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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: A54 Sleipner bowthruster uneven brush wear

 

Thanks for the details.


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018, 12:54 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Bill and 54 owners,

The issue with the Port-only-thrusting was resolved by removing and dismantling the double-solenoid power relay. After cleaning the contacts with sandpaper and corrosionX-ing the springs, it functioned correctly again. The issue was confusing because each relay would behave correctly independently (connecting the top posts and disconnecting the bottom ones) but activating the starboard one would cause the other one to loose its bottom (idle) connection(!). 

Some more info I gathered in the meantime:

* The front relay (red and blue wires) is activated for starboard operation. The back relay (red and grey wires) for port. 
* Power cables are marked A1, A2, D1, D2. A1 and A2 are the stator posts, D1 and D2 are the rotor bobin posts.
* the rotor and stator circuits are in series. The voltage of the rotor is reversed depending on direction. 
* A1 is permanently connected to batteries Neg. A2, D1 and D2 are controlled by the relays. 
* on idle, A2, D1 and D2 are connected together. 
* on Starboard, the front relay connects D2 to batteries Pos (top posts). A2 and D1 are still connected by the bottom posts of the back relay. Circuit is: Pos=D2-rotor-D1=A2-stator-A1=Neg
* on Port, the back relay connects D1 to batteries Pos (top posts). A2 and D2 are still connected by the bottom posts of the front relay. Circuit is: Pos=D1-rotor-D2=A2-stator-A1=Neg

Hope that will help,

Fair winds and happy thrusting

(Oh, and the ground circuit leak got resolved too in the operation. Not sure exactly how, but it did)

Thomas
GARULFO
AMEL 54 #122
Bonaire 


On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 21:43, S/V Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

I agree the motor is probably fine, as it can run in one direction. 
I can hear the big Albright double-solenoid motor-reversing contactor click for both starboard and port operation. So joystick is innocent.

I think i know what 4 relays you mean (in the plastic junction box) but didn't foresee they played a part in the thrusting operation. I assumed it was only the raising/lowering of the thruster, and that my problem was closer to the Side-Power unit. 

I measured voltage on the Albright contactor posts in port/starboard/idle operation to see if I can reverse engineer what is supposed to happen to the 4 power cables going into the motor.. Need to look at the results with a fresh pair of eyes in the morning. And maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree.


Thanks as always,


Thomas 
GARULFO
AMEL 54 #122
Bonaire 

On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 21:02, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thomas,

It is probably not the motor and is either the joystick or one of the 4 relays. 

Eliminate the joystick first.. 

It is unlikely that your relays are numbered because out of about 10 54s, I have only seen 1 with numbered relays, but they are all the same relay. If all 54s are wired the same, I think it will be relay #2, but, if you have a spare relay, it is easy enough to replace them one at a time until you find the culprit. Of course the problem can be corrosion between the relay terminals and the female spade connectors.

If I owned a 54, I would have 4 spare relays.

Good Luck!

On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 4:22 PM, 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Scott,

Talking of the devil...

I haven't looked into the carbon dust and brushes yet, cause I reconnected the thruster for a quick stop in a marina and after the initial 'all-good' tests, it decided to only thrust to port and not starboard....
So I've got a second issue to troubleshoot. If anyone has experienced it and has clues, it's very welcome. 

I'll check the state of the brushes for uneven wear too, to give you another data point. 
Note that i don't have an oil reservoir in my unit.


Fair winds to all,

Thomas
GARULFO
AMEL 54 #122
Bonaire 

On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 05:54, cpp_berkeley <no_reply@...> wrote:

Craig,


Answers to your questions below:

1) After we let it cool down (~30 minutes) it ran fine. Perhaps a bit weaker but that's probably to be expected considering that some of the brushes have worn down considerably and actually even cracked, exposing just bare conductors. My fear is that going forward, it will continue to overheat prematurely and leave us without a bow thruster when we most need it.

2) The sidepower bowthruster has a drain plug underwater between the two props and a fill reservoir in the bow locker. Obviously oil is changed on the hard. My understanding is that the way to change the oil is to open the plug and continue filling the reservoir until the oil coming out of the plug looks clean. That way, you don't get air into the system.

The mechanic drained all of the oil and he put the plug back and filled the reservoir. The next day, the oil level had dropped, indicating that the air migrated upwards (and/or the thick oil slowly migrated downwards). This drop in oil level continued for a few days. It seems reasonably stable now, but I'm unsure whether some air was still stuck in the gearleg and never made its way out..


Also, we now have a strong "Mass -" leak. Thomas of S/V Garulfo posted that he had a bow thruster leak, possibly from carbon dust. I'll go check that now and report back.

But in general, any idea why the carbon brushes would be wearing so unevenly?


Scott

A54 #69 

S/V Tengah 




---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :


Hi Scott,

Your post raises a couple of questions. 
1. You say the unit had a thermal shutdown - did it work after it cooled  down?  Any problems?
2. In what way did the mechanic have trouble getting air out of the system? On the SN and SM one simply turns the bottom section upside down to drain and then pours in new oil. No issue with air. Perhaps the 54 is a different design that I'm not familiar with.

Craig



Hi all,


I was coming into the quay at Zante yesterday in our A54 with about 10-15 knots on the beam and used the sidepower bow thruster in 10-15 second bursts and all of the sudden, thermal shutdown!


After executing an exciting no thruster stern-to med mooring into a tight spot (with expectant spectators!) I opened up the bow thruster compartment to see a lot of carbon dust. I took the motor cover off and inspected the brushes and found that for each of the pairs (4 pairs, 8 total brushes), one was worn MUCH more than the other one. On some pairs, it's the top one that was worn more, on some, it was the bottom one. Some brushes were down to loose wire.


On the attached photo, you can see the extent of the uneven wear for one pair.


We recently had the boatyard change the bowthruster oil and they drained it all before adding new oil, which resulted in challenges getting all the air out of the system. We then completed a 1350 mile passage. These probably have nothing to do with it, but maybe I'm wrong.


Before I go out and spend money to replace the brushes and possibly experience similar uneven wear, anyone have any ideas as to why this happened and how to rectify it?


Thanks!


Scott

A54 #69 

S/V Tengah 



 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

Patrick McAneny
 

David, You are now on the list. Email me direct in the future, so we don't clog up the Amel site. That make 15 boats, good its a big anchorage.
Thanks.

See Ya There,
Pat SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: davidlambertsen
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 4:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

 
Pat,
Please add me to the boat list for the rendezvous.  I live near St. Michaels and should be around. Last time, my boat was on the hard and I came out in my yellow center console.  Iris and Kent know how to party, we should take them up on that, for sure. 
David Lambertsen
s/v Have Fun!
1989 Maramu 258


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

davidlambertsen <no_reply@...>
 

Pat,

Please add me to the boat list for the rendezvous.  I live near St. Michaels and should be around. Last time, my boat was on the hard and I came out in my yellow center console.  Iris and Kent know how to party, we should take them up on that, for sure. 

David Lambertsen

s/v Have Fun!

1989 Maramu 258


Re: Can 220 Voltage Boat Plug Into a 115 Volt 30 Amp Shore Power

Alan Leslie
 

Thanks Bill,

Definitely on our boat, the water maker, the dive compressor, the clothes washer, the dishwasher and the microwave won't work on 60Hz...they have labels on them to that effect.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Cover for mechanical rudder indicator on Steering wheel hub

amel46met
 

If anyone finds a source I could use one Cover  also as well as the red indicator as Emerik Marine smashed mine. Tom S/Y Aphrodite 


On Jun 5, 2018, at 3:01 PM, yachtmaccabee@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

3-D printing seems like a very good idea, but I haven't found anyone to do it locally.


Steve
Yacht MACCABEE
Sharki #121


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Tmd22a is what Perkins

Patrick McAneny
 

Hanspeter, Thank You , Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'hanspeter.baettig@...' hanspeter.baettig@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 10:58 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Tmd22a is what Perkins

 
Hello Pat
Your Volvo TMD22A ist most similar with the Perkins Prima M80T
Hope this help you
Hanspeter
SM16

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 06.06.2018 um 12:53 schrieb sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 
I have spent many hours trying to find the end caps for the heat exchanger on the internet and a equal time trying to determine this question. My 1994 Volvo TMD22A is which Perkins engine. Does someone know ? The parts for a Perkins is easier to find and cheaper. I see end caps for a Perkins for $38 /pair , my local Volvo dealer quoted me $188/each. Is it a Perkins 4-108 , M50 ,M80 or something else? Presently my engine  cannot be ran and as I am on a mooring,I am uncomfortable with that and need to obtain these new caps asap.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: A54 Sleipner bowthruster uneven brush wear

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Bill and 54 owners,

The issue with the Port-only-thrusting was resolved by removing and dismantling the double-solenoid power relay. After cleaning the contacts with sandpaper and corrosionX-ing the springs, it functioned correctly again. The issue was confusing because each relay would behave correctly independently (connecting the top posts and disconnecting the bottom ones) but activating the starboard one would cause the other one to loose its bottom (idle) connection(!). 

Some more info I gathered in the meantime:

* The front relay (red and blue wires) is activated for starboard operation. The back relay (red and grey wires) for port. 
* Power cables are marked A1, A2, D1, D2. A1 and A2 are the stator posts, D1 and D2 are the rotor bobin posts.
* the rotor and stator circuits are in series. The voltage of the rotor is reversed depending on direction. 
* A1 is permanently connected to batteries Neg. A2, D1 and D2 are controlled by the relays. 
* on idle, A2, D1 and D2 are connected together. 
* on Starboard, the front relay connects D2 to batteries Pos (top posts). A2 and D1 are still connected by the bottom posts of the back relay. Circuit is: Pos=D2-rotor-D1=A2-stator-A1=Neg
* on Port, the back relay connects D1 to batteries Pos (top posts). A2 and D2 are still connected by the bottom posts of the front relay. Circuit is: Pos=D1-rotor-D2=A2-stator-A1=Neg

Hope that will help,

Fair winds and happy thrusting

(Oh, and the ground circuit leak got resolved too in the operation. Not sure exactly how, but it did)

Thomas
GARULFO
AMEL 54 #122
Bonaire 


On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 21:43, S/V Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

I agree the motor is probably fine, as it can run in one direction. 
I can hear the big Albright double-solenoid motor-reversing contactor click for both starboard and port operation. So joystick is innocent.

I think i know what 4 relays you mean (in the plastic junction box) but didn't foresee they played a part in the thrusting operation. I assumed it was only the raising/lowering of the thruster, and that my problem was closer to the Side-Power unit. 

I measured voltage on the Albright contactor posts in port/starboard/idle operation to see if I can reverse engineer what is supposed to happen to the 4 power cables going into the motor. Need to look at the results with a fresh pair of eyes in the morning. And maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree.


Thanks as always,


Thomas 
GARULFO
AMEL 54 #122
Bonaire 

On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 21:02, Bill Rouse brouse@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thomas,

It is probably not the motor and is either the joystick or one of the 4 relays. 

Eliminate the joystick first. 

It is unlikely that your relays are numbered because out of about 10 54s, I have only seen 1 with numbered relays, but they are all the same relay. If all 54s are wired the same, I think it will be relay #2, but, if you have a spare relay, it is easy enough to replace them one at a time until you find the culprit. Of course the problem can be corrosion between the relay terminals and the female spade connectors.

If I owned a 54, I would have 4 spare relays.

Good Luck!

On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 4:22 PM, 'S/V Garulfo' svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Scott,

Talking of the devil...

I haven't looked into the carbon dust and brushes yet, cause I reconnected the thruster for a quick stop in a marina and after the initial 'all-good' tests, it decided to only thrust to port and not starboard....
So I've got a second issue to troubleshoot. If anyone has experienced it and has clues, it's very welcome. 

I'll check the state of the brushes for uneven wear too, to give you another data point. 
Note that i don't have an oil reservoir in my unit.


Fair winds to all,

Thomas
GARULFO
AMEL 54 #122
Bonaire 

On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 05:54, cpp_berkeley <no_reply@...> wrote:

Craig,


Answers to your questions below:

1) After we let it cool down (~30 minutes) it ran fine. Perhaps a bit weaker but that's probably to be expected considering that some of the brushes have worn down considerably and actually even cracked, exposing just bare conductors. My fear is that going forward, it will continue to overheat prematurely and leave us without a bow thruster when we most need it.

2) The sidepower bowthruster has a drain plug underwater between the two props and a fill reservoir in the bow locker. Obviously oil is changed on the hard. My understanding is that the way to change the oil is to open the plug and continue filling the reservoir until the oil coming out of the plug looks clean. That way, you don't get air into the system.

The mechanic drained all of the oil and he put the plug back and filled the reservoir. The next day, the oil level had dropped, indicating that the air migrated upwards (and/or the thick oil slowly migrated downwards). This drop in oil level continued for a few days. It seems reasonably stable now, but I'm unsure whether some air was still stuck in the gearleg and never made its way out..


Also, we now have a strong "Mass -" leak. Thomas of S/V Garulfo posted that he had a bow thruster leak, possibly from carbon dust. I'll go check that now and report back.

But in general, any idea why the carbon brushes would be wearing so unevenly?


Scott

A54 #69 

S/V Tengah 




---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :


Hi Scott,

Your post raises a couple of questions. 
1. You say the unit had a thermal shutdown - did it work after it cooled  down?  Any problems?
2. In what way did the mechanic have trouble getting air out of the system? On the SN and SM one simply turns the bottom section upside down to drain and then pours in new oil. No issue with air. Perhaps the 54 is a different design that I'm not familiar with.

Craig



Hi all,


I was coming into the quay at Zante yesterday in our A54 with about 10-15 knots on the beam and used the sidepower bow thruster in 10-15 second bursts and all of the sudden, thermal shutdown!


After executing an exciting no thruster stern-to med mooring into a tight spot (with expectant spectators!) I opened up the bow thruster compartment to see a lot of carbon dust. I took the motor cover off and inspected the brushes and found that for each of the pairs (4 pairs, 8 total brushes), one was worn MUCH more than the other one. On some pairs, it's the top one that was worn more, on some, it was the bottom one. Some brushes were down to loose wire.


On the attached photo, you can see the extent of the uneven wear for one pair.


We recently had the boatyard change the bowthruster oil and they drained it all before adding new oil, which resulted in challenges getting all the air out of the system. We then completed a 1350 mile passage. These probably have nothing to do with it, but maybe I'm wrong.


Before I go out and spend money to replace the brushes and possibly experience similar uneven wear, anyone have any ideas as to why this happened and how to rectify it?


Thanks!


Scott

A54 #69 

S/V Tengah 



 



Re: Can 220 Voltage Boat Plug Into a 115 Volt 30 Amp Shore Power

greatketch@...
 

Bill,

If you are in Fort Lauderdale and need help adapting a SM to USA shore power, you should call Joel Potter.  He is local to you, and has more experience with more Super Maramus than anyone not living in La Rochelle.  As Amel's rep in the USA for decades, he knows this issue cold.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Tmd22a is what Perkins

hanspeter baettig
 

Hello Pat
Your Volvo TMD22A ist most similar with the Perkins Prima M80T
Hope this help you
Hanspeter
SM16

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 06.06.2018 um 12:53 schrieb sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

I have spent many hours trying to find the end caps for the heat exchanger on the internet and a equal time trying to determine this question. My 1994 Volvo TMD22A is which Perkins engine. Does someone know ? The parts for a Perkins is easier to find and cheaper. I see end caps for a Perkins for $38 /pair , my local Volvo dealer quoted me $188/each. Is it a Perkins 4-108 , M50 ,M80 or something else? Presently my engine  cannot be ran and as I am on a mooring,I am uncomfortable with that and need to obtain these new caps asap.

Thanks,

Pat

SM Shenanigans


Re: Can 220 Voltage Boat Plug Into a 115 Volt 30 Amp Shore Power

greatketch@...
 

Alan,

We have the Amel installed transformer to convert 110V shore power to 220V.  As you say, it does nothing to change the frequency.  We are routinely plugged into 110V/60Hz shore power, and of course away from the dock use our generator which makes 220V/50Hz. 

On our boat most things work happily with either 50Hz or 60Hz, with the very important exception of the clothes washer.  I am told if it sees 60Hz, it suffers irreparable brain death very quickly. I have never had the urge to test that piece of information! The microwave might also be an issue depending on the model.  Please note, I am ONLY talking about frequency here, NOT voltage!  Most devices do not work on the wrong voltage.  Almost every device will have a label somewhere that lists the appropriate voltages and frequencies.

Certainly on our boat, we have found many things work with either frequency--except the laundry.

Here are the things we use that work with either frequency (note, I do not guarantee that YOUR appliances will be the same!)  
Air Conditioners
Water Heater
All of our phone and computing device chargers.
Battery chargers
Water kettle
Kitchen mixer
hair dryer

Things that do not work on the wrong frequency (again, yours might be different)
wet/dry vacuum
coffee grinder
Clothes washer
microwave

For most AC electric motors changing the frequency will change the operating speed.  For most devices this is not an issue.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Slowing down in increasing winds

greatketch@...
 

Hans-Peter,

The mizzen boom on my boat most certainly can hit the twin backstays. I just went on deck to confirm.

The Main boon can hit the main mast back stay, but only IF the permanent fixed vang was not installed.

Hope that makes it clear..

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD, USA


Re: Bimini replacement cost

Paul Osterberg
 

Roger
We made a new bimini sprayhood a few years ago, with total cockpit enclosure, if you search for Kerpa in the photo sektion We will find pictures of it. We are very Please with the new design that keep rain and spray out, openings that allow wind to cool down warm days and me to have very good visibility when for example docking, Including mosquitos screen  and extend the height of the SS bars about 10 cm the cost was ca 3000 usd in Turkey.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Re: Dessalator Duo 160 - AC Motor for High Pressure Pump

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Heinz,

Thank you very much for sharing that information.  It is most helpful,

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Fort Louis Marina - Saint Martin


Re: Dessalator Duo 160 - AC Motor for High Pressure Pump

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Bill,

Thank you.  That is what I figured, but it is always nice to have confirmation from those in the know.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Fort Louis Marina - Saint Martin


Tmd22a is what Perkins

Patrick McAneny
 

I have spent many hours trying to find the end caps for the heat exchanger on the internet and a equal time trying to determine this question. My 1994 Volvo TMD22A is which Perkins engine. Does someone know ? The parts for a Perkins is easier to find and cheaper. I see end caps for a Perkins for $38 /pair , my local Volvo dealer quoted me $188/each. Is it a Perkins 4-108 , M50 ,M80 or something else? Presently my engine  cannot be ran and as I am on a mooring,I am uncomfortable with that and need to obtain these new caps asap.

Thanks,

Pat

SM Shenanigans


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

Patrick McAneny
 

Kent, Sorry I missed your call yesterday, hosting a party is quite generous . When we get a final head count maybe we can identify what kind of transportation we would need . If a bus , then we could all chip in to cover the expense . I know there is at least one Uber in town, as we came out last year to your home in it for another party. Maybe you could check to see if there is a few more. 
Say Hi ! to Iris and Thank you,
Pat & Diane,
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 6:22 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

 
Iris and I will be there, and would like to host a cocktail/hors d’oeuvres party at our place on Wednesday.  I’ll see if I can arrange transportation to and from the dinghy dock.

Sounds like quite a gathering...Thanks Pat and Diane for taking the lead..

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243
St Michaels, MD


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

karkauai
 

Iris and I will be there, and would like to host a cocktail/hors d’oeuvres party at our place on Wednesday.  I’ll see if I can arrange transportation to and from the dinghy dock.

Sounds like quite a gathering...Thanks Pat and Diane for taking the lead.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243
St Michaels, MD


Re: Can 220 Voltage Boat Plug Into a 115 Volt 30 Amp Shore Power

Alan Leslie
 

There is no transformer that will turn 120V 60 Hz into 230V 50Hz...the 230V will still be 60Hz...and correct most of the AC appliances on the boat won't work with that
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Can 220 Voltage Boat Plug Into a 115 Volt 30 Amp Shore Power

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Bill,

If your battery chargers can accept 120V/60Hz, and assuming you wire the connection correctly, you could plug in.  For example, we have Mastervolt battery chargers which are able to use 120V/60Hz.

Assuming you don't have a 120V/60Hz to 230V/50Hz transformer on board, then the dishwasher, washer, microwave, air conditioning, anything you plug into the outlets, etc., will die promptly if you turn them on while plugged to 120V/60Hz.

Bottom line, even if you are able to plug into 120V/60Hz, make sure you turn off all breakers other than the battery charger.

Also, even if you get one of those expensive "Y" connectors that plug into two 120V outlets to make 240V, remember, the "Y" connector will still pass thru 60Hz, which your battery charger may (or may not) take, but which will kill all other devices except the Climma A/C, and even those will suffer with shortened-life capacitors.

Cheers,

Peregrinus
SM2K N. 350 (2002)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Can 220 Voltage Boat Plug Into a 115 Volt 30 Amp Shore Power

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Bill,

If you plug in directly, I can promise something bad will happen.  There are two possibilities for what those other boats were doing:

  1. they used a step-up transformer.  I know some Amels have this, I think as a factory option.  It's a common modification for those in the US, though they're large, heavy, and expensive.  Not my favorite approach.
  2. They use a Y adapter to plug into two 30A/120V shore power receptacles.  You need to be very careful doing this.  Because the USA uses a split-phase power system, if you combine opposite 120V phases, you can get 240V.  Often the two phases will be wired to two receptacles on the same pedestal on the dock, but you need to check with a multimeter because they could be the same phase or even from different circuits entirely, both of which would be dangerous and/or not do what you want.  They do make "smart" Y adapters, such as the Marinco RY504-2-30, which will prevent you from attaching it wrong.  I would go with one of these.  You'd still want to check the dock with a meter before you buy it just to be sure it will work.
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA



On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 7:34 PM, pacificcool@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I've just arrived in Fort Lauderdale (after sailing through Albert) and an staying in the Bahia Mar Marina which is a about $100 per day.  I intend to sell Pacific Cool and want to move to one of the private docks that rent for about $650 per month.  My boat is a 220 voltage boat built for a French owner and then bought by me.  But I've never been in the US with hr as I was sailing around the world as soon as I bought her.


I have found a dock that has only 115 regular  house voltage.  The owner tells me that in the past all of the 220 volt boats were able to plug in.  Does anyone know what might happen if I plug into the 115 power outlet?  I have 8 brand new Lifeline AGM batteries and would hate to do something bad to them.  I may be able to use my 370 watts of solar panels and a wind generator to charge the batteries, but that won't allow any AC power on the boat.  I'll turn off all my 24 volt equipment tomorrow and see if there's enough juice to just charge the batteries.  But I'd prefer to have AC power as well.  


Any help appreciated.  My boat is from 1995 and is a 53 foot Super Maramu with a 80 Amp Victron Battery Charger and D400 wind generator with 370 watts of solar panels. 


Bill Shaproski  

S/V Pacific Cool


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