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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sunbrella

Paul Osterberg
 

Bill!
Is there any Magic “corrosion X” type product to use to avoid mold? Treatment with white winneger? Or....
Paul


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sunbrella

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank,s will try that
Paul


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sunbrella

 

Paul, et al,

I offer my comments for everyone as a former insider in the furniture business: 
Sunbrella is made  from 100% solution dyed acrylic. Solution dyed means the fibers are dyed before the fabric is woven. 

There are several knock-offs of Sunbrella brand fabrics and some are from China. And, Sunbrella manufacturers fabrics that are not suitable for Marine applications. Be very observant when purchasing Sunbrella Marine fabrics because many installers have moved to knock-offs to be able to offer a cheaper price. In a way, the installers are not the only ones to blame for this because many of their customers are only interested in price.

Cleaning Mold: 

If it is Sunbrella Marine fabric, you can:
  1. Brush off loose dirt/mold.
  2. Spray on a cleaning solution of one fourth cup dishwashing liquid and one cup clothes bleach (Clorox) per one gallon water.
  3. Use a soft bristle brush to clean.
  4. Allow cleaning solution to soak into the fabric.
  5. Rinse thoroughly until all residue is removed.
  6. Air dry.
  7. To waterproof and protect use 303 Fabric Guard, Upholstery Protector, Water and Stain Repellent (It is like CorrosionX, but for fabrics😀)



Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:46 AM 'Kaplan,Andre' kaplan@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Paul

Our entire cockpit is covered with sunbrella. My experience is that a bleach based spray cleaner will fade and remove mildew stains within an hour... the maker of the cockpit enclosure told me sunbrella is resistant to bleach. You’ll need some type of fabric guard to help make older sunbrella water resistant.
BR
Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango#7188


On Aug 11, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Paul,
Best thing I've found is 303 Fabric Guard.  They make a mold and mildew cleaner and multipurpose cleaner, too.  It's expensive, but it's what every body who sells Sunbrella recommends.  Once it's clean and dry, apply the Fabric Guard, and reapply every 3-6 months depending on how much it's exposed.
Nothing makes it waterPROOF, but it will help keep the stitch holes from leaking.  If there are places where water accumulates on top of the fabric, the weight will stretch the fibers and cause leaking, so making sure it drains properly will help too.
Kent
SM243
Kristy



From: "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:57 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sunbrella

 
We have some issues with our spray hood and bimini made from Sunbrella (3 years old). It has developed a lot of stain from mold and now it starts to leak in water especially around the supporting SS tubing.
Three questions
1. Any suggestion of how to wash it to get rid of the mold stain?
2. Any suggested treatment to avoid mold coming back
3. what is  the best treatment to make it water proof again?

Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sunbrella

Kaplan,Andre
 

Paul
Our entire cockpit is covered with sunbrella. My experience is that a bleach based spray cleaner will fade and remove mildew stains within an hour... the maker of the cockpit enclosure told me sunbrella is resistant to bleach. You’ll need some type of fabric guard to help make older sunbrella water resistant.
BR
Andre Kaplan
Renaissance 2000
Mango#7188


On Aug 11, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Paul,
Best thing I've found is 303 Fabric Guard.  They make a mold and mildew cleaner and multipurpose cleaner, too.  It's expensive, but it's what every body who sells Sunbrella recommends.  Once it's clean and dry, apply the Fabric Guard, and reapply every 3-6 months depending on how much it's exposed.
Nothing makes it waterPROOF, but it will help keep the stitch holes from leaking.  If there are places where water accumulates on top of the fabric, the weight will stretch the fibers and cause leaking, so making sure it drains properly will help too.
Kent
SM243
Kristy



From: "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:57 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sunbrella

 
We have some issues with our spray hood and bimini made from Sunbrella (3 years old). It has developed a lot of stain from mold and now it starts to leak in water especially around the supporting SS tubing.
Three questions
1. Any suggestion of how to wash it to get rid of the mold stain?
2. Any suggested treatment to avoid mold coming back
3. what is  the best treatment to make it water proof again?

Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259




Used Anchor for sale in St. Thomas

hodginsbob@...
 

I have a used anchor for sale in St. Thomas. Rocna 40 kg, 88 lb. galvanized. There are a few small spots of rust. Mostly in very good condition. I will deliver to your boat in St. Thomas. $900. or best offer. Email me direct for photos or info, or call local phone 340-244-8170.
Bob Hodgins
Gallivant
Amel 54 #31
currently on the hard in Raiatea



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sunbrella

karkauai
 

Hi Paul,
Best thing I've found is 303 Fabric Guard.  They make a mold and mildew cleaner and multipurpose cleaner, too.  It's expensive, but it's what every body who sells Sunbrella recommends.  Once it's clean and dry, apply the Fabric Guard, and reapply every 3-6 months depending on how much it's exposed.
Nothing makes it waterPROOF, but it will help keep the stitch holes from leaking.  If there are places where water accumulates on top of the fabric, the weight will stretch the fibers and cause leaking, so making sure it drains properly will help too.
Kent
SM243
Kristy



From: "osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:57 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sunbrella

 
We have some issues with our spray hood and bimini made from Sunbrella (3 years old). It has developed a lot of stain from mold and now it starts to leak in water especially around the supporting SS tubing.
Three questions
1. Any suggestion of how to wash it to get rid of the mold stain?
2. Any suggested treatment to avoid mold coming back
3. what is  the best treatment to make it water proof again?

Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259




Sunbrella

Paul Osterberg
 

We have some issues with our spray hood and bimini made from Sunbrella (3 years old). It has developed a lot of stain from mold and now it starts to leak in water especially around the supporting SS tubing.

Three questions

1. Any suggestion of how to wash it to get rid of the mold stain?

2. Any suggested treatment to avoid mold coming back

3. what is  the best treatment to make it water proof again?


Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Running Rigging

 

I am sure than 12mm vectran is perfect for those tasks.

Regrettably, many of these fibers are trademarked brands and it is near impossible to compare apples to apples.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:42 PM divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Found out some interesting things :

1. I thought Vectran was kevlar...it's  not
2. Spectra and Dyneema are basically the same and both exhibit creep i.e they will stretch permanently under  load.
3. Dynex is an "improved" Spectra that exhibits less creep than Spectra, but is much more expensive.
4. Vectran has strength similar to kevlar and exhibits very low creep.

12mm Vectran is what I have on Elyse for the main outhaul.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 
Port Havannah, Vanuatu 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail)

James Cromie
 

I was told that they are available from Amel now, as I had inquired several months ago and Maude just got back to me in July indicating the price and availability. Not sure how many she had. Due to price, I held off on getting them!

James


On Aug 10, 2018, at 11:28 AM, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I was able to get these sheaves from Amel for my genoa car a few years ago.
However with the stainless screws, we had to hacksaw through the sheaves.
Did Maud give you any idea as to when they might produce them again? I would like to have a spare.
Fair Winds,
Eric
SM 376 Kimberlite



On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 10:58 AM, jlm@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 
[Attachment(s) from jlm@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Bonjour,

On my Super Maramu 2000 I have the two pulley cracked ! (they are maked "AMEL")

Amel have no delivery time for this spare part .......

It seams that I am not the only one with this problem ....

Did any one of you solved this without AMEL part ?

Merci

JL MERTZ

Cottonbay.fr


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drawer/cupboard pulls

Patrick McAneny
 

Kent, The safety pin is a good idea, I will try that,as I have been unsuccessful finding the springs locally. If these handles were done in aluminum ,they could be painted with a chrome finish as well as the plastic ones. I will want a few when its decided on which material you are ordering.I will probably give you a call next week about the St. Micheal meet, prior to posting the list of attendees .
Thanks,
Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sat, Aug 11, 2018 7:43 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drawer/cupboard pulls

 
Hi Pat,
My 3D printer has offered to do the design work for free on the 3 parts that comprise the latch mechanism. He will work up a per piece price as I don’t think we’ll have a larger order for these.

I used a stainless steel safety pin and cut it to size a few years ago. It has worked fine since then.

Hi to Diane.
Kent


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Running Rigging

Alan Leslie
 

Found out some interesting things :
1. I thought Vectran was kevlar...it's  not
2. Spectra and Dyneema are basically the same and both exhibit creep i.e they will stretch permanently under  load.
3. Dynex is an "improved" Spectra that exhibits less creep than Spectra, but is much more expensive.
4. Vectran has strength similar to kevlar and exhibits very low creep.

12mm Vectran is what I have on Elyse for the main outhaul.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 
Port Havannah, Vanuatu 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail) [2 Attachments]

Alan Leslie
 

If it works, I would like a complete set - 4 pieces, please also.
Best
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drawer/cupboard pulls

karkauai
 

The prices I’ve gotten from my 3D printer and from Mark are for the handles only.  The printer has offered to do the 3D design work for the latch mechanisms for free and will get us a price for the 3 separate pieces (not including springs) depending on how many we want.  So far there are desires for about 40 pieces of the latch mechanism and 110 handles, mostly the black ABS plastic.

Kent
SM243
Kristy

On Aug 10, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We'd be interested in 2 in aluminum if I they also include the latching mechanism (inside the drawer).  If it's just the handle, then we'll pass.

Thanks,
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:02 AM Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dan
So far, the consensus seems to be for Black ABS plastic. See Mark’s comments in a recent post about the look of the aluminum ones.

I will put you on the list for aluminum, and after hearing from others for a few more days, will pass that on to Mark. He says the cost for unanodized aluminum is somewhere in the neighborhood of $14 US, $18 if anodized; $7 US for black ABS.

Please let me know by personal email
(karkauai “at” yahoo “dot” com)
if you want any black ABS plastic handles or latch mechanisms.


Kent
SM 243
Kristy

On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:59 PM, danb.taylor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We would be interested in 10 aluminum.

Dan
SM116



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM Running Rigging

 

Alan,

I suggest 12mm Dyneema core double braid Polyester outer cover.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:28 AM divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

12 mm kevlar is it....

sans acune doubt
Thanks Bill for the confirmation
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Port Vila, Vanuatu



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail) [2 Attachments]

karkauai
 

If it is satisfactory, I’d like a pair (4 pieces), too.
Thanks!

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Aug 10, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Kelly Ran naryllek@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail) [2 Attachments]

James Cromie
 

Amel sells the spare sheaves (they are two - piece pairs for each sheave) for 202 Euro a pair.  I was told that they are available now when I inquired of Maude in La Rochelle recently.   

However, I am interested in sourcing them somewhere else if they can be made more affordable and out of stainless.   

Kelly - I’d be very interested to hear how your prototype comes out!  Please do keep us posted. 

-James
SM #347

On Aug 10, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Kelly Ran naryllek@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

[Attachment(s) from Kelly Ran included below]

Salut,

We have the same problem with one of ours.
I modeled the pulley, and we are having a test unit printed out of 316 stainless. (See attached.) My guess is that it will take a couple of iterations to get this part completely right. Will let you know how it turns out.

Kelly + Ryan
SM233 Iteration 
Boston


On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 10:58 AM, jlm@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
[Attachment(s) from jlm@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Bonjour,

On my Super Maramu 2000 I have the two pulley cracked ! (they are maked "AMEL")

Amel have no delivery time for this spare part .......

It seams that I am not the only one with this problem ....

Did any one of you solved this without AMEL part ?

Merci

JL MERTZ

Cottonbay.fr






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail) [2 Attachments]

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

I friend of me will try to print the pulley on a 3D print unit .....

I hope it will be a good solution .... I test it next week (2 * 24h work !)

Jean-Luc

CottonBay




Le 10/08/2018 à 17:20, Kelly Ran naryllek@... [amelyachtowners] a écrit :
 
Salut,

We have the same problem with one of ours.
I modeled the pulley, and we are having a test unit printed out of 316 stainless. (See attached.) My guess is that it will take a couple of iterations to get this part completely right. Will let you know how it turns out.

Kelly + Ryan
SM233 Iteration 
Boston


On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 10:58 AM, jlm@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
[Attachment(s) from jlm@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Bonjour,

On my Super Maramu 2000 I have the two pulley cracked ! (they are maked "AMEL")

Amel have no delivery time for this spare part .......

It seams that I am not the only one with this problem ....

Did any one of you solved this without AMEL part ?

Merci

JL MERTZ

Cottonbay.fr




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail) [1 Attachment]

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drawer/cupboard pulls

Ryan Meador
 

We'd be interested in 2 in aluminum if I they also include the latching mechanism (inside the drawer).  If it's just the handle, then we'll pass.

Thanks,
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:02 AM Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dan
So far, the consensus seems to be for Black ABS plastic. See Mark’s comments in a recent post about the look of the aluminum ones.

I will put you on the list for aluminum, and after hearing from others for a few more days, will pass that on to Mark. He says the cost for unanodized aluminum is somewhere in the neighborhood of $14 US, $18 if anodized; $7 US for black ABS.

Please let me know by personal email
(karkauai “at” yahoo “dot” com)
if you want any black ABS plastic handles or latch mechanisms.


Kent
SM 243
Kristy

On Aug 9, 2018, at 9:59 PM, danb.taylor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We would be interested in 10 aluminum.

Dan
SM116



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toe pulley (headsail) [1 Attachment]

Kelly Ran
 

Salut,

We have the same problem with one of ours.
I modeled the pulley, and we are having a test unit printed out of 316 stainless. (See attached.) My guess is that it will take a couple of iterations to get this part completely right. Will let you know how it turns out.

Kelly + Ryan
SM233 Iteration 
Boston


On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 10:58 AM, jlm@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
[Attachment(s) from jlm@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Bonjour,

On my Super Maramu 2000 I have the two pulley cracked ! (they are maked "AMEL")

Amel have no delivery time for this spare part .......

It seams that I am not the only one with this problem ....

Did any one of you solved this without AMEL part ?

Merci

JL MERTZ

Cottonbay.fr


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