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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Guessing Game [1 Attachment]
Beaute Olivier
Hi Fred, this is the rope you use to lift the outboard engine from its support on the guard rail: Run both shackled ends of the rope through the open pulleys at mizzen boom end, and tie the loop of the rope to the handling halyard on mizzen mast starboard (at spreaders). Then tie the shackles to the harness of your outboard engine. That's a good way to give it to the people in the dinghy. Have a good practise. Olivier
On Monday, April 30, 2018, 11:10:13 AM GMT+2, scentstone@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
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Hi, Amel smartness has no limit ! I would like to open a new chapter of this game for our experts if they can help at identifying this rope. There are 2 shackles and quite special design so I thought that it is here since the launching. Picture attached :
Additionally I would be grateful, if someone can share a picture + characteristics of the genuine forestay rope for manually furling the genoa. Fred S/V ScentStone SM2K #375 currently Bundaberg AU
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel font
Bill,
You are correct. We purchased them from Amel. They are not always in stock. I had to check a few times. Very easy to remove the old ones and replace.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Bonaire www.creampuff.us
From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:04 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel font
Seckin,
Try SAV"at"amel.fr. I remember someone recently saying that they bought some from Amel.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:06 PM, seckinbar@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Dear All;
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Re: Guessing Game
Hi Fred,
That's the factory supplied line for hoisting your dinghy outboard. The spliced eye attaches to the lifting halyard on the port side of the mizzen. Then the two legs with the shackles go over the mizzen boom, one on each side and run over the cheek blocks at the end of the boom. The sling piece goes onto the engine first. Then.swing the boom out over the dinghy engine and lower and attach the shackles of the lifting line. Finally, run the halyard to a winch (the main sheet winch works fine), then hoist the engine and swing it either to the rail mount or into the aft locker. Rather than using the engine rope sling, I've installed eye-bolts on either side of my outboard just below the cover so I can simply attach the shackles directly, without fussing with a sling. Regarding the furling line for the genoa, I'm not sure a dedicated line was supplied, but on our SN the balooner sheet is the right size. Run it around the furler and then through the foreguy blocks and aft to a winch. Cheers, Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris ---In amelyachtowners@..., <scentstone@...> wrote : Hi, Amel smartness has no limit ! I would like to open a new chapter of this game for our experts if they can help at identifying this rope. There are 2 shackles and quite special design so I thought that it is here since the launching. Picture attached :
Additionally I would be grateful, if someone can share a picture + characteristics of the genuine forestay rope for manually furling the genoa. Fred S/V ScentStone SM2K #375 currently Bundaberg AU
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel font
Seckin, Try SAV"at"amel.fr. I remember someone recently saying that they bought some from Amel. Best, CW Bill Rouse Admiral, Texas Navy Commander Emeritus Amel School http://www.amelschool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:06 PM, seckinbar@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Amel font
Seckin Barlas
Dear All;
I wonder how can I find the AMEL font in the side of mu supermaramu? I need to renew the old stickers. Thanks in advance Seckin Barlas S/Y Hayat
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvos....... [1 Attachment]
INUS - BUSCH
Hi, here is what I did in order to control the installed tachometer: I bought this instrument https://www.conrad.de/de/drehzahlmesser-voltcraft-dt-10l-werksstandard-ohne-zertifikat-122624.html
You only have to fix the delivered reflective mark on a turning part of the motor and via the laser of the instrument you get contactless the correct rotational speed. Its very easy and I found out that I had to adjust my tachometer. Just my 2 cents.
Dieter Fal-lera Sharki #135
Von: amelyachtowners@...
[Attachment(s) from greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] included below] According to my shop manual the maximum no-load speed is coded into the "setting code" on the injection pump.
The manual says:
The setting code on my engine is 2643H058BE/1/5150 which would indicate the the correct no-load maximum speed is 5150 RPM.
The code is stamped into a label on the side of the injection pump... like the (hopefully) attached photo.
If yours is the same, I am not sure I see the problem yet..
Whenever you are checking the rotational speed of the engine for critical adjustments, be sure you do not trust the installed tachometer. They can be wildly inaccurate.
Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie
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Guessing Game
scentstone
Hi, Amel smartness has no limit ! I would like to open a new chapter of this game for our experts if they can help at identifying this rope. There are 2 shackles and quite special design so I thought that it is here since the launching. Picture attached :
Additionally I would be grateful, if someone can share a picture + characteristics of the genuine forestay rope for manually furling the genoa. Fred S/V ScentStone SM2K #375 currently Bundaberg AU
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Re: Steaming/Deck light Replacement
scentstone
Hi Mark, I did it recently and after sales at Amel were really cooperative. I hope it helps. Fred S/V ScentStone SM2K #375
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvos....... [1 Attachment]
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Thanks , Bill ,
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It’s a brand new tacho , 300 hours .
( maybe made in China ! )
Ian
On 30 Apr 2018, at 00:36, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: NMEA 0183 wire color?
danielmfrey63@...
Duane
My S2G is only getting "orders"... or in NMEA terms, it is only a listener, not a talker. Best - Daniel
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvos.......
James Alton
Ian and Judy,
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I am really glad to hear that you feel you are making progress with solving your engine problem. I think that we are certainly lucky to have knowledgeable and helpful people like Bill Kinney on this forum! He has taught me a lot and I always enjoy reading his posts. Do let me know when you cure the engine problem. My wife and I should be headed up the Adriatic in about 3 months so who knows maybe we will cross paths. It would certainly be interesting to hear more about your experiences in Brasil. Best, James SV Sueño Maramu #220 Arbatax, Sardinia
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Steaming/Deck light Replacement
Hi Mark, I believe that David Vogle on Perigee just replaced his. So you might want to reach out to him. It looked like the model you posted. He did have the luxury of having his stick down for new standing rigging.
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My lens for the steaming light hit the deck in Statia 2 weeks ago. Three pieces on the deck and the rest (4 pieces) were 5 meters under the boat. I looked up the replacement, saw the cost and strapped on my mask and fins and dove into the crystal clear water. A bit of glue and the puzzle went together. It's not pretty, but it's still working! We will be headed to Bonaire in a week or two. Cheers, Dan Carlson on sv BeBe, sm #287.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvos.......
greatketch@...
According to my shop manual the maximum no-load speed is coded into the "setting code" on the injection pump.
The manual says:
The setting code on my engine is 2643H058BE/1/5150 which would indicate the the correct no-load maximum speed is 5150 RPM. The code is stamped into a label on the side of the injection pump... like the (hopefully) attached photo. If yours is the same, I am not sure I see the problem yet.. Whenever you are checking the rotational speed of the engine for critical adjustments, be sure you do not trust the installed tachometer. They can be wildly inaccurate. Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie
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Re: Antal ball bearings
mfmcgovern@...
Eric,
Believe it or not, the ball bearing in the Antal Main Boom Car are 1/4 inch (0.25 inch) in OD. Quite odd for an Italian made part! I had to replace the shackle on the car due to a crack so decided to measure one for you. See the attached pic. Mark SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA ---In amelyachtowners@..., <ericmeury@...> wrote : Not on the boat right now. but does anyone know the size of the ball bearing size of the Antal boom car/traveler. I need to replace mine.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvos.......
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Thanks, James,
You may have seen my exchange with Bill. I think I may be getting somewhere.
We've always had a great experience with our Autoprop which is spinning freely. I have been amazed that it was able to work at all on a couple of occasions when we have left the boat in foul waters, once in Brasil and once in Spain. Both times you couldn't see any metal for mussels, but we still managed to limp along at 3-4 knots to a cleaning place. In Brasil, which has a lot of shark attacks that are kept out of the news, that meant spending too much time under the boat about 10 miles offshore. You would be amazed how quickly you can clean a prop.
I hope to post a happy ending to this story soon.
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Athens
From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 29 April 2018 16:09:35 To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvos....... Ian and Judy, Sorry, I don’t have the same engine but hopefully someone else will answer that question for you.
In general, if your engine is reaching your normal full throttle loaded rpm in neutral but you are 700 short under load of what is normal, either the load is higher than it used to be or the power output has dropped for some reason. You indicate
that the prop is perfectly clean but perhaps it is not auto pitching properly for some reason? There has been a lot of discussion on the Auto-prop (which I do not have on my boat) on the forum that you could bring up by searching.
Best of luck and I hope that you get more help with this problem,
James
SV Sueño
Maramu #220
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvos.......
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Bill,
Thanks. That's really useful. I find that in neutral it is now idling at 800 revs, which seems high; more importantly, it revs above 3,000--and that's without the throttle flat out.
Looking rather as though the pump now heads the list of usual suspects. Ouch. Still, just about everything else has been rebuilt , so I guess it was feeling left out.
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Athens
From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 29 April 2018 16:31:11 To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvos....... Ian, Mechanical diesel injection pumps are actually all governor controlled. The throttle is actually controlling the setting of the speed governor, (sometimes called a "speed regulator") which in turn controls the volume of fuel delivered by the injection
pump to deliver the amount of fuel needed to run the engine at the commanded speed.
On Bosch injections systems (like on the Volvo) the governor/regulator is internal to the injector pump, and like all the internal parts of the injection pump, it tends to be highly reliable. But if an engine can not control
its speed under no load, it is a likely candidate for a problem.
On some engines the governor is a separate device. I did once work on an engine that had a separate governor that was badly clogged up with emulsified oil when water got into the
crankcase... a very unhappy story...
Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Palmetto Point, Eleuthera, Bahamas
---In amelyachtowners@..., <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote : Bill,
Do you have the 78hp Volvo with a governor ? Can you tell me how the governor works--and what might upset it ?
Ian
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Volvos.......
greatketch@...
Ian,
Mechanical diesel injection pumps are actually all governor controlled. The throttle is actually controlling the setting of the speed governor, (sometimes called a "speed regulator") which in turn controls the volume of fuel delivered by the injection pump to deliver the amount of fuel needed to run the engine at the commanded speed. On Bosch injections systems (like on the Volvo) the governor/regulator is internal to the injector pump, and like all the internal parts of the injection pump, it tends to be highly reliable. But if an engine can not control its speed under no load, it is a likely candidate for a problem. On some engines the governor is a separate device. I did once work on an engine that had a separate governor that was badly clogged up with emulsified oil when water got into the crankcase... a very unhappy story... Bill Kinney SM160, Harmonie Palmetto Point, Eleuthera, Bahamas ---In amelyachtowners@..., <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote : Bill, Do you have the 78hp Volvo with a governor ? Can you tell me how the governor works--and what might upset it ? Ian
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvos.......
James Alton
Ian and Judy,
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Sorry, I don’t have the same engine but hopefully someone else will answer that question for you. In general, if your engine is reaching your normal full throttle loaded rpm in neutral but you are 700 short under load of what is normal, either the load is higher than it used to be or the power output has dropped for some reason. You indicate that the prop is perfectly clean but perhaps it is not auto pitching properly for some reason? There has been a lot of discussion on the Auto-prop (which I do not have on my boat) on the forum that you could bring up by searching. Best of luck and I hope that you get more help with this problem, James SV Sueño Maramu #220
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Re: NMEA 0183 wire color?
Duane Siegfri
Daniel,
Thanks for your reply. So A = Positive and B = Negative. It can't hurt anything, if it doesn't work then I'll just reverse them. I was thinking in terms of feeding the S3g Autopilot Computer the Apparent Wind Angle, did you also hook up the NMEA0183 "out" from the S3g? I can't think of anything the network would want from the course computer. Duane
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvos.......
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi James, ( or anyone else )
If you are on board and have the same 75hp Volvo as I have, can you put on full revs in neutral and let me know what revs you reach ?
Thanks,
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Athens
From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 28 April 2018 16:23:44 To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Volvos....... Ian, The diesel engine governors that I am familiar with mechanically limit the engine RPM to a preset level by reducing the throttle setting. If you are getting full revs. in neutral but not under load, I doubt that the governor is your problem.
I am sure that you will get more specific help here from others with the possible causes of your low revs.
Best of luck,
James
SV Sueño
Maramu #220
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