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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bed for Rendezvous

Brent Cameron
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Q Sails Contact Info

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: run away windlass

Duane Siegfri
 

Does anyone have a source for the Lofrans Control Box that matches the dimensions of the old one?

Thanks,
Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] run away windlass

Duane Siegfri
 

Bill and Eric,

You're right on the money!  I took the Lofrans control box out apart and one of the contactors was welded to the contacts.

So now I need to find a replacement part.  I'm going to try to repair the box in the meantime.

Best regards,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Q Sails Contact Info

Stephen Davis
 

We are planning to replace our very old ballooner which shredded on our last passage, and add a new Genoa to our inventory. Do any of you have the correct contact info for Q sails, and any comments regarding the quality and service you received from them.

Thanks for your help.

Steve and Liz
Aloha SM 72
Ko Olina, Hawaii


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] run away windlass

 

Duane,

Take a look at the attached page from my book.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 11:00 AM sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I was raising the anchor today and the windlass continued to pull chain after I let go of the button.  To turn the windlass off, I had to turn the off breaker (marked Jib/Windlass) in the fwd cabin.  The Windlass ON/OFF switch in the forward cabin did not turn the windlass off.  If I turn the breaker ON the Windlass runs no matter the position of the On/Off switch.


Using a continuity check, it appears the buttons on the windlass are operating normally.  


I thought that perhaps the switch at the helm was the issue, but after I disconnected all the wires to that Up/Down switch the windlass ran unless the breaker was turned off.


I removed and tested the On/Off switch in the fwd cabin and it appears to be operating normally.  It turns off both legs of the DC Circuit and there was no continuity from positive wire to positive wire with the switch Off, but there was continuity with the switch On.


I would truly appreciate any thoughts or suggestions.


Duane




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] run away windlass

 

Duane,

First, let me tell you what I tell all of my Amel School Clients. "When you have an electrical emergency, ALWAYS turn OFF the main battery switches. Also, explain this rule to all guests."

As you likely know, solenoid switches have a low amp side which activates the high amp switch. The Lofranz Control Box has 2 solenoid switches inside. When you turned OFF the command breaker on your 24 volt panel, you turned OFF the low amp side of the control box solenoid. When you turned OFF the windlass switch, you turned OFF the low amp side of the control box solenoid. When you turned OFF the breaker nearby, you turned OFF the HIGH AMP side of that control box.

Almost always, a runaway windlass or winch is caused by HIGH AMP side of the control solenoid sticking, sometimes welding together.

You can open the Lofranz control box and observe what I have described above. BUT, do not attempt to clean the HIGH AMP contacts because once they have failed like you describe, they need replacing.

AND, BTW, use the Amel Thumb Screw near the breaker in the forward portside cabinet to remove the entire board that the control box is mounted on. If I were you, I would only buy the Lofranz 24VDC control box, not something else...you will see that the geometry of the mount is "tight."

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 11:00 AM sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I was raising the anchor today and the windlass continued to pull chain after I let go of the button.  To turn the windlass off, I had to turn the off breaker (marked Jib/Windlass) in the fwd cabin.  The Windlass ON/OFF switch in the forward cabin did not turn the windlass off.  If I turn the breaker ON the Windlass runs no matter the position of the On/Off switch.


Using a continuity check, it appears the buttons on the windlass are operating normally.  


I thought that perhaps the switch at the helm was the issue, but after I disconnected all the wires to that Up/Down switch the windlass ran unless the breaker was turned off.


I removed and tested the On/Off switch in the fwd cabin and it appears to be operating normally.  It turns off both legs of the DC Circuit and there was no continuity from positive wire to positive wire with the switch Off, but there was continuity with the switch On.


I would truly appreciate any thoughts or suggestions.


Duane




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] run away windlass

eric freedman
 


Re: Bed for Rendezvous

Alan Grayson
 

Hi Brent, that sounds fine with me. I’m a very well house trained Kiwi (New Zealander) who only snores when he has had too much to drink so I’ll try my best to be good. 

Here is my ph # 830 353 1587

I'll probably be arriving in St Michaels around noon on the 1st. If you want to text me your number closer to the time we can find a way to hook up.

Regards

Alan


run away windlass

Duane Siegfri
 

I was raising the anchor today and the windlass continued to pull chain after I let go of the button.  To turn the windlass off, I had to turn the off breaker (marked Jib/Windlass) in the fwd cabin.  The Windlass ON/OFF switch in the forward cabin did not turn the windlass off.  If I turn the breaker ON the Windlass runs no matter the position of the On/Off switch.


Using a continuity check, it appears the buttons on the windlass are operating normally.  


I thought that perhaps the switch at the helm was the issue, but after I disconnected all the wires to that Up/Down switch the windlass ran unless the breaker was turned off.


I removed and tested the On/Off switch in the fwd cabin and it appears to be operating normally.  It turns off both legs of the DC Circuit and there was no continuity from positive wire to positive wire with the switch Off, but there was continuity with the switch On.


I would truly appreciate any thoughts or suggestions.


Duane




Re: At postage costs to have AIS receiver

SV Perigee
 

Hi Arno,

We'll take it (FA-30, RX only),  We in Curacao, Curacao Marine marina, so we can save teh postage.

BTW, haven't seen you around.  We just splashed back after 10 days on the hard.

Looking forward to meet up sometime soon.

David
SV Perigee, SM#396
Slip 13



Barnacle Buster Alternative--Hammerhead Marine Descaler

rossirossix4
 

I have not used Hammerhead Marine Descaler but a friend who is a boat mechanic recommended it to me saying that it will not attack metals or pose a hazard to skin and eyes.  Literature states " By binding only with calcium, remaining minerals and deposits held by the calcium are released to rinse free without harm to equipment. Hammerhead Marine Descaler does not oxidize, corrode or attack metals found in water systems. When used as directed, it is safe for copper, rubber, gasket materials, steel, iron glass and various materials used in conventional heat exchangers, condensers, evaporators and other water operated equipment"  He also told me that Yanmar recommends it but I can find no such statement using Google.  Maybe someone in our group is familiar with it.  We only use frequent fresh water flushes (when docked or anchored more than 3 days) and a Salt-A-Way mixture.  Anyway, maybe someone in the group has used it or knows more about it.


 


At postage costs to have AIS receiver

Arno Luijten
 

Hi All,

I've replaced my AIS receiver with a transponder. If someone wants the receiver (Furuno FA-30) I can send to you at the cost of postage. I'm on Curacao so not sure if that makes it worthwhile to any of you.


Regards,

Arno Luijten


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bed for Rendezvous

Brent Cameron
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] model number of CAT pump on watermaker.

 

Ian and everyone with a CAT pump,

There is a lot of vibration on this pump. Those bolts will become loose because of the vibration from the pump...if they get loose, they will shear.  

Check those bolts periodically...I m not sure how often. Both the Inlet Manifold (2) and the Discharge Manifold (4)
It is a M10 allen head bolt that takes a M8 Allen wrench. They should be torqued to 18 foot lbs. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

Any opinions and conclusions expressed in this message are solely those of the author and should not be construed as representing the opinion of an expert. Manufacturers' and Expert's precautions must be considered when dealing with mechanical and/or electrical systems to ensure that you are NOT harmed, and/or the device and/or system is NOT ruined. If in doubt, do not touch any mechanical and/or electrical device or system referred to above.


On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 1:22 PM Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Eric,

it is indeed a model 277. Here is the Dessalator reference, but I know it will me much cheaper in the US.  Complete pump head TET_POMPCAT277_COMP
1 Piece 1 290,65 1 290,65 20,0

I just had mine fail when the heads of two of the four bolts that hold the pump head to the body sheared off. That's stainless for you. When I queried Dessalator about it they blamed it on the vibration of the ship!! My unit had 903 hours on it.

I would strongly advise that these bolts are changed every 700 hours to avoid the expense of a pump rebuild or replacement.

There is a number on the pump body that I can get you tomorrow if you wish.

Cheers

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader Leros Greece


On 21/09/2018 05:58, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 



Does anyone know the model number of the Cat pump on the 160 lph watermaker?
It was suggested it is model 277.
Fair Winds,
eric
SM 376 Kimberlite


Barnacle Buster Alternative

Mark Erdos
 

Hi All,

 

I recently found this item:  Klean- Strip Phosphoric Prep & Etch. It has the same ingredients as Barnacle Buster but is about ¼ the price and is two times the concentration. It is available at most hardware stores.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Bonaire

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] model number of CAT pump on watermaker.

Ian Shepherd
 

Hi Eric,

it is indeed a model 277. Here is the Dessalator reference, but I know it will me much cheaper in the US.  Complete pump head TET_POMPCAT277_COMP
1 Piece 1 290,65 1 290,65 20,0

I just had mine fail when the heads of two of the four bolts that hold the pump head to the body sheared off. That's stainless for you. When I queried Dessalator about it they blamed it on the vibration of the ship!! My unit had 903 hours on it.

I would strongly advise that these bolts are changed every 700 hours to avoid the expense of a pump rebuild or replacement.

There is a number on the pump body that I can get you tomorrow if you wish.

Cheers

Ian Shepherd SM2K 414 Crusader Leros Greece


On 21/09/2018 05:58, eric kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 



Does anyone know the model number of the Cat pump on the 160 lph watermaker?
It was suggested it is model 277.
Fair Winds,
eric
SM 376 Kimberlite


Re: Interior wood quality

Miles
 

Hi Paul,

 

I hope all is well with you.  Regarding the wood,  I watched Amel making the interior in my boat.  The plywood is made from many thin layers with very strong adhesive.   It is much stronger than any piece of solid wood.  Look at the many layers in the curved piece over the bulkhead openings.  Amel said that this makes the bulkhead as strong or more than it would be with no doorway cut out of it.   Back then, Amel bought big logs (tree trunks) each year in Senegal, brought the logs (tree trunks) to La Rochelle, and let them sit for a number of years before working the wood.    You have nothing to be unhappy about.

 

What are your plans for the winter?

 

Regards,

 

Miles, s/y Ladybug, sm216, Newport, RI


YODA speaks"

eric freedman
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] My turn for a "What is this?"

amelforme
 

Hi Bill. That piece was fashioned by a beaver with bad teeth for the original owner in order to comply with a requirement on a Jimmy Cornell RTW rally regarding the companionway height. The scrutineers did not like the fact that the Amel companionway could slide down in  horrid weather and this was supposed to be put in place and tied to prevent the companionway from falling down. I know, it didn’t make sense to me either but they “passed” by showing this Rube Goldberg thingamajig to the experts.

 

This most certainly was not  made by Amel. If it was, that beaver would have been shot. I am sure of this as I remember laughing out loud when I asked what it was when I found it while listing the boat before reselling it for the first time.

 

Good move not to chuck it or modify it until you were sure of what it is. Good advice to all Amel owners is not to discard anything if you are not absolutely positively certain of what it is especially if it looks to be well made and finished to Amel standards.

 

Looking forward to seeing you and Karen at the rendezvous.

 

All The Best, Joel

 

 

          JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETTING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 11:35 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] My turn for a "What is this?"

 

 

Here is something that we have had buried in a locker since we bought the boat.  Every time I touch it I scratch my head and try to imagine where it might go or be used for.  Well, my imagination has failed me, and I am turning to the Amel Hive Mind...

 

A piece of plywood with a flange of solid wood along one long edge, with a loop of cord attached.  The wood and plywood are all look like Amel original.  It is not finished to furniture standard, but rather to the standard that Amel used for "hidden" parts.

 

Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Annapolis, MD, USA

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