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Re: For Sale, Super Maramu # 180

tango708@...
 

Hello Amel Owners and those who want to be,
Anni Bea True is available for sale and is now in the Annapolis area and available for viewing.  Interested parties may contact me via phone 206.841.9556 or by email at wtstout at mac dot com.

Will Stout
Anni Bea True, SM 180


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electrolux oven door

karkauai
 

Wow!  Where were you John?  Other conditions? Wind? Wave height and period? Overpowered?

Glad you and yours and Annie are okay.  Must’ve been quite a scare!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Boots for spreaders

James Alton
 

Bill,

   You don’t miss much.  (grin)   I wonder sometimes when I am slatting in light winds if the engine would cost less to cover the same number of miles as the wear and tear on the sails, blocks etc.  I find sailing to be much more enjoyable than motoring so unless there is a good reason to rush I am usually willing to pay the possible extra cost per mile for the peace and quiet.  

   May I ask what your experienced thoughts are on when to motor or not on a long passage?

Thanks,

James Alton
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Jun 20, 2018, at 8:48 AM, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


James,

Exactly. I didn't want to be the one to say it. I have a friend that goes through sails in 5 years, but puts almost zero hours on his engine.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018, 19:44 James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I think that most of the wear on a Genoa from the spreader tips occurs when the winds are light and there is a beam sea running making the boat roll.  Under those conditions the Genoa can rub the spreader tip even with the sheet well eased.  Patches on the Genoa certainly help but a well rounded roller on the spreader tip I think helps even more.  

Best,

James
SV Sueno
Maramu #220

On Jun 19, 2018 5:34 PM, "arthur saftlas art@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

A properly trimmed genoa should not touch a spreader.


"The cure for anything is salt water; sweat, tears, or the sea." - Karen Blixen








Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Older Maramu steering system pics [3 Attachments]

James Alton
 

Miles,

   Sorry that I did not comment on these excellent photos earlier, we have been doing the 70-80 hour work week thing lately so a few things have had to slide a bit.  (grin)  The center photo of the rack is interesting to me since it appears that there is very little wear!  It is very helpful to see how some of these bits come apart since I have not taken the steering system on Sueño apart yet so thanks for sharing.

    Can you tell me if the cables are adjusted at the quadrant end or at the other end?  

Best,

James Alton
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Jun 16, 2018, at 12:12 PM, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

[Attachment(s) from smiles bernard included below]

Hey folks 

I thought these might be of interest for those with older Maramus with the morse red cables and the Morse 401 commander steering system.  

I know it would have helped me to have had these so hope they are helpful for any future service plans

All the best
Miles 


















Electrolux oven door

John Clark
 

Hi All,

   Last March we took a wave and rolled almost 90 degrees to port.  A machete took the opportunity to fly out from under the nav station into the oven door shattering the tempered glass.  If anyone has an unwanted or  old Electrolux marine stove, or if you run across one,  please let me know.   


                 Regards John


John Clark

SV Annie SM 37

 Rodney Bay, St. Lucia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RUDDER ZINC SACRIFICE ANODES - QUESTION

James Alton
 

Miles,

   Both of the rudder zincs on my Maramu thread into the stainless plates.  I would think that having the bolt threaded into the plate would be required to insure that you have a good electrical contact. When you tighten a bolt threaded into a plate, the threads are brought into metal to metal contact due to the tension, with just the bolt in a hole, maybe you have a connection and maybe not since nothing is really pressing the two bits of metal together.   Perhaps the threads stripped out on your rudder and someone in the past thought that they had fixed the problem by drilling through the plates and adding the bolt?  You could check for continuity between the zincs and the internal bonding system to see if you have a good electrical contact.  When I checked my zincs the OHM’s reading was 0.   I am thinking that you would be better off taping the holes for the next size up bolt.  You might in the future need to drill out your zincs to accommodate the larger bolt but it would not be a big job.  

All the best to you,

James Alton 
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Jun 22, 2018, at 4:45 PM, 'smilesbernard@...' smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi there
My anodes are both held on by one single bolt that passes right through the rudder
I was a bit confused as to how the anodes were actually connected to any metalwork but the bot does go through one of the 5  stainless plates mentioned.
Does anyone else have this setup?
Not that convinced that the bolt passing through the stainless plate has sufficient contact area. Infact the yard took this off and i'm now wondering if the bolt threads into the plate at all or just pushes through a hole. Hopefully the former!

All the best
Miles 
Older Maramu 162


On Saturday, June 9, 2018, 10:46:48 PM GMT+1, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 

Hello Alex, Kent and Dennis,

the zincs are bolted into a stainless steel plate that is welded to the rudder shaft. There are 5 of them inside the rudder.
Alex, you need to drill the rudder with a 2 mm drill, on the other side of where your single zinc is attached, just to "feel" the stainless steel plate. Once you feel it, drill with an 8.5 mm and tap at 10mm. You will then put a new stainless steel screw into the new hole.
You could also try to find the next stainless steel plate above the one where you have your zinc, but this is more difficult, unless you have an accurate metal detector.

Bon courage.

Olivier

On Friday, June 8, 2018, 2:54:53 PM GMT+2, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

The bolt on the other side will be the same thread.  If the threads are stripped you may be able to rethread with the same size.  If you need to go larger, I’d rethread the other side the same so you don’t need two size wrenches.  With bigger bolts you may need to drill the zincs out to accommodate a larger bolt (I have to do that on all my zincs, they drill easily.)



Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Jun 7, 2018, at 5:36 PM, alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

As part of the project to apply the new gelcoat on the hull, we were in the process of replacing the zinc anodes on the rudder (the older Maramu has 2). We noticed that one of the anodes was missing when Simpatico went on the hard. Further investigation revealed that the bolt or element on which the anode is screwed (inside the spade) onto is also missing, so we are unable to screw the second anode in place. Any thoughts of how we should proceed in this case. As far as we know, the inside of the rudder spade is not serviceable.


Alex Paquin

s/v SIMPATICO

Hull # 94





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iridium Go

Porter McRoberts
 

Agreed Kent. Now that my external antenna is working my iridium go is very good too. 
Not fast but reliable. Like my Amel. 
Porter
54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jun 22, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Pat,

I have an Iridium phone with a gadget that uses the phone to create a Bluetooth WiFi hotspot.  I use it to get weather and do email.  It was less than satisfactory until I added a permanent antenna.  Now it’s awesome...good signal, fast downloads.  Maybe the bad reviews are from people like me before my new antenna???

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RUDDER ZINC SACRIFICE ANODES - QUESTION

smiles bernard
 

Hi there
My anodes are both held on by one single bolt that passes right through the rudder
I was a bit confused as to how the anodes were actually connected to any metalwork but the bot does go through one of the 5  stainless plates mentioned.
Does anyone else have this setup?
Not that convinced that the bolt passing through the stainless plate has sufficient contact area. Infact the yard took this off and i'm now wondering if the bolt threads into the plate at all or just pushes through a hole. Hopefully the former!

All the best
Miles 
Older Maramu 162


On Saturday, June 9, 2018, 10:46:48 PM GMT+1, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Hello Alex, Kent and Dennis,

the zincs are bolted into a stainless steel plate that is welded to the rudder shaft. There are 5 of them inside the rudder.
Alex, you need to drill the rudder with a 2 mm drill, on the other side of where your single zinc is attached, just to "feel" the stainless steel plate. Once you feel it, drill with an 8.5 mm and tap at 10mm. You will then put a new stainless steel screw into the new hole.
You could also try to find the next stainless steel plate above the one where you have your zinc, but this is more difficult, unless you have an accurate metal detector.

Bon courage.

Olivier

On Friday, June 8, 2018, 2:54:53 PM GMT+2, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

The bolt on the other side will be the same thread.  If the threads are stripped you may be able to rethread with the same size.  If you need to go larger, I’d rethread the other side the same so you don’t need two size wrenches.  With bigger bolts you may need to drill the zincs out to accommodate a larger bolt (I have to do that on all my zincs, they drill easily.)



Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Jun 7, 2018, at 5:36 PM, alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

As part of the project to apply the new gelcoat on the hull, we were in the process of replacing the zinc anodes on the rudder (the older Maramu has 2). We noticed that one of the anodes was missing when Simpatico went on the hard. Further investigation revealed that the bolt or element on which the anode is screwed (inside the spade) onto is also missing, so we are unable to screw the second anode in place. Any thoughts of how we should proceed in this case. As far as we know, the inside of the rudder spade is not serviceable.


Alex Paquin

s/v SIMPATICO

Hull # 94


Re: B&G Masthead Unit 213

pjn.mccallin@...
 

Dear Duane, just a note to advise I received the MHU today. It’s fine thank you. Patrick.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iridium Go

James Studdart
 

We also have the Iridium Go! with an external antenna. We use it constantly when offshore for email and weather. When I’m really bored on a night watch I’ve even used it to surf the internet (this take patience, lots of it).

The only time we’ve had trouble with a connection is in port with serious cliff faces around us. It really needs a clear horizon.

Cheers,
James.
SV SeaBean
Samoa


On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 05:37 christian alby calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

good day
have Iridium Go with external antenna on board since July last year - use North Atlantic, africa, carribean, northern Europe
took a while to get used to the system & appreciate its limitations but
Web Weather reports (gribs) - very good as long as sticking to Squid & Predict Wind, & keeping infos to bare minimum slection (zone, parameters Wind, waves …)
Web emails Out - good ttansfer speed as long as messages sent are short & attachment (pics) not too heavy - note : poor quality when received by destinee
Web emails In - good transfer speed as long as they are kept short; inform senders to avoid sending attachments (Big mails take ages to load all bits & Mbits blocking all traffic)
Web sites - poor & limited to few sites allowing compressed pages 
Web social - Facebook & Twitter work … but limited on attachments like movies & pics (takes awhile sitting in front of PC to keep an eye on connection & revive whe going dead).
Phone voice - works well but use only for emergencies (conversations by receiver can be garbled); usefull as saety support in case of accident (link with doctors);
Phone sms - works well 
Satellites - Need 4 bars to get connection; useless otherwise 
Cost - expensive, but price to pay for updated weather report 'when & how needed'. Good support for safety (health, accident treatment.
Crew - helps crew morals when in the middle of the ocean, beating upwind for the last 10 days in transverse seas & 35 kn winds … Call mummy !
good comms 

christian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Canet en Roussillon

Christian Alby - France home fixe +33 (0)5 34 39 06 02 home Internet +33 (0)9 60 37 22 72 mobile +33 (0)6 42 69 07 80



Le ‎vendredi‎ ‎22‎ ‎juin‎ ‎2018‎ ‎17‎:‎56‎:‎04‎ ‎CEST, Kent Robertson karkauai@yahoo..com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> a écrit :


 

Hi Pat,

I have an Iridium phone with a gadget that uses the phone to create a Bluetooth WiFi hotspot.  I use it to get weather and do email.  It was less than satisfactory until I added a permanent antenna.  Now it’s awesome...good signal, fast downloads.  Maybe the bad reviews are from people like me before my new antenna???

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iridium Go

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

good day
have Iridium Go with external antenna on board since July last year - use North Atlantic, africa, carribean, northern Europe
took a while to get used to the system & appreciate its limitations but
Web Weather reports (gribs) - very good as long as sticking to Squid & Predict Wind, & keeping infos to bare minimum slection (zone, parameters Wind, waves …)
Web emails Out - good ttansfer speed as long as messages sent are short & attachment (pics) not too heavy - note : poor quality when received by destinee
Web emails In - good transfer speed as long as they are kept short; inform senders to avoid sending attachments (Big mails take ages to load all bits & Mbits blocking all traffic)
Web sites - poor & limited to few sites allowing compressed pages 
Web social - Facebook & Twitter work … but limited on attachments like movies & pics (takes awhile sitting in front of PC to keep an eye on connection & revive whe going dead).
Phone voice - works well but use only for emergencies (conversations by receiver can be garbled); usefull as saety support in case of accident (link with doctors);
Phone sms - works well 
Satellites - Need 4 bars to get connection; useless otherwise 
Cost - expensive, but price to pay for updated weather report 'when & how needed'. Good support for safety (health, accident treatment.
Crew - helps crew morals when in the middle of the ocean, beating upwind for the last 10 days in transverse seas & 35 kn winds … Call mummy !
good comms 

christian alby - Désirade VIII - Maramu 116 - Canet en Roussillon

Christian Alby - France home fixe +33 (0)5 34 39 06 02 home Internet +33 (0)9 60 37 22 72 mobile +33 (0)6 42 69 07 80


Le ‎vendredi‎ ‎22‎ ‎juin‎ ‎2018‎ ‎17‎:‎56‎:‎04‎ ‎CEST, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] a écrit :


 

Hi Pat,

I have an Iridium phone with a gadget that uses the phone to create a Bluetooth WiFi hotspot.  I use it to get weather and do email.  It was less than satisfactory until I added a permanent antenna.  Now it’s awesome...good signal, fast downloads.  Maybe the bad reviews are from people like me before my new antenna???

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Iridium Go

karkauai
 

Hi Pat,
I have an Iridium phone with a gadget that uses the phone to create a Bluetooth WiFi hotspot.  I use it to get weather and do email.  It was less than satisfactory until I added a permanent antenna.  Now it’s awesome...good signal, fast downloads.  Maybe the bad reviews are from people like me before my new antenna???

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water in rudder

ya_fohi
 

Thank you Alexandre, that was what I was hoping to hear.

Cheers,
Paul


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raw water - seastrainer alarm

webercardio <webercardio@...>
 

Thank you Gary and Barry,
I will check this
Wolfgang SY Elise Amel 54 #162 on the way to Sardinia




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water in rudder

 

It's normal. It is designed to fill with sea water. Thank you, Henri Amel. BTW, the skeg should not fill with water. I have seen at least 2 skegs filled with water as a result of a serious collision. All 2 were hard to find cracks near the hull. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 06:58 Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good morning Paul,

In short (at least on the SM) it is normal.
This has been covered in several previous post.
Here is a beautiful explanation from Joel:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/conversations/messages/36764

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Fri, 6/22/18, sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water in rudder
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, June 22, 2018, 6:40 AM


 









Hi all,
When I hauled out I noticed a lot of
water draining from the hole in the bottom of the rudder. I
did not notice this in any of the previous haulouts. I have
seen this on other boats though. Is there domething I should
be concerned about? 
Cheers,PaulYa
Fohi - Amel 54 #98






Re: Iridium Go

greatketch@...
 

I have had one for almost 5 years. It has always worked.

It gets us our weather data everyday we are offshore. Of course data transfer is “slow” what do they expect? From initiation of the call to complete download of our grib files takes 4 to 10 minutes depending on the size of the transfer.

We have not often used it for voice comms, but it has worked when we needed it. It’s not a landline quality connection, but it serves.

Either use it on deck as a portable device, or get the external antenna

It has proven a good piece of kit for us. I haven’t heard of people complain about them before. I am guessing poor installation or unrealistic data expectations.

Bill Kinne
SM160 Harmonie


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water in rudder

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Paul,

In short (at least on the SM) it is normal.
This has been covered in several previous post.
Here is a beautiful explanation from Joel:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/conversations/messages/36764

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Fri, 6/22/18, sharongbrown@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water in rudder
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, June 22, 2018, 6:40 AM


 









Hi all,
When I hauled out I noticed a lot of
water draining from the hole in the bottom of the rudder. I
did not notice this in any of the previous haulouts. I have
seen this on other boats though. Is there domething I should
be concerned about? 
Cheers,PaulYa
Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Iridium Go

Patrick McAneny
 

We had planned to buy an Iridium Go , however I just read a bunch of very negative reviews on it. The reviews claim that it just did not function as advertised ,poor connections , slow or no data ,etc. They all felt it was a great concept , but just did not work .I would like to know what kind of experience members of this group have had . 

Thanks,

Pat

SM#123


Water in rudder

ya_fohi
 

Hi all,

When I hauled out I noticed a lot of water draining from the hole in the bottom of the rudder. I did not notice this in any of the previous haulouts. I have seen this on other boats though. Is there domething I should be concerned about? 

Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Raw water - seastrainer alarm

Barry Connor
 

Hi Wolfgang,

Can you tell me we’re the switch is?
When I recently had no water going through the generator the Oman generator just shut down, it was the rubber impeller which needed changing. 

Best Regards
Barry and Penny
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Sailing Croatia


On Jun 21, 2018, at 18:35, webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello to the group,

This time by testing the sea-strainer alarm ( shortly closed the valve for the inlet)  I heard no Alarm.

Can I clean the switch or do I have to replace it ?.Flush the tube ?

Thank you very much 

Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162 on the way to Lipari/Sicily

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