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HP Sensor for Dessalator DUO 60

David Vogel
 

Greetings,

Does anyone know of an off-brand but compatible replacement for the Dessalator OEM High-Pressure Sensor (OEM p/n either 102087 or 100027 – I am still ascertaining which is the one applicable to the 24/220 volt DUO 60 unit). This is a “Normally OPEN (“NO”) switch that in my case unexpectedly failed CLOSED; the problem has in the interim been resolved by simply removing the wires, but which then requires careful monitoring to ensure not over-pressuring the membranes.

Thanks in advance,

David
Perigee, SM#396
Tahuata, French Polynesia

Re: Rub Rail insert

Arnold Mente
 

The best place I know to eat "Fruit de Meer"

😎
Arnold
SV Zephyr
SM 203

Am 24.02.2020 um 22:18 schrieb Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>:

Fly over Pat, La Rochelle is a great city to visit, even aside from Amel. We stayed in an Air BnB in the old part of town. Just make sure the parts are in stock before you go.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 25 February 2020 at 09:50 "Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Gary, I was afraid of that,I had read a previous post of yours ,but thought (hoped) that the $2,600.00 included installation and additional shipping to Puerto Rico. Its amazing to me that shipping would be that expensive. It might be cheaper to fly over with a couple of empty suitcases ,I'm not sure, I'm kidding,always wanted to see La Rochelle . The inserts cost about $850. ,so shipping and duty was approx. $1,700.00.,nuts ! Would you have a guesstimate of what each piece weight was ?
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2020 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub Rail insert

Hi Pat:

I had the two pieces of rub-rail insert (I call them scupper) shipped from Amel for my hurricane repairs in Puerto Rico in Dec 2017 from Amel.  Price was $2,686 with shipping.  They were about 5 feet too long for each side but better long than short. They came as Bill indicated, on a wooden pallet (sort of a miniature pallet) about 2 to 2.5 ft square wrapped in shrink wrap. They were heavy.    So indeed, the shipping is the greater part of the cost.  About $1,000.  It was covered in my insurance  settlement.  I had been considering replacing mine when Irma/Maria intervened and gave me a bonus in that small way, (didn't make up for the lost year of sailing while repairs were made. The new scupper looks so nice I would consider pressing ahead despite the cost.  When you install it you want to make sure that it is installed in compression because it does shrink a bit.  It is easier to install when in tension but to better fill and assure it doesn't leave a gap insist on putting it in compression.  I also left it a foot too long at the stern and at the 6 month mark I made a final trimming to avoid having a gap due to shrinkage.

All the best, 
Gary S. Silver, M.D.
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 Hull #335
Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico

Arnold Mente

Urbaniweg 12
7000 Eisenstadt 

Tel: +43 660 6699019

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--
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SY Zephyr SM203

Re: Rub Rail insert

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Fly over Pat, La Rochelle is a great city to visit, even aside from Amel. We stayed in an Air BnB in the old part of town. Just make sure the parts are in stock before you go.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 25 February 2020 at 09:50 "Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io" <sailw32@...> wrote:

Gary, I was afraid of that,I had read a previous post of yours ,but thought (hoped) that the $2,600.00 included installation and additional shipping to Puerto Rico. Its amazing to me that shipping would be that expensive. It might be cheaper to fly over with a couple of empty suitcases ,I'm not sure, I'm kidding,always wanted to see La Rochelle . The inserts cost about $850. ,so shipping and duty was approx. $1,700.00.,nuts ! Would you have a guesstimate of what each piece weight was ?
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2020 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub Rail insert

Hi Pat:

I had the two pieces of rub-rail insert (I call them scupper) shipped from Amel for my hurricane repairs in Puerto Rico in Dec 2017 from Amel.  Price was $2,686 with shipping.  They were about 5 feet too long for each side but better long than short. They came as Bill indicated, on a wooden pallet (sort of a miniature pallet) about 2 to 2.5 ft square wrapped in shrink wrap. They were heavy.    So indeed, the shipping is the greater part of the cost.  About $1,000.  It was covered in my insurance  settlement.  I had been considering replacing mine when Irma/Maria intervened and gave me a bonus in that small way, (didn't make up for the lost year of sailing while repairs were made. The new scupper looks so nice I would consider pressing ahead despite the cost.  When you install it you want to make sure that it is installed in compression because it does shrink a bit.  It is easier to install when in tension but to better fill and assure it doesn't leave a gap insist on putting it in compression.  I also left it a foot too long at the stern and at the 6 month mark I made a final trimming to avoid having a gap due to shrinkage.

All the best, 
Gary S. Silver, M.D.
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 Hull #335
Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico

Re: SM2000 - Have you replaced your dishwasher by a fridge/freezer? #galley

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Thanks Bill, I should have thought to go through the Photos treasure trove! 

Would be interested in schematics or materials used if anyone has any (and of course Eric).  

Guillaume

s/v Carpathia III – SM2K #293

Re: SM2000 - Have you replaced your dishwasher by a fridge/freezer? #galley

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Dominique,

A PO put a top opening fridge in the space. Excellent.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 24 February 2020 at 17:19 Dominique Guenot <dom.guenot@...> wrote:

We are not using our dishwasher which is just taking space.

Have you replaced your dishwasher by a fridge/freezer?  or something else? 

Any experience greatly appreciated 

Thanks  
Dominique Guenot 
sv Viva #374
Papeete, French Polynesia  

Re: Headsets #solution

Matt Salatino
 

We’ve used a couple of brands.
Currently using the Sena Expands...a bit more robust, as the microphone boom is much shorter and doesn’t get in the way as much.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Feb 24, 2020, at 3:56 PM, David Vogel <david.vogel@...> wrote:

Greetings all,

PERIGEE has used 2x Sena SPH10 for 3 years docking/anchoring and mast-work, all OK with the exception that the microphone occasionally disconnects, which CorrosionX sorts out.  We have used in ‘all weathers’, with no adverse effects noticeable thus far, but did take the precaution at 2-1/2 years to get another two headsets, for 3-crew work, and/or to provide redundancy in the eventual event that one (or more) units will fail in service (not just due to exposure to the elements, but batteries seem to be a point-of-failure in tropical environments; having needed to source two new hand-held VHFs recently highlighting this vulnerability in practical terms).

We consider the cost minor in the scheme of things, in order to have reliable and calm communications between helm and deck/masthead-crew.

We have not had any connection problems, although multi-headset set-ups (we have had up to four at once) does require a review of the user’s manual to make sure it works ‘as advertised’.  We recommend the Sena SPH10, and have not seen a viable alternative, but remain interested if someone does find one.

David
Perigee, SM#396
Tahuata, French Polynesia


From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...>
Reply-To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, 24 February 2020 at 7:49 am
To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Headsets #solution

Hi Amelians,
I want to replace some worn-out headsets we've used for anchoring and masthead work.  They were about $80 US 5 years ago and have been less than ideal since they were new, with static and cheap construction.  I've been looking online and the ones most cited on cruisers  forums are the Sena SPH10 or Sena Extreme Bluetooth sets.  They get great reviews for audio quality, but very poor reviews for warranty/after-market service/and user friendliness for getting them to connect. At $150 per headset, I'm reluctant to buy something that may not be what is advertised to be.

Does anyone have another  brand to recommend?  Experience with the Sena products?

Thanks for any help.
Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243







Re: Rub Rail insert

Patrick McAneny
 

Gary, I was afraid of that,I had read a previous post of yours ,but thought (hoped) that the $2,600.00 included installation and additional shipping to Puerto Rico. Its amazing to me that shipping would be that expensive. It might be cheaper to fly over with a couple of empty suitcases ,I'm not sure, I'm kidding,always wanted to see La Rochelle . The inserts cost about $850. ,so shipping and duty was approx. $1,700.00.,nuts ! Would you have a guesstimate of what each piece weight was ?
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2020 3:31 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub Rail insert

Hi Pat:

I had the two pieces of rub-rail insert (I call them scupper) shipped from Amel for my hurricane repairs in Puerto Rico in Dec 2017 from Amel.  Price was $2,686 with shipping.  They were about 5 feet too long for each side but better long than short. They came as Bill indicated, on a wooden pallet (sort of a miniature pallet) about 2 to 2.5 ft square wrapped in shrink wrap. They were heavy.    So indeed, the shipping is the greater part of the cost.  About $1,000.  It was covered in my insurance  settlement.  I had been considering replacing mine when Irma/Maria intervened and gave me a bonus in that small way, (didn't make up for the lost year of sailing while repairs were made. The new scupper looks so nice I would consider pressing ahead despite the cost.  When you install it you want to make sure that it is installed in compression because it does shrink a bit.  It is easier to install when in tension but to better fill and assure it doesn't leave a gap insist on putting it in compression.  I also left it a foot too long at the stern and at the 6 month mark I made a final trimming to avoid having a gap due to shrinkage.

All the best, 
Gary S. Silver, M.D.
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 Hull #335
Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico

Re: Rub Rail insert

Gary Silver
 
Edited

Hi Pat:

I had the two pieces of rub-rail insert (I call them scupper) shipped from Amel for my hurricane repairs in Puerto Rico in Dec 2017.  Price was $2,686 with shipping.  They were about 5 feet too long for each side but better long than short. They came as Bill indicated, on a wooden pallet (sort of a miniature pallet) about 2 to 2.5 ft square wrapped in shrink wrap. They were heavy.    So indeed, the shipping is the greater part of the cost.  About $1,800.  It was covered in my insurance  settlement.  I had been considering replacing mine when Irma/Maria intervened and gave me a bonus in that small way, (didn't make up for the lost year of sailing while repairs were made. The new scupper looks so nice I would consider pressing ahead despite the cost.  When you install it you want to make sure that it is installed in compression because it does shrink a bit.  It is easier to install when in tension but to better fill and assure it doesn't leave a gap insist on putting it in compression.  I also left it a foot too long at the stern and at the 6 month mark I made a final trimming to avoid having a gap due to shrinkage.

All the best, 
Gary S. Silver, M.D.
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 Hull #335
Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico

Re: Headsets #solution

David Vogel
 

Greetings all,

PERIGEE has used 2x Sena SPH10 for 3 years docking/anchoring and mast-work, all OK with the exception that the microphone occasionally disconnects, which CorrosionX sorts out. We have used in ‘all weathers’, with no adverse effects noticeable thus far, but did take the precaution at 2-1/2 years to get another two headsets, for 3-crew work, and/or to provide redundancy in the eventual event that one (or more) units will fail in service (not just due to exposure to the elements, but batteries seem to be a point-of-failure in tropical environments; having needed to source two new hand-held VHFs recently highlighting this vulnerability in practical terms).

We consider the cost minor in the scheme of things, in order to have reliable and calm communications between helm and deck/masthead-crew.

We have not had any connection problems, although multi-headset set-ups (we have had up to four at once) does require a review of the user’s manual to make sure it works ‘as advertised’. We recommend the Sena SPH10, and have not seen a viable alternative, but remain interested if someone does find one.

David
Perigee, SM#396
Tahuata, French Polynesia


From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Reply-To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, 24 February 2020 at 7:49 am
To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Headsets #solution

Hi Amelians,
I want to replace some worn-out headsets we've used for anchoring and masthead work.  They were about $80 US 5 years ago and have been less than ideal since they were new, with static and cheap construction.  I've been looking online and the ones most cited on cruisers  forums are the Sena SPH10 or Sena Extreme Bluetooth sets.  They get great reviews for audio quality, but very poor reviews for warranty/after-market service/and user friendliness for getting them to connect. At $150 per headset, I'm reluctant to buy something that may not be what is advertised to be.

Does anyone have another  brand to recommend?  Experience with the Sena products?

Thanks for any help.
Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243

Re: Rub Rail insert

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill , I saw a picture of two inserts coiled on a pallet,they looked at least 24" or more. I would like to order them ,but not knowing the delivered cost ,I am reluctant. Based on 175 lbs. with the pallet ,we are coming up with $2000,00 shipping from the Fed Ex site.,which is far  more than twice the cost of the inserts ,about $850. I am hoping someone has shipped them here and knows what their total cost was.
Thanks,
Pat
SM #123


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2020 10:10 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub Rail insert

Pat,

I saw the rub rail "rubbery" insert like your vintage SM... when it arrived from France for another boat, it was coiled in a circle of about 2' diameter
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 7:03 AM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I contacted Maud about buying a new rub rail insert ,she cannot provide an estimate for shipping. We are thinking it may be much more than we first estimated. Has anyone had the inserts shipped to the US., and tell us what the shipping cost were. The inserts are less than $900. I fear the shipping could be more than that.
Thank You,
Pat
SM Shenanigans

Re: Spade 180 on a 54

Peter Tiner
 

Haldun

Thanks a lot for your answers. I think this, after a lot of research, settles it for me, so it will be the Spade X180 besides the demoted Wasi 42Kg. 

Again thanks and best regards

\Peter SY Maiken #52

Re: Spade 180 on a 54

Courtney Gorman
 

Thanks I appreciate the information


-----Original Message-----
From: Halidun Karagoz via Groups.Io <halidunk@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2020 1:20 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Hi Courtney,
It was a fellow 54 owner, Jerome, the former owner of No Stress, who pointed at my Wasi and said: that Wasi is a joke, replace it with a Spade 55kg ASAP,  and thank me later. That's exactly what i did, and i am grateful for the advice ever since. Spade worked very well for me in almost all conditions throughout the years.
Cheers
Haldun
sv Amanin A54#164

-------- Orijinal mesaj --------
Kimden: "Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io" <Itsfun1@...>
Tarih: 24.02.2020 20:07 (GMT+03:00)
Alıcı: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Konu: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Haldun could you comment about how the spade does in tougher anchoring situations?  Poor bottom, deep, ect
thanks
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101 


-----Original Message-----
From: Halidun Karagoz via Groups.Io <halidunk@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2020 10:46 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Peter,
It is the 55kg Spade on the picture, it fits perfectly when snug. Wasi is demoted as the second anchor. Sorry, i'm away and i can not attach any photos now.  Windlass is strong enough to handle 55 kgs. No problems so far for about 10 years.
Cheers
Haldun 
svAmanin A54#164
Gokova

-------- Orijinal mesaj --------
Kimden: Peter Tiner <peter.tiner@...>
Tarih: 24.02.2020 16:39 (GMT+03:00)
Alıcı: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Konu: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Hi Haldun

Thanks for a quick answer. Sorry i misspelled your name.

Some questions which you hopefully could easily  answer:
  1. Do you think its the 55kg which is on the picture?
  2. Did you have a second anchor next to the Spade 55Kg? if so which?
  3. Did you have any problems with fitting it to the bow? Any specials?
  4. When winching it up and back into its fitting, any problems?
Best regards

\Peter SY Maiken A54 #52

Re: Spade 180 on a 54

Halidun Karagoz
 

Hi Courtney,
It was a fellow 54 owner, Jerome, the former owner of No Stress, who pointed at my Wasi and said: that Wasi is a joke, replace it with a Spade 55kg ASAP,  and thank me later. That's exactly what i did, and i am grateful for the advice ever since. Spade worked very well for me in almost all conditions throughout the years.
Cheers
Haldun
sv Amanin A54#164

-------- Orijinal mesaj --------
Kimden: "Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io" <Itsfun1@...>
Tarih: 24.02.2020 20:07 (GMT+03:00)
Alıcı: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Konu: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Haldun could you comment about how the spade does in tougher anchoring situations?  Poor bottom, deep, ect
thanks
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101 


-----Original Message-----
From: Halidun Karagoz via Groups.Io <halidunk@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2020 10:46 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Peter,
It is the 55kg Spade on the picture, it fits perfectly when snug. Wasi is demoted as the second anchor. Sorry, i'm away and i can not attach any photos now.  Windlass is strong enough to handle 55 kgs. No problems so far for about 10 years.
Cheers
Haldun 
svAmanin A54#164
Gokova

-------- Orijinal mesaj --------
Kimden: Peter Tiner <peter.tiner@...>
Tarih: 24.02.2020 16:39 (GMT+03:00)
Alıcı: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Konu: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Hi Haldun

Thanks for a quick answer. Sorry i misspelled your name.

Some questions which you hopefully could easily  answer:
  1. Do you think its the 55kg which is on the picture?
  2. Did you have a second anchor next to the Spade 55Kg? if so which?
  3. Did you have any problems with fitting it to the bow? Any specials?
  4. When winching it up and back into its fitting, any problems?
Best regards

\Peter SY Maiken A54 #52

Headsets #solution

karkauai
 

Hi Amelians,
I want to replace some worn-out headsets we've used for anchoring and masthead work.  They were about $80 US 5 years ago and have been less than ideal since they were new, with static and cheap construction.  I've been looking online and the ones most cited on cruisers  forums are the Sena SPH10 or Sena Extreme Bluetooth sets.  They get great reviews for audio quality, but very poor reviews for warranty/after-market service/and user friendliness for getting them to connect. At $150 per headset, I'm reluctant to buy something that may not be what is advertised to be.

Does anyone have another  brand to recommend?  Experience with the Sena products?

Thanks for any help.
Kent and Iris
Kristy
SM243

Re: Spade 180 on a 54

Courtney Gorman
 

Haldun could you comment about how the spade does in tougher anchoring situations?  Poor bottom, deep, ect
thanks
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101 


-----Original Message-----
From: Halidun Karagoz via Groups.Io <halidunk@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Feb 24, 2020 10:46 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Peter,
It is the 55kg Spade on the picture, it fits perfectly when snug. Wasi is demoted as the second anchor. Sorry, i'm away and i can not attach any photos now.  Windlass is strong enough to handle 55 kgs. No problems so far for about 10 years.
Cheers
Haldun 
svAmanin A54#164
Gokova

-------- Orijinal mesaj --------
Kimden: Peter Tiner <peter.tiner@...>
Tarih: 24.02.2020 16:39 (GMT+03:00)
Alıcı: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Konu: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Hi Haldun

Thanks for a quick answer. Sorry i misspelled your name.

Some questions which you hopefully could easily  answer:
  1. Do you think its the 55kg which is on the picture?
  2. Did you have a second anchor next to the Spade 55Kg? if so which?
  3. Did you have any problems with fitting it to the bow? Any specials?
  4. When winching it up and back into its fitting, any problems?
Best regards

\Peter SY Maiken A54 #52

Re: SM2000 - Have you replaced your dishwasher by a fridge/freezer? #galley

 

Guillaume,

Eric SM Kimberlite also did this and posted some photos: Search under photos for "dishwasher"

Here are a few photos:
image.png
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:25 AM Cathy & Guillaume via Groups.Io <carpathia3=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Dear Paul, this is something I have been thinking of doing... Would you have any schematics / pictures /  list of items you could share? Many thanks,

Guillaume
Carpathia III - SM2K #293
Malta

Re: Spade 180 on a 54

Halidun Karagoz
 

Peter,
It is the 55kg Spade on the picture, it fits perfectly when snug. Wasi is demoted as the second anchor. Sorry, i'm away and i can not attach any photos now.  Windlass is strong enough to handle 55 kgs. No problems so far for about 10 years.
Cheers
Haldun 
svAmanin A54#164
Gokova

-------- Orijinal mesaj --------
Kimden: Peter Tiner <peter.tiner@...>
Tarih: 24.02.2020 16:39 (GMT+03:00)
Alıcı: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Konu: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Hi Haldun

Thanks for a quick answer. Sorry i misspelled your name.

Some questions which you hopefully could easily  answer:
  1. Do you think its the 55kg which is on the picture?
  2. Did you have a second anchor next to the Spade 55Kg? if so which?
  3. Did you have any problems with fitting it to the bow? Any specials?
  4. When winching it up and back into its fitting, any problems?
Best regards

\Peter SY Maiken A54 #52

Re: SM2000 - Have you replaced your dishwasher by a fridge/freezer? #galley

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Dear Paul, this is something I have been thinking of doing... Would you have any schematics / pictures /  list of items you could share? Many thanks,

Guillaume
Carpathia III - SM2K #293
Malta

Re: Rub Rail insert

 

Pat,

I saw the rub rail "rubbery" insert like your vintage SM... when it arrived from France for another boat, it was coiled in a circle of about 2' diameter
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar
cloudHQPowered by
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 7:03 AM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I contacted Maud about buying a new rub rail insert ,she cannot provide an estimate for shipping. We are thinking it may be much more than we first estimated. Has anyone had the inserts shipped to the US., and tell us what the shipping cost were. The inserts are less than $900. I fear the shipping could be more than that.
Thank You,
Pat
SM Shenanigans

Re: A55: fresh water pump system

 

IMPORTANT- Read this first
You earlier said that the "fresh water pump runs continuously unless turned off." It may be running because it is not achieving the correct pressure, adjusting the pressure switch might correct the continued running, but it will not correct the correct pressure. I originally assumed that you either have an open leak, a closed leak. The closed leak would be water passing back through the one-way valve. However, if fresh water is not leaking into or out of the boat, it is most likely a suction leak that is causing the pump to malfunction. the suction side of the pump MUST be sealed. You cannot see a suction leak. Find the copper tube from the water tank and check it and the hose attached...check carefully all connections up to and including the fitting at the pump.

To answer your questions:
A defective solenoid rinse valve on the water maker - Check by removing the output hose from the valve to see water flow.
Defective or out of adjustment Pressure Switch - Google SQUARE D PRESSURE SWITCH adjust. Don't try to adjust this unless experienced...AND...your symptoms do not indicate a need.
The pressure was showing at 1.6 bar this morning whereas we understand that we require 1.8 / 2 bar.  1.6 bar is a little low, but not low enough to try to adjust the pressure switch unless you have read all of the material published and you are sure that you understand.



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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:45 AM Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...> wrote:

 

 

Yes, the lack of flow is caused by a lack of sufficient pressure. In my experience, the lack of pressure can be caused by:

  1. An open tap 

No

  1. A break in the freshwater circuit

No

  1. A defective solenoid rinse valve on the water maker

Don’t believe so, how to check

  1. Defective solenoid flush valves on any toilet

No

  1. Defective anchor wash valve on the anchor wash (freshwater option)

No

  1. A defective impeller in the freshwater pump. (this pump has a metal impeller)

Recently checked by Amel Caraibe and found to be good

  1. A broken key securing the impeller to the shaft

Above

  1. A defective one-way valve 

We have looked at this and it appears to be functioning as it should, it closes when you suck / blow

  1. Debris in the one-way valve

As above

  1. Defective or out of adjustment Pressure Switch

How to check

1 - 5 will result in a loss of freshwater.

It doesn’t look like these

6 & 7 will probably result in zero pressure and no loss of freshwater

Or these

8 & 9 can result in no pressure to partial pressure with no loss of freshwater

The aluminium sleeve / raising piece that connected the fresh water tank guage to the tank disintegrated Amel Caraibe replaced this with a plastic piece. We have done our best to remove the debris but it is possible that there was some remaining.

10 will probably not be your issue because you said the pump is running constantly with insufficient pressure

How is that adjusted please. The pressure was showing at 1.6 bar this morning whereas we understand that we require 1.8 / 2 bar.

 

Stuart, the reason I did not go into detail in my first response is that you did not mention any loss of freshwater. The accumulator tank allows your freshwater pump to cycle less and have longer non-running periods. The tank allows for the accumulation of water pressure because of an expandable internal bladder which is supported by air pressure on one side. If/when the internal bladder fails or air pressure supporting the bladder reduces, the pump will cycle more often.

Really appreciated Bill, we still need to find a cycle pump and try to pump the bladder up

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 23 February 2020 12:00
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A55: fresh water pump system

 

Yes, the lack of flow is caused by a lack of sufficient pressure. In my experience, the lack of pressure can be caused by:

  1. An open tap
  2. A break in the freshwater circuit
  3. A defective solenoid rinse valve on the water maker
  4. Defective solenoid flush valves on any toilet
  5. Defective anchor wash valve on the anchor wash (freshwater option)
  6. A defective impeller in the freshwater pump. (this pump has a metal impeller)
  7. A broken key securing the impeller to the shaft
  8. A defective one-way valve 
  9. Debris in the one-way valve
  10. Defective or out of adjustment Pressure Switch

1 - 5 will result in a loss of freshwater.

6 & 7 will probably result in zero pressure and no loss of freshwater

8 & 9 can result in no pressure to partial pressure with no loss of freshwater

10 will probably not be your issue because you said the pump is running constantly with insufficient pressure

 

Stuart, the reason I did not go into detail in my first response is that you did not mention any loss of freshwater. The accumulator tank allows your freshwater pump to cycle less and have longer non-running periods. The tank allows for the accumulation of water pressure because of an expandable internal bladder which is supported by air pressure on one side. If/when the internal bladder fails or air pressure supporting the bladder reduces, the pump will cycle more often.

 

I hope this clarification helps. I am sure that you understand the accuracy of remote diagnosis, especially with limited information.

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

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On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 8:45 AM Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Stuart, I would try the following if the pump runs continuously.  The cause is likely a lack of pressure in the Accumulator tank.  At the tank, there is a blue cover which you can remove and where you can hook up a bicycle pump.  Turn off the pump and pump it up so the pressure shown on the meter is 2 bar.  See pic.  I hope this helps!  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem