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Re: Fuel Line

Mark Barter
 

Hi Mark,

It is the fuel line that runs from the fuel shut off valve along the side of the fuel tank to the first filter.

Thanks

--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Turbo question

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

No i clean the Turbo make nwe seals and it works perfekt
Elja

SM Balu 222


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Re: Turbo question

Paul Osterberg
 

This is how mine is, just some corrosion at the valve, have decided to put it back and ser if it works now after cleaning, else buy a new one.
Paul on sykerpa SM 259 


Re: Pasarelle / swim ladder SM

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Hi Alan,

Here are a couple of pictures of ours, if it can help. The wheels were changed by me and are not original (couldn’t find them). Not on the boat at the moment, so cannot take dimensions. 

Guillaume 
Carpathia III - SM2K #293
Now in Athens


Re: Pasarelle / swim ladder SM

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Dave,
That would be great !
No rush, I'm not going anywhere for a while !
Look forward to the photos and drawing.
Cheers
Alan
ELYSE SM437


Re: Pasarelle / swim ladder SM

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Danny,
I'll let you know.
Alan


Re: After market engine mounts ? #replacement

Craig Briggs
 

The Amel "C" drive design presents a novel marine engine mount configuration, namely, there is absolutely no thrust component and the mounts are not fastened to the engine!

Conventional "factory spec" mounts for marine (propulsion) engines are designed to handle three components; vibration dampening, torsional resistance and mostly, a huge thrust resistance. Without the requirement for withstanding a thrust component, I would posit that "factory supplied" mounts are over specified for an Amel ("C" drive).

In fact, the "Amel way" (on "C" drive boats) does not even attach any "engine mounts" to the engine!  Instead the the engine is "hard bolted" to the frame carrying both the engine and "C" drive and the entire frame is connected to the hull with "engine mounts" (the "C" drive has it's own "engine mounts" to the frame). These "engine mounts" might more appropriately be called "vibration dampeners".  

So, for example, Yanmar "factory spec"  "engine mounts" are designed for four independent attachment points to the engine stringers to resist the full HP thrust of the propeller and handle torsion and vibration. On the Amel "C" drive, there are six "engine mounts" - four attachment points that are not independent with respect to the engine and two more for the "C" drive. Clearly a different engineering situation.

Just food for thought.  
Cheers, Craig  - SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Turbo question

Rob Hughes
 

yes i have the tamd pb


Re: Turbo question

Alain Blanchard
 

Hello Rob

I remember this video about turbo. It might Help ... There are 4 videos  on the subject. 


Alain


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Le 24 sept. 2020 à 02:59, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> a écrit :

 Question??? Are you sure of the engine desig?  TMD22 is the usual engine , not the TAMD...

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, OPUA,NZ


On 24/09/2020, at 10:10 AM, Rob Hughes via groups.io <svluna01@...> wrote:


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This is my 6 yr old turbo from Volvo tamd22 after being cleaned. I have a loss of rpm only able to get 2200. Is this rust color normal? I'm wondering about all the pitting. I have a new turbo on order. Just want to see if I have another issue that needs addressing. And if anyone has pictures of their turbo after cleaning could you share that please.


Re: After market engine mounts ? #replacement

rossirossix4
 
Edited

Hi Paul,
I believe the 200 refers to a capacity of 200 kg.  When Didier, an experienced Amel mechanic in Le Marin replaced our original mounts for our 2004 Yanmar 4JH3-HTE engine he suggested increasing the capacity of original Vetus mounts to the 300 kg model, Yanmar part number 120149-08441 -- https://photos.app.goo.gl/sZ5QSSX4HzJTtexh9 .  He told me that he felt it was a better match for the engine, especially with the extra weight of our heavier Leece-Neville alternators and double v-belt assemblies. Didier told us that it was possible that more vibration would be transmitted by these mounts but I did not detect any increase and he agreed when we sea-trialed the new mounts and (more importantly) his engine alignment.  The new mounts looked much the same as the original Vetus mounts except they were a bit "beefier".  Didier can be reached at vaguesca@... (best to use French).
Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI  SM429


Re: Pasarelle / swim ladder SM

David Kurtz
 

I have mine set up now and I’ll be on my SM2 on Friday.  I’ll send photos.  I am also going to make a new plank for the passerelle because mine is coming apart. I’ll send along a dimensioned drawing.  (Might be a week or two.)
--
Dave Kurtz
SM2 #380
S/V Celtic Cross

Detroit, Michigan


Re: Turbo question

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Question??? Are you sure of the engine desig?  TMD22 is the usual engine , not the TAMD...

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, OPUA,NZ


On 24/09/2020, at 10:10 AM, Rob Hughes via groups.io <svluna01@...> wrote:


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This is my 6 yr old turbo from Volvo tamd22 after being cleaned. I have a loss of rpm only able to get 2200. Is this rust color normal? I'm wondering about all the pitting. I have a new turbo on order. Just want to see if I have another issue that needs addressing. And if anyone has pictures of their turbo after cleaning could you share that please.


Re: After market engine mounts ? #replacement

eric freedman
 

I always use Factory supplied parts for both the engine and generator.
With respect to the engine mounts do the mounting holes line up with
your existing mounts.
Do you have the alignment tool for your engine?
Are you just changing 2 mounts?
Fair winds,
Eric
SM 376

On September 23, 2020 at 2:32 PM "Paul Guenette via groups.io" <paulguenette@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am looking at replacing the engine mounts on my 2004 Yanmar 4JH3-HTE engine.

The current Yanmar mounts, (on the fuel and oil filter side), are labeled 200 which I believe would mean they are Yanmar part number  YAN 129670-08351.

There are other companies like R & D  and Poly Flex that make after market  engine mounts.

Have any of you tried any of the aftermarket engine mounts ?

If so, what has your experience been ?

Thank you.

Paul

Aramis, SM 2000,  444

Comox, BC, Canada




 


Re: Pasarelle / swim ladder SM

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Alan, I have them and if you dont get help elsewhere I can pull it all out and photograph it for you. Let me know.

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand

On 24 September 2020 at 12:27 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Hi all SM owners,

Our swim ladder is just that, we have the wheels and the deck step end but none of the parts to make it into a usable pasarelle.
Does anyone have the specifications for the original pasarelle board and handrail tubes for the swim ladder on an SM?
Even some clear  pictures would be good.

Thanks
Cheers
Alan
ELYSE SM437


Pasarelle / swim ladder SM

Alan Leslie
 

Hi all SM owners,

Our swim ladder is just that, we have the wheels and the deck step end but none of the parts to make it into a usable pasarelle.
Does anyone have the specifications for the original pasarelle board and handrail tubes for the swim ladder on an SM?
Even some clear  pictures would be good.

Thanks
Cheers
Alan
ELYSE SM437


locked Re: Batteries starting to get weak - MMM - What to do -

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Scott,

Don't get me wrong. I'm not against Lithium. I'm just trying to bring some nuance to the many über-happy stories about Lithium. These things are bloody expensive and people should know what they are getting into.
Actually I'm really happy that you bought Lithium because that means you can tell me about how this works in the long term 😎.

In the electric car world you see similar discussions about charging speed and charging level. People are now starting to find out that these batteries are degrading much faster when you are a super-charging junkie and keep pushing it to 100% SOC
So if you buy a used Tesla from a predominately home charging person that doesn't use his car as racing vehicle you are much better off then when you buy a mostly supercharged race-car. There is a reason Tesla keeps all these metrics on their cars.
Latest EV cars are charging with more then 2C (250 kW) using water cooled charging cables. I really wonder how that will work out on the long term.

Anyway I don't want to talk anyone out of Lithium and if my use case was different I probably would have bough an all singing and dancing Lithium pack by now. But I would expect a 8-10 year lifespan of it.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Turbo question

Rob Hughes
 



This is my 6 yr old turbo from Volvo tamd22 after being cleaned. I have a loss of rpm only able to get 2200. Is this rust color normal? I'm wondering about all the pitting. I have a new turbo on order. Just want to see if I have another issue that needs addressing. And if anyone has pictures of their turbo after cleaning could you share that please.


locked Re: Batteries starting to get weak - MMM - What to do -

Scott SV Tengah
 

Arno,

My Victron BMS reports cell level voltage down to 0.01v. I can view it via bluetooth and have seen it vary by 0.01v.  I can attest that when I had an imbalance, up to 90% SOC, the cells had the exact same voltage, down to 0.01v. Above that, the variance reared its ugly head. This is not theory - this is my experience living with this system fulltime for 2 years. So I would be very skeptical of any active balancer that has the same resolution as you may be unknowingly exacerbating an imbalance by relying on marketing promises.

If I haven't stated before, I do agree that if you want a system that requires no planning and very little monitoring aside from making sure you don't go below 50% SOC, then lead batteries are fine. If I were in your position and spent most of my time plugged into marinas, I would probably NOT get lithium even if someone paid me to take it. 

One guy may have had his gel batteries last 9 years, but longevity is not the main reason we got lithium. As we speak, I am running the dishwasher and washing machine and the admiral just turned on the microwave - all on battery/inverter. The continuous draw is around 160amps and the voltage is quite stable. Because of the huge boost in charge efficiency compared to lead, I won't be running the genset to recharge the batteries, either. Our solar is more than enough.

But as economists like to say - there is no free lunch. Lithium requires planning and thinking prior to implementation and if you plan it right, it is set it and forget it. I am not quite there but moving in that direction slowly. The same thing applies if you compare roller electric in-mast furling vs. manual stacking mainsails. The former requires some thinking but, at least to me, is well worth the effort. For my use case, lithium is the same. 

I hope my contribution to this forum is useful in that those who are off-grid and would rather not run the genset all the time are given some useful info that they can use to plan their systems. It is beyond my risk tolerance to try to assemble battery cells and rely on them in the middle of the ocean, so I went with a mostly-one-brand solution that allows me to monitor every single of the 24 cells via bluetooth and if a cell fails, quickly remove that battery pair and continue on with my trip. Luckily I haven't had to do that yet.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,

Typically good BMS-es can measure at 0.01 resolution. So even at lower SOC you will be able to see differences. Charging up to 100% can be postponed longer with continuous balancing. Active balancing means you are using the charge of the fuller cell to charge the less full cell. That improves the speed of balancing and prevents useless heat generation.
Obviously it's not as world of difference all together but if you design a BMS for lithium you may as well make it top notch. The system is expensive enough to push it to the limits of longevity.
Your battery-monitor has a easier life with lithium as the charge/discharge losses are far less so it will keep an accurate reading longer, especially if you can set the Peukert value yourself.

If you are less concerned about those things than I think the Battle Born 24V batteries are a good choice, just do not expect 10-15 years of life. If you do achieve 10-15 years you can always celebrate at that time, but at least you will not be disappointed.
As said before and as said by others as well; there is still so much development in this area that I prefer to wait a few years to see what the next best will be. I just read something about a person managing 9 years on some Gel batteries so it's not that all other chemistries are useless.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


locked Re: Batteries starting to get weak - MMM - What to do -

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Scott,

Typically good BMS-es can measure at 0.01 resolution. So even at lower SOC you will be able to see differences. Charging up to 100% can be postponed longer with continuous balancing. Active balancing means you are using the charge of the fuller cell to charge the less full cell. That improves the speed of balancing and prevents useless heat generation.
Obviously it's not as world of difference all together but if you design a BMS for lithium you may as well make it top notch. The system is expensive enough to push it to the limits of longevity.
Your battery-monitor has a easier life with lithium as the charge/discharge losses are far less so it will keep an accurate reading longer, especially if you can set the Peukert value yourself.

If you are less concerned about those things than I think the Battle Born 24V batteries are a good choice, just do not expect 10-15 years of life. If you do achieve 10-15 years you can always celebrate at that time, but at least you will not be disappointed.
As said before and as said by others as well; there is still so much development in this area that I prefer to wait a few years to see what the next best will be. I just read something about a person managing 9 years on some Gel batteries so it's not that all other chemistries are useless.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


After market engine mounts ? #replacement

Paul Guenette
 

Hello,

I am looking at replacing the engine mounts on my 2004 Yanmar 4JH3-HTE engine.

The current Yanmar mounts, (on the fuel and oil filter side), are labeled 200 which I believe would mean they are Yanmar part number  YAN 129670-08351.

There are other companies like R & D  and Poly Flex that make after market  engine mounts.

Have any of you tried any of the aftermarket engine mounts ?

If so, what has your experience been ?

Thank you.

Paul

Aramis, SM 2000,  444

Comox, BC, Canada



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