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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Steering Rack Adjustment

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Eric,

Thanks for checking. Interesting about the nylocks. It must be one of the many changes Amel made over time, as I have what appear original cap nuts with lock washers on the front side. I think I’ll add a bit of locktite as well. 

Aloha,

Steve

On Aug 12, 2018, at 05:49, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Hi Steve,
I just examined mine. The racks are held in place with studs and nylocks.
The racks are solid with no wiggle room.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Sm 376 kimberlite

On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 11:05 AM, flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

We are just finishing up with final adjustments after replacing our steering racks, pinion, and steering cables, and have a question about how tight the racks should be. The racks are held together by 2 threaded studs with 2 cap nuts facing the galley. Should these 2 cap nuts be tightened enough so the racks do not move at all, or be a bit looser which allows the racks to scissor back an forth a little? I can't find anything written about this, and I'd appreciate it if some of you could look at your steering racks and let me know if they are a little loose, or if you are unable to move them. My vote is for very tight with no movement, but would like to know how they are adjusted on some other boats.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Ko Olina, Hawaii




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ebersprecher. Heater

Arthur Sundqvist
 

Thank you. Eric!
I see forward to the info and pictures from you. I also think is best that s PRO installs it.

SM435, Vista

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12 aug. 2018 kl. 17:44 skrev eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Arthur,
I had an Espar heater installed in Kimberlite.
To date I have done everything on Kimberlite including changing the engine  mounts.

Years ago I purchased the pieces for the install of the heater which are unique to Amel, particularly the special exhaust with attached pipe, and the exhaust heat shield. They are no longer available. I found a fellow in England that sells the complete Espar unit and install kit on eBay. It got here in 3 days and was factory sealed and 1/2 the price here in the USA.

Over the years I have crawled through many cockpit lockers examined the installs from Amel and taken photos.

When i received the unit i took one look at the wiring harness, and the exhaust system and decide that I should have someone who is very familiar with the unit install it.

He installed it in a day and the install was perfect He is a certified Espar installer here on the north fork of Long Island.

I had previously contacted Ocean Options in Newport to install the unit and they said the Amel factory install is totally incorrect. Amel has probably installed more units than ocean options. I went with the Amel way.

Needless to say it is an ambitious project, and the thought of drilling a hole in the side of Kimberlite gave me pause.

I would look for a certified installer.
If you want some photos please send me your email address.
'Fair Wnds,
Eric
Sm 376 Kimberlite

Fair Winds,
Eric
On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 05:59 AM, 'arthur@...' arthur@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

We want to install an heater in our SM2000. Does anyone have done this? Is the installation documented in some way or form. Please you who know could you share you insights.
Fair winds

Arthur Sundqvist
Vista , SM435

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Steering Rack Adjustment

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ebersprecher. Heater

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New ultrasonic DST sesnor from AIRMAR

 

Alan,

And it's NMEA 2000, so not a plug and play replacement for failed B&
G sonic speed.



Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Aug 12, 2018, 08:16 dbv_au@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill,

[sorry, the earlier message 'got away' from me before I could properly complete.]

When our Sonic Speed failed, we regained Boat Speed by replacing the preexisting depth-only sensor in the underfloor compartment outside the forward head with a paddle-wheel DST800.  The DST800 uses a 51mm (2") form factor, and was a drop-in replacement.

The UDST800 is also a 51mm (2") fitting.  Noting however that the UDST800 processor requires a separate power supply, and the specs sheet says that this is 12VDC.

Cheers,

David
Perigee, SM#396
Spanish Water, Curaçao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Ebersprecher. Heater

Arthur Sundqvist
 

I have 3 different ac and heater in front aft and saloon.

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12 aug. 2018 kl. 14:58 skrev arno.luijten@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

If I were you I would select a Webasto diesel heater. They are virually the same devices as the Eberspächer but from what I recall the electronics on the Webasto are at bit better. Also they have a more spread dealer network. On our boat Amel installed a Webasto Air-Top 5.5 kW heater. These things are a pig to install after the boat has been build as you need a lot of cables, hoses and (isolated) ducts. So careful planning is required. I would ask a fellow Super Maramu with a factory installed heater about the exact routing of the ducts to avoid inventing the wheel twice.

Regarfs,

Arno
Luna, A54-121


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ebersprecher. Heater

Arthur Sundqvist
 

Yes I have...

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12 aug. 2018 kl. 16:18 skrev eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi,
Do you have the forced fresh air syatem?
Fair winds,
Eric
SM 376 Kimberlte


On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 05:59 AM, 'arthur@...' arthur@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

We want to install an heater in our SM2000. Does anyone have done this? Is the installation documented in some way or form. Please you who know could you share you insights.
Fair winds

Arthur Sundqvist
Vista , SM435

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Steering Rack Adjustment

Stephen Davis
 

We are just finishing up with final adjustments after replacing our steering racks, pinion, and steering cables, and have a question about how tight the racks should be. The racks are held together by 2 threaded studs with 2 cap nuts facing the galley. Should these 2 cap nuts be tightened enough so the racks do not move at all, or be a bit looser which allows the racks to scissor back an forth a little? I can't find anything written about this, and I'd appreciate it if some of you could look at your steering racks and let me know if they are a little loose, or if you are unable to move them. My vote is for very tight with no movement, but would like to know how they are adjusted on some other boats.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Ko Olina, Hawaii




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ebersprecher. Heater

eric freedman
 


Re: Battery Compartment Explosion

Mark Isaac
 

Thanks to the person who linked my post to the appropriate conversation.

Yes, they are marine deep cycle flooded lead acid batteries.

Bill, thanks for what I am taking home from this: no need to look further for problems with the cells or system and keep the terminals tight.

Mark Isaac
SM391, Lulu
South Freeport, Maine


Re: Generator exhaust

Craig Briggs
 

MIchael,
Are you installing a name brand generator (Onan, NorthernLights,etc) or are you putting together components yourself? If name brand the installation instructions should certainly cover this clearly and it depends on the genset size. 
For example, the older NL 6/4.8kw (which has a Kubota 10hp engine) calls for 40mm throughout and the exhaust elbow is 40mm (the new 6/5kw model has 38mm). Their 12/10kw with a 20hp engine has a 51mm elbow. In general, though, you don't want to introduce a reducer.  If the exhaust elbow is 50mm, then carry that through, unless the manufacturer specifically calls for the reducer (to increase exhaust pressure - unlikely).
Craig, SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mfw642000@...> wrote :

Hi, I am installing a new genset into a super maramu 2000.
The engine is a kubota with a 50mm hose going to the vetas water lock. On the outlet of the water lock the hose reduces to 40mm. This is how the original is installed. It has a reducer 50 to 40mm glued  into the water lock.

Can anyone help with the reasons why the hose is reduced in diameter? 
The generator supplier  advised to have a 50mm hose going on the water lock outlet. 
Thanks 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New ultrasonic DST sesnor from AIRMAR

SV Perigee
 

Hi Bill,

[sorry, the earlier message 'got away' from me before I could properly complete.]

When our Sonic Speed failed, we regained Boat Speed by replacing the preexisting depth-only sensor in the underfloor compartment outside the forward head with a paddle-wheel DST800.  The DST800 uses a 51mm (2") form factor, and was a drop-in replacement.

The UDST800 is also a 51mm (2") fitting.  Noting however that the UDST800 processor requires a separate power supply, and the specs sheet says that this is 12VDC.

Cheers,

David
Perigee, SM#396
Spanish Water, Curaçao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New ultrasonic DST sesnor from AIRMAR

 

Alan,

Interesting. I cannot remember...is the SM Amel-installed B&G Depth Transducer 2" as this combo is also 2"? If so, this is an excellent option when the sonic speed sensors fail.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 7:50 AM dbv_au@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

UDST800 Ultrasonic Smart Sensor


http://www.airmar.com/productdescription.html?id=208


UDST800 Ultrasonic Smart Sensor


UDST800 Ultrasonic Smart Sensor



Re: Ebersprecher. Heater

Arno Luijten
 

If I were you I would select a Webasto diesel heater. They are virually the same devices as the Eberspächer but from what I recall the electronics on the Webasto are at bit better. Also they have a more spread dealer network. On our boat Amel installed a Webasto Air-Top 5.5 kW heater. These things are a pig to install after the boat has been build as you need a lot of cables, hoses and (isolated) ducts. So careful planning is required. I would ask a fellow Super Maramu with a factory installed heater about the exact routing of the ducts to avoid inventing the wheel twice.

Regarfs,

Arno
Luna, A54-121


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Battery Compartment Explosion

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Alan,
did you have to modify 175A Leece Neville engine alternator (I suppose original one) coupled to the Next Step II regulator ?
Many Thanks
Giovanni TESTA
sv EUTIKIA SM 428


Re: Battery Compartment Explosion

greatketch@...
 

Mark,

Sorry to hear about your excitement, but glad the only damage was to the boat.

I assume you have standard flooded lead acid batteries--if not--then things are strange... 

Just from normal charging, hydrogen is being generated by the batteries.  It would be a bad assumption that a passive vent is sufficient to ALWAYS keep the battery box hydrogen concentration below the level that will ignite--given a spark. The problem is that hydrogen has such a very low flammable limit in air, between 2% and 6% depending on how you define it.  Certainly local concentrations of H2 in the box could get that high in normal operation.

And a loose battery cable certainly can create the needed spark...  

Moral of the story...  battery cables need to be kept tight, and any kind of equipment added inside the battery box need to be ignition protected--or better yet mounted outside the box.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA







New ultrasonic DST sesnor from AIRMAR

SV Perigee
 

UDST800 Ultrasonic Smart Sensor


http://www.airmar.com/productdescription.html?id=208


UDST800 Ultrasonic Smart Sensor


UDST800 Ultrasonic Smart Sensor



Clothes dryer on a A54

Arno Luijten
 

For those who are interested.

I just removed the dryer from the forward head. This was because it tripped the RCD breaker because of some grounding fault.

Removing is quite the puzzle. The shelf that sits on top is screwed down with two screws in the back and is velcro-ed to the top of the dryer. However loosening this does not mean you will be able to remove it. The nice piece of wood that decorates the shelve prevents it from getting out. By feeling the vinyl at the back you can spot two screws that are underneath the vinyl. These hold the wood. By pushing a screwdriver (Pozidriv) though the vinyl you can unscrew them. Then the wood is only retained by some double sided sticky tape.
Now also remove the small shelf in the back. It's held in place with two (visible) screws.

Next you need to go under the sink. There is a access hatch held in place with two screws. You can just move this to the back to gain access. Now you will see (when you dive deep enough) the airhose and the two knurled knobs that hold the thing in place.
Remove the knobs and the hoseclamp. Now put a thick blanket over the sink to protect it. You can just tilt the dryer foreward to have it lean on the sink. It helps to remove the tap first.
Now you can access the innards from the back and top by removing a lot of screws. Do not remove the back panel itself, only the smaller cover that sits on the back cover.

You cannot remove the dryer from the heads altogether unless you take it completely apart. Both the hatch and the door opening are too narrow. Amel actually cut the lower back corner off the dryer-housing to make it fit the space available. They also re-routed the hose from the back to the bottom. Quite the creativity there.

I found the heating element to be busted, it had a short circuit between the poles and the housing.
I think the dryer brand Minea is no longer sold but it is also sold as "White Knight" model C39AW. This is still for sale in the UK. On Ebay you can find loads of heating element replacements for this thing. I'm going to order two of them just to be sure the first one does not break down anymore.

Regards,

Arno

Luna A54-121


Re: Generator exhaust

greatketch@...
 

Michael,

I can not give you an authoritative insight into Amel's reasons for reducing the size of the hose, but...

The total volume of the exhaust hose is a design criteria for the water lock.  The box needs to be able to catch and hold at least one hose full of water without overflowing back to the engine.  If the hose run is long, then they might have needed to neck it down a bit to keep the volumes matched.

If the horsepower of your new genset is equal or less than the original installation, then I would match the exhaust system as originally designed.  If your new genset engine has higher horsepower rating than the original, I'd have an expert on engine installations look it over to be sure the exhaust system is sufficient.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mfw642000@...> wrote :

Hi, I am installing a new genset into a super maramu 2000.
The engine is a kubota with a 50mm hose going to the vetas water lock. On the outlet of the water lock the hose reduces to 40mm. This is how the original is installed. It has a reducer 50 to 40mm glued  into the water lock.

Can anyone help with the reasons why the hose is reduced in diameter? 
The generator supplier  advised to have a 50mm hose going on the water lock outlet. 
Thanks 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Sunbrella

Alan Leslie
 

In our part of the world, ordinary domestic bleach now contains not only sodium hypochlorite but also sodium hydroxide...this is the same formulation as another product called Exit Mould that sells for something like 5 times the price of "bleach"
This product has to be the ultimate mildew killer...we use it for cleaning the cabin top, acrylic fabrics, the "blue floors"....wonderful...
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Port Havannah, Vanuatu  

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