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Re: Main Sail Furler

John Clark
 

Hi All,
   I just did the rebuild on the main sail emergency/manual furling gearbox.   The pictures, part numbers, and advice here were priceless.  Thank you Pat, Duane (I still owe you dinner for the inverter), Eric, Ralph, and Bill. 
 
  My furler worked perfect with no signs of impending failure.  On a short recreational sail with friends the thrust bearing/manual winch gear started locking up.  If I worked it back and forth it would run for a bit then stop....but sounded horrible.  Working it with the winch handle I could feel the grinding happening inside.  Upon disassembly I found the box full of rusty water with a bit of grease.  Roller cage was smushed and rollers out of position.  Amazed that it felt fine just a few months earlier when I rebuilt the electric gear boxes.

Consulting the Forum, perhaps we should call it the "Oracle"  I found all the information I needed to do a field repair in St Thomas.

  FYI the "Sub Base Boatyard"  machine shop was very helpful and did not extort too much money to get the old bearing races off. 

FYI:  Reassembly was easy with heating and cooling the various parts.  Our oven is temporarily out of commission due to a broken window (loose machete when we took a wave on the side that rolled us almost 90deg) so I used a small amount of vegetable oil  in a sauce pan to heat the case and the inner race to ~350 deg F.  The outer race I put in the freezer before installing.  Just a few taps and she slipped in, same with the inner race except I put the shaft in the freezer over night with the bearing hot.  Slipped right on. 


Again thanks to the trail blazers!

John Clark
SV Annie, SM 37
Charlotte Amalie (about to head to St, Martin to drink a toast to Nikimat with Alex)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster Rusted Shut

Mark Erdos
 

Steve,

 

 

Amel makes a special tool for this problem. If you do not have one it should give you an idea for a solution. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/search/photos?query=bow%20thruster#zax/albums_451592694

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 2:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bow Thruster Rusted Shut

 

 

Hi Steve,

Ah, the old stuck bow thruster problem. Keep at it - you're going in the right direction. Try putting a chain wrench around the motor base (where you removed the bolts) and apply lots of force, alternating clockwise and counter clockwise. You may even need to use an "old man" - a length of iron pipe - over the handle of the chain wrench to get more torque. Eventually you'll get it to budge a fraction - keep it up - back and forth -  and it'll come free. Any of the "magic" products like PB Blaster, etc. can't hurt and there's a "freezing spray" out there too.

Good luck with it,

Craig Briggs SN68 Sangaris, Ft Pierce, Fl



---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

I'm pretty sure my bow thruster is busted off because when I use it, All I get is a whirring sound. Got all the parts to do a service and the instructions. Fortified with all the web postings about doing so, I began my service. Now the four allen-head bolts are out of the motor housing that hold the shaft. The shaft will not budge. It's rusted in place. The four bolts were even a bit hard to remove and showed plenty of rust once out. I've been spraying the shaft and the holes with WD-40 for the last couple of days, but still no luck. 

 

Any advice from those who have done this service?

 

Steve Bode

SV Intention

'94 SM #117

Barcelona, Spain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

robin hutter
 

check it at SVB: https://www.svb.de/de/vetus-wassersammler-typ-lss-lsg.html

its the one with the 90 mm ...

fair winds

Robin 

Amel 54 #54


Re: Bow Thruster Rusted Shut

Craig Briggs
 

Oh yeah, and whack it a lot with a hammer around the bolt hole ring.


Re: Bow Thruster Rusted Shut

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Steve,
Ah, the old stuck bow thruster problem. Keep at it - you're going in the right direction. Try putting a chain wrench around the motor base (where you removed the bolts) and apply lots of force, alternating clockwise and counter clockwise. You may even need to use an "old man" - a length of iron pipe - over the handle of the chain wrench to get more torque. Eventually you'll get it to budge a fraction - keep it up - back and forth -  and it'll come free. Any of the "magic" products like PB Blaster, etc. can't hurt and there's a "freezing spray" out there too.
Good luck with it,
Craig Briggs SN68 Sangaris, Ft Pierce, Fl


---In amelyachtowners@..., <steve@...> wrote :

I'm pretty sure my bow thruster is busted off because when I use it, All I get is a whirring sound. Got all the parts to do a service and the instructions. Fortified with all the web postings about doing so, I began my service. Now the four allen-head bolts are out of the motor housing that hold the shaft. The shaft will not budge. It's rusted in place. The four bolts were even a bit hard to remove and showed plenty of rust once out. I've been spraying the shaft and the holes with WD-40 for the last couple of days, but still no luck. 


Any advice from those who have done this service?


Steve Bode

SV Intention

'94 SM #117

Barcelona, Spain


Pure Magic

Peter Killen
 

Now that we have sold Pure Magic, I would like to leave the forum.
Once again my thanks for all the information over the years.

Peter Killen

SM 433


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Robin,
I can't add much to what has been said/recommended above, but wanted to ask you (assuming you also have a Volvo DS3 - 110) about the part no of the muffler and where you ordered it.
Thanks for your help,
Alex
AMEL54 #15
NO STRESS


On Saturday, May 26, 2018, 1:16:46 PM GMT-4, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:


 

Robin,

 

Have you checked you heat exchanger? Blockage here will cause the muffler to melt.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 9:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

 

 

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca

 

 


Bow Thruster Rusted Shut

Steven Bode - SV Intention 1994-SM#117
 

I'm pretty sure my bow thruster is busted off because when I use it, All I get is a whirring sound. Got all the parts to do a service and the instructions. Fortified with all the web postings about doing so, I began my service. Now the four allen-head bolts are out of the motor housing that hold the shaft. The shaft will not budge. It's rusted in place. The four bolts were even a bit hard to remove and showed plenty of rust once out. I've been spraying the shaft and the holes with WD-40 for the last couple of days, but still no luck. 


Any advice from those who have done this service?


Steve Bode

SV Intention

'94 SM #117

Barcelona, Spain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

Mark Erdos
 

Robin,

 

Have you checked you heat exchanger? Blockage here will cause the muffler to melt.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 9:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

 

 

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Flexible Prop which one for SM?

karkauai
 

It’s here if you want it, Philipp.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On May 26, 2018, at 4:19 AM, philipp.sollberger@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

I have a Perkins similar to TMD22.
Thank's a lot for your offer, but I think, that I will have the problem of the housing, because my hull is from 1994 with the number 124. Yours is 243, though you have a new housing which was change for the SM2000.

If it would go on my hull, then I will come for your offer that I apreciate highly. First I will make the inquiry with AMEL and after that I will come back.

Many thanks and fair winds.
Philipp
SM#124
Félicie


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Philipp,
What engine do you have?

Amel sold many SMS with AutoProp’s. They are an excellent choice. These props automatically find their pitch depending on conditions (speed and power applied), with lower pitch when you are motoring at higher rpm, slower speed, and higher pitch at relatively lower rpm and higher speed.

MaxProp also works well on my SM.

I repowered with a 110HP Yanmar when my 78HP Volvo died, I still have the old AutoProp and can sell it at a significant discount if you are interested.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
St Michaels MD USA
 


Re: Flexible Prop which one for SM?

philipp.sollberger@...
 

Hi Kent,

I have a Perkins similar to TMD22.
Thank's a lot for your offer, but I think, that I will have the problem of the housing, because my hull is from 1994 with the number 124. Yours is 243, though you have a new housing which was change for the SM2000.

If it would go on my hull, then I will come for your offer that I apreciate highly. First I will make the inquiry with AMEL and after that I will come back.

Many thanks and fair winds.
Philipp
SM#124
Félicie


---In amelyachtowners@..., <karkauai@...> wrote :

Philipp,
What engine do you have?

Amel sold many SMS with AutoProp’s. They are an excellent choice. These props automatically find their pitch depending on conditions (speed and power applied), with lower pitch when you are motoring at higher rpm, slower speed, and higher pitch at relatively lower rpm and higher speed.

MaxProp also works well on my SM.

I repowered with a 110HP Yanmar when my 78HP Volvo died, I still have the old AutoProp and can sell it at a significant discount if you are interested.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
St Michaels MD USA
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: melted muffler

Craig Briggs
 

Sure, or just take off the hose at the exhaust injection elbow and see if you've got water there. 
Let us know.


---In amelyachtowners@..., <simms@...> wrote :

Hi robin. Have you thought to take the end off the intake end of the heat exchanger. It can get blocked with debris, particularly if you have had a previous failure of thexestrr pump impeller. 

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl


On 26 May 2018 at 03:26 "sangaris@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


If you remove the outlet hose from the pump and turn over the engine, does water flow?
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

its a VP D3 110A - and yes, the impeller turns ...


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Am Freitag, Mai 25, 2018, 17:04 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 


I meant to say, "see if the impeller turns", not "rotor".
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote :

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca



 
 

 


 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: melted muffler

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi robin. Have you thought to take the end off the intake end of the heat exchanger. It can get blocked with debris, particularly if you have had a previous failure of thexestrr pump impeller. 

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl


On 26 May 2018 at 03:26 "sangaris@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


If you remove the outlet hose from the pump and turn over the engine, does water flow?
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

its a VP D3 110A - and yes, the impeller turns ...


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Am Freitag, Mai 25, 2018, 17:04 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 


I meant to say, "see if the impeller turns", not "rotor".
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote :

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca



 
 

 


 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: melted muffler

Craig Briggs
 


If you remove the outlet hose from the pump and turn over the engine, does water flow?
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

its a VP D3 110A - and yes, the impeller turns ...


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Freitag, Mai 25, 2018, 17:04 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 


I meant to say, "see if the impeller turns", not "rotor".
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote :

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

eric freedman
 

Hi Robin,

I had this happen once on Kimberlite. Fortunately I had a spare.

The cover plate on the water pump is probably leaking just a little air as it is probably warped.

You might try turning the plate around or even better replacing the plate.

This simple alarm will warn you if the exhaust hose gets too hot and will save your muffler.

http://www.borelmfg.com/products_alarm.htm

I had my muffler remade out of metal by a marine manifold / muffler company.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 9:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] melted muffler

 

 

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: melted muffler

robin hutter
 

its a VP D3 110A - and yes, the impeller turns ...


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Freitag, Mai 25, 2018, 17:04 schrieb sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] :

 


I meant to say, "see if the impeller turns", not "rotor".
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca




Re: melted muffler

Craig Briggs
 


I meant to say, "see if the impeller turns", not "rotor".
Craig

---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote :

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca




Re: melted muffler

Craig Briggs
 

Robin, 
Take cover off the water pump and see if the rotor turns when you hit the starter for a second. It sounds like the pump drive shaft is not being driven by the engine, a not uncommon problem. (what engine do you have?). 
Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris Ft. Pierce, FL


---In amelyachtowners@..., <robin6658@...> wrote :

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca




melted muffler

robin hutter
 

Second time now the muffler just melted away because no water - impeller is ok - hoses are all clear, filter is clean - any ideas?


Robin

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As

Menorca




Re :Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu 46 Owner's Manual

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

Good day to you
I went thru the same 3 years ago & can vouch for the fact that a self survey can be as effective than one conducted by a surveyor without experience on Amel boats. Check my earlier posts to avoid repeating my mistakes. Just remember that Maramu is a stiff  & strongly built boat, with oversized elements. Follow the Amel forum rule, do not change anything, better to repair as long as you figure out how.
Cheers & fair Winds
Christian Alby, Desirade VIII, Maramu 116. Canet en roussillon



Le ven., mai 25, 2018 à 4:03, Dwentworth dwentworth@... [amelyachtowners]
a écrit :
 

Greetings and Salutations,

I am conducting a pre-purchase self survey of a 1986 Amel 46, hull number 188 as part of my consideration for purchase. I have been reading the historical posts on the Amel group and appreciate the storehouse of knowledge contained herein. I have sailed in the Pacific and South Pacific and have accrued 20,000 sea miles with five years as captain of my own boat. The Maramu will certainly be a tall step up in complexity from my previous Cascade 36. I am quite handy and capable around most systems found on boats and look forward to learning all the systems on this Amel. I do expect an initially steep learning curve. The boat I am looking at is presently in a very remote location in Panama or I woukd engage an experienced Amel surveyor. Any information or guidance from this group would be very welcomed.

Best Regards,


Dan Wentworth

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