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Re: Where to put the life raft

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Right you are, Eric, the WInslow would be a super choice and I was close to buying that. It's an exceptionally designed life raft.  As I recall the soft pack would fit nicely in my SN port cockpit lazarette locker, along with a proper ditch kit.
I've got a DBC hard pack that's a monster. 
Cheers, Craig

Re: Where to put the life raft

eric freedman
 

If you ever get around to getting a new raft, Winslow has at least 5 different containers to pack a raft. It is also serviced every 3 years.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 9:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Where to put the life raft

 

[Edited Message Follows]

Hi Eric,
Yes, I did consider putting the life raft in the cockpit port locker, but found that space more valuable for frequently used things. Dinghy stuff, fishing tackle box, maintenance stuff and like that. Plus, we're not currently in the mode of extended off-shore passage making, like you. 
Cheers, Craig
Oops, forgot the #1 reason; the SN cockpit locker is smaller than the SM and the raft doesn't fit!

Re: Gas springs on the aft Lasarett

Paul Osterberg
 

I see the need for gas struts due to the risk of the hatch falling down and you have your toes between, One friend of mine lost her big toe in such accident, it could be put in place again, a very painful experience one could live without. With gas struts the consequence would be much less.
Paul on SY KerpaSM#259

Re: Gas springs on the aft Lasarett

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Hi Alan,
Yes, I do just open the lazarette and lean it back. But, with the life raft on top it is pretty heavy to lift it the first 45 degrees or so, so gas struts would be nice. The life raft is, I think, about 100 pounds. The Admiral struggles a bit with it. (I, of course, would never admit to that!)
Cheers

Re: Where to put the life raft

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 
Edited

Hi Eric,
Yes, I did consider putting the life raft in the cockpit port locker, but found that space more valuable for frequently used things. Dinghy stuff, fishing tackle box, maintenance stuff and like that. Plus, we're not currently in the mode of extended off-shore passage making, like you. 
Cheers, Craig
Oops, forgot the #1 reason; the SN cockpit locker is smaller than the SM and the raft doesn't fit!

Re: Gas springs on the aft Lasarett

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Craig,
Don't you just open the lazarette hatch and lean it back against the sloping aft cabin hatch ?
That gives complete and unparalleled access to the lazarette for any shape or size of "stuff"
IMO gas struts would just add an unnecessary complication and get in the way.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Where to put the life raft

eric freedman
 

Hi Craig,

Had you thought of putting your life raft in the cockpit port locker?

It is very easy to get out from there. In addition, in horrific conditions, you really don’t want to be at the stern.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 6:10 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Gas springs on the aft Lasarett

 

Hi Paul and Lady Annita,

I have also been toying with adding gas struts to my aft locker because that is where I have my life raft and it is pretty heavy to lift up (more so every year :-)  Some thoughts I have considered are that tail gates on automobiles do open more than 90 degrees, so that should not be a problem. However, you really do not need the hatch to automatically open and close to its full swing. A manual operation where it simply gives an assist on opening would be fine (like the SM cockpit/engine room hatch).  if it opened more than 90 degrees, no problem, you could just start the closing by hand and the piston would provide the dampening to give a soft close.
I haven't engineered a specific solution yet, but it seems totally feasible. Any further thoughts/ideas or specific gas strut recommendations would be welcome.

Cheers, Craig

Re: Gas springs on the aft Lasarett

Gary Wells
 

That seems interesting to me.  My first concern is that when open, the struts would provide a small but possibly problematic interference for setting/sliding things onto the decks (I mostly just push things forward when I'm down in there hauling stuff out). I was thinking having that strut/bar in the way might be a small inconvenience.  
On the other hand, it might be a small but useful grab bar as long as you didn't bend it :)

Gary W.
SM 209 Adagio
Brunswick, GA

Re: Gas springs on the aft Lasarett

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 

Hi Paul and Lady Annita,

I have also been toying with adding gas struts to my aft locker because that is where I have my life raft and it is pretty heavy to lift up (more so every year :-)  Some thoughts I have considered are that tail gates on automobiles do open more than 90 degrees, so that should not be a problem. However, you really do not need the hatch to automatically open and close to its full swing. A manual operation where it simply gives an assist on opening would be fine (like the SM cockpit/engine room hatch).  if it opened more than 90 degrees, no problem, you could just start the closing by hand and the piston would provide the dampening to give a soft close.
I haven't engineered a specific solution yet, but it seems totally feasible. Any further thoughts/ideas or specific gas strut recommendations would be welcome.

Cheers, Craig

Re: Gas springs on the aft Lasarett

Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg
 

Hi Paul
I don’t think it will work with a gas strut/spring on that hatch, because you open the hatch more than 90 degrees and when the hatch is resting towards the aftcabin roof it is beyond the critical angel where it can close it self.

/Annsofie, 
S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998


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25 mars 2020 kl. 17:48 skrev Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...>:

I would like to have gas springs on the aft lasarett on my SM. Is there anyone who have installed that? in that case what size and "strength" did you use? any picture would be appreciated.
I'm afraid the hatch might be to short to have any real use for gas springs, but I might be wrong (not unusual) 
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Lagos, Portugal
  

Re: Water Detection - Cleaning the fuel tank

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

I did use Kolor Kut as a check but found no indication of water.  I routinely use a biocide plus Sea Foam when fueling.
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54

Gas springs on the aft Lasarett

Paul Osterberg
 

I would like to have gas springs on the aft lasarett on my SM. Is there anyone who have installed that? in that case what size and "strength" did you use? any picture would be appreciated.
I'm afraid the hatch might be to short to have any real use for gas springs, but I might be wrong (not unusual) 
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Lagos, Portugal
  

Re: Water Detection - Cleaning the fuel tank

Laurens Vos
 

Hi Mark 

Thanks for this suggestion.
Looks to me it could work well 
Did you find water this way ?

Regards
Laurens 

Re: Passarelle

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Yeah I guess so. Only if and when we sell her will it then be an attractive feature!

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98 - Grenada

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Sent: 23 March 2020 22:37
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Passarelle

 

Hi Paul,

We have Besenzoni Skipper pasarelle on Elyse, I imagine that's what you have. I've used it a few times in Med moor situations, but they're not that common outside of the Med. Ours rarely gets used and has in fact seized up, the motor on the pump has died, and I'm seriously considering dumping it.
If I were you, I'd take it off, you may never see the need to put it back on !

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 ...currently locked down in New Zealand...without me!


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Passarelle

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Paul,

We have Besenzoni Skipper pasarelle on Elyse, I imagine that's what you have. I've used it a few times in Med moor situations, but they're not that common outside of the Med. Ours rarely gets used and has in fact seized up, the motor on the pump has died, and I'm seriously considering dumping it.
If I were you, I'd take it off, you may never see the need to put it back on !

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437 ...currently locked down in New Zealand...without me!

Re: Passarelle

Paul Osterberg
 

We toke it off today, it toke a few hours, still have the hydraulic pump and some cabling to remove. And of course make the transom look good again, a few holes to cover. She looks much more beautiful now, and when the mark from the old passarelle is gone she will look great again.
We have probably a much simpler solution on our SM than on the 54, it would not retract totally so part of it would always be outside the transom. Still rather heavy but we manage my wife and I.
Paul SY Kerpa SM#259 Lagos, Portugal sykerpa.com

Re: Rub Rail Rubber Inserts: Last Call

Volker Hasenauer
 

Hi Karen,

I just read your email while stranded in Europe due to Corona Virus travel ban.

Have you placed the order already? How does shipments get arranged? I would need shipment to Malaysia - guess that's a problem?

Volker
SY Aquamarine
Santorin 027
Borneo Malaysia

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 11:54 PM Karen Smith via Groups.Io <karenharmonie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
We have an extruder in the USA to make a custom extrusion of the Amel rubber rail that fits the Super Maramu and Santorin.

The material will be white EDPM, and it will be supplied in 2 pieces each 16 m (52'6") in length.  Cost will be $805 for the two pieces sufficient to replace both inserts on one boat.  Shipping will be from South Florida, and for UPS ground it ranges from <$200 for the lower 48, to $460 to Hawaii.

We have 10 boats signed on as interested, (which JUST covers the minimum order!) and will be scheduling the production run within a week or so, so if there is anyone else, this is your last chance!

Re: Passarelle

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Arno,

 

I’m a bit nervous about doing this now! It won’t be for quite a while though, so I’ll file this for now – many thanks.

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Luijten
Sent: 23 March 2020 12:53
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Passarelle

 

Paul from Ya Fohi,

Be advised your name-fellow has a Super Maramu. Very different arrangement. I had to remove the Opacmare passerelle on our 54 last year to have it repaired. That took lots of effort and even more money. Most likely the rotary actuator is seized up. It means you cannot disassemble the top part from the base anymore.

What I did is remove the bolts from the base that hold it to the boat. Then I removed the hydraulic hoses which mean you will have to cut them.  The sensor cables can be saved though. 

As the base is glued to the boat with some kind of caulking you will find the passerelle still firmly holding on to the boat.  What I did in the end is tie a rope to the end of the passerelle and tie it to the dock (our boat is moored stern-to). Then using a little slack on the mooring lines, I gave the boat a firm push away from the dock. The weight of the boat resulted in a bing bang an a released passerelle with surpisingly little damage to the gelcoat. Careful, the passerelle is REALLY heavy! Make sure it’s tied to the boat so it does not become an anchor, also limit the slack on the mooring lines. 

You will need 3 or 4 persons to lift the thing off the boat. A new rotary actuator will set you back 5 or 6k$. Mine was seized up solid and beyond repair. And then the rest...

Good luck with the project, if you need more info, let me know. 


Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121


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Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Passarelle

Arno Luijten
 

Paul from Ya Fohi,

Be advised your name-fellow has a Super Maramu. Very different arrangement. I had to remove the Opacmare passerelle on our 54 last year to have it repaired. That took lots of effort and even more money. Most likely the rotary actuator is seized up. It means you cannot disassemble the top part from the base anymore.

What I did is remove the bolts from the base that hold it to the boat. Then I removed the hydraulic hoses which mean you will have to cut them.  The sensor cables can be saved though. 

As the base is glued to the boat with some kind of caulking you will find the passerelle still firmly holding on to the boat.  What I did in the end is tie a rope to the end of the passerelle and tie it to the dock (our boat is moored stern-to). Then using a little slack on the mooring lines, I gave the boat a firm push away from the dock. The weight of the boat resulted in a bing bang an a released passerelle with surpisingly little damage to the gelcoat. Careful, the passerelle is REALLY heavy! Make sure it’s tied to the boat so it does not become an anchor, also limit the slack on the mooring lines. 

You will need 3 or 4 persons to lift the thing off the boat. A new rotary actuator will set you back 5 or 6k$. Mine was seized up solid and beyond repair. And then the rest...

Good luck with the project, if you need more info, let me know. 


Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121

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Martin Bevan
 

Could you add Caduceus of Burnham, 54 #56, completed March 2017. Martin and Elizabeth Bevan. 

Thank you
Martin