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Re: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

steve_bode@...
 

Whoops, forgot the photos.  Here they are:







---In amelyachtowners@..., <steve_bode@...> wrote :

Okay, folks. I got the winches off the deck, but someone’s got some ‘spainin’ to do. The bolts that hold the center stem to the base go all the way through the deck. NOT what the manual says. For people who try to service their Lewmar 58 electric winches on their Amel Super Maramu, beware, they might not be installed as Lemar suggests and are therefore UNSERVICABLE.


After my experience with the port winch that tool better than a day, I was able to remove the port winch in under 20 minutes. Simply remove the four 13mm bolts that hold the electric drive to the drive shaft flange and then remove the 6 allen bolts that retain the flange. I used a knife to cut away some of the caulking around the drive shaft before prying the unit off. To do that, you’ll need a piece of metal to protect the deck before hammering a screwdriver under the entire winch and base.


Now I’ll take them over the welder who will weld the nuts back on the end of the seized bolts so that I can twist the bolts loose. We’ll then cut the bolts in half to remove and replace them. I’ll let you know how that goes…









Re: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

steve_bode@...
 

Okay, folks. I got the winches off the deck, but someone’s got some ‘spainin’ to do. The bolts that hold the center stem to the base go all the way through the deck. NOT what the manual says. For people who try to service their Lewmar 58 electric winches on their Amel Super Maramu, beware, they might not be installed as Lemar suggests and are therefore UNSERVICABLE.


After my experience with the port winch that tool better than a day, I was able to remove the port winch in under 20 minutes. Simply remove the four 13mm bolts that hold the electric drive to the drive shaft flange and then remove the 6 allen bolts that retain the flange. I used a knife to cut away some of the caulking around the drive shaft before prying the unit off. To do that, you’ll need a piece of metal to protect the deck before hammering a screwdriver under the entire winch and base.


Now I’ll take them over the welder who will weld the nuts back on the end of the seized bolts so that I can twist the bolts loose. We’ll then cut the bolts in half to remove and replace them. I’ll let you know how that goes…









Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fwd: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Steve,sorry my previous got sent half done

I guess it was my good fortune that mine were hex. However the flat bits from my impact driver can be fitted to a rattle gun. Of course the flat bit wont have the same grip as a`hex. As I said before cordless electric rattle guns are available.

Regards

Danny

On 20 January 2018 at 22:02 "steve_bode@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Danny,


My screws holding the center stem to the base are not hex head. They are flat screws. See my photo of the center stem. That rattle gun sounds like a winner. I don't have any dive bottles (yet), so that's a no-go for today. I'm off to the Ferretería to purchase some better penetrating oil, a torch of some kind and a replacement bit for my impact driver and give this another go.

-Bode/s

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fwd: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Steve,

guess it was my good fortune that mine were hex. However the flat bits from my impact driver can be fitted to a rattle gun. Of course the flat bit wont have the same grip as a`

On 20 January 2018 at 22:02 "steve_bode@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Danny,


My screws holding the center stem to the base are not hex head. They are flat screws. See my photo of the center stem. That rattle gun sounds like a winner. I don't have any dive bottles (yet), so that's a no-go for today. I'm off to the Ferretería to purchase some better penetrating oil, a torch of some kind and a replacement bit for my impact driver and give this another go.

-Bode/s

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEADSAIL FURLING

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Yes, I am in Le Marin.
Amel does not have gears in stock now. Lead time now for making the gears is many months. We are going to buildup gear teeth by welding. I consider this a temporary fix. 

Vladimir
202 258 1916

On Jan 20, 2018 12:14, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Vladimir,

 

Are you still in Le Marin? Amel can fix the motor for you.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEADSAIL FURLING

 

 

My headsail furling failed. Steel worm gear needs replacement.

I wonder if someone can sell me a worm gear, or worm gear with a matting brass gear, or used headsail furling unit all together.

 

Please advice where I can buy those items or good replacement for Amel furling unit.

 

VLADIMIR

SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"

 

 

 

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

karkauai
 

Great, Porter!  Joel is trying to put together a dinner Monday night. He said he was going to call you. Hope we get to see you then.
Kent

On Jan 20, 2018, at 07:37, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent!  

We are in Fort Lauderdale for a few more weeks love to get together!  

Porter


Hookah System

karkauai
 

I changed the Subject line...

I bought an oil-less compressor from HarborFreight (pan style, 100psi) for $60 on sale.  With a 50ft hose and used regulator for another $75, I have a hookah system for cleaning the bottom, unfouling the prop, and changing zincs, as well as compressed air for lots of other things.  I run it off of my 1800W 24-110AC inverter.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243

Danny,

My screws holding the center stem to the base are not hex head. They are flat screws. See my photo of the center stem. That rattle gun sounds like a winner. I don't have any dive bottles (yet), so that's a no-go for today. I'm off to the Ferretería to purchase some better penetrating oil, a torch of some kind and a replacement bit for my impact driver and give this another go.

-Bode/s


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEADSAIL FURLING

Mark Erdos
 

Vladimir,

 

Are you still in Le Marin? Amel can fix the motor for you.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Martinique

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEADSAIL FURLING

 

 

My headsail furling failed. Steel worm gear needs replacement.

I wonder if someone can sell me a worm gear, or worm gear with a matting brass gear, or used headsail furling unit all together.

 

Please advice where I can buy those items or good replacement for Amel furling unit.

 

VLADIMIR

SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"

 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

amelforme
 

Kent and Porter. Call me at the cell number below. I put one too many 4’s in the last message....

JOEL F. POTTER
CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC
Office 954-462-5869 
Cell 95;-812-2485

On Jan 20, 2018, at 9:39 AM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent, Porter, please call me. Nine Five 4 four 8 one two 2485, or text your numbers to me there.

 

Hope to put something together, Joel

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

 

 


Hello Kent, S/V Kristy, SM243 - It truly is a small world.  We are around the corner from you, just south of South Lake, in the Suntex - Loggerhead Marina slip 119.  Give us a call if you have time: four eight zero - 818 - four 23 four.

Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEADSAIL FURLING

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

You did not say where you are, but I think you are in the Caribbean. Amel in Martinique probably has the gears in stock and possibly a rebuilt unit: AMEL CARAIBES - AMEL FR <amel.caraibes@...>

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:12 AM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

My headsail furling failed. Steel worm gear needs replacement.
I wonder if someone can sell me a worm gear, or worm gear with a matting brass gear, or used headsail furling unit all together.

Please advice where I can buy those items or good replacement for Amel furling unit.

VLADIMIR
SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"



 




--
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Bamar Amel Upgrade & New Group Member

cpp_berkeley <no_reply@...>
 

I would be interested in this too! Please keep me in the loop.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

amelforme
 

Kent, Porter, please call me. Nine Five 4 four 8 one two 2485, or text your numbers to me there.

 

Hope to put something together, Joel

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

 

 


Hello Kent, S/V Kristy, SM243 - It truly is a small world.  We are around the corner from you, just south of South Lake, in the Suntex - Loggerhead Marina slip 119.  Give us a call if you have time: four eight zero - 818 - four 23 four.

Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale


HEADSAIL FURLING

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

My headsail furling failed. Steel worm gear needs replacement.
I wonder if someone can sell me a worm gear, or worm gear with a matting brass gear, or used headsail furling unit all together.

Please advice where I can buy those items or good replacement for Amel furling unit.

VLADIMIR
SM 345 "LIFE IS GOOD"



 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

Porter McRoberts
 

Kent!  
We are in Fort Lauderdale for a few more weeks love to get together!  

Porter

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jan 19, 2018, at 10:40 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Welcome to the "Family" Mark & Debbie!  I'm anchoredin South Lake in Hollywood waiting for some parts to arrive.  Hope to be sailing to Bahamas, T&C, then South on Tues or Wed.  Would be happy to buy you a beer/wine/rum if you'd like to get together.  Anybody else in Ft Lauderdale area now?

Joel, are you available for dinner and/or a drink?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


On Jan 18, 2018, at 21:01, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

My wife, Debbie, and I are recent purchasers of an A54 #68 currently in Fort Lauderdale.  We are pleased to be members of such a dedicated community of people that are willing to help each other.  Hopefully we will be able to contribute in the future.

 

The second reason for the post is that we are planning to take advantage of the Bamar Amel upgrade program.  Paul at Bamar USA informed me that if enough people are interested in taking advantage of this program there would be significant cost savings of the furling gear.  If you have any interest please email Paul at the following address:  “paul at bamarUSA dot com”


Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale



Colour code hull gelcoat of SM 2K

Willem Kroes
 

Hi all owners of SM's 2K,


I am looking for information about the colour code of the white hull of a Super Maramu 2K.  Can anyone provide me with a RAL-code or an Awlgrip number?


I asked Amel, but Maud Touillet told me that Amel used a special gelcoat for these SM's without any colour code.


Looking forward to your reaction,


Willem Kroes


SM2K # 351 "Kavanga" now on the hard in Combarro, Spain




Re: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

steve_bode@...
 

Danny,

My screws holding the center stem to the base are not hex head. They are flat screws. See my photo of the center stem. That rattle gun sounds like a winner. I don't have any dive bottles (yet), so that's a no-go for today. I'm off to the Ferretería to purchase some better penetrating oil, a torch of some kind and a replacement bit for my impact driver and give this another go.

-Bode/s


Re: New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 


Hello Kent, S/V Kristy, SM243 - It truly is a small world.  We are around the corner from you, just south of South Lake, in the Suntex - Loggerhead Marina slip 119.  Give us a call if you have time: four eight zero - 818 - four 23 four.

Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale


New Group Member in Ft Lauderdale

karkauai
 

Welcome to the "Family" Mark & Debbie!  I'm anchoredin South Lake in Hollywood waiting for some parts to arrive.  Hope to be sailing to Bahamas, T&C, then South on Tues or Wed.  Would be happy to buy you a beer/wine/rum if you'd like to get together.  Anybody else in Ft Lauderdale area now?

Joel, are you available for dinner and/or a drink?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


On Jan 18, 2018, at 21:01, brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

My wife, Debbie, and I are recent purchasers of an A54 #68 currently in Fort Lauderdale.  We are pleased to be members of such a dedicated community of people that are willing to help each other.  Hopefully we will be able to contribute in the future.

 

The second reason for the post is that we are planning to take advantage of the Bamar Amel upgrade program.  Paul at Bamar USA informed me that if enough people are interested in taking advantage of this program there would be significant cost savings of the furling gear.  If you have any interest please email Paul at the following address:  “paul at bamarUSA dot com”


Mark & Debbie

A54 #68, S/V Brass Ring

Ft. Lauderdale



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Fwd: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help [2 Attachments]

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Steve,

I've been there. Fortunately the screws are hex head. You can get a hex head bit that  fits in what we call a rattle gun. These are the usually air driven drivers that are used to remove wheel nuts on cars and trucks, also for any hard to undo fastenings. Nothing else moved mine. With the rattle gun, instant success. I have an air hose off a dive bottle that allows me to use any air tools, paint spray guns etc on the boat. When you use the rattle gun take care, apply in short squirts. As well as air operated now you can get cordless electrical as well.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand

On 20 January 2018 at 12:08 "steve_bode@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Alexandre,

Got your picture, and understand that I should be able to remove the screws holding the center stem to the motor base. However, the center stem has not been removed (I think) ever and the bolts must be really seized. I broke a heavy-duty impact driver trying to get them out. Based on Bill's comment about a torch flame, I may buy a new impact drive and a torch and give that a shot. But I serious doubt that will do it.

Any one ever remove an Lewmar electric winch from a deck?

Steve Bode
Amel SM117



---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :

Steve,

I feel your pain...  Unfortunately, I can not see the pictures you posted, but I have some information to transmit that you might find useful.

As Alexandre said, there is no need to remove the motors to get the winch apart for service. You just need to remove the "frame" from the base.

In the attached photo, I have highlighted the bolts that secure the frame.  The do NOT go through the deck!  They are threaded into the base.  They are NOT the bolts that held the nuts you removed from below.  Those bolts are the ones that secure the base to the deck, and can not be removed until you get the frame off.

When the proper bolts are removed the frame will lift right off.  If the bolts are stuck are stuck, and a few of mine were, heat them gently with a small torch flame.  They will back right out.  When you reassemble them, be sure to put on some Tef-gel so they don't get stuck next time.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Harbor Cay, Bahamas


 


 


Re: Servicing Lewmar 58 winches - need help

steve_bode@...
 

Alexandre,
Got your picture, and understand that I should be able to remove the screws holding the center stem to the motor base. However, the center stem has not been removed (I think) ever and the bolts must be really seized. I broke a heavy-duty impact driver trying to get them out. Based on Bill's comment about a torch flame, I may buy a new impact drive and a torch and give that a shot. But I serious doubt that will do it.

Any one ever remove an Lewmar electric winch from a deck?

Steve Bode
Amel SM117



---In amelyachtowners@..., <greatketch@...> wrote :

Steve,

I feel your pain...  Unfortunately, I can not see the pictures you posted, but I have some information to transmit that you might find useful.

As Alexandre said, there is no need to remove the motors to get the winch apart for service. You just need to remove the "frame" from the base.

In the attached photo, I have highlighted the bolts that secure the frame.  The do NOT go through the deck!  They are threaded into the base.  They are NOT the bolts that held the nuts you removed from below.  Those bolts are the ones that secure the base to the deck, and can not be removed until you get the frame off.

When the proper bolts are removed the frame will lift right off.  If the bolts are stuck are stuck, and a few of mine were, heat them gently with a small torch flame.  They will back right out.  When you reassemble them, be sure to put on some Tef-gel so they don't get stuck next time.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Harbor Cay, Bahamas