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B&G wind sensor

Willem Kroes
 


Hi Amel sailors,


Who can tell me what type of B&G wind sensor I need to replace the one which is not working well (only wind speed). The boat has still the Hydra 2000 computer (NMEA).


Willem Kroes

SM 2k # 351 "Kavanga"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

Bob Grey
 

If you have the same system as me, hold down the standby key and press auto key, sets to wind not compass.

Took me a year to work out, being a man we don't read manuals.


On Saturday, August 26, 2017, 01:50, 'gavin' gavingilmorelodge@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Danny, sounds good, we’ll definitely give it a try. We’re so new to the boat I haven’t established yet if or how to get the autopilot to steer a wind angle.

Regards, Gavin

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: 24 August 2017 08:38
To: Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners]
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

 

 

Hi,
I'm a fan of the SM twin headsail system. However if I'm lazy or some other reason a very effective system is wing on wing x 3. Pole the headsail out to (say) port. Prevent the main out to starboard and percent the mizzen out to port.
This system gives wind acceleration. The wind hits the mizzen, accelerates across it and hits the main faster, then accelerates across the main and hits the biggest sail twice accelerated. You can sail downwind up to 15/degrees off 180 .put the boat on wind steer auto helm and kick back.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
 

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 24 Aug 2017 16:41, "Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Gavin, I have a 55 

 

In answer to your questions.

 

You need to re tension the pole down haul ropes (3) after setup as they stretch, then the pole moves and chafes the genoa sheets. The pole should be tensioned with its halliard to keep it stable and not move.

 

If your running downwind 150-210deg then put the mizzen away it just cuts flow to the main or Genoa.

 

I rarely use the staysail, but when I need it 45+knots tacking to windward, the running back stay really needs to be tightened by winch, don't rethink the Amel design.

 

The staysail is your storm jib.

 

The most obvious is that the heat exchanger plates on the bottom of the boat have been painted or antifouled.

 

Bob Grey

Renaissance 3

Amel 55 #25.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 19:24, Gavin Shaw gavingilmorelodge@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We hope to cross this year with the ARC on an Amel 55 from 2012.

 

We are completely new to the boat and have not sailed an Amel before. We would therefore really appreciate advice from Amel 55 owners with ocean experience, particularly on these topics.

1.       The ideal trade wind rig with the apparent wind below 15 knots and the best reduced sail plan with a stronger wind. In addition to the standard cutter rig we have a cruising chute and a Code 0 on board.

2.       Any tips on setting up the pole for long term running to minimise chafe and wear on the pole and fittings?

3.       How best to rig a preventer on the mizzen boom when running?

4.       Should we consider a mizzen staysail, if so how best to rig it on the 55 which doesn’t seem to be set up for one?

5.       When should we use the forward staysail and whether it is safe to rig the running backstays with a tackle and integral jamming cleat like a sailing dinghy mainsheet? (To avoid blocking the secondary winch on the windward side)

6.       I don’t think we have a storm jib or trysail but imagine we should use the forward staysail and deeply reefed main in heavy weather. Do we need additional heavy weather sails?

7.       Our fridge and freezer are not working properly. The freezer struggles to reach -5C and the fridge achieves no cooling at all.They are Frigoboat units with keel coolers, made by Veco. The boat is currently in Golfe Juan where the local service company seem unable to fix them. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Many thanks for experienced input on any of these topics.

Gavin

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

Bob Grey
 

On Saturday, August 26, 2017, 00:14, 'gavin' gavingilmorelodge@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Thanks Bob, please see comments in your text below.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: 24 August 2017 05:41
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

 

 

Hi Gavin, I have a 55 

Many of the kind responses from this group have been from owners of earlier yachts which were I believe designed by Henri Amel himself whereas Berret Racoupeau designed the 55. If you’ve sailed on the earlier yachts, do you think the 55 sails very differently from the Henri boats? 

 

In answer to your questions.

 

You need to re tension the pole down haul ropes (3) after setup as they stretch, then the pole moves and chafes the genoa sheets. The pole should be tensioned with its halliard to keep it stable and not move. Understood, thank you, do you think the downhauls should be replaced with non-stretch lines?

No you do it once after setup, not a big job. 

If your running downwind 150-210deg then put the mizzen away it just cuts flow to the main or Genoa. Thanks

 

I rarely use the staysail, but when I need it 45+knots tacking to windward, the running back stay really needs to be tightened by winch, don't rethink the Amel design. Sorry, we don’t know the Amel design. Is that in the Amel User’s manual which was not included when the boat was bought from the previous owner? 

The backstay set up is shown at handover didn't find it in a manual. 

The staysail is your storm jib. Thank you, ours is on a Reckmann electric furler and I wondered if it would be heavy enough for very strong winds?

Seriously the reckman on the staysail is over strength for the job!

 

The most obvious is that the heat exchanger plates on the bottom of the boat have been painted or antifouled. Just in case it helps other owners, after 5 unsuccessful visits from an authorised Frigoboat/Veco service engineer, we have now been told the most likely cause is that the fridge/freezer was left on when Amel hauled the boat in Hyeres. Apparently with the keel coolers out of the water and the compressors running the circulation of the refrigerant soon fails.

  Hmm I can't comment but would doubt this explanation.

Bob Grey

Renaissance 3

Amel 55 #25.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 19:24, Gavin Shaw gavingilmorelodge@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We hope to cross this year with the ARC on an Amel 55 from 2012.

 

We are completely new to the boat and have not sailed an Amel before. We would therefore really appreciate advice from Amel 55 owners with ocean experience, particularly on these topics.

1.       The ideal trade wind rig with the apparent wind below 15 knots and the best reduced sail plan with a stronger wind. In addition to the standard cutter rig we have a cruising chute and a Code 0 on board.

2.       Any tips on setting up the pole for long term running to minimise chafe and wear on the pole and fittings?

3.       How best to rig a preventer on the mizzen boom when running?

4.       Should we consider a mizzen staysail, if so how best to rig it on the 55 which doesn’t seem to be set up for one?

5.       When should we use the forward staysail and whether it is safe to rig the running backstays with a tackle and integral jamming cleat like a sailing dinghy mainsheet? (To avoid blocking the secondary winch on the windward side)

6.       I don’t think we have a storm jib or trysail but imagine we should use the forward staysail and deeply reefed main in heavy weather. Do we need additional heavy weather sails?

7.       Our fridge and freezer are not working properly. The freezer struggles to reach -5C and the fridge achieves no cooling at all.They are Frigoboat units with keel coolers, made by Veco. The boat is currently in Golfe Juan where the local service company seem unable to fix them. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Many thanks for experienced input on any of these topics.

Gavin

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Down wind sail configuration

smiles bernard
 


Hello Dennis

Many thanks for this great information

This certainly sounds like the best option for me and is much like a system I had on my last boat although I then used a removable ss for stay and hank on sail. 

I wonder if you'd be kind enough to tell me a little more about your setup. 

Where is the deck attachment point (how far back from the furling genoa etc)  and how was this secured - to a bulk head?

What shape/size and cloth weight did you choose?

Many thanks indeed for your help and experience with this

All the best

Miles 



On 19 Aug 2017, at 20:10, Dennis Johns sbmesasailor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Miles,

Sorry to log in on this topic so late but since most of the responses you received were from Supers and your Maramu has been re-rigged so as to not be easily adapted to the Amel downwind layout, I thought perhaps I could offer an alternative.

As brilliant at the double headsail setup on the SM is, it may not be the best approach.  There have been studies to indicate that having two headsails meet at the forestay with no gap is not optimal.  Having a gap between two headsails provides an escape for the build up of pressure which is advantageous for gusting conditions and provides some relief for the standing rigging without significant loss of drive.

On Libertad, we have a second headsail with an integral stay that is raised on one of our spinnaker halyards and poled out opposite to the poled out genoa.  The sail is cut so it doesn't need to be furled and the integral stay is relatively light ss wire because we don't fly it in any wind greater than 15 kts apparent.  This configuration closely mirrors the SM rig and provides a gap between the two headsails.  I suggest you don't overhaul your forestay/furling system when the same/similar result can be achieved with a custom headsail.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121
Ensenada, MX

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Don't pole out the Genaker?

Peter Forbes
 

Well both sails were on Carango when I bought her from Rudi Peroni. The Yankee is a slightly high cut genoa and in this rig set up we completely unfurl it to the pole. The code zero has its own luff line and a furler with an everlasting furling rope on a drum at the foot. It can only be fully deployed or fully rolled up. It is a great sail and after destroying it we are having a replacement made by Ullman sails inCape Town - they ship it to St Maarten where they have a small loft.

Peter

On 26 Aug 2017, at 07:25, SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Thanks Peter for your answers 

For my understanding ,

1. Is your Yankee a specific sail or simply the genoa (ie foresail) furled in appropriately for the conditions? I presume the latter. 

2. Is your Code Zero the 100m^2 Genaker with 'built-in furling' (for my lack of a better word) Amel offered as an option on the 54, or a specific sail?

3. What wind angles would you keep that setup for?

Cheers 

Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Back from Corsica
Hyeres, France

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 at 21:59, Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Garulfo,

We sailed from Cape Town to Salvador Brazil flying a poled out Yankee on the just windward side and the code Zero on the just downwind side ( a huge amount of sail) and Mizzen of course with preventer downwind side and our 54 sailed really fast and comfortably in up to 22kts true.

All went well until we were hit by a squall of 27 kits and the code Zero blew out but no other damage.

This is definitely a rig I will use again. We only have the one Amel 54 standard pole.

Peter Forbes
00447836 209730


On 25 Aug 2017, at 18:22, SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

I was going through the Amel documentation for the 54 optional items and, regarding the gennaker with built-in furler, it reads "Don't pole out this sail" and "Don't use the gennaker at the same time as the genoa". That's my translation of the french document 'Amel 54_Equipement_optionel_V1.4', section 7-3-7.  

What do you make of that advice? 

I was definitely planning to use the double pole setup with gennaker and genoa for downwind sailing. 

Thanks for any advice and experience,

Fair winds 

Thomas

Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Back from Corsica
Hyeres, France

--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Corsica, France

--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Corsica, France

Two Brand new Rubber Rails to sell

olaf_renos@...
 

Hello AMELians,

I sell two original and quite new AMEL Rubber rails for Super Maramu 2000 or Santorin.

2 PC x 16meters.

Quite NEW.

AMEL sell them for 26.65 € per meter + Tax. That is € 852.8 + TAX.

 

I will sell them for € 550 all-in.


I can deliver them between Grenada and St. Martin.


Fair winds

Olaf


Santorin #135

LeMarin, Martinique

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Don't pole out the Genaker?

Sv Garulfo
 


Thanks Peter for your answers 

For my understanding ,

1. Is your Yankee a specific sail or simply the genoa (ie foresail) furled in appropriately for the conditions? I presume the latter. 

2. Is your Code Zero the 100m^2 Genaker with 'built-in furling' (for my lack of a better word) Amel offered as an option on the 54, or a specific sail?

3. What wind angles would you keep that setup for?

Cheers 

Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Back from Corsica
Hyeres, France

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 at 21:59, Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Garulfo,

We sailed from Cape Town to Salvador Brazil flying a poled out Yankee on the just windward side and the code Zero on the just downwind side ( a huge amount of sail) and Mizzen of course with preventer downwind side and our 54 sailed really fast and comfortably in up to 22kts true.

All went well until we were hit by a squall of 27 kits and the code Zero blew out but no other damage.

This is definitely a rig I will use again. We only have the one Amel 54 standard pole.

Peter Forbes
00447836 209730


On 25 Aug 2017, at 18:22, SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

I was going through the Amel documentation for the 54 optional items and, regarding the gennaker with built-in furler, it reads "Don't pole out this sail" and "Don't use the gennaker at the same time as the genoa". That's my translation of the french document 'Amel 54_Equipement_optionel_V1.4', section 7-3-7.  

What do you make of that advice? 

I was definitely planning to use the double pole setup with gennaker and genoa for downwind sailing. 

Thanks for any advice and experience,

Fair winds 

Thomas

Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Back from Corsica
Hyeres, France

--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Corsica, France

--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Corsica, France

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooner hook clamp torsion spring

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Bill
Did not check with rigger.  I will when I return.  I'm sure he has seen this spring before . 
Ben


Ben and Gayle 
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Aug 25, 2017, at 11:03 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben, 

You are in Martinique. Did you speak to Jean COLLIN at Amel, or Gaëtan Rivet at Caraibe Rigging?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970










On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Rick Gutierrez devaxmangor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hey Ben,


Don’t know if this would help, but the info might be useful in the future.

An old client of mine is the largest distributor of custom springs in the world. If they don’t have it, they can custom manufacture it for you.

Anyway, here is the link:


Good luck,

Rick Gutierrez


On Aug 25, 2017, at 10:51 AM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I need replace the small torsion spring which applies necessary pressure to clamp which holds ballooner hook in place at top of furler.  I'm finding it difficult to find.  Has anyone replaced and found a source?  Picture of part is below.


Ben and Gayle 

La Bella Vita

SM2K #347

Le Marin Martinique 







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooner hook clamp torsion spring

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Thanks  Rick.  I do know Century; they are giant spring company. I'll check them out 

Ben Driver
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Aug 25, 2017, at 11:03 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben, 

You are in Martinique. Did you speak to Jean COLLIN at Amel, or Gaëtan Rivet at Caraibe Rigging?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970










On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Rick Gutierrez devaxmangor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hey Ben,


Don’t know if this would help, but the info might be useful in the future.

An old client of mine is the largest distributor of custom springs in the world. If they don’t have it, they can custom manufacture it for you.

Anyway, here is the link:


Good luck,

Rick Gutierrez


On Aug 25, 2017, at 10:51 AM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I need replace the small torsion spring which applies necessary pressure to clamp which holds ballooner hook in place at top of furler.  I'm finding it difficult to find.  Has anyone replaced and found a source?  Picture of part is below.


Ben and Gayle 

La Bella Vita

SM2K #347

Le Marin Martinique 







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooner hook clamp torsion spring

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Bill
Jean is in France but before I left - I'm in San Diego - I asked his man Albon. They had none.  Maude could not provide either. 
Ben 

Ben and Gayle 
S/V La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Aug 25, 2017, at 11:03 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben, 

You are in Martinique. Did you speak to Jean COLLIN at Amel, or Gaëtan Rivet at Caraibe Rigging?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970










On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Rick Gutierrez devaxmangor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hey Ben,


Don’t know if this would help, but the info might be useful in the future.

An old client of mine is the largest distributor of custom springs in the world. If they don’t have it, they can custom manufacture it for you.

Anyway, here is the link:


Good luck,

Rick Gutierrez


On Aug 25, 2017, at 10:51 AM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I need replace the small torsion spring which applies necessary pressure to clamp which holds ballooner hook in place at top of furler.  I'm finding it difficult to find.  Has anyone replaced and found a source?  Picture of part is below.


Ben and Gayle 

La Bella Vita

SM2K #347

Le Marin Martinique 







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Don't pole out the Genaker?

Peter Forbes
 

Garulfo,

We sailed from Cape Town to Salvador Brazil flying a poled out Yankee on the just windward side and the code Zero on the just downwind side ( a huge amount of sail) and Mizzen of course with preventer downwind side and our 54 sailed really fast and comfortably in up to 22kts true.

All went well until we were hit by a squall of 27 kits and the code Zero blew out but no other damage.

This is definitely a rig I will use again. We only have the one Amel 54 standard pole.

Peter Forbes
00447836 209730

On 25 Aug 2017, at 18:22, SV Garulfo svgarulfo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

I was going through the Amel documentation for the 54 optional items and, regarding the gennaker with built-in furler, it reads "Don't pole out this sail" and "Don't use the gennaker at the same time as the genoa". That's my translation of the french document 'Amel 54_Equipement_optionel_V1.4', section 7-3-7.  

What do you make of that advice? 

I was definitely planning to use the double pole setup with gennaker and genoa for downwind sailing. 

Thanks for any advice and experience,

Fair winds 

Thomas

Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Back from Corsica
Hyeres, France

--
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Corsica, France

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Gavin,

You don't have to use wind steer, that just adds another level of pleasure. Your instrument handbooks will tell you how

Regards

Danny

On 26 August 2017 at 03:50 "'gavin' gavingilmorelodge@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Thanks Danny, sounds good, we’ll definitely give it a try. We’re so new to the boat I haven’t established yet if or how to get the autopilot to steer a wind angle.

Regards, Gavin

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: 24 August 2017 08:38
To: Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

 

 

Hi,
I'm a fan of the SM twin headsail system. However if I'm lazy or some other reason a very effective system is wing on wing x 3. Pole the headsail out to (say) port. Prevent the main out to starboard and percent the mizzen out to port.
This system gives wind acceleration. The wind hits the mizzen, accelerates across it and hits the main faster, then accelerates across the main and hits the biggest sail twice accelerated. You can sail downwind up to 15/degrees off 180 .put the boat on wind steer auto helm and kick back.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
 

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On 24 Aug 2017 16:41, "Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Gavin, I have a 55 

 

In answer to your questions.

 

You need to re tension the pole down haul ropes (3) after setup as they stretch, then the pole moves and chafes the genoa sheets. The pole should be tensioned with its halliard to keep it stable and not move.

 

If your running downwind 150-210deg then put the mizzen away it just cuts flow to the main or Genoa.

 

I rarely use the staysail, but when I need it 45+knots tacking to windward, the running back stay really needs to be tightened by winch, don't rethink the Amel design.

 

The staysail is your storm jib.

 

The most obvious is that the heat exchanger plates on the bottom of the boat have been painted or antifouled.

 

Bob Grey

Renaissance 3

Amel 55 #25.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 19:24, Gavin Shaw gavingilmorelodge@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We hope to cross this year with the ARC on an Amel 55 from 2012.

 

We are completely new to the boat and have not sailed an Amel before. We would therefore really appreciate advice from Amel 55 owners with ocean experience, particularly on these topics.

1.       The ideal trade wind rig with the apparent wind below 15 knots and the best reduced sail plan with a stronger wind. In addition to the standard cutter rig we have a cruising chute and a Code 0 on board.

2.       Any tips on setting up the pole for long term running to minimise chafe and wear on the pole and fittings?

3.       How best to rig a preventer on the mizzen boom when running?

4.       Should we consider a mizzen staysail, if so how best to rig it on the 55 which doesn’t seem to be set up for one?

5.       When should we use the forward staysail and whether it is safe to rig the running backstays with a tackle and integral jamming cleat like a sailing dinghy mainsheet? (To avoid blocking the secondary winch on the windward side)

6.       I don’t think we have a storm jib or trysail but imagine we should use the forward staysail and deeply reefed main in heavy weather. Do we need additional heavy weather sails?

7.       Our fridge and freezer are not working properly. The freezer struggles to reach -5C and the fridge achieves no cooling at all.They are Frigoboat units with keel coolers, made by Veco. The boat is currently in Golfe Juan where the local service company seem unable to fix them. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Many thanks for experienced input on any of these topics.

Gavin

 

 

 


 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooner hook clamp torsion spring

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ben, 

You are in Martinique. Did you speak to Jean COLLIN at Amel, or Gaëtan Rivet at Caraibe Rigging?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970










On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Rick Gutierrez devaxmangor@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hey Ben,


Don’t know if this would help, but the info might be useful in the future.

An old client of mine is the largest distributor of custom springs in the world. If they don’t have it, they can custom manufacture it for you.

Anyway, here is the link:


Good luck,

Rick Gutierrez


On Aug 25, 2017, at 10:51 AM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I need replace the small torsion spring which applies necessary pressure to clamp which holds ballooner hook in place at top of furler.  I'm finding it difficult to find.  Has anyone replaced and found a source?  Picture of part is below.


Ben and Gayle 

La Bella Vita

SM2K #347

Le Marin Martinique 







Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooner hook clamp torsion spring

Rick Gutierrez <devaxmangor@...>
 

Hey Ben,

Don’t know if this would help, but the info might be useful in the future.

An old client of mine is the largest distributor of custom springs in the world. If they don’t have it, they can custom manufacture it for you.

Anyway, here is the link:


Good luck,

Rick Gutierrez


On Aug 25, 2017, at 10:51 AM, joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


I need replace the small torsion spring which applies necessary pressure to clamp which holds ballooner hook in place at top of furler.  I'm finding it difficult to find.  Has anyone replaced and found a source?  Picture of part is below.


Ben and Gayle 

La Bella Vita

SM2K #347

Le Marin Martinique 






Ballooner hook clamp torsion spring

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

I need replace the small torsion spring which applies necessary pressure to clamp which holds ballooner hook in place at top of furler.  I'm finding it difficult to find.  Has anyone replaced and found a source?  Picture of part is below.


Ben and Gayle 

La Bella Vita

SM2K #347

Le Marin Martinique 




Don't pole out the Genaker?

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi all,

I was going through the Amel documentation for the 54 optional items and, regarding the gennaker with built-in furler, it reads "Don't pole out this sail" and "Don't use the gennaker at the same time as the genoa". That's my translation of the french document 'Amel 54_Equipement_optionel_V1.4', section 7-3-7.  

What do you make of that advice? 

I was definitely planning to use the double pole setup with gennaker and genoa for downwind sailing. 

Thanks for any advice and experience,

Fair winds 

Thomas

Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Back from Corsica
Hyeres, France

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GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Corsica, France

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

gavin <gavingilmorelodge@...>
 

Thanks again Paul, I have never seen such a sail but I’ll pass on your information to the owner.

Regards, Gavin

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: 24 August 2017 13:58
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

 

 

Gavin

The balooner is a "Genua in spinacker cloth" same size as the Genua, it is hoisted in one of the groves on the Genua furler.

There is a special function who keep the balooner in place so you can take down the halyard, thus furling both together when wind increases or when one encounter a squall. Very efficient indeed. We were "racing" (as Bill said two boats and there is a race) a HR 53 He had his spinnaker up in rather fresh wind, but we was a little bit faster. The HR 53 is a very fast boat in strong wind.

Paul SY Kerpa SM259

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Well, well, well.....Amel 50

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Thanks, Bob. 

I wish Amel all the best with their new 50.

I do wonder, however, why they have not leveraged the power of the hundreds of current Amel owners to ensure their success. It would be so easy to do and cost so little. Maybe they don't need any help???

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970





On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:38 AM, rossidesigngroup@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

http://amel50.com/en/


Bob SV KAIMI SM#429

Brindisi



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

gavin <gavingilmorelodge@...>
 

Thanks Danny, sounds good, we’ll definitely give it a try. We’re so new to the boat I haven’t established yet if or how to get the autopilot to steer a wind angle.

Regards, Gavin

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: 24 August 2017 08:38
To: Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners]
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

 

 

Hi,
I'm a fan of the SM twin headsail system. However if I'm lazy or some other reason a very effective system is wing on wing x 3. Pole the headsail out to (say) port. Prevent the main out to starboard and percent the mizzen out to port.
This system gives wind acceleration. The wind hits the mizzen, accelerates across it and hits the main faster, then accelerates across the main and hits the biggest sail twice accelerated. You can sail downwind up to 15/degrees off 180 .put the boat on wind steer auto helm and kick back.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
 

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On 24 Aug 2017 16:41, "Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Gavin, I have a 55 

 

In answer to your questions.

 

You need to re tension the pole down haul ropes (3) after setup as they stretch, then the pole moves and chafes the genoa sheets. The pole should be tensioned with its halliard to keep it stable and not move.

 

If your running downwind 150-210deg then put the mizzen away it just cuts flow to the main or Genoa.

 

I rarely use the staysail, but when I need it 45+knots tacking to windward, the running back stay really needs to be tightened by winch, don't rethink the Amel design.

 

The staysail is your storm jib.

 

The most obvious is that the heat exchanger plates on the bottom of the boat have been painted or antifouled.

 

Bob Grey

Renaissance 3

Amel 55 #25.


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On Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 19:24, Gavin Shaw gavingilmorelodge@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We hope to cross this year with the ARC on an Amel 55 from 2012.

 

We are completely new to the boat and have not sailed an Amel before. We would therefore really appreciate advice from Amel 55 owners with ocean experience, particularly on these topics.

1.       The ideal trade wind rig with the apparent wind below 15 knots and the best reduced sail plan with a stronger wind. In addition to the standard cutter rig we have a cruising chute and a Code 0 on board.

2.       Any tips on setting up the pole for long term running to minimise chafe and wear on the pole and fittings?

3.       How best to rig a preventer on the mizzen boom when running?

4.       Should we consider a mizzen staysail, if so how best to rig it on the 55 which doesn’t seem to be set up for one?

5.       When should we use the forward staysail and whether it is safe to rig the running backstays with a tackle and integral jamming cleat like a sailing dinghy mainsheet? (To avoid blocking the secondary winch on the windward side)

6.       I don’t think we have a storm jib or trysail but imagine we should use the forward staysail and deeply reefed main in heavy weather. Do we need additional heavy weather sails?

7.       Our fridge and freezer are not working properly. The freezer struggles to reach -5C and the fridge achieves no cooling at all.They are Frigoboat units with keel coolers, made by Veco. The boat is currently in Golfe Juan where the local service company seem unable to fix them. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Many thanks for experienced input on any of these topics.

Gavin

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

gavin <gavingilmorelodge@...>
 

Thanks Bob, please see comments in your text below.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: 24 August 2017 05:41
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Best trade wind rig for an Amel 55

 

 

Hi Gavin, I have a 55 

Many of the kind responses from this group have been from owners of earlier yachts which were I believe designed by Henri Amel himself whereas Berret Racoupeau designed the 55. If you’ve sailed on the earlier yachts, do you think the 55 sails very differently from the Henri boats? 

 

In answer to your questions.

 

You need to re tension the pole down haul ropes (3) after setup as they stretch, then the pole moves and chafes the genoa sheets. The pole should be tensioned with its halliard to keep it stable and not move. Understood, thank you, do you think the downhauls should be replaced with non-stretch lines?

 

If your running downwind 150-210deg then put the mizzen away it just cuts flow to the main or Genoa. Thanks

 

I rarely use the staysail, but when I need it 45+knots tacking to windward, the running back stay really needs to be tightened by winch, don't rethink the Amel design. Sorry, we don’t know the Amel design. Is that in the Amel User’s manual which was not included when the boat was bought from the previous owner?

 

The staysail is your storm jib. Thank you, ours is on a Reckmann electric furler and I wondered if it would be heavy enough for very strong winds?

 

The most obvious is that the heat exchanger plates on the bottom of the boat have been painted or antifouled. Just in case it helps other owners, after 5 unsuccessful visits from an authorised Frigoboat/Veco service engineer, we have now been told the most likely cause is that the fridge/freezer was left on when Amel hauled the boat in Hyeres. Apparently with the keel coolers out of the water and the compressors running the circulation of the refrigerant soon fails.

 

Bob Grey

Renaissance 3

Amel 55 #25.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Tuesday, August 22, 2017, 19:24, Gavin Shaw gavingilmorelodge@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We hope to cross this year with the ARC on an Amel 55 from 2012.

 

We are completely new to the boat and have not sailed an Amel before. We would therefore really appreciate advice from Amel 55 owners with ocean experience, particularly on these topics.

1.       The ideal trade wind rig with the apparent wind below 15 knots and the best reduced sail plan with a stronger wind. In addition to the standard cutter rig we have a cruising chute and a Code 0 on board.

2.       Any tips on setting up the pole for long term running to minimise chafe and wear on the pole and fittings?

3.       How best to rig a preventer on the mizzen boom when running?

4.       Should we consider a mizzen staysail, if so how best to rig it on the 55 which doesn’t seem to be set up for one?

5.       When should we use the forward staysail and whether it is safe to rig the running backstays with a tackle and integral jamming cleat like a sailing dinghy mainsheet? (To avoid blocking the secondary winch on the windward side)

6.       I don’t think we have a storm jib or trysail but imagine we should use the forward staysail and deeply reefed main in heavy weather. Do we need additional heavy weather sails?

7.       Our fridge and freezer are not working properly. The freezer struggles to reach -5C and the fridge achieves no cooling at all.They are Frigoboat units with keel coolers, made by Veco. The boat is currently in Golfe Juan where the local service company seem unable to fix them. Any suggestions would be welcome.

Many thanks for experienced input on any of these topics.

Gavin