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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan parts in Martinique

Mark Erdos
 

Alex,

 

Looking forward to seeing you again.

 

The mooring situation is really hit and miss. If you arrive early in the day you may have a chance of snagging one. Moorings are full today with two boats in the marina waiting.

 

Best advice is to plan to hang in the marina for a few days. If you get a buoy, great. If not, you can still enjoy Bonaire until a buoy opens. Morning is the best time to check for open buoys by dink or call other boats on VHF 77. The moorings are first come first serve, no reservations, stay on it for as long as you want (dependent on your visa). If you are docked in the marina and are using your dink to check for a mooring, have something such as a fender or life-jacket to tie to it until you can get the mother-ship over. Alert the neighboring boats that you are claiming it. Else, there is a chance it'll be gone before you get back.

 

No need for a reservation at the marina. There are plenty of slips open and there is also a long side-tie dock with space. If you arrive at night or on a Sunday, there will not be staff to help. Best to tie at the side-tie pier until business hours. The marina monitors VHF 17. Carlos is the manager and speaks English.

 

To check in with customs and immigration you can either walk or take the dinghy to their dock. The walk is 25 mins or 2 km from the marina. The building is located here: 12°08'57.6"N 68°16'37.0"W (paste this into google maps) - It is possible to tie the dink at their dock on the south side of the North pier (if no cruise ships are in). You will see two big tugs and a couple of customs boats. Tie next to the customs boats at the area not reserved for customs. There is a guard at the gate and you tell him you are going to the customs office.

 

Hope you have a great sail here. Cream Puff is in the marina on B dock. We will be here for a couple of months. Look forward to meeting you when you arrive :)

 

If you have other questions, we're glad to help.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 2:03 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan parts in Martinique

 

 

 

Hi Paul, I'm at the west side of Puerto Rico, heading to Bonaire next week.

Cheers, Alex

On Saturday, July 28, 2018, 12:41:59 PM GMT-4, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

 

 

Hi Paul,

Clipper is the official dealer, but they have very few parts on stock. They asked for 2000 Euros for my new PCB board which I then ordered for a bit over USD 800 from the ONAN dealer in Englewood/FLA. Even with shipping and customs included, it was not half the price of Clipper. Also Clipper said the part would take ca one month to be delivered, I got it within a week from FLA. I had a friend shipping it, not the dealer itself, we declared the value to be USD 200.......as the Martiniquians have a special tax for parts that come from the U.S......

 

Hope you are doing well,

Alex

On Saturday, July 28, 2018, 9:05:58 AM GMT-4, sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

 

 

Thanks Bill.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Onan Water Pump [1 Attachment]

James Cromie
 

What is the sensor that you have install downstream of the strainer, and where do have it wired for readout?


On Jul 29, 2018, at 1:21 PM, dbv_au@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Sorry for the delay in responding, you will know why - but our fit-out is now almost complete, so Ihhave some breathing space and spare time to go through the 700+ messages in backlog ....

Here is a picture of the strainer I fitted recently to PERIGEE, between the ONAN raw-water pump and the heat exchanger.

Fair winds
David
Perigee SM#396
On Anchor, St Pierre
Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan parts in Martinique

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 


Hi Paul, I'm at the west side of Puerto Rico, heading to Bonaire next week.
Cheers, Alex

On Saturday, July 28, 2018, 12:41:59 PM GMT-4, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Hi Paul,
Clipper is the official dealer, but they have very few parts on stock. They asked for 2000 Euros for my new PCB board which I then ordered for a bit over USD 800 from the ONAN dealer in Englewood/FLA. Even with shipping and customs included, it was not half the price of Clipper. Also Clipper said the part would take ca one month to be delivered, I got it within a week from FLA. I had a friend shipping it, not the dealer itself, we declared the value to be USD 200.......as the Martiniquians have a special tax for parts that come from the U.S......

Hope you are doing well,
Alex
On Saturday, July 28, 2018, 9:05:58 AM GMT-4, sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Thanks Bill.


Re: Onan Water Pump

webercardio@...
 

Perfect, so you have a partnumber and manufacture of this ?
Thank you very much Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162


Re: Unknown spare parts

webercardio@...
 

The foam seal should be for the bowthruster.
The other part should be for the sailbattens
The seal for the mainsailmotor is much smaller.
When I asked Amel in Hyeres about this motor,
they told me, that today the motor has a little hole on the bottom to let the water run out and if you look at the new Amel 50 they made a protecting Cover for the motor.
I grease around the Top and will protect the part with tape for the Winter.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Servicing the GROHE thermostatic shower mixer [5 Attachments]

Mark Erdos
 

Mark,

 

The timing of this post is very good. I noticed I now have a small leak on the aft shower unit. It only leaks when, it is being adjusted but I figured this is the beginning.

 

The part that you mention, is this for the temperature end or the flow end?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 1, 2018 11:55 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Servicing the GROHE thermostatic shower mixer [5 Attachments]

 

 

[Attachment(s) from mfmcgovern@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

The aft shower unit in my SM had developed a small leak.  I found this thread when researching how to open it up.  However, the Grohe shower unit in my SM is a little different from the one in the link that Alan posted.  Mine does not have a screw holding the ON/OFF cap in place.  It is just pressed on so I had to use a screwdriver to gently pry it off.  Upon disassembly I found that the ON/OFF cartridge had cracked.  There were some numbers engraved on the cracked cartridge but none of them appeared to be the part number.  I used Google images to find the closest visual match.  I got lucky and guessed right. The part number for the ON/OFF cartridge for my Grohe shower unit is 45882000.  I found them on Amazon for about $20 but they also have them at Home Depot for the same price:  https://www.homedepot.com/p/GROHE-Ceramic-Headpart-45882000/204193498.  

 

Mark McGovern

SM #440 Cara

Deale, MD USA


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Re: Onan Water Pump

SV Perigee
 

Sorry for the delay in responding, you will know why - but our fit-out is now almost complete, so Ihhave some breathing space and spare time to go through the 700+ messages in backlog ....

Here is a picture of the strainer I fitted recently to PERIGEE, between the ONAN raw-water pump and the heat exchanger.

Fair winds
David
Perigee SM#396
On Anchor, St Pierre
Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Unknown spare parts [1 Attachment]

 

Paul,

That might be the rubber seal that goes on the top of your main furling motor. That is, if you have the 54 vertically mounted main furling motor, which with hull #98, I suspect you have this seal. Early model 54s had a horizontal main furling motor. BTW, when these seals leak, the incoming water will ruin the motor. The rubber seals probably have a life of 2-4 years. That life can be prolonged with a coating of Trident brand Silicone Grease (I don't recommend a substitute for the Trident brand...you can find it in dive shops.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 11:21 AM sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
[Attachment(s) from sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Hi all,

I have some parts left over form the previous owner whcih I cannot identify and am hoping someone may be able to help. I have attached a photo.

Two soft rubbery/foam rings, external diameter 106mm, internal diameter 60mm, thickness 10mm
Two aluminium batons, string attached one end, length approx 360mm, width 15mm, thickness 3mm

Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Steering/tracking problem

 

Davi,

I believe Mark's suspicions are probably correct. 

Something happened to the MaxProp when cleaning, or the MaxProp is in need of service. I believe if the MaxProp is not working/feathering correctly, it might create a water vortex which would feel like slight weather helm, or it might create a kind of "prop-wash" causing the boat to slightly track sideways. Everything points to the prop.
 
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be taken when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any referred to mechanical and/or electrical device or system.


On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 9:42 AM 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Davi,

 

What about the prop. Is it a folding prop and are the blades moving freely?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 10:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Steering/tracking problem [1 Attachment]

 

 

[Attachment(s) from davi.rozgonyi@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Hi All! This is my first post, I think, but I'm Davi, owner of SM #56, SY Wake. Recently I've had a strange steering tracking problem maybe you could give me some insight into...Any advice will be most appreciated! 

 

Recently I had my boat short hauled for a bottom clean. Went well, professional people, an hour out and done gentle as could be...I watched/supervised the whole thing. Then I motored out in perfectly calm wind and sea, no current, and noticed that I was holding the wheel at the position in the pic (about 10-15 degrees to port) in order to motor straight ahead! There was a slight pressure like weather helm (with no weather). If I released the wheel, it would slowly turn back till the top spoke was in the correct position for center rudder, stay there without any help, and the boat itself would slowly start turning to starboard. It felt like I was motoring with a centered rudder but dragging something from my starboard side, basically. 

 

Got to an anchorage and spent two days playing around, but also diving the hull. Scraped and cleaned the patches under the lift straps. Absolutely nothing that was dragging. There is a small protruding transducer on the starboard side that sticks out an inch or two, but it's quite close to centerline (a few feet max), and I can't see how that would either drag much or that I wouldn't have noticed it before... I also don't see how this could be a steering cable issue simply because it 'feels' like the rudder is centered, and the wheel stays naturally in that position like it used to, but the boat turns. Before this, the wheel stayed in the center and the boat went straight for miles and miles without touching the wheel (under motor, calm conditions). 

 

What gives???

 


Unknown spare parts

ya_fohi
 

Hi all,

I have some parts left over form the previous owner whcih I cannot identify and am hoping someone may be able to help. I have attached a photo.

Two soft rubbery/foam rings, external diameter 106mm, internal diameter 60mm, thickness 10mm
Two aluminium batons, string attached one end, length approx 360mm, width 15mm, thickness 3mm

Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Steering/tracking problem

James Alton
 

Davi, 
How about getting the boat up to speed and going into neutral to see if the helm straightens out?  This will eliminate the possibility that the prop is the cause.  If you still have a turn in the boat, I think I would have a good look at the rudder for any asymmetries.  

Best of luck,

James
SV Sueño,  Maramu #220

On Jul 29, 2018, at 10:41 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi Davi,

 

What about the prop. Is it a folding prop and are the blades moving freely?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 10:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Steering/tracking problem [1 Attachment]

 

  

[Attachment(s) from davi.rozgonyi@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Hi All! This is my first post, I think, but I'm Davi, owner of SM #56, SY Wake. Recently I've had a strange steering tracking problem maybe you could give me some insight into...Any advice will be most appreciated! 

 

Recently I had my boat short hauled for a bottom clean. Went well, professional people, an hour out and done gentle as could be...I watched/supervised the whole thing. Then I motored out in perfectly calm wind and sea, no current, and noticed that I was holding the wheel at the position in the pic (about 10-15 degrees to port) in order to motor straight ahead! There was a slight pressure like weather helm (with no weather). If I released the wheel, it would slowly turn back till the top spoke was in the correct position for center rudder, stay there without any help, and the boat itself would slowly start turning to starboard. It felt like I was motoring with a centered rudder but dragging something from my starboard side, basically. 

 

Got to an anchorage and spent two days playing around, but also diving the hull. Scraped and cleaned the patches under the lift straps. Absolutely nothing that was dragging. There is a small protruding transducer on the starboard side that sticks out an inch or two, but it's quite close to centerline (a few feet max), and I can't see how that would either drag much or that I wouldn't have noticed it before... I also don't see how this could be a steering cable issue simply because it 'feels' like the rudder is centered, and the wheel stays naturally in that position like it used to, but the boat turns. Before this, the wheel stayed in the center and the boat went straight for miles and miles without touching the wheel (under motor, calm conditions). 

 

What gives???

 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Strange Steering/tracking problem

Mark Erdos
 

We have an AutoProp. So, I am not sure if the same applies. You should be able to turn each blade with one figure. If one of the blades is more stiff then the others, it may need to be lubed.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 10:52 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Strange Steering/tracking problem

 

 

Ciao Mark! The prop seemed to be moving freely but tbh I didn't wiggle it around that much either on land or underwater. Could pressure washing it have done something to it? It's a Maxprop feathering btw..  


Re: Strange Steering/tracking problem

Davi Rozgonyi
 

Ciao Mark! TBH I didn't wiggle it much either on land or underwater.... it was pressure washed and the blades seemed to turn back and forth ok, but again, I didn't test. It's a Maxprop feathering btw...


Re: Strange Steering/tracking problem

Davi Rozgonyi
 

Ciao Mark! The prop seemed to be moving freely but tbh I didn't wiggle it around that much either on land or underwater. Could pressure washing it have done something to it? It's a Maxprop feathering btw..  


Re: Victron Centaur 24/60

greatketch@...
 

Bill,

I might be wrong, (given the black soot covering things...) but the part you indicated looks more like a diode than a resistor.  A typical failure mode for a diode is overvoltage.  I suspect you are looking at a symptom, not a cause.  

My first bet would be a short term glitch in shore power.  Although, I wouldn't put a lot of money on that...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: Victron Centaur 24/60

greatketch@...
 

Bill,

I might be wrong, (given the black soot covering things...) but the part you indicated looks more like a diode than a resistor.  A typical failure mode for a diode is overvoltage.  I suspect you are looking at a symptom, not a cause.  

My first bet would be a short term glitch in shore power.  Although, I wouldn't put a lot of money on that...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Steering/tracking problem [1 Attachment]

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Davi,

 

What about the prop. Is it a folding prop and are the blades moving freely?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 10:19 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Steering/tracking problem [1 Attachment]

 

 

[Attachment(s) from davi.rozgonyi@... [amelyachtowners] included below]

Hi All! This is my first post, I think, but I'm Davi, owner of SM #56, SY Wake. Recently I've had a strange steering tracking problem maybe you could give me some insight into...Any advice will be most appreciated! 

 

Recently I had my boat short hauled for a bottom clean. Went well, professional people, an hour out and done gentle as could be...I watched/supervised the whole thing. Then I motored out in perfectly calm wind and sea, no current, and noticed that I was holding the wheel at the position in the pic (about 10-15 degrees to port) in order to motor straight ahead! There was a slight pressure like weather helm (with no weather). If I released the wheel, it would slowly turn back till the top spoke was in the correct position for center rudder, stay there without any help, and the boat itself would slowly start turning to starboard. It felt like I was motoring with a centered rudder but dragging something from my starboard side, basically. 

 

Got to an anchorage and spent two days playing around, but also diving the hull. Scraped and cleaned the patches under the lift straps. Absolutely nothing that was dragging. There is a small protruding transducer on the starboard side that sticks out an inch or two, but it's quite close to centerline (a few feet max), and I can't see how that would either drag much or that I wouldn't have noticed it before... I also don't see how this could be a steering cable issue simply because it 'feels' like the rudder is centered, and the wheel stays naturally in that position like it used to, but the boat turns. Before this, the wheel stayed in the center and the boat went straight for miles and miles without touching the wheel (under motor, calm conditions). 

 

What gives???

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Victron Centaur 24/60 [1 Attachment]

Kelly Ran
 

Hey Bill,

Sorry to hear about that!
Looks like a diode to me... Possible failure modes-
Too much forward current if forward biased
If the diode is reverse biased, then too high a reverse standoff voltage 
Probably better diagnosed if you pull the PCB out

Kelly + Ryan
SM233 Iteration 
Boston


On Sun, Jul 29, 2018, 09:43 william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
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Hey everyone -


Went out for a beautiful day yesterday. Everything was perfect until I plugged back into the dock and flipped the charger on. About a minute after there was a loud "pop" and a plume of white smoke that came from the engine room. Upon further investigation I found that the charger blew. (See picture in mark up). All is good and again I came to respect the redundancies on this boat even more. Problem temporarily solved by switching on the heart charger located in the aft cabin. (Usually I only use this charger as a supplement with my primary (Victron Centaur 24/60 while on generator power) It looks like a resister blew and the charger is less than 2 years old. Can anyone chime in on a  possible reason beside faulty equipment? Voltages all check out at post and plug end. The boat did a good job protecting itself and popped the breaker.  Just looking for some additional comments. Many thanks. 


Bill Maffei

Its all Good

SM #195


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Masse Light and March Pump

greatketch@...
 

On our UP2/e I tapped into the positive wire going from the controller to the pump.  The light is a bit dim at low flow rates, but works.  Not sure if the UP3/e would be different or not.

The very newest versions of the larger Marco pumps (starting with the UP6/E) have an optional remote control panel for both status indication and switching of the pump.  If you have that system, you can add an additional run indicator LED anywhere you want.  (Panel AND helm?) A very nice addition to already line of nice pumps!

I don't know if these are in the supply chain yet, but they are in the most recent catalog.  Unfortunately, it doesn't look like retrofit is a simple matter without replacement of the pressure controller.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


---In amelyachtowners@..., <brouse@...> wrote :

Mark,

You probably know that your OEM pressure switch has 3 wires connected to it. Two of those wires supply 24 positive and negative. The third wire will light the panel LED when positive 24VDC is connected to it. So, you want to connect that third wire to the positive wire going to the pump motor, after the pressure switch.

Some of the MARCO pumps are easier than others to make this connection. Let me know which pump you are installing and I will get you more information.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018, 08:03 brass.ring@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good morning Bill,

Were you able to interface the LED indicator light on the panel to show when the Marco pumps are running.  If so, how did you connect the wiring?  Thanks.

Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54 - 68
Southport, NC

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