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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Soraya,
​ et al​

It was a collaborative effort
​ and without you, it would have never been finished. Thank you so very much...you are GREAT. There is one more correction I see that is needed: "
hale bas de tangon
​" is the "
Pole aft line
​​."


Maybe we should tell every 54 owner that Amel accidentally left the 54 "pole up-guys" off of the official running rigging list. It might be because it appears to me that Amel rigged 3 different downwind pole configurations during the production of the 54.

Jeffery, Porter, & Courtney: You should download this
​Excel file
 from the Yahoo Amel Owners Group
​ (noting the change above)​
, or you can download it from Client Access at amelschool.com

​Best,​


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Nov 17, 2017 03:51, "SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Thanks to Bill R for validating the translations!


On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 at 12:39, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:
 

That’s very useful Thomas. Very Appreciated. 

Porter
Ibis-54-152


On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:01 AM, amelyachtowners@...m wrote:

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners
group.

File : /Running Rigging/Amel 54 Running Rigging.xlsx
Uploaded by : thomas_soraya <svgarulfo@...>
Description :

You can access this file at the URL:



To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&locale=en_US&id=SLN15398

Regards,

thomas_soraya <svgarulfo@...>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Upwind advice please

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Rudder drainage

Graham Cresswell <grahamjcresswell@...>
 

I've noticed that on each occasion recently that we have hauled our our
Maramu, water has drained from the bottom of the rudder for a few minutes. 

Is this a designed-in feature or do I have a problem?

Kind regards

Graham
SV Jamesby
Maramu #240

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Dish washer/washer dryer

Peter Rooms
 




Verzonden van Yahoo Mail voor iPhone

Op maandag, november 6, 2017, 14:40, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] schreef:

 

I started just washing dishes by hand, but have found the dishwasher to be very convenient and quick and use it much more often now.  The clothes washer is used all the time, but I dry clothes by hanging them up, not using the dryer function. 


Derick Gates
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently on the hard in Bailey's boatyard, Antigua

Upwind advice please

Porter McRoberts
 

Hello Amelians,

 

We are a 54 heading out likely Saturday or Sunday to cross the gulfstream to the Bahamas.  Forecast is 5-6ft waves period 6-7 sec on Sat. and 3-4 feet period 6-7 on Sunday.  Out of the Northeast to east.  With a dying breeze on Sunday.  Weather and seas essentially on the nose.

 

I write as we have sailed and motored quite a bit upwind over the summer.  It’s hard for me to estimate the exact size of oncoming waves, but the boat slams and it seems were taking green water over the nose with anything around 4 or up.  Unusual? 

 

The boat’s boot-stripe is about 3-4 inches above waterline on the nose, and 1 inch above water line at the aft.  I’ve tried to move as much weight forward, taking off the air compressor, moving dive-tanks to the port lazarette etc, but I can’t get the nose any lower than above.  (The Nance and Underwood riggers think were trim and just that the bootstripe has been painted in such upward fashion.)

 

My question to you guys is how comfortable is the 54 and SM going up weather- and most specifically into the waves?  How should I trim for the best trip?

 

Were crossing with some folks on a new Leopard 45.  (They want to cross Saturday) Who will have the rougher trip given the same (into the seas) conditions?

 

How would an angle from Palm Beach as opposed to Fort Lauderdale change things for a crossing towards the Berrys?  I’d see a shift to the beam for the waves- but current more on the nose.    Any thoughts?  

 

I know the boat will handle most anything, and I’ve sailed a good 5000 miles in the last 6 months, but a lot of downwind, and minimal upwind in heavier seas.  I’d be obliged to know your thoughts!

 

Many thanks—

 

Porter


Porter McRoberts
S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis.com
portermcroberts@...


Upwind advice please

Porter McRoberts
 

Hello Amelians,

 

We are a 54 heading out likely Saturday or Sunday to cross the gulfstream to the Bahamas.  Forecast is 5-6ft waves period 6-7 sec on Sat. and 3-4 feet period 6-7 on Sunday.  Out of the Northeast to east.  With a dying breeze on Sunday .  Weather and seas essentially on the nose.

 

I write as we have sailed and motored quite a bit upwind over the summer.  It’s hard for me to estimate the exact size of oncoming waves, but the boat slams and it seems were taking green water over the nose with anything around 4 or up.  Unusual?

 

The boat’s boot-stripe is about 3-4 inches above waterline on the nose, and 1 inch above water line at the aft.  I’ve tried to move as much weight forward, taking off the air compressor, moving dive-tanks to the port lazarette etc, but I can’t get the nose any lower than above.  (The Nance and Underwood riggers think were trim and just that the bootstrip has been painted in such upward fashion.)

 

My question to you guys is how comfortable is the 54 and SM going up weather- and most specifically into the waves?  How should I trim for the best trip?

 

Were crossing with some folks on a new Leopard 45.  (They want to cross Saturday) Who will have the rougher trip given the same (into the seas) conditions?

 

How would an angle from Palm Beach as opposed to Fort Lauderdale change things for a crossing towards the Berrys?  I’d see a shift to the beam for the waves- but current more on the nose.    Any thoughts? 

 

I know the boat will handle most anything, and I’ve sailed a good 5000 miles in the last 6 months, but a lot of downwind, and minimal upwind in heavier seas.  I’d be obliged to know your thoughts!

 

Many thanks—

 

Porter


Porter McRoberts
S/V Ibis: Amel 54-#152
Ft. Lauderdale
www.fouribis.com
portermcroberts@...







Re: Sharki emergency tiller.

smiles bernard
 

hi there

the two photos show the 2 sections really well and how they fit together but i was wondering if it would be possible to get a photo of the part that actually connects to the rudder post? 

I'd be really interested to see how this works

Many  thanks
Miles
 

Re: Replacing AMFA Fresh Water System by Jabsco

Duane Siegfri
 

Bill,

I'm wondering if you had to do anything special to put two of the Marco UP2/E pumps in parallel?  The reason I ask is the control unit, will both pumps run correctly when in parallel but with separate control units?

Thanks,
Duane

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

Sv Garulfo
 

Thanks to Bill R for validating the translations!


On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 at 12:39, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

That’s very useful Thomas. Very Appreciated. 

Porter
Ibis-54-152


On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:01 AM, amelyachtowners@... wrote:

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners
group.

File : /Running Rigging/Amel 54 Running Rigging.xlsx
Uploaded by : thomas_soraya <svgarulfo@...>
Description :

You can access this file at the URL:



To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&locale=en_US&id=SLN15398

Regards,

thomas_soraya <svgarulfo@...>

Re: Yanmar 100HP Fuel Pump maintenance-free?

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Hello Bill and Craig,

Yes, the question is about the fuel injection pump.  On the Yanmar, it is a ZEXEL NP - VE - 4 / 12 F 1900 R NP1995.

Craig, interesting that you had the pump rebuilt at 4,000 hrs... we are not there yet, and at our current average, will reach 4,000 hrs in about 2 years.  Just like you had the pump rebuilt at engine overhaul time, the Yanmar manual seems to implicate that the pump is to be overhauled at the same time as the engine itself...

... so along these lines... is 4,000 hrs perhaps the horizon for an engine overhaul on an Amel... ???

Yeah, kind of a philosophical question!

Best,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350 (2002)

Re: Yanmar 100HP Fuel Pump maintenance-free?

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Hi Francesco,

I think you may be asking more of a philosophy question than an engine maintenance one :-)  

Then again, nothing is maintenance-free forever. There are some signs of overhaul being needed, though. My Perkins developed an unstable rpm at about 4000 hours and I had the pump rebuilt, since I was rebuilding the rest of the engine myself anyway. (The injection pump is not a DIY job.) The shop reported that there was a good deal of internal corrosion from water having entered the system (a prior owner, I sure) and it would likely soon have resulted in a run-away situation with a failed governor. 

I'm now up to 7500 hours and it seems fine. With the pristine way you keep Peregrinus I would assert you're nowhere near a (costly) overhaul of the pump,

Cheers,  Craig SN#68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <svperegrinus@...> wrote :

Hello,


Looking at the Yanmar "Operation Manual", there is no mention of maintenance of the fuel pump, nor of any maintenance adjustment.


In the "Periodic Checking List" page of the Yanmar "Service Manual", there is no mention of maintenance of the fuel pump, nor of any maintenance adjustment.


However, in the Yanmar "Service Manual", there is a section called "Overhaul", and it says the fuel pump should be sent to a ZEXEL (the manufacturer of the pump) service center, and there are several pages of parameters and maintenance items for the fuel pump.


So, it seems the fuel pump is a maintenance-free item, except when you overhaul the engine.  Is this correct?  Is there any preventive maintenance for it, or is this a sort of a live and let die kind of component?


Thanks in advance,


Peregrinus

3,400 hours on 4JH3-HTE engine

Fethiye, ancient Telmessos, Asia Minor

Re: Yanmar 100HP Fuel Pump maintenance-free?

greatketch@...
 

We you say "fuel pump" are you referring to the lift pump or the injection pump?

Re: Iridium Go

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Re Porter's scale.

I have the Iridium external marine antenna installation (2015).  The antenna is located aft, port side, where Amel used to install the GPS antenna.  My findings:
Iridium Go at the Nav station with native antenna: 3/10 in connectivity 
Iridium Go at the nav station hooked to Iridium antenna with adaptor: 8-9/10
Iridium Go with native antenna under bimini with flexible solar panels: 6/10
Iridium Go with native antenna on side deck, handheld: 8-9/10

S/V Peregrinus
SM2K-350 Telmessos, Asia Minor (Fethiye)


---In amelyachtowners@..., <portermcroberts@...> wrote :

Re the antenna. 
I have exactly your setup. 
Installed, older iridium phone, and New iridium go with adaptor.  My findings:
Iridium Go at the Nav station with native antenna: 3/10 in connectivity 
Iridium Go at the nav station hooked to phone antenna with adaptor: 5/10
Iridium go with native antenna outside: 8-9/10 in connectivity. 

The ratings are my subjective opinions based on now a good bit of use.

Take home message: the older sat phone antenna is convenient, but not as effective as I’d like and often frustrating.  I’ll probably buy the dedicated Go antenna. 

I’d love to know if this mirrors your findings as I know of no way to actually test the older antenna to see if it’s “good” 

Best of Luck!

Porter
S/V IBIS. 54-152 Fort Lauderdale. 

Yanmar 100HP Fuel Pump maintenance-free?

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Hello,


Looking at the Yanmar "Operation Manual", there is no mention of maintenance of the fuel pump, nor of any maintenance adjustment.


In the "Periodic Checking List" page of the Yanmar "Service Manual", there is no mention of maintenance of the fuel pump, nor of any maintenance adjustment.


However, in the Yanmar "Service Manual", there is a section called "Overhaul", and it says the fuel pump should be sent to a ZEXEL (the manufacturer of the pump) service center, and there are several pages of parameters and maintenance items for the fuel pump.


So, it seems the fuel pump is a maintenance-free item, except when you overhaul the engine.  Is this correct?  Is there any preventive maintenance for it, or is this a sort of a live and let die kind of component?


Thanks in advance,


Peregrinus

3,400 hours on 4JH3-HTE engine

Fethiye, ancient Telmessos, Asia Minor

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Santa Marta

eric freedman
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Iridium Go

eric freedman
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Iridium Go

Courtney Gorman
 

so is your antenna installed outside? if so where?


-----Original Message-----
From: eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Nov 15, 2017 8:45 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Iridium Go

 
I also had a sat phone installed. However I ordered the marine kit for my go phone. The coaxial cables are completely different. The one supplied with the go and the go antenna is an extremely low loss cable. It is thick and stiff but was able to get it to the shelf on  the starboard side of the companionway. I always get a good connection to Iridium with this cable and antenna.
Fair winds,
eric
SM 376 Kimberlite


On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 07:58 AM, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 
thanks Porter!


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Wed, Nov 15, 2017 7:49 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Iridium Go

 
Re the antenna. 
I have exactly your setup. 
Installed, older iridium phone, and New iridium go with adaptor.  My findings:
Iridium Go at the Nav station with native antenna: 3/10 in connectivity 
Iridium Go at the nav station hooked to phone antenna with adaptor: 5/10
Iridium go with native antenna outside: 8-9/10 in connectivity. 

The ratings are my subjective opinions based on now a good bit of use.

Take home message: the older sat phone antenna is convenient, but not as effective as I’d like and often frustrating.  I’ll probably buy the dedicated Go antenna. 

I’d love to know if this mirrors your findings as I know of no way to actually test the older antenna to see if it’s “good” 

Best of Luck!

Porter
S/V IBIS. 54-152 Fort Lauderdale. 





On Nov 14, 2017, at 11:42 AM, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
thanks all!  Bill it is an older Iridium so as Heinz suggested I will need an adapter.


-----Original Message-----
From: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Nov 14, 2017 11:37 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Iridium Go

 
Courtney,

If the existing sat phone is an Iridium phone, the antenna is most likely compatible, although there might be a cable adapter needed.

If the existing antenna is from some other satphone system operating in other frequency bands, I do not have any knowledge of the chances of it working.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
On the hard at LMC,
Fort Lauderdale, FL

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi all I am looking at the Iridium Go and was wondering if those using it ordered the antenna also.  I am on a 54 and there is an existing sat phone with exterior antenna could that work instead?
Cheers
Cou rtney



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Iridium Go

eric freedman
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Dish washer/washer dryer

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Same as most the others on this thread. The clothes washer is excellent, quiet and we hang the washing to dry. It is such a pleasure to have that really good Thompson washing machine on board. We love it!

Todate, we have never yet turned the dishwasher on, as we prefer to simply wash the dishes by hand.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, Amel53 #332
Langkawi, Malaysia

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 12:02 AM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I started just washing dishes by hand, but have found the dishwasher to be very convenient and quick and use it much more often now.  The clothes washer is used all the time, but I dry clothes by hanging them up, not using the dryer function. 


Derick Gates
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently on the hard in Bailey's boatyard, Antigua




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Iridium Go

Courtney Gorman
 

thanks Porter!


-----Original Message-----
From: Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Nov 15, 2017 7:49 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Iridium Go

 
Re the antenna. 
I have exactly your setup. 
Installed, older iridium phone, and New iridium go with adaptor.  My findings:
Iridium Go at the Nav station with native antenna: 3/10 in connectivity 
Iridium Go at the nav station hooked to phone antenna with adaptor: 5/10
Iridium go with native antenna outside: 8-9/10 in connectivity. 

The ratings are my subjective opinions based on now a good bit of use.

Take home message: the older sat phone antenna is convenient, but not as effective as I’d like and often frustrating.  I’ll probably buy the dedicated Go antenna. 

I’d love to know if this mirrors your findings as I know of no way to actually test the older antenna to see if it’s “good” 

Best of Luck!

Porter
S/V IBIS. 54-152 Fort Lauderdale. 





On Nov 14, 2017, at 11:42 AM, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
thanks all!  Bill it is an older Iridium so as Heinz suggested I will need an adapter.


-----Original Message-----
From: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Nov 14, 2017 11:37 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Iridium Go

 
Courtney,

If the existing sat phone is an Iridium phone, the antenna is most likely compatible, although there might be a cable adapter needed.

If the existing antenna is from some other satphone system operating in other frequency bands, I do not have any knowledge of the chances of it working.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
On the hard at LMC,
Fort Lauderdale, FL

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hi all I am looking at the Iridium Go and was wondering if those using it ordered the antenna also.  I am on a 54 and there is an existing sat phone with exterior antenna could that work instead?
Cheers
Cou rtney