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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

That's why I asked if it was US tons. A tonne and an imperial ton are very close. US tons, lighter. Like US gallons.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 29 Nov 2017 18:42, "seagasm@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Don't get confused with Tonnes (metric) and Tons (imperial). Tonne is an alternate spelling used to describe a metric ton. It is almost never used in American English, but it is widely used outside of the United States. Again, a tonne, also known as a metric ton, is a unit of measurement equal to 1,000 kilograms. A tonne is larger than a U.S. ton.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM # 171


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

seagasm
 

Don't get confused with Tonnes (metric) and Tons (imperial). Tonne is an alternate spelling used to describe a metric ton. It is almost never used in American English, but it is widely used outside of the United States. Again, a tonne, also known as a metric ton, is a unit of measurement equal to 1,000 kilograms. A tonne is larger than a U.S. ton.

Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM # 171


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Follow on from my previous. That is way more than Amel specs.
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean Pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 29 Nov 2017 18:29, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kimberlites stated tonnage on the USA Documentation is 25 net tons and 28 gross  tons.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

 

 

Hi, 

On the travel lift scales Ocean Pearl is 18 tonnes loaded, if the scales are correct.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 29 November 2017 at 09:21 "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Jeppe,

First congratulations on become the new owner of SM2K #464.
Must be one of the last one commissioned!

On my British Registry both “Gross” and “Net” Tonnage showed 27.03 Tons (76.49 Cubic Meres).
Quite frankly I don’t know if these number are accurate, but if it helps you I can email you the copy of that certificate.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 11/28/17, jej@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 1:41 PM


 









Dear SaoleileI have just become the owner
of SM464 and I also need to produce the calculations leading
to the gross/net  tonnage, so that the official measure can
make the International certificate of
tonnage.Have you recieved any info which can
help?Kind RegardsJeppe, SM464




 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

eric freedman
 

I am not sure,

The numbers came from Amel when she was made.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 12:39 AM
To: 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

 

 

That would be US tons?

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 29 Nov 2017 18:29, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kimberlites stated tonnage on the USA Documentation is 25 net tons and 28 gross  tons.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

 

 

Hi, 

On the travel lift scales Ocean Pearl is 18 tonnes loaded, if the scales are correct.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 29 November 2017 at 09:21 "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Jeppe,

First congratulations on become the new owner of SM2K #464.
Must be one of the last one commissioned!

On my British Registry both “Gross” and “Net” Tonnage showed 27.03 Tons (76.49 Cubic Meres).
Quite frankly I don’t know if these number are accurate, but if it helps you I can email you the copy of that certificate.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 11/28/17, jej@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 1:41 PM


 









Dear SaoleileI have just become the owner
of SM464 and I also need to produce the calculations leading
to the gross/net  tonnage, so that the official measure can
make the International certificate of
tonnage.Have you recieved any info which can
help?Kind RegardsJeppe, SM464





 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

That would be US tons?

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 29 Nov 2017 18:29, "'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Kimberlites stated tonnage on the USA Documentation is 25 net tons and 28 gross  tons.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

 

 

Hi, 

On the travel lift scales Ocean Pearl is 18 tonnes loaded, if the scales are correct.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 29 November 2017 at 09:21 "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Jeppe,

First congratulations on become the new owner of SM2K #464.
Must be one of the last one commissioned!

On my British Registry both “Gross” and “Net” Tonnage showed 27.03 Tons (76.49 Cubic Meres).
Quite frankly I don’t know if these number are accurate, but if it helps you I can email you the copy of that certificate.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 11/28/17, jej@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 1:41 PM


 









Dear SaoleileI have just become the owner
of SM464 and I also need to produce the calculations leading
to the gross/net  tonnage, so that the official measure can
make the International certificate of
tonnage.Have you recieved any info which can
help?Kind RegardsJeppe, SM464




 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

eric freedman
 

Kimberlites stated tonnage on the USA Documentation is 25 net tons and 28 gross  tons.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

 

 

Hi, 

On the travel lift scales Ocean Pearl is 18 tonnes loaded, if the scales are correct.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 29 November 2017 at 09:21 "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Jeppe,

First congratulations on become the new owner of SM2K #464.
Must be one of the last one commissioned!

On my British Registry both “Gross” and “Net” Tonnage showed 27.03 Tons (76.49 Cubic Meres).
Quite frankly I don’t know if these number are accurate, but if it helps you I can email you the copy of that certificate.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 11/28/17, jej@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 1:41 PM


 









Dear SaoleileI have just become the owner
of SM464 and I also need to produce the calculations leading
to the gross/net  tonnage, so that the official measure can
make the International certificate of
tonnage.Have you recieved any info which can
help?Kind RegardsJeppe, SM464




 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Carrying spare rigging ?

smiles bernard
 

its just dawned on me that both the terminals in the picture i uploaded would work with Peters suggested option of a wire 'tail' section and a swaged eye fitting plus some bulldog clamps or the dyneema soft shackle option Bill explained

I'll double check whats aloft when i'm next onboard in a few weeks!

All the best

Miles

On Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 9:49:08 PM GMT, 'smilesbernard@...' smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

thanks all!
yes i have been wondering about the dyneema option. It does seem like a good one
Peter's idea about the wire clamps is a good one - i took this setup with me last time i went long distance but it only really helps with a wire failure at deck level
after crossing the atlantic in my previous old 30fter my brand new aft lower on the windward side had begun to fray but right at the swagged mast fitting to wire junction. So i could not repair it. luckily i carried old rigging spares and had a spare mast swage fitting so a local rigger could make a replacement.

My current rig is from 2012 and was apparently replaced by an Amel experienced rigger in S france. I'm therefore hopeful it'll be ok for a N atlantic circuit.....

the question in my mind is always the mast fitting side of things.... thats the harder part.
At a push i suppose one could loop a dyneema temporary stay over the opposite spreader if there was a problem with the lower shrouds or attach it to a cotterpin at the mast head?


thanks for all the thoughts - very much appreciated

btw i found these spares onboard -  my lower shroud mast terminals look like the  cup and ball fitting on the right of the attached photo which is new to me. I might see if there are any staylok etc options . . . .
I presume the fitting on the left will make sense once i have climbed to the mast head!

Thanks all!

Fair winds

Miles

On Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 4:47:09 PM GMT, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Miles,


Dyneema is the way to go for emergency replacement rigging.  It is stronger than you need, you can carry 100 feet of it in a tiny little space (Unlike wire!)  It doesn't care if it sits in water or even oil. Just throw it in the bilge and forget about it until you need it.  It is ridiculously easy to splice, and it is way stronger than you need.

You do need to do some thinking ahead of time about how you would attach it to the mast, spreaders, and chainplates but you can do some very creative things with homemade soft shackles.  It is very rare that a rigging wire fails in the run of the wire, it almost always the terminal hardware that fails so you can not count on having that to attach to. 

Size the dyneema not based on strength (that would be too stretchy) but rather on (approximately) matching the stretch of the SS wire it is replacing.  A rough rule of thumb is two times the diameter of the stainless wire.  These guys have a lot of fittings and know-how on dyneema rigging: http://www.colligomarine.com

My old boat (a 40 foot cruising ketch) actually had an all dyneema rig.  People laughed, it is supposed to be a race boat thing, but getting rid of several hundred pounds of weight up high in the rig made a huge difference in the boat's performance to windward.

I am not sure what you mean when you write, "aft lowers seem to take a lot of working on ocean crossings." If you can see them moving around (working?) then they are MUCH too loose.  In a properly tuned rig some of the tension will come off the leeward wires in a stiff breeze, but if they get loose enough they are moving around, that's a problem.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <smilesbernard@...> wrote :

Hello there

I'd value this groups thoughts on carrying spare rigging on long journeys - to allow for repairs on passage or in remote locations.

What supplies do you carry ?

My 1985 isomat masted (single spreader) maramu is pretty new to me and I've yet to see the masthead and the rigging terminals up there but the aft lowers have a ball and cup system that then locates into he spreader -to- mast attachment. In my experience aft lowers seem to take a lot of working on ocean crossings I was going to see about sourcing a spare to allow basic at sea repairs.

Anyway it'd be great to hear people's approach!

I wonder people dyneema based options for a 'get me home' jury rig and any mast / turnbuckle attachments these require?

All the best

Miles
Maramu 1985




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Quantity and Type of Primary Rode

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Mark,

on our primary anchor we have 100 meters of 10 mm chain plus spliced to it a further 100 meters of nylon anchor rode, I think 25mm. To achieve a splice that goes through the entry to the hause pipe I had to splice into two chain links. In deeper water or strong winds it is not unusual to utilise all the chain and some nylon. Our second anchor (stowed in the port forward deck locker) we have 50 meters of 10 mm chain and 80 meters of nylon anchor rode. In addition we have a significant length of 20 mm nylon rode attached to our sea anchor which can be utilised.

Regards

Danny 

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 29 November 20Hi17 at 10:01 "isaac_02906@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello All,


I believe I have a solid idea of the chain vs rope, BBB vs G40 and a lot vs a little compromises associated with anchor rode.  I would like to know what you actually carry and if you wished you carried something different or are happy with your choice.  I know we will be cruising the Bahamas and Caribbean, but beyond those areas is possible and I would like to be prepared for beyond....so basically, what would you carry for world cruising on an Amel SM?


Mark Isaac

SM #391

Ft. Lauderdale

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi, 

On the travel lift scales Ocean Pearl is 18 tonnes loaded, if the scales are correct.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 29 November 2017 at 09:21 "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Jeppe,

First congratulations on become the new owner of SM2K #464.
Must be one of the last one commissioned!

On my British Registry both “Gross” and “Net” Tonnage showed 27.03 Tons (76.49 Cubic Meres).
Quite frankly I don’t know if these number are accurate, but if it helps you I can email you the copy of that certificate.

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 11/28/17, jej@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 1:41 PM


 









Dear SaoleileI have just become the owner
of SM464 and I also need to produce the calculations leading
to the gross/net  tonnage, so that the official measure can
make the International certificate of
tonnage.Have you recieved any info which can
help?Kind RegardsJeppe, SM464





 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Carrying spare rigging ?

smiles bernard
 

thanks all!
yes i have been wondering about the dyneema option. It does seem like a good one
Peter's idea about the wire clamps is a good one - i took this setup with me last time i went long distance but it only really helps with a wire failure at deck level
after crossing the atlantic in my previous old 30fter my brand new aft lower on the windward side had begun to fray but right at the swagged mast fitting to wire junction. So i could not repair it. luckily i carried old rigging spares and had a spare mast swage fitting so a local rigger could make a replacement.

My current rig is from 2012 and was apparently replaced by an Amel experienced rigger in S france. I'm therefore hopeful it'll be ok for a N atlantic circuit.....

the question in my mind is always the mast fitting side of things.... thats the harder part.
At a push i suppose one could loop a dyneema temporary stay over the opposite spreader if there was a problem with the lower shrouds or attach it to a cotterpin at the mast head?


thanks for all the thoughts - very much appreciated

btw i found these spares onboard -  my lower shroud mast terminals look like the  cup and ball fitting on the right of the attached photo which is new to me. I might see if there are any staylok etc options . . . .
I presume the fitting on the left will make sense once i have climbed to the mast head!

Thanks all!

Fair winds

Miles

On Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 4:47:09 PM GMT, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Miles,


Dyneema is the way to go for emergency replacement rigging.  It is stronger than you need, you can carry 100 feet of it in a tiny little space (Unlike wire!)  It doesn't care if it sits in water or even oil. Just throw it in the bilge and forget about it until you need it.  It is ridiculously easy to splice, and it is way stronger than you need.

You do need to do some thinking ahead of time about how you would attach it to the mast, spreaders, and chainplates but you can do some very creative things with homemade soft shackles.  It is very rare that a rigging wire fails in the run of the wire, it almost always the terminal hardware that fails so you can not count on having that to attach to. 

Size the dyneema not based on strength (that would be too stretchy) but rather on (approximately) matching the stretch of the SS wire it is replacing.  A rough rule of thumb is two times the diameter of the stainless wire.  These guys have a lot of fittings and know-how on dyneema rigging: http://www.colligomarine.com

My old boat (a 40 foot cruising ketch) actually had an all dyneema rig.  People laughed, it is supposed to be a race boat thing, but getting rid of several hundred pounds of weight up high in the rig made a huge difference in the boat's performance to windward.

I am not sure what you mean when you write, "aft lowers seem to take a lot of working on ocean crossings." If you can see them moving around (working?) then they are MUCH too loose.  In a properly tuned rig some of the tension will come off the leeward wires in a stiff breeze, but if they get loose enough they are moving around, that's a problem.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hello there

I'd value this groups thoughts on carrying spare rigging on long journeys - to allow for repairs on passage or in remote locations.

What supplies do you carry ?

My 1985 isomat masted (single spreader) maramu is pretty new to me and I've yet to see the masthead and the rigging terminals up there but the aft lowers have a ball and cup system that then locates into he spreader -to- mast attachment. In my experience aft lowers seem to take a lot of working on ocean crossings I was going to see about sourcing a spare to allow basic at sea repairs.

Anyway it'd be great to hear people's approach!

I wonder people dyneema based options for a 'get me home' jury rig and any mast / turnbuckle attachments these require?

All the best

Miles
Maramu 1985




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Carrying spare rigging ?

Peter Forbes
 

A bulldog clip in English English is a hoop with threaded ends and a bar across the ends and on each thread is a nut and washer all in stainless. As someone commented a wire rope clamp type thing.

Yes, I bridged the broken strands and took the load like that. The ends were swaged on eyes rather than turnbuckles( I think I used the wrong term in the original post. 

As Bill Kinney (I think says - and he seems a wise fellow) dyneema is another solution which is very flexible. Somehow I thought that the situation when I discovered a strand break might not be that kind in weather terms and my solution was very simple and easy to apply although I had to go up to the first cross trees. I also had dyneema rope up the front and back of each mast which I could use. This could help recover a man overboard as well -we had a deplorable blanket type arrangement for MoB recovery and the dyneema external halyard. We never had that problem thank goodness.

There are many solutions but that was mine in two layers.

Best wishes

Peter

Peter Forbes
00447836 209730

On 28 Nov 2017, at 12:47, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Miles,


Dyneema is the way to go for emergency replacement rigging.  It is stronger than you need, you can carry 100 feet of it in a tiny little space (Unlike wire!)  It doesn't care if it sits in water or even oil. Just throw it in the bilge and forget about it until you need it.  It is ridiculously easy to splice, and it is way stronger than you need.

You do need to do some thinking ahead of time about how you would attach it to the mast, spreaders, and chainplates but you can do some very creative things with homemade soft shackles.  It is very rare that a rigging wire fails in the run of the wire, it almost always the terminal hardware that fails so you can not count on having that to attach to. 

Size the dyneema not based on strength (that would be too stretchy) but rather on (approximately) matching the stretch of the SS wire it is replacing.  A rough rule of thumb is two times the diameter of the stainless wire.  These guys have a lot of fittings and know-how on dyneema rigging: http://www.colligomarine.com

My old boat (a 40 foot cruising ketch) actually had an all dyneema rig.  People laughed, it is supposed to be a race boat thing, but getting rid of several hundred pounds of weight up high in the rig made a huge difference in the boat's performance to windward.

I am not sure what you mean when you write, "aft lowers seem to take a lot of working on ocean crossings." If you can see them moving around (working?) then they are MUCH too loose.  In a properly tuned rig some of the tension will come off the leeward wires in a stiff breeze, but if they get loose enough they are moving around, that's a problem.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Hello there

I'd value this groups thoughts on carrying spare rigging on long journeys - to allow for repairs on passage or in remote locations.

What supplies do you carry ?

My 1985 isomat masted (single spreader) maramu is pretty new to me and I've yet to see the masthead and the rigging terminals up there but the aft lowers have a ball and cup system that then locates into he spreader -to- mast attachment. In my experience aft lowers seem to take a lot of working on ocean crossings I was going to see about sourcing a spare to allow basic at sea repairs.

Anyway it'd be great to hear people's approach!

I wonder people dyneema based options for a 'get me home' jury rig and any mast / turnbuckle attachments these require?

All the best

Miles
Maramu 1985




Re: Quantity and Type of Primary Rode

greatketch@...
 

Our boat has been on two circumnavigations (so far!) with 60 meters of G40, and an additional 100 meters of line.  

Cruising this boat in the Caribbean and US East coast we haven't yet used all the chain.  Anchorages in the Pacific tend to be deeper, and more is better.

That's what we have...  If I was equipping the boat myself from scratch I'd go with 80, maybe even as much as 100 meters of chain and groan a lot about the excess weight... until I really needed it!

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Quantity and Type of Primary Rode

Jean-Pierre Germain <jgermain@...>
 

I have 100 meters of 10mm G40.  Add 50 meters of rode. 

You will be glad to have lots very soon after you begin cruising 

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY ELEUTHERA, SM007
Panama


On 28 Nov 2017, at 16:01, isaac_02906@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello All,


I believe I have a solid idea of the chain vs rope, BBB vs G40 and a lot vs a little compromises associated with anchor rode.  I would like to know what you actually carry and if you wished you carried something different or are happy with your choice.  I know we will be cruising the Bahamas and Caribbean, but beyond those areas is possible and I would like to be prepared for beyond....so basically, what would you carry for world cruising on an Amel SM?


Mark Isaac

SM #391

Ft. Lauderdale


Quantity and Type of Primary Rode

Mark Isaac
 

Hello All,


I believe I have a solid idea of the chain vs rope, BBB vs G40 and a lot vs a little compromises associated with anchor rode.  I would like to know what you actually carry and if you wished you carried something different or are happy with your choice.  I know we will be cruising the Bahamas and Caribbean, but beyond those areas is possible and I would like to be prepared for beyond....so basically, what would you carry for world cruising on an Amel SM?


Mark Isaac

SM #391

Ft. Lauderdale


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

Jeppe Jonsson
 

Dear Alexandre
Thanks, however I expect that your document is not based on the Internatonal Tonnage Certificate and related calculation, since the British Registry does not demand this when the ship is less than 24m. Therefore your Tonnage is based on the simple approximate formula:
 length x width x debth x 0.16 = tonnage

Rhumb Runner was also British, however as the Irish also the Danish Registry is very demanding above 15m.

Otherwise I am very interesser in the document if it includes the relevant volumens used for the detailleddet calculation.

Kind Regards
Jeppe , email:  jej at byg.dtu.dk


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Jeppe,

First congratulations on become the new owner of SM2K #464.
Must be one of the last one commissioned!

On my British Registry both “Gross” and “Net” Tonnage showed 27.03 Tons (76.49 Cubic Meres).
Quite frankly I don’t know if these number are accurate, but if it helps you I can email you the copy of that certificate.

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 11/28/17, @Jep [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Tonnage
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017, 1:41 PM


 









Dear SaoleileI have just become the owner
of SM464 and I also need to produce the calculations leading
to the gross/net  tonnage, so that the official measure can
make the International certificate of
tonnage.Have you recieved any info which can
help?Kind RegardsJeppe, SM464


Re: Carrying spare rigging ?

sbmesasailor
 

Hi Miles,

Peter's solution is one of many temporary repair systems.  You could also employ some swageless terminals to repair failing wire.

How old is your rigging?  Most insurance companies will not offer insurance for boats with rigging over ten years old.  If your rigging is nearing that age or older, you might want to consider replacing it and then saving one of each of the lengths to replace in the unlikely event of an observable weakness.

Our experience was that the Maramu was over-engineered in many areas, one of them being the rigging.  The Amel is not a racer and the sail plan does not exert the level of stress on the rigging that you will find other designs have.  If your rigging is good quality and is relatively new, you should not worry too much about failure.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121



Re: Tonnage

Jeppe Jonsson
 

Dear Saoleile
I have just become the owner of SM464 and I also need to produce the calculations leading to the gross/net  tonnage, so that the official measure can make the International certificate of tonnage.
Have you recieved any info which can help?
Kind Regards
Jeppe, SM464


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Digest Number 5391

james Hosford
 

Thanks, really like the galley in the 53 but it’s a little out if my price range and it’s just me and maybe one other person so thought the 48 might be a better fit. Only thing I didn’t care for is the galley setup. I’ll just have to get on one to see what it’s like in person.

On Nov 28, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Dennis Johns sbmesasailor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Jay,

You should have a hole in the floor at about the center of the galley. The stool at the nav station can be removed and placed in the galley hole to brace against in rough weather. We didn't use it much as most people don't like to try to prepare meals in rough weather but it is an option for the open galley.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121


On Monday, November 27, 2017 5:30 PM, "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Amel Yacht Owners - Forum for owners of Amel sailboats Group
10 Messages Digest #5391
1a Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by bill_9895
1b Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by "Mark Erdos" markerdos
1c Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by bill_9895
1d Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by rossirossix4
1e Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by "Paul LaFrance" nomadforpaul
1f Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by "Mark Pitt" markmpitt
1g Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by "Ryan Meador" r4476243zrih6wqsypsd564pzjvuynkpgmjql77e
1h Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by "sailormon" kimberlite1212
2a Re: Flexofold Prop by bill_9895
3 48galley by "Jay Hosford" jay.hosford
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1a Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:02 pm (PST) . Posted by: bill_9895



---In amelyachtowners@..., <seagasm@ ...> wrote :

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck Flood Light, preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to obtain these and in 24Volt. There is such an array of options available, it's exhausting and I would like to stick with something close to the original.


Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM #171


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1b Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:06 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Mark Erdos" markerdos
OMG – You paid $610 for a light bulb?

With best regards,

Mark

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Lucia, the crime island

www.creampuff.us

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mast Deck Flood Lights

Hi Barry & Robyn,

I recently installed the Aqua Signal Series 43 LED Masthead / Foredeck Combi-Light. Fits exactly where the original incandescent Aqua-Signal light was.. Runs at 12 and 24 volts. You can buy it everywhere. I got mine at svb24.com in Germany but defender has it for $610 in the US.

Best regards,

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419, currently in Spain

On 11/27/2017 3:35 PM, seagasm@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck Flood Light, preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to obtain these and in 24Volt. There is such an array of options available, it's exhausting and I would like to stick with something close to the original.

Best Regards

Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM #171

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1c Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:11 pm (PST) . Posted by: bill_9895
The exact match for the light used as a deck flood light on our boat is an Aquasignal light, model "KIEL" it is now available in both conventional lamp and LED models.

It is in current production, but as far as I could find is not is not available anywhere in the USA. We ordered ours from an eBay vendor in Lithuania. It is also available from several of the larger European online chandleries..


The original was riveted to the mast, I'd suggest drilling out the rivets and tapping for machine screws.


On our boat the deck light and the steaming light were in separate fixtures several meters apart on the mast. It was far easier to replace the deck light in kind, than to re-route wires and install a combined fixture.


Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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1d Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:28 pm (PST) . Posted by: rossirossix4
I think several Amel owners have had good luck with MarineBeam. They sell dedicated spreader lights and have a Par 36 replacement in narrow and wide beam in 5, 9, and 13 watt. I use the 5 watt because in certain situations I will leave it on overrnight. The "narrow" beam seems to cover the entire deck. http://store.marinebeam.com/4-1-2-par36-led-sealed-beam-replacement-bulb-sb-par/ http://store.marinebeam.com/4-1-2-par36-led-sealed-beam-replacement-bulb-sb-par/ Bob, KAIMI SM429
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1e Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:34 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Paul LaFrance" nomadforpaul
Barry Robyn

We replaced our bulbs with this light that fit in the recepticle that housed the GE bulb. Worked great. Really bright. http://www.grote.com/products/63821-trilliant-36-led-work-white-light-with-spade-screw-terminals/?industrycat=&prodcat=work-lighting

Cost was about 90 -100 USD

Paul & Sue LaFrance

Former owners of SV NOMAD SM #362

63821 - Trilliant� 36 LED Work White Light<http://www.grote.com/products/63821-trilliant-36-led-work-white-light-with-spade-screw-terminals/?industrycat=&prodcat=work-lighting>
www.grote.com
Grote Industries - Part: #63821 - Trilliant� 36 LED Work White Light, Spade/Screw Terminals. UV Coated And Hard Coated Lens For Durability.

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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights

---In amelyachtowners@..., <seagasm@ ...> wrote :

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck Flood Light, preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to obtain these and in 24Volt. There is such an array of options available, it's exhausting and I would like to stick with something close to the original.

Best Regards

Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM #171

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1f Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights
Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:01 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Mark Pitt" markmpitt
I believe that Barry's email is referring to a light fixture not merely
a bulb. In my case, the fixture had lost the retaining ring/cap and was
otherwise in poor shape. I could not find a replacement fixture for a
24 volt Aqua-Signal incandescent fixture anywhere online in Europe. I am
not sure that one can find them in the US. Only the 12 volt versions of
the incandescent fixture seem to be available. So if you want to stay
with Aqua-Signal ("stay close to the original" as Barry said) and
require 24 volts, as we do, then the pricey Aqua-Signal Series 43 LED
combi light seems to be the only way to go. It's a "drop in" replacement.

Mark

Sabbatical III, SM#419, Spain

On 11/27/2017 7:06 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:


OMG – You paid $610 for a light bulb?

With best regards,

Mark

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Lucia, the crime island

www.creampuff.us

*From:*amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
*Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 4:51 PM
*To:* amelyachtowners@...
*Subject:* Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mast Deck Flood Lights

Hi Barry & Robyn,

I recently installed the Aqua Signal Series 43 LED Masthead /
Foredeck Combi-Light. Fits exactly where the original incandescent
Aqua-Signal light was. Runs at 12 and 24 volts. You can buy it
everywhere. I got mine at svb24.com in Germany but defender has it
for $610 in the US.

Best regards,

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419, currently in Spain

On 11/27/2017 3:35 PM, seagasm@... <mailto:seagasm@...>
[amelyachtowners] wrote:

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck
Flood Light, preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to
obtain these and in 24Volt. There is such an array of options
available, it's exhausting and I would like to stick with
something close to the original.

Best Regards

Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM #171



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1g Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights
Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:13 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Ryan Meador" r4476243zrih6wqsypsd564pzjvuynkpgmjql77e
I replaced my mizzen/cockpit lightbulb with this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XWWB5LM

It has served me well since August, and is probably the least expensive
boat maintenance I've ever done. They also make a spotlight version which
I intend to install on the mainmast first thing in the spring.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Mark Pitt mark_pitt@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



I believe that Barry's email is referring to a light fixture not merely a
bulb. In my case, the fixture had lost the retaining ring/cap and was
otherwise in poor shape. I could not find a replacement fixture for a 24
volt Aqua-Signal incandescent fixture anywhere online in Europe. I am not
sure that one can find them in the US. Only the 12 volt versions of the
incandescent fixture seem to be available. So if you want to stay with
Aqua-Signal ("stay close to the original" as Barry said) and require 24
volts, as we do, then the pricey Aqua-Signal Series 43 LED combi light
seems to be the only way to go. It's a "drop in" replacement.

Mark

Sabbatical III, SM#419, Spain

On 11/27/2017 7:06 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:

OMG – You paid $610 for a light bulb?





With best regards,



Mark



Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Lucia, the crime island

www.creampuff.us



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*Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 4:51 PM
*To:* amelyachtowners@...
*Subject:* Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mast Deck Flood Lights





Hi Barry & Robyn,

I recently installed the Aqua Signal Series 43 LED Masthead / Foredeck
Combi-Light. Fits exactly where the original incandescent Aqua-Signal
light was. Runs at 12 and 24 volts. You can buy it everywhere. I got
mine at svb24.com in Germany but defender has it for $610 in the US.

Best regards,

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419, currently in Spain



On 11/27/2017 3:35 PM, seagasm@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck Flood Light,
preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to obtain these and in
24Volt. There is such an array of options available, it's exhausting and I
would like to stick with something close to the original.



Best Regards

Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM #171





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1h Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights
Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:25 pm (PST) . Posted by: "sailormon" kimberlite1212
Mark,

If you are talking about the foredeck light half way up the mast. I bought one last year at Budget Marine in St Maarten. It is a stock item.

24 volts just means you have to change the lamps from 12 to 24 volts.

Easy install with ¼ inch pop rivets.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 8:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mast Deck Flood Lights

I believe that Barry's email is referring to a light fixture not merely a bulb. In my case, the fixture had lost the retaining ring/cap and was otherwise in poor shape. I could not find a replacement fixture for a 24 volt Aqua-Signal incandescent fixture anywhere online in Europe. I am not sure that one can find them in the US. Only the 12 volt versions of the incandescent fixture seem to be available. So if you want to stay with Aqua-Signal ("stay close to the original" as Barry said) and require 24 volts, as we do, then the pricey Aqua-Signal Series 43 LED combi light seems to be the only way to go.. It's a "drop in" replacement.

Mark

Sabbatical III, SM#419, Spain

On 11/27/2017 7:06 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

OMG – You paid $610 for a light bulb?

With best regards,

Mark

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Lucia, the crime island

www.creampuff.us

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mast Deck Flood Lights

Hi Barry & Robyn,

I recently installed the Aqua Signal Series 43 LED Masthead / Foredeck Combi-Light. Fits exactly where the original incandescent Aqua-Signal light was.. Runs at 12 and 24 volts. You can buy it everywhere. I got mine at svb24.com in Germany but defender has it for $610 in the US.

Best regards,

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419, currently in Spain

On 11/27/2017 3:35 PM, seagasm@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck Flood Light, preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to obtain these and in 24Volt. There is such an array of options available, it's exhausting and I would like to stick with something close to the original.

Best Regards

Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM #171

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2a Re: Flexofold Prop
Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:29 pm (PST) . Posted by: bill_9895
Pat,

For a boat with an effective bow thruster, I agree, prop walk is rather minor consideration.

I don't entirely dismiss the independent testing, it tells me that the performance of the props are all essentially the same, and that is useful information.


Once I get to the point that all the props are pretty similar in performance, then I would check to be sure they would fit my boat.


After that, it's tough. Which one is easier to work with? Do I feel I will need to be able to adjust the pitch underwater easily? What kind of support is available? Do any of them look better built than the others?


For someone with an Amel, using an Autoprop or a MaxProp can cut several corners. You can find out exactly the model, size, pitch settings, etc that work for other people with your exact boat and engine. That's significant but not overwhelming value.


Otherwise, I don't have a magic answer for picking the "best" other than saying I have never heard anybody voice really serious valid complaints about any of them, with the possible exception of the smaller two blade Varifold models, but they aren't suitable for an Amel anyway.




Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL

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Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:49 pm (PST) . Posted by: "Jay Hosford" jay.hosford

Is the Maramu 48 galley functional? Looks like it’s just open to the salon and doesn’t have a good place for bracing?
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Hi Jay,
You should have a hole in the floor at about the center of the galley.  The stool at the nav station can be removed and placed in the galley hole to brace against in rough weather.  We didn't use it much as most people don't like to try to prepare meals in rough weather but it is an option for the open galley.
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Digest #5391 1a Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by bill_9895 1b Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by "Mark Erdos" markerdos 1c Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by bill_9895 1d Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by rossirossix4 1e Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by "Paul LaFrance" nomadforpaul 1f Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by "Mark Pitt" markmpitt 1g Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by "Ryan Meador" r4476243zrih6wqsypsd564pzjvuynkpgmjql77e 1h Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights by "sailormon" kimberlite1212 2a Re: Flexofold Prop by bill_9895 3 48galley by "Jay Hosford" jay.hosford
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1a

Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights

Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:02 pm (PST) . Posted by:

bill_9895



---In amelyachtowners@..., <seagasm@ ...> wrote :

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck Flood Light, preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to obtain these and in 24Volt. There is such an array of options available, it's exhausting and I would like to stick with something close to the original.


Best Regards
Barry & Robyn
Tradewinds III SM #171


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1b

Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights

Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:06 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Mark Erdos" markerdos
OMG – You paid $610 for a light bulb?

With best regards,

Mark

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Lucia, the crime island

www.creampuff.us

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mast Deck Flood Lights

Hi Barry & Robyn,

I recently installed the Aqua Signal Series 43 LED Masthead / Foredeck Combi-Light. Fits exactly where the original incandescent Aqua-Signal light was. Runs at 12 and 24 volts. You can buy it everywhere. I got mine at svb24.com in Germany but defender has it for $610 in the US.

Best regards,

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419, currently in Spain

On 11/27/2017 3:35 PM, seagasm@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck Flood Light, preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to obtain these and in 24Volt. There is such an array of options available, it's exhausting and I would like to stick with something close to the original.

Best Regards

Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM #171

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Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights

Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:11 pm (PST) . Posted by:

bill_9895
The exact match for the light used as a deck flood light on our boat is an Aquasignal light, model "KIEL" it is now available in both conventional lamp and LED models.

It is in current production, but as far as I could find is not is not available anywhere in the USA. We ordered ours from an eBay vendor in Lithuania. It is also available from several of the larger European online chandleries.


The original was riveted to the mast, I'd suggest drilling out the rivets and tapping for machine screws.


On our boat the deck light and the steaming light were in separate fixtures several meters apart on the mast. It was far easier to replace the deck light in kind, than to re-route wires and install a combined fixture.


Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights

Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:28 pm (PST) . Posted by:

rossirossix4
I think several Amel owners have had good luck with MarineBeam. They sell dedicated spreader lights and have a Par 36 replacement in narrow and wide beam in 5, 9, and 13 watt. I use the 5 watt because in certain situations I will leave it on overrnight. The "narrow" beam seems to cover the entire deck. http://store.marinebeam.com/4-1-2-par36-led-sealed-beam-replacement-bulb-sb-par/ http://store.marinebeam.com/4-1-2-par36-led-sealed-beam-replacement-bulb-sb-par/ Bob, KAIMI SM429
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Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights

Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:34 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Paul LaFrance" nomadforpaul
Barry Robyn

We replaced our bulbs with this light that fit in the recepticle that housed the GE bulb. Worked great. Really bright. http://www.grote.com/products/63821-trilliant-36-led-work-white-light-with-spade-screw-terminals/?industrycat=&prodcat=work-lighting

Cost was about 90 -100 USD

Paul & Sue LaFrance

Former owners of SV NOMAD SM #362

63821 - Trilliant� 36 LED Work White Light<http://www.grote.com/products/63821-trilliant-36-led-work-white-light-with-spade-screw-terminals/?industrycat=&prodcat=work-lighting>
www.grote.com
Grote Industries - Part: #63821 - Trilliant� 36 LED Work White Light, Spade/Screw Terminals. UV Coated And Hard Coated Lens For Durability.

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Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights

---In amelyachtowners@..., <seagasm@ ...> wrote :

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck Flood Light, preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to obtain these and in 24Volt. There is such an array of options available, it's exhausting and I would like to stick with something close to the original.

Best Regards

Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM #171

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Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights

Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:01 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Mark Pitt" markmpitt
I believe that Barry's email is referring to a light fixture not merely
a bulb.  In my case, the fixture had lost the retaining ring/cap and was
otherwise in poor shape.  I could not find a replacement fixture for a
24 volt Aqua-Signal incandescent fixture anywhere online in Europe. I am
not sure that one can find them in the US.  Only the 12 volt versions of
the incandescent fixture seem to be available.  So if you want to stay
with Aqua-Signal ("stay close to the original" as Barry said) and
require 24 volts, as we do, then the pricey Aqua-Signal Series 43 LED
combi light seems to be the only way to go. It's a "drop in" replacement.

   Mark

  Sabbatical III, SM#419, Spain

On 11/27/2017 7:06 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:


OMG – You paid $610 for a light bulb?

With best regards,

Mark

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Lucia, the crime island

www.creampuff.us

*From:*amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
*Sent:* Monday, November 27, 2017 4:51 PM
*To:* amelyachtowners@...
*Subject:* Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mast Deck Flood Lights

Hi Barry & Robyn,

   I recently installed the Aqua Signal Series 43 LED Masthead /
Foredeck Combi-Light.  Fits exactly where the original incandescent
Aqua-Signal light was.  Runs at 12 and 24 volts.  You can buy it
everywhere.  I got mine at svb24.com in Germany but defender has it
for $610 in the US.

  Best regards,

   Mark Pitt

  Sabbatical III, SM#419,  currently in Spain

On 11/27/2017 3:35 PM, seagasm@... <mailto:seagasm@...>
[amelyachtowners] wrote:

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck
Flood Light, preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to
obtain these and in 24Volt. There is such an array of options
available, it's exhausting and I would like to stick with
something close to the original.

Best Regards

Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM #171



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1g

Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights

Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:13 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Ryan Meador" r4476243zrih6wqsypsd564pzjvuynkpgmjql77e
I replaced my mizzen/cockpit lightbulb with this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XWWB5LM

It has served me well since August, and is probably the least expensive
boat maintenance I've ever done. They also make a spotlight version which
I intend to install on the mainmast first thing in the spring.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 8:01 PM, Mark Pitt mark_pitt@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



I believe that Barry's email is referring to a light fixture not merely a
bulb. In my case, the fixture had lost the retaining ring/cap and was
otherwise in poor shape. I could not find a replacement fixture for a 24
volt Aqua-Signal incandescent fixture anywhere online in Europe. I am not
sure that one can find them in the US. Only the 12 volt versions of the
incandescent fixture seem to be available. So if you want to stay with
Aqua-Signal ("stay close to the original" as Barry said) and require 24
volts, as we do, then the pricey Aqua-Signal Series 43 LED combi light
seems to be the only way to go. It's a "drop in" replacement.

Mark

Sabbatical III, SM#419, Spain

On 11/27/2017 7:06 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:

OMG – You paid $610 for a light bulb?





With best regards,



Mark



Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Lucia, the crime island

www.creampuff.us



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Hi Barry & Robyn,

I recently installed the Aqua Signal Series 43 LED Masthead / Foredeck
Combi-Light. Fits exactly where the original incandescent Aqua-Signal
light was. Runs at 12 and 24 volts. You can buy it everywhere. I got
mine at svb24.com in Germany but defender has it for $610 in the US.

Best regards,

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419, currently in Spain



On 11/27/2017 3:35 PM, seagasm@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck Flood Light,
preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to obtain these and in
24Volt. There is such an array of options available, it's exhausting and I
would like to stick with something close to the original.



Best Regards

Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM #171





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Re: Mast Deck Flood Lights

Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:25 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"sailormon" kimberlite1212
Mark,

If you are talking about the foredeck light half way up the mast. I bought one last year at Budget Marine in St Maarten. It is a stock item.

24 volts just means you have to change the lamps from 12 to 24 volts.

Easy install with ¼ inch pop rivets.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 8:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mast Deck Flood Lights

I believe that Barry's email is referring to a light fixture not merely a bulb. In my case, the fixture had lost the retaining ring/cap and was otherwise in poor shape. I could not find a replacement fixture for a 24 volt Aqua-Signal incandescent fixture anywhere online in Europe. I am not sure that one can find them in the US. Only the 12 volt versions of the incandescent fixture seem to be available. So if you want to stay with Aqua-Signal ("stay close to the original" as Barry said) and require 24 volts, as we do, then the pricey Aqua-Signal Series 43 LED combi light seems to be the only way to go. It's a "drop in" replacement.

Mark

Sabbatical III, SM#419, Spain

On 11/27/2017 7:06 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

OMG – You paid $610 for a light bulb?

With best regards,

Mark

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising – St Lucia, the crime island

www.creampuff.us

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mast Deck Flood Lights

Hi Barry & Robyn,

I recently installed the Aqua Signal Series 43 LED Masthead / Foredeck Combi-Light. Fits exactly where the original incandescent Aqua-Signal light was. Runs at 12 and 24 volts. You can buy it everywhere. I got mine at svb24.com in Germany but defender has it for $610 in the US.

Best regards,

Mark Pitt

Sabbatical III, SM#419, currently in Spain

On 11/27/2017 3:35 PM, seagasm@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Good morning crew, I would like to replace the Main Mast Deck Flood Light, preferably an LED. Has anyone got a contact where to obtain these and in 24Volt. There is such an array of options available, it's exhausting and I would like to stick with something close to the original.

Best Regards

Barry & Robyn

Tradewinds III SM #171

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Re: Flexofold Prop

Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:29 pm (PST) . Posted by:

bill_9895
Pat,

For a boat with an effective bow thruster, I agree, prop walk is rather minor consideration.

I don't entirely dismiss the independent testing, it tells me that the performance of the props are all essentially the same, and that is useful information.


Once I get to the point that all the props are pretty similar in performance, then I would check to be sure they would fit my boat.


After that, it's tough. Which one is easier to work with? Do I feel I will need to be able to adjust the pitch underwater easily? What kind of support is available? Do any of them look better built than the others?


For someone with an Amel, using an Autoprop or a MaxProp can cut several corners. You can find out exactly the model, size, pitch settings, etc that work for other people with your exact boat and engine. That's significant but not overwhelming value.


Otherwise, I don't have a magic answer for picking the "best" other than saying I have never heard anybody voice really serious valid complaints about any of them, with the possible exception of the smaller two blade Varifold models, but they aren't suitable for an Amel anyway.




Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL

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48galley

Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:49 pm (PST) . Posted by:

"Jay Hosford" jay.hosford

Is the Maramu 48 galley functional? Looks like it’s just open to the salon and doesn’t have a good place for bracing?
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