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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries for Amel 54

 

You are aware that Hankook MF31-750 is a "starting" battery and NOT a deep cycle battery.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970






On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 4:10 AM Barry Connor connor_barry@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Wolfgang,

Because I was buying 13 batteries the BatteryMegaStore in the UK gave me the post fittings at no extra charge, 26 in total. The batteries are exactly the same size and I still use the original wood spacers between them. Everything still fits very snugly, no movement.
I was fortunate to have a small people mover van for 6 months after I bought the boat in May 2015 and was driving back and forth (Marseille to UK).. Carried these batteries over 2 trips. You will have to check with the France store to see if they will deliver at no charge. The UK store would only deliver at no charge to UK address.

Best Regards
Barry


On Jul 4, 2018, at 10:42, webercardio webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Barry,
Did you have to change anything in the batterycompartment, cable, fittings etc for these batteries?
Thank you very much Wolfgang SY Elise 




Dr. med. Wolfgang Weber
Lenaustr. 2 45657 Recklinghausen Germany
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Datum: 28.06.18 12:52 (GMT+01:00)
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries for Amel 54

 

Hi Wolfgang,

You can look at BatteryMagastore online I got 13 Hankook MF31-750 110Ah in Sept 2015, which cost £70 in UK and in France they now advertise them at about €88. They should last you about 5 years.
This was the best price that I found.
Best Regards

Barry and Penny
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Split Croatia


On Jun 28, 2018, at 12:37, webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Dear Amel sailors, I am on the way to Hyeres /France and want New batteries for our Amel 54.

Charger and everything will not be changed and I would like to buy nearly the same batteries - the originals are from 2010/11. Any recommendations where to buy and which brand ?

Thank you.

Wolfgang Weber SY Elise  Amel 54 # 162 on the way to Bonifacio/France


Re: Would anybody take me on a quick sail on a Maramu?

themos_astro
 

Hello Tom, 

Not quite what you are asking for but this Maramu may be available for charters, in Scotland.


Themos Tsikas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drawer/cupboard pulls

karkauai
 

I’ve looked some for replacements, too, also without success.  I was able to repair one latch with a safety pin cut to fit where the old spring fit.
Is this something that could be reproduced using a 3D printer?  If so we could organize and have as many made as everyone needs.

Kent
Kristy/SM243
St Michaels MD

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Jul 3, 2018, at 4:18 PM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Steve and John,

Do you only need the chrome looking handle part (which is plastic), as I do, or do you also need the brown plastic latching part?  I'm looking into having some made, but only need handles. 

Craig Briggs, SN68, Boca Raton, FL


I need some as well, as I suspect every older SM and Santorin owner does. I’ve been looking for a couple of years with no success. 
Steve Davis  Aloha SM 72  Hawaii

I have one or two spares, but would like to purchase some more as well. 

John SV Annie SM 37 Le Marin, Martinique
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Maud informed me that Amel no longer has the old push-button rectangular drawer pulls. 
Has anyone found a source or a good replacement?

Many thanks, Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris


Would anybody take me on a quick sail on a Maramu?

Thomas Nienkemper
 

Hello Amel community,

 

It's been over a year since I started looking into the Amel Maramu as our new home. The knowledge accumulated in this group is phenomenal and really helped me with my decision for this boat.

 

One important piece is still missing though. I did not have the chance to sail a Maramu yet. So, I was wondering if there is anybody in Europe (I live in Switzerland) who would be willing to take me on board to show me how she sails. I know I could do that during sea trials, but I thought it makes sense to do have the experience before - who knows, maybe I don't like it at all ;). 

 

Also: If there is anybody planning to sell within the next 12 months please get in touch – either here or send me an email: thomas.nienkemper@....

 

Best,

Tom


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries for Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Hi Wolfgang,
Because I was buying 13 batteries the BatteryMegaStore in the UK gave me the post fittings at no extra charge, 26 in total. The batteries are exactly the same size and I still use the original wood spacers between them. Everything still fits very snugly, no movement.
I was fortunate to have a small people mover van for 6 months after I bought the boat in May 2015 and was driving back and forth (Marseille to UK). Carried these batteries over 2 trips. You will have to check with the France store to see if they will deliver at no charge. The UK store would only deliver at no charge to UK address.

Best Regards
Barry


On Jul 4, 2018, at 10:42, webercardio webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Barry,
Did you have to change anything in the batterycompartment, cable, fittings etc for these batteries?
Thank you very much Wolfgang SY Elise 




Dr. med. Wolfgang Weber
Lenaustr. 2 45657 Recklinghausen Germany
Telefon +49 2361 182005 FAX + 49 2361 182006
Attention: This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged
information. If you are not the intended recipient or if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: "Barry Connor connor_barry@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Datum: 28.06.18 12:52 (GMT+01:00)
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries for Amel 54

 

Hi Wolfgang,

You can look at BatteryMagastore online I got 13 Hankook MF31-750 110Ah in Sept 2015, which cost £70 in UK and in France they now advertise them at about €88. They should last you about 5 years.
This was the best price that I found.
Best Regards

Barry and Penny
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Split Croatia


On Jun 28, 2018, at 12:37, webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Dear Amel sailors, I am on the way to Hyeres /France and want New batteries for our Amel 54.

Charger and everything will not be changed and I would like to buy nearly the same batteries - the originals are from 2010/11. Any recommendations where to buy and which brand ?

Thank you.

Wolfgang Weber SY Elise  Amel 54 # 162 on the way to Bonifacio/France


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries for Amel 54

webercardio <webercardio@...>
 

Hi Barry,
Did you have to change anything in the batterycompartment, cable, fittings etc for these batteries?
Thank you very much Wolfgang SY Elise 




Dr. med. Wolfgang Weber
Lenaustr. 2 45657 Recklinghausen Germany
Telefon +49 2361 182005 FAX + 49 2361 182006
Attention: This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged
information. If you are not the intended recipient or if you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited

-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: "Barry Connor connor_barry@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Datum: 28.06.18 12:52 (GMT+01:00)
An: amelyachtowners@...
Betreff: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Batteries for Amel 54

 

Hi Wolfgang,

You can look at BatteryMagastore online I got 13 Hankook MF31-750 110Ah in Sept 2015, which cost £70 in UK and in France they now advertise them at about €88. They should last you about 5 years.
This was the best price that I found.
Best Regards

Barry and Penny
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Split Croatia


On Jun 28, 2018, at 12:37, webercardio@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Dear Amel sailors, I am on the way to Hyeres /France and want New batteries for our Amel 54.

Charger and everything will not be changed and I would like to buy nearly the same batteries - the originals are from 2010/11. Any recommendations where to buy and which brand ?

Thank you.

Wolfgang Weber SY Elise  Amel 54 # 162 on the way to Bonifacio/France


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Barnacle Buster

Patrick McAneny
 

Hanspeter, I always have a difficult time understanding your posts. I think you are questioning  that it takes me about 15 minutes to remove the heat exchanger on my Volvo TMD 22a . If that was your point,( only guessing it was) you are probably right, it probably takes closer to 10 minutes. I only need to loosen three SS clamps and pull the boot off and slide the tube out. I can't speak to how long it takes on a new Yanmar. No need to reply to this reply ,as I won't reply to your next reply,its a slippery slope I've been down before !
Have a Nice Day,
Pat
SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Hanspeter.baettig' hanspeter.baettig@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, Jul 3, 2018 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Barnacle Buster

 
Hi Pat
this is funny 😀
you remove a Heat Exchanger on a Perkins T 80 or a new Yanmar 110 hp in 15 min. well done spedy concales..
I like some texte
like that. I don' think you are serious.
best regards
hanspeter
tamango 2

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 03.07.2018 um 15:45 schrieb Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 
Olivier, Removing the thermostat would not change the flow direction of the water and generally just would not be a good idea. The engine would not heat up as quickly,and may not ever rise to the correct temp. ,remember diesel do not like to run cool.Removing the thermostat would not correct your problem, unless you have a bad thermostat,and then it should be replaced ,not removed. Do what you will, but it only takes 15 minutes to remove the heat exchanger and it may just need to be cleaned out,problem solved , if its the seal then order it , problem solved, I would not wait to resolve your issue, but that me.
Good Luck,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: o_ruhlmann@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Jul 3, 2018 8:21 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Barnacle Buster

 
Thanks a lot.  That does make it clearer.

I will pull out the heat exchanger at the end of the season. I had also heard of people removing the thermostat to force all the cooling water to the heat exchanger and forfait the bypass.

The engine is indeed a Perkins 80T

Olivier

SM Alpha


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Barnacle Buster

hanspeter baettig
 

Hi Pat
this is funny 😀
you remove a Heat Exchanger on a Perkins T 80 or a new Yanmar 110 hp in 15 min. well done spedy concales.
I like some texte
like that. I don' think you are serious.
best regards
hanspeter
tamango 2

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 03.07.2018 um 15:45 schrieb Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Olivier, Removing the thermostat would not change the flow direction of the water and generally just would not be a good idea. The engine would not heat up as quickly,and may not ever rise to the correct temp. ,remember diesel do not like to run cool.Removing the thermostat would not correct your problem, unless you have a bad thermostat,and then it should be replaced ,not removed. Do what you will, but it only takes 15 minutes to remove the heat exchanger and it may just need to be cleaned out,problem solved , if its the seal then order it , problem solved, I would not wait to resolve your issue, but that me.

Good Luck,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: o_ruhlmann@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tue, Jul 3, 2018 8:21 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Barnacle Buster

 
Thanks a lot.  That does make it clearer.

I will pull out the heat exchanger at the end of the season. I had also heard of people removing the thermostat to force all the cooling water to the heat exchanger and forfait the bypass.

The engine is indeed a Perkins 80T

Olivier

SM Alpha


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: IMPORTANT - Dessalator JIC Flare fittings on High Pressure Hoses + More

Porter McRoberts
 

John. If you want good inexpensive hoses ask frank vadi. He has a source there in Martinique. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Jul 3, 2018, at 1:23 PM, john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Bill,

   I am putting my watermaker back together finally, after an 13 month delay....darned hurricanes.  I assembled the membranes and dry fitted everything to do a first run test.  I didn't use any sealant on the flares and had no leaks there at 60 Bar.  Only ran the unit for a few minutes to test the rebuild pump and determine if there were any gross leakage issues so can't say if the Locktite is needed or not.  I will apply some when I am satisfied the system is ready to run.  

A word of caution, I had new HP hoses made up in a shop in the US.  They reused the end fittings but did not reapply them to the new hoses correctly.  They did this behind the counter where I did not observe,  again we should watch the workers.  The fitting near the HP pump leaked on the second application of pressure around 20Bar.  Upon inspection we found the inner hose lining cut away to make the fitting slide in easier.  The tech never disassembled the fitting and simply shoved the hose into the metal while turning it.  We were lucky that I am used to commissioning new engineering projects and want eyes on all hoses and fittings until broken in. 

We bought ready made HP hoses at Caraib Marine which eliminated entirely the questionable refitted hoses.

             John

SV Annie  SM 37
Le Marin, Martinique 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drawer/cupboard pulls

Stephen Davis
 

Hey Craig,

I actually could use both parts, as I see several impending failures. If you can have some made, please count me in on that. 

Thanks,

Steve

On Jul 3, 2018, at 10:18, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Steve and John,

Do you only need the chrome looking handle part (which is plastic), as I do, or do you also need the brown plastic latching part?  I'm looking into having some made, but only need handles. 

Craig Briggs, SN68, Boca Raton, FL


I need some as well, as I suspect every older SM and Santorin owner does. I’ve been looking for a couple of years with no success. 
Steve Davis  Aloha SM 72  Hawaii

I have one or two spares, but would like to purchase some more as well. 

John SV Annie SM 37 Le Marin, Martinique
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Maud informed me that Amel no longer has the old push-button rectangular drawer pulls. 
Has anyone found a source or a good replacement?

Many thanks, Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris


Re: Drawer/cupboard pulls

Craig Briggs
 

Steve and John,

Do you only need the chrome looking handle part (which is plastic), as I do, or do you also need the brown plastic latching part?  I'm looking into having some made, but only need handles. 

Craig Briggs, SN68, Boca Raton, FL


I need some as well, as I suspect every older SM and Santorin owner does. I’ve been looking for a couple of years with no success. 
Steve Davis  Aloha SM 72  Hawaii

I have one or two spares, but would like to purchase some more as well. 

John SV Annie SM 37 Le Marin, Martinique
---In amelyachtowners@..., <sangaris@...> wrote :

Maud informed me that Amel no longer has the old push-button rectangular drawer pulls. 
Has anyone found a source or a good replacement?

Many thanks, Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Drawer/cupboard pulls

Stephen Davis
 

I need some as well, as I suspect every older SM and Santorin owner does. I’ve been looking for a couple of years with no success. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii

On Jul 3, 2018, at 08:25, john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have one or two spares, but would like to purchase some more as well. 


John
SV Annie SM 37
Le Marin, Martinique


Re: Drawer/cupboard pulls

John Clark
 

I have one or two spares, but would like to purchase some more as well. 

John
SV Annie SM 37
Le Marin, Martinique


Re: IMPORTANT - Dessalator JIC Flare fittings on High Pressure Hoses + More

John Clark
 

Thanks Bill,
   I am putting my watermaker back together finally, after an 13 month delay....darned hurricanes.  I assembled the membranes and dry fitted everything to do a first run test.  I didn't use any sealant on the flares and had no leaks there at 60 Bar.  Only ran the unit for a few minutes to test the rebuild pump and determine if there were any gross leakage issues so can't say if the Locktite is needed or not.  I will apply some when I am satisfied the system is ready to run.  

A word of caution, I had new HP hoses made up in a shop in the US.  They reused the end fittings but did not reapply them to the new hoses correctly.  They did this behind the counter where I did not observe,  again we should watch the workers.  The fitting near the HP pump leaked on the second application of pressure around 20Bar.  Upon inspection we found the inner hose lining cut away to make the fitting slide in easier.  The tech never disassembled the fitting and simply shoved the hose into the metal while turning it.  We were lucky that I am used to commissioning new engineering projects and want eyes on all hoses and fittings until broken in. 

We bought ready made HP hoses at Caraib Marine which eliminated entirely the questionable refitted hoses.

             John

SV Annie  SM 37
Le Marin, Martinique 


Drawer/cupboard pulls

Craig Briggs
 

Maud informed me that Amel no longer has the old push-button rectangular drawer pulls. 
Has anyone found a source or a good replacement?


Many thanks, Craig Briggs, SN68 Sangaris


Dessalator DUO 160 Wiring Connections

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Fellow forum members,

I won’t bore you with the whole story, but I have to try new capacitors in my DUO 160 watermaker motor.  The last person that worked on it, disconnected the old ones so I am not sure of the wiring connections to install the new ones.  Dessalator provided me with a wiring diagram for the AC connections, but when I requested a diagram for the capacitors, all they were willing to do was refer me to the diagram on the inside of the cover plate (which is not clear to me).  

As I am completely inept when it comes to all things electric, I  was hoping one of you fine Amelians could hold my hand and provide me with a simplistic diagram of all the connections, AC as well as those for the capacitors.

Thank you to all for past and present favors.  This forum provides me with so much help and guidance.  

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Cruising New England

www.RitaKathryn.com



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Barnacle Buster

greatketch@...
 

I'll definitely second what Pat has said here.  

Removing the thermostat should only ever VERY short term fix to limp home because the thermostat is stuck closed.  Running a diesel without a thermostat will cause serious damage from an operating temperature that is much too low. 

Removing a thermostat to fix an undiagnosed cause of overheating would be a very dangerous thing to do.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD.


Re: Gas Struts for Engine Hatch

Duane Siegfri
 

Thanks for the help to everyone who responded.

Duane


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Barnacle Buster

Patrick McAneny
 

Olivier, Removing the thermostat would not change the flow direction of the water and generally just would not be a good idea. The engine would not heat up as quickly,and may not ever rise to the correct temp. ,remember diesel do not like to run cool.Removing the thermostat would not correct your problem, unless you have a bad thermostat,and then it should be replaced ,not removed. Do what you will, but it only takes 15 minutes to remove the heat exchanger and it may just need to be cleaned out,problem solved , if its the seal then order it , problem solved, I would not wait to resolve your issue, but that me.
Good Luck,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: o_ruhlmann@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tue, Jul 3, 2018 8:21 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Barnacle Buster

 
Thanks a lot.  That does make it clearer.

I will pull out the heat exchanger at the end of the season. I had also heard of people removing the thermostat to force all the cooling water to the heat exchanger and forfait the bypass.

The engine is indeed a Perkins 80T

Olivier

SM Alpha


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Gas Struts for Engine Hatch

Craig Briggs
 

I recall several old posts about "bulging" fiberglass in the area of the struts (and elsewhere) being the embedded carbon steel backing plates having expanded with rust and forcing the fiberglass to "bulge". Not surprising if original bolts removed to replace the struts, allowing water ingress. Similar "bulging" in other areas with backing plates have also been noted. Fiberglass itself, of course, doesn't "bulge".  Proper fix is cut out old plate and re-glass (preferably from the back side in the case of the hatch, for cosmetics), not just add exterior plates.
Cheers, Craig , SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <brouse@...> wrote :

I think that the challenge has been identified. There are so many variables in these common gas struts, that to find one sitting on a shelf would be a miracle.

There are some websites that will take you step-by-step through the process of identifying all of the options...BUT, here are some of my notes...

In retrospect, I would try 300N...Amel OEM was 400N, but SM engine hatches have a tendency to bulge where these are mounted. 400N = 90 pounds each...300N = 67 pounds each...I think it will work.



Best, Bill Rouse

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