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Stainless upright fridge 54

Nick Newington
 

So the fridge guy came this morning. He thinks any leak is very very slow and charged it with gas.
Works fine but I have my doubts.
Given my time constraints here in Volos we will carry on with the summer agenda.
My feeling is that I have at best bought a bit of time and that within a week it will pack up.

Nick
S/Y Amelia
AML 54-019
Volos Gr


Re: BT seals

Brian Mitchell
 

Hello Jose,

 

Can you kindly advise where we can purchase the silicon BT seals you refer to in your below email?  And are you still happy with the upgrade of same, you installed in your SM2K?

 

We are located in Australia and are about to be hauled out to complete our annual maintenance. Your assistance in procuring these seals would be greatly appreciated indeed.

 

Brian and Sue

Hope Island, Gold Coast, Queensland

S Y Lola

SM2K # 340

 

From: Susan Mason
Sent: Thursday, 24 June, 2021 10:43
To: Brian Mitchell <brian@...>
Subject: FW: [AmelYachtOwners] BT seals

 

This was in a stream of e-mails on the Amel Owners group – See below for his fix on the bow thruster seal issues.

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, 5 June, 2021 7:52
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] BT seals

 

Hello Ken and future users of the silicone BT seals,

 

I am truly impressed of the interest of using my design of the silicone seals.  I feel I could have started a company :)

 

Perhaps it will help if I explain why I ended up using two different seals (Wiper and lip seal)  in series instead of just one.

Not knowing whether either seal was going to work well, I decided to request one of each to test how well the fit on the space.  

When I received them I realized that I could place the lip seal first, facing down (NOT UP as in your drawings) and then place the wiper above it as shown in the pix.  Note that both seals should have the lip facing down to prevent water intake. This would double the sealing mechanism which I think is the reason for the longevity of the design. Also note that you can place them in the opposite order (but same direction !!) and it may still work well as I have heard from others. 

 

 So far I have had it in place for more than 4 years without changing them and have no water intake, even in two occasions were I forgot to bring the BT up for a few minutes while on the way, or compress the neoprene donuts with  the pin.  The softness of the silicone seals allow some motion without opening a slit thus preventing water ingress. With the old seals the misalignment of the seals and the trunk would have deformed the seals and damaged the for ever.

 

How to do it:

 

 Use silicone sealant to seal the bottom of the lip seal against the fiberglass bottom and side surfaces. 

 

Then I added sealant to the top flat surface of the lip seal also and aded the wiper with the lip FACING DOWN also.  

 

This lets half of the wiper protruding above the fibre glass opening but it still has good attachment against the top surface of the wiper and the side of the fibre-glass opening.

 

Place some weight over the wiper to push it agains the lip seal and leave the silicone sealant dry overnight.

 

Add the neoprene seal but only glue it after you have passed the trunk to guide its proper location.

 

Before you bring up the trunk, because the diameter of the lips is slightly less than the trunk’s diameter, It is NECESARY to use the wood insert provided by AMEL to service the BT on the water, also to help sliding the trunk up once the seals are in place. A little silicone grease will also help.  If you don’t use the wood wood, you will find it very difficult to insert the trunk up and you may ruin the wiper.

 

Here are two pix that may help

 

Jose 

Ipaname SM2K 278

 

 


Re: 24v Raymarine Linear Drive Clutch Opperation by NAC-3

Darren Gamble
 

Hi Chris

i have just brought the Nac 3 computer and will need to solve the clutch operation, could you share with me what specific brand, type of 25Ohm resistor you used? 
 Cheers Darren
SV Wanderer, SM 283


Re: Tender Amel 54 #dinghy

 

I created #dinghy
anything regarding dinghies, tenders, kayaks, or outboard engines


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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 3:50 PM Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:
#dinghy, #tender


Re: Tender Amel 54 #dinghy

Ruslan Osmonov
 

#dinghy, #tender


Re: Source for shaft alternator

Lance Leonard
 

I was thinking of using the alternator off a small tractor of some such. The alternator on my auxiliary is running at a 1:2 ratio and cuts in at 1000 rpm. I can fit a five inch pulley on the shaft and with a stock pulley on the alternator get to a 2:5  ratio. Just need to figure out the mounting brackets.


Re: Source for shaft alternator

Lance Leonard
 

Thanks Mark,that looks about how I expected it to. Is there a manufacturer’s model number on the alternator? I can’t read the data plate in your photo


Re: Source for shaft alternator

Lance Leonard
 

Minerva has the original Perkins 4.154 with a ZF transmission. I don’t think the shafts are interchangeable.


Re: Stainless front opening fridge

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

If you are a bit of a contortionist you can get to the compressor and board by just sliding the the box forward.  If possible have a filter/drier installed if you open the refrigerant lines, Frigoboat does not normally install this part.  The filter/drier is important to have with the cap tube style systems installed by Frigoboat.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: Stainless front opening fridge

Rick Stanley
 

I just installed a new Frigoboat stainless refrigerator on my SM2K. No real issues. After disassembling the washer/dryer cabinet and getting that out of the way, I slid out the old fridge and disassembled the under-fridge compressor box, took the mounting brackets off the old compressor, drilled some new holes, and re-constructed the box to hold the new compressor. Once I got that sorted, I mounted the box & new compressor to the bottom of the new fridge, made the connections, and slid the refrigerator back into place. I had to cut a small notch into the bottom edge of the countertop to account for the door hinge, and installed a small wire anchor from the side of the fridge to an eye bolt I placed under the sink to firmly secure it in place. The only issue I ran into was that I hadn't fully cranked down on the refrigerant connections and hadn't broken the seals inside the lines. Couple of pics to a tech and that was easily sorted. You REALLY have to crank on those connections. Overall the project took about 2 days, and since I installed it last week it's been working perfectly.

Rick Stanley
S/V Althea, SM2K #317
Rock Hall, Md


Re: Stainless front opening fridge

Nick Newington
 

The forum does it again.
Thanks.

I am tied up in Volos and the refrigeration engineer is coming tomorrow at 9 am.

Nick 
Amelia 
AML 54-019
Volos Gr


On 9 Aug 2021, at 14:14, Roque <ediroque@...> wrote:



 

Hi Nick.

No need to unscrew the refrigerant lines, at least not on A54 #117. Disconnect the electric wires from the control box and disconnect the water hoses (after shutting down the water line in the Engine room). You can join the "in" and "out" tips of the hoses with a 1/2 connection. This way you can keep using the other fridge and freezer.


Roque
Attika A54 117
Paraty - Brazil


Re: Stainless front opening fridge

Roque
 

 

Hi Nick.

No need to unscrew the refrigerant lines, at least not on A54 #117. Disconnect the electric wires from the control box and disconnect the water hoses (after shutting down the water line in the Engine room). You can join the "in" and "out" tips of the hoses with a 1/2 connection. This way you can keep using the other fridge and freezer.


Roque
Attika A54 117
Paraty - Brazil


Re: Stainless front opening fridge

Joshua Valkenier
 

Hi Nick,

In my 54 #29 I just removed the fridge to change the thermostat. I had to remove the door to get it out, but after disconnecting the power and cooling water tubes it comes out in one piece. 

Best regards,

Joshua


Re: Source for shaft alternator

Eric Freedman
 

Lance,

The reinstallation of a shaft generator seems like a simple project.

You would need to know the speed of the shaft when cruising. Once you have that information, I would go to a shop that rebuilds alternators and ask what speed you would need at the alternator to produce electric.  You can then figure out how large the pulleys you will have to fabricate make the alternator run at the desired speed.

I would think you could get an alternator that outputs between 50 and 80 amps. You would also have to know if your boat has an isolated bonding system and if you need 24 or 12 volts for your primary bank.

Then it is just a matter of fabricating a mount for the alternator and an adjustable arm to tension the belt, as well as making a circuit to energize the alternator on initial startup.

 

Attached please find a photo of a C drive Yanmar with a shaft generator and a serpentine belt.

The alternator in the photo seems to have a very big pully mounted to the shaft since it is after the transmission.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of marklesparkle59
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2021 3:38 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Source for shaft alternator

 

Lance this is a photo of my Shaft generator, from 1983. I have not got anything out of it yet and will soend some time tomorrow checking the connections. I also have a switch inside the cabin. If I can provide any info please ask.

Mark Porter

Sea Hobo

Sharki #96

 

On Sun, 8 Aug 2021, 16:07 Patrick McAneny via groups.io, <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Lance, I have SM and the shaft alt. disconnected , I have been thinking of removing the pulley and replace it with a spacer. I have a Volvo TMD22a . I don't know if they are  interchangeable ,if so I would be interest to trade. The problem for me is to find the time to move the engine ,etc. You could research if they would swap out ,without  modifications.

Thanks,

Pat

SM Shenanigans 

Sassafras River, Md.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Leonard <Elscubano@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 10:58 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Source for shaft alternator

I am looking at ways of increasing my power generating ability on my Maramu. Currently we have two 80w solar panels on the dodger and an ancient Hamilton Ferris wind generator on the mizzen. We keep our dingy on the cabin top above the aft berth which seems to be the only other place permanently attach soar panels. We thought about installing some on “wings” off the lifelines, but our paddle board and the boarding ladder wold make that a little challenging. Hence the shaft generator, Minerva was originally equipped with a shaft generator that has been removed at some point, there is a spacer on the shaft at the output of the transmission which is where the pulley lived originally I think. I haven’t tried to reach out to Amel yet since they went to the “C” drive I can’t imagine that that would be something they kept around. I think I might be able to have a machine shop fabricate a pulley to fit the where the spacer is now but I would think it would have to be a particularly low speed cut in alternator to get any meaningful output. Any thought or advice would be appreciated.
Lance Leonard
S/V Minerva
Maramu #135


Re: Source for shaft alternator

marklesparkle59
 

Lance this is a photo of my Shaft generator, from 1983. I have not got anything out of it yet and will soend some time tomorrow checking the connections. I also have a switch inside the cabin. If I can provide any info please ask.
Mark Porter
Sea Hobo
Sharki #96

On Sun, 8 Aug 2021, 16:07 Patrick McAneny via groups.io, <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Lance, I have SM and the shaft alt. disconnected , I have been thinking of removing the pulley and replace it with a spacer. I have a Volvo TMD22a . I don't know if they are  interchangeable ,if so I would be interest to trade. The problem for me is to find the time to move the engine ,etc. You could research if they would swap out ,without  modifications.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans 
Sassafras River, Md.


-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Leonard <Elscubano@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 10:58 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Source for shaft alternator

I am looking at ways of increasing my power generating ability on my Maramu. Currently we have two 80w solar panels on the dodger and an ancient Hamilton Ferris wind generator on the mizzen. We keep our dingy on the cabin top above the aft berth which seems to be the only other place permanently attach soar panels. We thought about installing some on “wings” off the lifelines, but our paddle board and the boarding ladder wold make that a little challenging. Hence the shaft generator, Minerva was originally equipped with a shaft generator that has been removed at some point, there is a spacer on the shaft at the output of the transmission which is where the pulley lived originally I think. I haven’t tried to reach out to Amel yet since they went to the “C” drive I can’t imagine that that would be something they kept around. I think I might be able to have a machine shop fabricate a pulley to fit the where the spacer is now but I would think it would have to be a particularly low speed cut in alternator to get any meaningful output. Any thought or advice would be appreciated.
Lance Leonard
S/V Minerva
Maramu #135


Re: Stainless front opening fridge

mr_hermanns
 
Edited

if my memory serves me right it’s just like the SM2K just shifted to port (next to sink, other side).

If you haven’t seen this: https://nikimat.com/fridge_removal.html

We removed ours on my previous SM - there is a support on the bottom you need to remove (2 screws). And have used Nikimat guide to clean our current Frigoboat that needs replacing soon!
--
Jeremy Hermanns - "Jer"
SVStarfish.com
SM2K #238
Chula Vista, CA


Stainless front opening fridge

Nick Newington
 

I plan to sail to the city of Volos in Greece tomorrow and try to repair my front opening fridge.
I had a dress rehearsal today to have a go at accessing the compressor, but we are 7 aboard so it went only so far.
I unscrewed the securing handles having removed the wooden board, and floor board and the whole thing slides out, but only so far. I am of the view that the next step is to unscrew the refrigerant lines at the valves, unplug the drain hose and it should lift up and out.
Giving good access to the compressor below.
Does anyone else have an opinion?
Is it necessary to detach the refrigerant lines?
Nick
S/Y Amelia
AML 54-019
Gulf of Volos Gr


Re: Source for shaft alternator

Patrick McAneny
 

Lance, I have SM and the shaft alt. disconnected , I have been thinking of removing the pulley and replace it with a spacer. I have a Volvo TMD22a . I don't know if they are  interchangeable ,if so I would be interest to trade. The problem for me is to find the time to move the engine ,etc. You could research if they would swap out ,without  modifications.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans 
Sassafras River, Md.


-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Leonard <Elscubano@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Aug 8, 2021 10:58 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Source for shaft alternator

I am looking at ways of increasing my power generating ability on my Maramu. Currently we have two 80w solar panels on the dodger and an ancient Hamilton Ferris wind generator on the mizzen. We keep our dingy on the cabin top above the aft berth which seems to be the only other place permanently attach soar panels. We thought about installing some on “wings” off the lifelines, but our paddle board and the boarding ladder wold make that a little challenging. Hence the shaft generator, Minerva was originally equipped with a shaft generator that has been removed at some point, there is a spacer on the shaft at the output of the transmission which is where the pulley lived originally I think. I haven’t tried to reach out to Amel yet since they went to the “C” drive I can’t imagine that that would be something they kept around. I think I might be able to have a machine shop fabricate a pulley to fit the where the spacer is now but I would think it would have to be a particularly low speed cut in alternator to get any meaningful output. Any thought or advice would be appreciated.
Lance Leonard
S/V Minerva
Maramu #135


Source for shaft alternator

Lance Leonard
 

I am looking at ways of increasing my power generating ability on my Maramu. Currently we have two 80w solar panels on the dodger and an ancient Hamilton Ferris wind generator on the mizzen. We keep our dingy on the cabin top above the aft berth which seems to be the only other place permanently attach soar panels. We thought about installing some on “wings” off the lifelines, but our paddle board and the boarding ladder wold make that a little challenging. Hence the shaft generator, Minerva was originally equipped with a shaft generator that has been removed at some point, there is a spacer on the shaft at the output of the transmission which is where the pulley lived originally I think. I haven’t tried to reach out to Amel yet since they went to the “C” drive I can’t imagine that that would be something they kept around. I think I might be able to have a machine shop fabricate a pulley to fit the where the spacer is now but I would think it would have to be a particularly low speed cut in alternator to get any meaningful output. Any thought or advice would be appreciated.
Lance Leonard
S/V Minerva
Maramu #135


Re: Created Hashtag #lessons

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill, Great , If owners take the time to log things they have learned that others may not be aware of ,it would make for interesting reading and provide useful info to old and new owners alike. I will get Diane to log a few things .
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Aug 7, 2021 12:53 pm
Subject: [Special] Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Created Hashtag #lessons

And to search all of the #lessons files, go to the website at https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/messages

Then SEARCH for #lessons
To find a specific lesson learned SEARCH for #lessons "keyword or phrase"
--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

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