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Re: A54 Engine Transmission (ZF25)

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Arno;

 

We had a Z25 manual on board, when we purchased Kokomo. The oil and filter change of the Z25 is a fairly simple process. Make sure you use the proper Automatic Transmission Oil. Going off memory, I believe it is a dexron III  or higher.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Luijten via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2020 12:19 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 Engine Transmission (ZF25)

 

Hi Mohammad,

You must be one of the few doing this with so much dedication! Which user manual are you referring to? It's the first time I've heard this as normally moist cannot enter the gearbox.
But I think it is about time I start refreshing the reverse-gear-oil...

Thanks,

Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121


Original wall lights A54

Arno Luijten
 

Dear Forum,

At cost of postage I have some original wall lights for most of the Amel 54's at offer.
I replaced all of my lights as several of them were getting pretty ugly. I still have 6 in good shape and 4 in reasonable state that should come out well once polished. The glass is still clear for all of them. I threw away the ones were the glass was stained by the heat.
Let me know if you are interested.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


 


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Re: A54 Engine Transmission (ZF25)

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Mohammad,

You must be one of the few doing this with so much dedication! Which user manual are you referring to? It's the first time I've heard this as normally moist cannot enter the gearbox.
But I think it is about time I start refreshing the reverse-gear-oil...

Thanks,

Arno Luijten,
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: File /disk brake A54 slipping shaky.mov uploaded

 

Ralph,

No need to apologize. I was adding clarity for other owners who probably need to check this.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 12:42 PM Ralph Heilig <ralph.heilig@...> wrote:
sorry for my english, i meant the bushing when I wrote bolt. And I meant the bolt when I wrote screw.

the bolt (screw) is perfect. Also the other caliper arm is ok. the bushing is only worn where it hold the weight...


Re: File /disk brake A54 slipping shaky.mov uploaded

Ralph Heilig
 

There is a simple test if the bushing is ok. Just try to move the whole brakecylinder up (as in my video). If you can move it up 1or 2 cm like in my video, it look's like the bushing is worn. If you cant move it, all should be fine. I could move mine very easy with 2 fingers.


Re: File /disk brake A54 slipping shaky.mov uploaded

Ralph Heilig
 
Edited

sorry for my english, i meant the bushing when I wrote bolt. And I meant the bolt when I wrote screw.

the bolt (screw) is perfect. Also the other caliper arm is ok. the bushing is only worn where it hold the weight...

So here is the corrected version:

The primary source was the aluminum bushing between the holding bolt and the caliper. As you can see, the bushing is worn on the caliper arm, that holds all the weigth of the brake system.  Also the holes of this caliper arm are expanded / outworn (short before cracking). The outer arm of the caliper is fine. Also no damage on the bushing where it holds the outer arm. 


Re: File /disk brake A54 slipping shaky.mov uploaded

 

The bushing is what wore out first, then the worn bushing caused the holes in the caliper to wear. 
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The bolt you mentioned retains the bushing in place:
image.png

I am very surprised at this bushing wear. I would suggest that other SM and 54 owners inspect this bushing.


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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 12:00 PM Ralph Heilig <ralph.heilig@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Here the feedback of the source of my shaky (no more working) brake problem.




The primary source was the aluminum bolt between the holding screw and the caliper. As you can see, the bolt is worn on the caliper arm, that holds all the weigth of the brake system.  Also the holes of this caliper arm are expanded / outworn (short before cracking). The outer arm of the caliper is fine. Also no damage on the bolt. 

A friend of mine  had the same problem. His AMEL 54 is nearly the same age as mine (2009).

Amel was very helpful and they send me the new caliper now. The new model already discussed here in the forum.

I hope it fit's into my caliper holding.

So it looks like it's something that will come up earlier or later on all 54's, since the aluminium bolt is not designed (or underdimensioned) to hold the weight of the braksystem a livetime....

I have 1.700 engine hours.

Ralph
AMEL 54, #144


Re: File /disk brake A54 slipping shaky.mov uploaded

Ralph Heilig
 
Edited

Here the feedback of the source of my shaky (no more working) brake problem.




The primary source was the aluminum bolt between the holding screw and the caliper. As you can see, the bolt is worn on the caliper arm, that holds all the weigth of the brake system.  Also the holes of this caliper arm are expanded / outworn (short before cracking). The outer arm of the caliper is fine. Also no damage on the bolt. 

A friend of mine  had the same problem. His AMEL 54 is nearly the same age as mine (2009).

Amel was very helpful and they send me the new caliper now. The new model already discussed here in the forum.

I hope it fit's into my caliper holding.

So it looks like it's something that will come up earlier or later on all 54's, since the aluminium bolt is not designed (or underdimensioned) to hold the weight of the braksystem a livetime....

I have 1.700 engine hours.

Ralph
AMEL 54, #144


Re: Passerelle

Craig Briggs
 
Edited

Vic,
There are some "standard" teak steps available that have non-slip grooves on one side. You may have to trim them a bit.  You can also cut grooves in a flat board with a table saw.
The steps screw onto the tabs of your ladder from the bottom side. When you install them, first put the passerelle plywood in place, turn it upside down and then lay in the steps so they will support the plywood along its length after they are fastened. (The end ones, in particular, need to be spaced so the plywood can slip into its retaining structure.)
Hope this helps.
By the way, where is Moon Dog locarted.
-- Craig, SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Passerelle

Vic Fryzel
 

Also, have folks had the steps/platform redone on their passerelle? Mine are missing. Just curious if anyone has any advice there too.

Thanks!
- Vic


On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 8:38 AM Vic Fryzel via groups.io <vic.fryzel=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is really great info. Will try all of this out! Thanks!

-Vic "Moon Dog" SM248


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 6:40 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
There are a number of other things for the passerelle.
Attached to my starboard backstay is a tubular rod that swings down and goes into a ring welded to the starboard side of the passarelle.
This prevents the passerelle from swinging back and forth.
The starboard halyard on the mizzen is connected to a piece of bungee cord. It attaches to the the stern most port loop on the top of the passerelle. If you adjust the tension correctly the passerelle will not touch the dock and to enter or exit you just pull the bungee cord down to the dock. Lastly there are 2 stainless poles with a thick line connecting them. The shackle attaches to the same spot as the bungee cord, then a stainless pole into a hole in the passarelle, more line and then the second pole into the passarelle. Finally there is a thinner line that ties to the middle stanchion on the stern. This makes a nice hand rail to balance while entering or exiting the boat.
You will find that this setup works best in the lower hole in the dstep on the stern
Fair Winds,'Eric
sm 376 Kimberlite

On August 5, 2020 at 3:48 PM Denise McGovern <Mcgovern.denise@...> wrote:

Vic, 

On ours, the wheel side goes on the dock and the boat side has a short pole that goes into one of two available corresponding holes on the stern (one on deck and one on the top step). This allows the passerelle to pivot.

Hope this helps. Someone will likely have a photo for you soon.

Denise McGovern
S/V CARA 
SM 440
Chesapeake Bay

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 3:40 PM Vic Fryzel < vic.fryzel@...> wrote:
Hi,

Can folks please link me to any resources in terms of actually attaching the passerelle to the stern? I've found a couple of photos, but mostly in the photos it seems as though folks are just tying it to a stanchion and/or davit, and it's otherwise free to roll. Is that correct assuming I set the appropriate springs?

Thanks!
-Vic "Moon Dog" SM248


 


Re: Passerelle

Vic Fryzel
 

This is really great info. Will try all of this out! Thanks!

-Vic "Moon Dog" SM248


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 6:40 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
There are a number of other things for the passerelle.
Attached to my starboard backstay is a tubular rod that swings down and goes into a ring welded to the starboard side of the passarelle.
This prevents the passerelle from swinging back and forth.
The starboard halyard on the mizzen is connected to a piece of bungee cord. It attaches to the the stern most port loop on the top of the passerelle. If you adjust the tension correctly the passerelle will not touch the dock and to enter or exit you just pull the bungee cord down to the dock. Lastly there are 2 stainless poles with a thick line connecting them. The shackle attaches to the same spot as the bungee cord, then a stainless pole into a hole in the passarelle, more line and then the second pole into the passarelle. Finally there is a thinner line that ties to the middle stanchion on the stern. This makes a nice hand rail to balance while entering or exiting the boat.
You will find that this setup works best in the lower hole in the dstep on the stern
Fair Winds,'Eric
sm 376 Kimberlite

On August 5, 2020 at 3:48 PM Denise McGovern <Mcgovern.denise@...> wrote:

Vic, 

On ours, the wheel side goes on the dock and the boat side has a short pole that goes into one of two available corresponding holes on the stern (one on deck and one on the top step). This allows the passerelle to pivot.

Hope this helps. Someone will likely have a photo for you soon.

Denise McGovern
S/V CARA 
SM 440
Chesapeake Bay

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 3:40 PM Vic Fryzel < vic.fryzel@...> wrote:
Hi,

Can folks please link me to any resources in terms of actually attaching the passerelle to the stern? I've found a couple of photos, but mostly in the photos it seems as though folks are just tying it to a stanchion and/or davit, and it's otherwise free to roll. Is that correct assuming I set the appropriate springs?

Thanks!
-Vic "Moon Dog" SM248


 


Re: A54 Engine Transmission (ZF25)

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Arno;

 

We replace the transmission oil and filter every year prior to the start of the season. I believe this is stated in the manual. Also, we fill the oil to the top (About an extra 2 liters) for winter storage. This is recommended in the manual to cover all gears to prevent rust and corrosion.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arno Luijten via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2020 5:41 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 Engine Transmission (ZF25)

 

I just uploaded the workshop manual for the engine transmission into the "/Files / Volvo Penta" section. I don't think there is a lot we can do about this thing ourselves as it needs lots of specialty tools to work on it.

One thing I did wonder about. Does anyone have recommendations about refreshing the oil in the transmission? I don't remember seeing any mention of this in the manuals.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


drawings for C drive and propulsion

Roman Lawrence
 

Hello, thanks for help with my hatches.
Are there any drawings for the C drive, and propulsion, with spare parts available?
Were to buy the spare parts? Is there an Amel shop?
 
mit feundlichem Gruß / best regards

Roman Lawrence
Schüruferstraße 202a
44269 Dortmund / germany
Email: roman.lawrence@...
Tel: 0049 (0)231 456312


drawings for C drive and propulsion

Roman Lawrence
 

Hello, thanks for help with my hatches.
Are there any drawings for the C drive, and propulsion, with spare parts available?
Were to buy the spare parts? Is there an Amel shop?
 
mit feundlichem Gruß / best regards

Roman Lawrence
Schüruferstraße 202a
44269 Dortmund / germany
Email: roman.lawrence@...
Tel: 0049 (0)231 456312


Re: A54 Engine Transmission (ZF25)

Roman Lawrence
 

Hello Arno, thanks for answering. Amel recomend every 2 years.
I wanted to have the drawing for the propulsion, to give the engeneer in the shipyard some help
 
mit feundlichem Gruß / best regards

Roman Lawrence
Schüruferstraße 202a
44269 Dortmund / germany
Email: roman.lawrence@...
Tel: 0049 (0)231 456312
 
 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 06. August 2020 um 14:40 Uhr
Von: "Arno Luijten" <arno.luijten@...>
An: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Betreff: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 Engine Transmission (ZF25)
I just uploaded the workshop manual for the engine transmission into the "/Files / Volvo Penta" section. I don't think there is a lot we can do about this thing ourselves as it needs lots of specialty tools to work on it.

One thing I did wonder about. Does anyone have recommendations about refreshing the oil in the transmission? I don't remember seeing any mention of this in the manuals.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


A54 Engine Transmission (ZF25)

Arno Luijten
 

I just uploaded the workshop manual for the engine transmission into the "/Files / Volvo Penta" section. I don't think there is a lot we can do about this thing ourselves as it needs lots of specialty tools to work on it.

One thing I did wonder about. Does anyone have recommendations about refreshing the oil in the transmission? I don't remember seeing any mention of this in the manuals.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


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Re: Passerelle

eric freedman
 

There are a number of other things for the passerelle.
Attached to my starboard backstay is a tubular rod that swings down and goes into a ring welded to the starboard side of the passarelle.
This prevents the passerelle from swinging back and forth.
The starboard halyard on the mizzen is connected to a piece of bungee cord. It attaches to the the stern most port loop on the top of the passerelle. If you adjust the tension correctly the passerelle will not touch the dock and to enter or exit you just pull the bungee cord down to the dock. Lastly there are 2 stainless poles with a thick line connecting them. The shackle attaches to the same spot as the bungee cord, then a stainless pole into a hole in the passarelle, more line and then the second pole into the passarelle. Finally there is a thinner line that ties to the middle stanchion on the stern. This makes a nice hand rail to balance while entering or exiting the boat.
You will find that this setup works best in the lower hole in the dstep on the stern
Fair Winds,'Eric
sm 376 Kimberlite

On August 5, 2020 at 3:48 PM Denise McGovern <Mcgovern.denise@...> wrote:

Vic, 

On ours, the wheel side goes on the dock and the boat side has a short pole that goes into one of two available corresponding holes on the stern (one on deck and one on the top step). This allows the passerelle to pivot.

Hope this helps. Someone will likely have a photo for you soon.

Denise McGovern
S/V CARA 
SM 440
Chesapeake Bay

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020, 3:40 PM Vic Fryzel < vic.fryzel@...> wrote:
Hi,

Can folks please link me to any resources in terms of actually attaching the passerelle to the stern? I've found a couple of photos, but mostly in the photos it seems as though folks are just tying it to a stanchion and/or davit, and it's otherwise free to roll. Is that correct assuming I set the appropriate springs?

Thanks!
-Vic "Moon Dog" SM248


 


Updated Event: YouTube link set up for the live stream included below ZOOM Meeting with Battle Born LiFePO4 Lithium Batteries - Saturday, 8 August 2020 #cal-invite

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YouTube link set up for the live stream included below ZOOM Meeting with Battle Born LiFePO4 Lithium Batteries

When:
Saturday, 8 August 2020
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:

If you are interested in Lithium batteries for your Amel, you should attend this presentation by Battle Born Batteries. Many of you know that Battle Born LiFePO4 Lithium batteries were installed in s/y DELOS. They have since been installed in several other Amels. 

I encourage you to RSVP early for this presentation.

Join Zoom Meeting
https://epfl.zoom.us/j/96789511226

Meeting ID: 967 8951 1226

Join by SIP
96789511226@...

YouTube:

From Tilo Peters: I just got the YouTube link set up for the live stream:
 

 

It’s on the AYOG channel and I uploaded the last two meetings on there as well.