

Jim,

I'm curious if your Maramu rub rail might be similar to our Mango hull #62, built in 1986.  What did you send them to confirm the profile?  Are you able to post a picture of your rub rail profile?

 

Alan

s/v Charisma

Mango #62

 


Re: Dive Compressor on a SM

Porter McRoberts
 

I was at Compressed Air Incorporated last week picking up some filters. 
Shooting the breeze with the owner he offered he routinely sees 20+ year old Bauers working fine. 
Porter 
A54-152



On Jul 24, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Giorgio Ardrizzi <giorgio.ardrizzi@...> wrote:


Coltri works well, but the materials used are of less quality than Bauer. Obviously the cost is different.
My Bauer, built in 1984, looks like new.

Giorgio Ardrizzi
sy Saudade III - Sharki #1
Fort de France - Martinica


Re: Dive Compressor on a SM

Giorgio Ardrizzi
 

Coltri works well, but the materials used are of less quality than Bauer. Obviously the cost is different.
My Bauer, built in 1984, looks like new.

Giorgio Ardrizzi
sy Saudade III - Sharki #1
Fort de France - Martinica


Re: A54: Cable length between main mast head and chart table

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi all,

We have now installed the new antenna and vhf rg-8x cable from Glomex. 

We bought the 30m of pre-crimped cable and it turns out 25m would work too, as we measured the minimum length with reasonable slack and bends to be 24.5m. 


Best,

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Tahiti 

On 10 Feb 2020, at 07:16, S/V Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know the precise length of cable required to go from the top of the main mast to the chart table through the standard conduit on the Amel 54? For instance for the VHF antenna cable.

I’m considering using an pre-crimped FME-terminated RG-8x VHF cable and I need to select the correct length.

A contact at Pochon said « probably » 25m and a trusted owner said maybe 28m.


Thanks
Thomas
GARULFO
A54-122
Nuku Hiva, French Polynesia



Re: Rub rail purchase

svcharisma
 

Jim,
I'm curious if your Maramu rub rail might be similar to our Mango hull #62, built in 1986.  What did you send them to confirm the profile?  Are you able to post a picture of your rub rail profile?

Alan
s/v Charisma
Mango #62


Re: Dive Compressor on a SM

Sv Garulfo
 

Any insight on bauer vs. Coltri?

Thanks
Soraya
Garulfo A154-122
Tahiti, French Polynesia


Re: Masse negative leak

Sv Garulfo
 

Nick,

Remember that there may be more than one source for the leak. In that unfortunate case, you would not find the leak by disconnecting a faulty circuit since another faulty circuit will still show the leak in the tester. 
The laborious but absolute process is to disconnect all but one circuit to validate that circuit is ok. Until you find one that is faulty. Fix the issue and move to the next one. Until you’ve done them all. It can be a lot of work. 
It makes sense to start from the battery bank (the tree root) and find the faulty branch(es) up to the faulty equipment(s). 

To make things easier, you can build a portable tester with an Led bulb and 2 wires long enough to connect to the bonding system (closest available spot to the connection you are working on, could be the rigging/rail depending on your 54 hull number) and the battery positive (when searching for a negative leak). That battery positive would be very close to where you’re working since you’re only disconnecting negative cables. That way you can test directly the existence of the leak. 
The led bulb will also be more sensitive to the strength of the leak than the built in tester. 

When we went through that exercise on Garulfo, we found 2 leaks in the forward locker: navigation lights; the negative wire was chafed and allowed a connection to the handrail tube it went through, and bow thruster; probably some carbon dust as the leak was weak and intermittent. 

Hope that will help, 

Good luck,

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Tahiti 



On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 08:02, Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL via groups.io <sv_sangaris=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Nick,
Bill's comment that these problems can be elusive and your saying it is a straight run in a conduit reminded me of a problem in SM Miss Lindy years ago. They had had near-fire meltdowns of all the major wires in the engine room (looked like Dali's clocks dripping). Three times over just a few months!

Each time they had "professional marine electricians" replace all the damaged wires. After rewire #3 in Cartagena, we happened to be leaving the same day and they had meltdown #4. We got them to anchor near us in the San Blas and I spent 3 days cobbling their system back together. I finished, but noticed a slight potential between the start negative and the engine block. Scratching my head and thinking I was wasting my time, I disconnected the battery wires and pulled them out of the conduit a few feet. Sure enough, there was a slight chafe-through in the insulation that under the right conditions underway would allow a dead short.

Obviously just a shot in the dark and unlikely to be the cause, but maybe worth pulling and inspecting the wires in the conduit.

Good luck with it,
Craig


Re: Masse negative leak

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL <sv_sangaris@...>
 

Hi Nick,
Bill's comment that these problems can be elusive and your saying it is a straight run in a conduit reminded me of a problem in SM Miss Lindy years ago. They had had near-fire meltdowns of all the major wires in the engine room (looked like Dali's clocks dripping). Three times over just a few months!

Each time they had "professional marine electricians" replace all the damaged wires. After rewire #3 in Cartagena, we happened to be leaving the same day and they had meltdown #4. We got them to anchor near us in the San Blas and I spent 3 days cobbling their system back together. I finished, but noticed a slight potential between the start negative and the engine block. Scratching my head and thinking I was wasting my time, I disconnected the battery wires and pulled them out of the conduit a few feet. Sure enough, there was a slight chafe-through in the insulation that under the right conditions underway would allow a dead short.

Obviously just a shot in the dark and unlikely to be the cause, but maybe worth pulling and inspecting the wires in the conduit.

Good luck with it,
Craig


Re: For Sale: S/V Adagio, SM 209 ... www.svadagio.us

Mark Garver
 

Gary,

I am so happy that Jennifer and I got to meet you last week on the Chesapeake and see your great boat. I hope the pork chops were good! :)

There is a couple who are friends of our slip mates over in Gloucester Point that are in the market, we showed them our SM after we returned from the trip, not sure their budget but I will let them know. 

Wishing you the best!

Mark and Jennifer Garver
S/V It’s Good
Amel SM #105
Glouster Point, VA

On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Gary Wells <gary@...> wrote:

Hi folks,

Well, after several months of planning and discussions Robin and I have decided to offer Adagio for sale. 

I put a notice in the "For Sale" sub group and have cobbled together a web site for more information about the Yacht.

This is a mixed-emotions day, actually posting her as for sale, but it is where we see us going in the future that drives this decision (that, and a couple of grandkids :)

The challenges will likely be two fold: we are still planning to stay and live aboard full time and we are planning to continue our sailing agenda for the upcoming year.  So, we will need to plan ahead a bit when making arrangements to come see her.

Robin and I are happy to be moving forward to our next chapter but a bit melancholy about closing this one. Our best hope is that Adagio will find new owners ready to pursue their own dream of traveling the seas and who will get as much pleasure from her as we have.

More info at www.svadagio.us

 

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Cape Charles, VA, USA        

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