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Maramu 46 Owner's Manual

dwentworth@...
 

 I have searched this forum and online for an owner's manual for the Maramu 46. Does anyone here have a digitized or pdf copy they are willing to share?
Re: B&G Masthead Unit 213

pjn.mccallin@...
 

Sorry Duane, am not sure if my messages are being sent to you, can you contact me direct on pjn.mccallin
@gmail.com please. 
Am interested in your M H U but can not locate it on EBay, can you please provide the reference number,
Thanks Patrick Caramelle 385.
Have tried a number of times to contact you, !!
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill , Going to Home Depot tomorrow , if I don't find the one Bill bought there , I will look yours up on Amazon.
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2018 10:06 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 
Pat,

I can not add anything to the discussion on the details of the switch, since my boat has been retrofitted there, but I I had a list of "tools for a boat, and included the wire tracer I have used to good effect.


Bill Kinney
Benett Harbor, Cat Island, Bahamas
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Halyard Sheave

Leopold Hauer
 

Hi  Duane

I have made the Drawing in Le Marin at Amel. That is what Amel Sales.
Best regards


Leopold

Yinyang, SM #69


 meinem iPad gesendet

Am 20.04.2018 um 16:18 schrieb sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Leopold,


From my memory I don't think the sheaves are 100mm in diameter on my boat (almost 4 inches), do I read your sketch correctly?  Perhaps it's the difference in the hull numbers?

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477
B&G Masthead Unit 213

Duane Siegfri
 

I've removed the B&G Masthead Unit in the switchover to a NMEA 2000 electronics system.  I puchased this one right after Hurricane Irma ruined our old one in November of 2017.  So this one is only 5 months old and ready for a new Owner.  It's listed on Ebay if anyone is interested at less than half of the new price.


If you want a spare for your system, this is as good a deal as you'll find.  Nearly new and half the price.


Duane

Wanderer, SM#477
Re: Jib Halyard Sheave

Duane Siegfri
 

Leopold,

From my memory I don't think the sheaves are 100mm in diameter on my boat (almost 4 inches), do I read your sketch correctly?  Perhaps it's the difference in the hull numbers?

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Balooner usage advice

smiles bernard
 

Thanks so much for all the thoughts and advice. Really helpful as always on this great forum 
I’m on the boat at the moment for the first time since Christmas and have a list of ‘to dos’ as long as my arm (at which point the ink ran out!) 
I’m here till tues am when I fly home again  then the family and I all head out hear again in July to start a cruise. 
I’ve taken my old main set of sails to a local sailmaker that a local friend recommended ( Luis in Tenerife -happy to share his number just shout)

and hoping to get some time tomorrow to get the other sails out work out a plan

Strangely on my Maramu a previous owner installed a removable staysail stay. Seems a bit weird to me as even though it’s only for a small storm sail I’m not that keen on the fact it has no equivalent backstay support.  
But it does have a deck fitting / attachment point fwd of the windlass. So if I did go for a removable forestay I would cannibalise the removable staysail bits.

I’ll look more closely at my set up and then weigh that in with lots of good advice from you guys to use what I’ve got rigging wise 😉


I’ll let you know what I opt for in the end and thanks again for help and advice 

All the best

Miles


On 19 Apr 2018, at 12:04, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Miles,


   I have used the Ballooner on Sueño a few times now.  My boat also just has two grooves so once I hoist the ballooner up the second groove using my spare halyard, I am unable to furl either the ballooner or the genoa until the ballooner has been lowered. Perhaps this limitation is what Eric is referring to in his post.  Because of this limitation,  I have so far always taken the ballooner down before dark and only used it during stable conditions.  

Best,

James
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Apr 18, 2018, at 11:40 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Miles,

Without the triple groove plus thes pecial gadget at the top of the headstay you can’t use the ballooner.

 

I find  it much easier to fly a 1400-1500 sq foot gennaker in a sock, works like a charm’

Fair Winds

 

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 4:13 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Balooner usage advice

 

  

Hello there

I’m new to the Amel way and have been learning lots from this fabulous forum as I get to know my older 1985 Maramu 

I’m still unsure of a the best approach to my downwind rig and would benefit hugely from this groups thoughts and experience of getting the best from the balooner sail. 

Thus far I have been moving toward the option of adding a 2nd removable forestay on my older Maramu. Positioned as close to the furling Genoa as possible and as high up the mast as possible to avoid running back stays. 

I’d use his mainly for a twin headsail downwind set up with independence between the furler and a smaller 80-90% jib poled to windward. 

I’ve used this setup before and like it lots I chose it over the option of hoisting two sails up the furler luff groove and loved its simplicity, independence of sails, provision of a spare forestay, ability to set a storm sail etc etc

But on the group lots of people advice is to not change anything on these well though out and well tested boats and I presume my old Maramu has sailed the World already without these changes 😊

So ..... considering other options ....apparently the large spinnaker looking sail lurking in my locker is a balooner. 

How do people use these?

Just in combination with the Genoa as a double headsail rig or also on its own downwind wind (perhaps with the mizzen goose winged) ?

It’s worth pointing out that unfortunately I do not have the Amel furler but a profurl electric number with only 2 luff grooves. So I don’t have the wonderful 3 luff groove independent sail hoisting and lowering option available to most of you lucky chaps! 

My concern with the balooner plus Genoa is that I will be short handed with kids aboard and given my profurl furler would have to hoist and lower the balooner and Genoa on the same halyard Ie unfurl a massive total sail area if I had problems and needed to get sails down. 

Thoughts and hard won experience very much appreciated

Fair winds 

Miles 
Maramu #162
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Halyard Sheave

pepinoamel <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Leo & Wolfgang,


Leo, I can't open the image you attached to your text.  Maybe it's my set up but could you try to upload it onto the photo section?


Wolfgang, your message came without any information.  Did you attach something?  There's nothing with your message.


Thanks.


Gerhard Hoffmann

SY Pepino SM381

Greece
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Halyard Sheave

Wolfgang Weber
 

FYI masttop of Amel 54 #162

Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Halyard Sheave

CW Bill Rouse
 

Gerhard,

You are correct...there is three. I was only referring to the front of the mast.

Sorry if I confused anyo

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 16:35 Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The "third" halyard for a SM will not be on a sheeve integrated into the mast. There will be an external block for the "third" halysrd, and in many cases, if not all, the external block was installed after purchase.

I suspect the reason you were asked for photos is that you asked for 3 mainmast sheeves.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 16:05 mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
[Attachment(s) from mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Gerhard,


Unfortunately, I could not find my old main mast sheaves to take measurements.  I either threw them out or they got misplaced in the frenzy to prepare the boat for the long passage from Martinique to our home port in Deale, MD USA.  I got my replacement sheaves through Amel Caraibes in Martinique.  I was told that they had to order them from Amel HG in La Rochelle.  I was not in the country at the time and I was not directly involved in the purchase, so I really do not know how they were procured.  However, I do know I was charged 29.10 Euros for each sheave. 

My SM Cara only has two (2) sheaves on the Main Mast as Cara does not have a spare halyard rigged. These two sheaves for the Main and the Jib appear to have the same Outside Diameter.  I would guess that they have the same Inside Diameter because they are installed on the same shaft.  However, the Main Halyard is 10mm OD a nd the Jib Halyard is 12mm OD.  I am not familiar with the Mizzen Mast sheaves. 

I have attached two different pictures of the sheaves installed at the top of the Main Mast.  One is the new sheaves after installation and the other one is the old sheaves taken during the survey.

I hope this helps and hopefully the next person that gets replacement sheave or removes their old ones will post pics and measurements for the rest of us!

Mark

---In amelyachtowners@..., <no_reply@...> wrote :

Hi Mark,


I'm just having correspondence with Maud in La Rochelle regarding the masthead sheaves.  I'd like to order replacements for all the sheaves and Maud is asking for photos which I don't have.  I'd like to avoid going up the mast just for this.  Have you been able to locate your old ones and if so, could you post a picture with dimensions if possible.  I believe there are 3 sheaves on the main mast, 1 for the mainsail, 1 for the jib and 1 for the spare halyard.  The mizzen probably only has 1 for the mainsail.  Do you know if they're all the same dimensions?


Many thanks.


Gerhard Hoffmann

SY Pepino SM381

Greece
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Halyard Sheave

Leopold Hauer
 


Hi Gerhard

Here a drawing i have made from the Jibn Halyard Sheave.



 Leopold Hauer

Yinyang, SM #69


Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 20.04.2018 um 09:43 schrieb pepinoamel <no_reply@...>:

 

Hi Mark & Bill R and all,


Thanks for the photos Mark, I've forwarded one on to Maud and she's checking now to see if she can find them.  I have the same set up with two sheaves.  The third sheave I was talking about is for the halyard for the mainsail.  Has anybody ever changed the sheave for the mainsail halyard?  I believe there might be two - one over the furler foil to accept the halyard on the way up and another one in the middle of the mast to guide the halyard down.  Has anybody any information on this?


Thanks.


Gerhard

SY Pepino SM381

Greece
Re: Jib Halyard Sheave

pepinoamel <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Mark & Bill R and all,


Thanks for the photos Mark, I've forwarded one on to Maud and she's checking now to see if she can find them.  I have the same set up with two sheaves.  The third sheave I was talking about is for the halyard for the mainsail.  Has anybody ever changed the sheave for the mainsail halyard?  I believe there might be two - one over the furler foil to accept the halyard on the way up and another one in the middle of the mast to guide the halyard down.  Has anybody any information on this?


Thanks.


Gerhard

SY Pepino SM381

Greece
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

CW Bill Rouse
 

Pat,

The one I have, I have had a long time and before cruising. 
OR
There may be better ones out there.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 09:21 Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill, I do not have a dedicated breaker, otherwise the power source would be obvious and easy to check . I will have to sort this out myself , and put this thread to bed. Just one last question , can you recommend a wire tracer or tracker , knowing you I am sure you have one.

Thanks,Pat SM #123


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2018 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 
Pat, I am fairly certain that your boat originally came with a manual valve, only...and that the solenoid on your boat was added later by someone. I recall another SM close to your hull number that had no solenoid, only the manual valve. Although I am not 100% sure that boat was unchanged, I believe it was original. In any case, Eric's SM is definitely different from yours. Eric's SM and those later had a dedicated breaker on the 24V panel which had a red light next to it.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970





On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 7:41 AM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Eric, My problem is that I don't know what breaker feeds the switch , as I said I cannot trace the wires back , and yes ," No" meant the light does not come on. I think I will purchase a wire tracker and sort it out . Bill , I have a brown manual switch labeled Gaz for butane and a white switch with a red light recessed in the bulkhead. The backside of the switch in the lazzerette has a plastic cover over it. I have no way of knowing if it is Amel installed or not. It always worked , until it didn't.
Thanks ,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2018 1:44 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 
Hi Pat,
I assume, no, means that the red light does not go on.
Is the circuit breaker a single pole or double pole? 2 or 4 wires.
If it is a single pole you need to measure from the hot side of the breaker to the ground bus.
If it is a double pole you measure across the hot side of the breaker. I would be surprised if there is no DC going to the breaker.
Please let me know what you find.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
 
Eric , I don't have a dedicated breaker for it , nor would expect to with its low amperage. Do you know what breaker it is connected to , I can not trace it as it is in a bundle of probably 40 wires. I would like to find the source to check the connection.
Thanks Again,
Pat SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thu, Apr 19, 2018 2:27 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
I forgot to say that if the red light does not go on . I would put a jumper across the circuit breaker and see if the red light goes on. If it does , then it is the circuit breaker
If the red light goes does go on without jumping the breaker, have someone go to the g as locker and have them put their hand on the solenoid. If they do not feel the solenoid actuate. It is the solenoid.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
< span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> 
Hi Pat,
Does the red light go on when you turn on the switch?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Se nt: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
 
I am trying to troubleshoot a problem . My propane switch failed to deliver propane , I assumed it was the solenoid , but I don't detect electric to the back of the switch. Above the galley there is what looks like a heat sink with GAS written next to it . Is this the source of electric to the switch? There is 24v in and out. Can someone tell me the power source, its hard to trace the wires , actually impossible, I  wish they were labeled.I think I need to buy a wire tracer , is there one recommended .
Thanks,
Pat SM#123

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

greatketch@...
 

Pat,

I can not add anything to the discussion on the details of the switch, since my boat has been retrofitted there, but I I had a list of "tools for a boat, and included the wire tracer I have used to good effect.


Bill Kinney
Benett Harbor, Cat Island, Bahamas
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill, I do not have a dedicated breaker, otherwise the power source would be obvious and easy to check . I will have to sort this out myself , and put this thread to bed. Just one last question , can you recommend a wire tracer or tracker , knowing you I am sure you have one.
Thanks,Pat SM #123


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2018 8:32 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 
Pat, I am fairly certain that your boat originally came with a manual valve, only...and that the solenoid on your boat was added later by someone. I recall another SM close to your hull number that had no solenoid, only the manual valve. Although I am not 100% sure that boat was unchanged, I believe it was original. In any case, Eric's SM is definitely different from yours. Eric's SM and those later had a dedicated breaker on the 24V panel which had a red light next to it.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970





On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 7:41 AM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Eric, My problem is that I don't know what breaker feeds the switch , as I said I cannot trace the wires back , and yes ," No" meant the light does not come on. I think I will purchase a wire tracker and sort it out . Bill , I have a brown manual switch labeled Gaz for butane and a white switch with a red light recessed in the bulkhead. The backside of the switch in the lazzerette has a plastic cover over it. I have no way of knowing if it is Amel installed or not. It always worked , until it didn't.
Thanks ,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2018 1:44 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 
Hi Pat,
I assume, no, means that the red light does not go on.
Is the circuit breaker a single pole or double pole? 2 or 4 wires.
If it is a single pole you need to measure from the hot side of the breaker to the ground bus.
If it is a double pole you measure across the hot side of the breaker. I would be surprised if there is no DC going to the breaker.
Please let me know what you find.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
 
Eric , I don't have a dedicated breaker for it , nor would expect to with its low amperage. Do you know what breaker it is connected to , I can not trace it as it is in a bundle of probably 40 wires. I would like to find the source to check the connection.
Thanks Again,
Pat SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 19, 2018 2:27 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
I forgot to say that if the red light does not go on . I would put a jumper across the circuit breaker and see if the red light goes on. If it does , then it is the circuit breaker
If the red light goes does go on without jumping the breaker, have someone go to the g as locker and have them put their hand on the solenoid. If they do not feel the solenoid actuate. It is the solenoid.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
< span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> 
Hi Pat,
Does the red light go on when you turn on the switch?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Se nt: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
 
I am trying to troubleshoot a problem . My propane switch failed to deliver propane , I assumed it was the solenoid , but I don't detect electric to the back of the switch. Above the galley there is what looks like a heat sink with GAS written next to it . Is this the source of electric to the switch? There is 24v in and out. Can someone tell me the power source, its hard to trace the wires , actually impossible, I  wish they were labeled.I think I need to buy a wire tracer , is there one recommended .
Thanks,
Pat SM#123

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

CW Bill Rouse
 

Pat, I am fairly certain that your boat originally came with a manual valve, only...and that the solenoid on your boat was added later by someone. I recall another SM close to your hull number that had no solenoid, only the manual valve. Although I am not 100% sure that boat was unchanged, I believe it was original. In any case, Eric's SM is definitely different from yours. Eric's SM and those later had a dedicated breaker on the 24V panel which had a red light next to it.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970





On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 7:41 AM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Eric, My problem is that I don't know what breaker feeds the switch , as I said I cannot trace the wires back , and yes ," No" meant the light does not come on. I think I will purchase a wire tracker and sort it out . Bill , I have a brown manual switch labeled Gaz for butane and a white switch with a red light recessed in the bulkhead. The backside of the switch in the lazzerette has a plastic cover over it. I have no way of knowing if it is Amel installed or not. It always worked , until it didn't.

Thanks ,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2018 1:44 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 
Hi Pat,
I assume, no, means that the red light does not go on.
Is the circuit breaker a single pole or double pole? 2 or 4 wires.
If it is a single pole you need to measure from the hot side of the breaker to the ground bus.
If it is a double pole you measure across the hot side of the breaker. I would be surprised if there is no DC going to the breaker.
Please let me know what you find.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
 
Eric , I don't have a dedicated breaker for it , nor would expect to with its low amperage. Do you know what breaker it is connected to , I can not trace it as it is in a bundle of probably 40 wires. I would like to find the source to check the connection.
Thanks Again,
Pat SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 19, 2018 2:27 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
I forgot to say that if the red light does not go on . I would put a jumper across the circuit breaker and see if the red light goes on. If it does , then it is the circuit breaker
If the red light goes does go on without jumping the breaker, have someone go to the g as locker and have them put their hand on the solenoid. If they do not feel the solenoid actuate. It is the solenoid.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
< span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black;"> 
Hi Pat,
Does the red light go on when you turn on the switch?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Se nt: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
 
I am trying to troubleshoot a problem . My propane switch failed to deliver propane , I assumed it was the solenoid , but I don't detect electric to the back of the switch. Above the galley there is what looks like a heat sink with GAS written next to it . Is this the source of electric to the switch? There is 24v in and out. Can someone tell me the power source, its hard to trace the wires , actually impossible, I  wish they were labeled.I think I need to buy a wire tracer , is there one recommended .
Thanks,
Pat SM#123
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

Patrick McAneny
 

Eric, My problem is that I don't know what breaker feeds the switch , as I said I cannot trace the wires back , and yes ," No" meant the light does not come on. I think I will purchase a wire tracker and sort it out . Bill , I have a brown manual switch labeled Gaz for butane and a white switch with a red light recessed in the bulkhead. The backside of the switch in the lazzerette has a plastic cover over it. I have no way of knowing if it is Amel installed or not. It always worked , until it didn't.
Thanks ,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2018 1:44 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 
Hi Pat,
I assume, no, means that the red light does not go on.
Is the circuit breaker a single pole or double pole? 2 or 4 wires.
If it is a single pole you need to measure from the hot side of the breaker to the ground bus.
If it is a double pole you measure across the hot side of the breaker. I would be surprised if there is no DC going to the breaker.
Please let me know what you find.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
 
Eric , I don't have a dedicated breaker for it , nor would expect to with its low amperage. Do you know what breaker it is connected to , I can not trace it as it is in a bundle of probably 40 wires. I would like to find the source to check the connection.
Thanks Again,
Pat SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thu, Apr 19, 2018 2:27 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
I forgot to say that if the red light does not go on . I would put a jumper across the circuit breaker and see if the red light goes on. If it does , then it is the circuit breaker
If the red light goes does go on without jumping the breaker, have someone go to the g as locker and have them put their hand on the solenoid. If they do not feel the solenoid actuate. It is the solenoid.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
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Hi Pat,
Does the red light go on when you turn on the switch?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Se nt: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
 
I am trying to troubleshoot a problem . My propane switch failed to deliver propane , I assumed it was the solenoid , but I don't detect electric to the back of the switch. Above the galley there is what looks like a heat sink with GAS written next to it . Is this the source of electric to the switch? There is 24v in and out. Can someone tell me the power source, its hard to trace the wires , actually impossible, I  wish they were labeled.I think I need to buy a wire tracer , is there one recommended .
Thanks,
Pat SM#123
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

eric freedman
 

Hi Pat,

I assume, no, means that the red light does not go on.

Is the circuit breaker a single pole or double pole? 2 or 4 wires.

If it is a single pole you need to measure from the hot side of the breaker to the ground bus.

If it is a double pole you measure across the hot side of the breaker. I would be surprised if there is no DC going to the breaker.

Please let me know what you find.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 

 

Eric , I don't have a dedicated breaker for it , nor would expect to with its low amperage. Do you know what breaker it is connected to , I can not trace it as it is in a bundle of probably 40 wires. I would like to find the source to check the connection.

Thanks Again,

Pat SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thu, Apr 19, 2018 2:27 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 

I forgot to say that if the red light does not go on . I would put a jumper across the circuit breaker and see if the red light goes on. If it does , then it is the circuit breaker

If the red light goes does go on without jumping the breaker, have someone go to the gas locker and have them put their hand on the solenoid. If they do not feel the solenoid actuate. It is the solenoid.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 

 

Hi Pat,

Does the red light go on when you turn on the switch?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 

 

I am trying to troubleshoot a problem . My propane switch failed to deliver propane , I assumed it was the solenoid , but I don't detect electric to the back of the switch. Above the galley there is what looks like a heat sink with GAS written next to it . Is this the source of electric to the switch? There is 24v in and out. Can someone tell me the power source, its hard to trace the wires , actually impossible, I  wish they were labeled.I think I need to buy a wire tracer , is there one recommended .

Thanks,

Pat SM#123
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Jib Halyard Sheave [2 Attachments]

CW Bill Rouse
 

The "third" halyard for a SM will not be on a sheeve integrated into the mast. There will be an external block for the "third" halysrd, and in many cases, if not all, the external block was installed after purchase.

I suspect the reason you were asked for photos is that you asked for 3 mainmast sheeves.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 16:05 mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
[Attachment(s) from mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Gerhard,


Unfortunately, I could not find my old main mast sheaves to take measurements.  I either threw them out or they got misplaced in the frenzy to prepare the boat for the long passage from Martinique to our home port in Deale, MD USA.  I got my replacement sheaves through Amel Caraibes in Martinique.  I was told that they had to order them from Amel HG in La Rochelle.  I was not in the country at the time and I was not directly involved in the purchase, so I really do not know how they were procured.  However, I do know I was charged 29.10 Euros for each sheave. 

My SM Cara only has two (2) sheaves on the Main Mast as Cara does not have a spare halyard rigged. These two sheaves for the Main and the Jib appear to have the same Outside Diameter.  I would guess that they have the same Inside Diameter because they are installed on the same shaft.  However, the Main Halyard is 10mm OD a nd the Jib Halyard is 12mm OD.  I am not familiar with the Mizzen Mast sheaves. 

I have attached two different pictures of the sheaves installed at the top of the Main Mast.  One is the new sheaves after installation and the other one is the old sheaves taken during the survey.

I hope this helps and hopefully the next person that gets replacement sheave or removes their old ones will post pics and measurements for the rest of us!

Mark

---In amelyachtowners@..., <no_reply@...> wrote :

Hi Mark,


I'm just having correspondence with Maud in La Rochelle regarding the masthead sheaves.  I'd like to order replacements for all the sheaves and Maud is asking for photos which I don't have.  I'd like to avoid going up the mast just for this.  Have you been able to locate your old ones and if so, could you post a picture with dimensions if possible.  I believe there are 3 sheaves on the main mast, 1 for the mainsail, 1 for the jib and 1 for the spare halyard.  The mizzen probably only has 1 for the mainsail.  Do you know if they're all the same dimensions?


Many thanks.


Gerhard Hoffmann

SY Pepino SM381

Greece
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

CW Bill Rouse
 

Eric and Pat,

Amel made different versions of the solenoid gas  control over years. They also made a manual gas valve in early SMs. 

I know y'all are comparing apples to oranges.

Hopefully Pat can get some input from a SM owner near his hull number. I am 99% sure that Pat will be told his SM came with a manual gas valve in the galley on the bulkhead wall separating the engine room. 

Pat, I think you are trouble shooting a previous owner modification, and if so, good luck.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 14:43 Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Eric , I don't have a dedicated breaker for it , nor would expect to with its low amperage. Do you know what breaker it is connected to , I can not trace it as it is in a bundle of probably 40 wires. I would like to find the source to check the connection.

Thanks Again,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thu, Apr 19, 2018 2:27 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch

 
I forgot to say that if the red light does not go on . I would put a jumper across the circuit breaker and see if the red light goes on. If it does , then it is the circuit breaker
If the red light goes does go on without jumping the breaker, have someone go to the gas locker and have them put their hand on the solenoid. If they do not feel the solenoid actuate. It is the solenoid.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 2:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
 
Hi Pat,
Does the red light go on when you turn on the switch?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 8:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane switch
 
 
I am trying to troubleshoot a problem . My propane switch failed to deliver propane , I assumed it was the solenoid , but I don't detect electric to the back of the switch. Above the galley there is what looks like a heat sink with GAS written next to it . Is this the source of electric to the switch? There is 24v in and out. Can someone tell me the power source, its hard to trace the wires , actually impossible, I  wish they were labeled.I think I need to buy a wire tracer , is there one recommended .
Thanks,
Pat SM#123
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